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Winona Ryder still ‘trash-talks’ former BFF Gwyneth Paltrow

I’m sure this story will ruffle the feathers of many Winona-stans, but I think this is good news for Winona Ryder. Her career comeback is going well, she spent a few years doing smaller parts in smaller movies, getting some critical acclaim again, getting photographed more often and coming out in public more often. So it’s good news when the tabloids start discussing her as a scandalous and/or bizarre person. Winona’s always been a little strange, and now a new generation of tabloid readers get to enjoy it. For the young’uns, let me tell you: Winona Ryder used to be like Kristen Stewart, Selena Gomez and Jennifer Lawrence all rolled into one. Winona was HUGE. She dated her costars, she was a child actor who transitioned to adult roles beautifully, she won awards and praise, she was BFFs with some of the biggest celebrities out there and there were plenty of scandals and drama. Ah, the halcyon days of the 1990s.

So this Enquirer story references some of those older scandals. Like, Johnny Depp and Winona were crazy about each other way back when (before Kate Moss, even), and Winona used to be BFFs with Gwyneth Paltrow. So, enjoy:

Winona Ryder is getting weirder by the day, becoming a virtual recluse and taking potshots at her former friends.

Insiders say she’s dyed her hair bright white and become obsessed with online shopping, filling her closets with unworn clothes that still have their tags. And just about the only time she leaves her home is when her cleaning staff arrives, because she can’t stand talking to them.

Winona has also been trash-talking her ex-BFF Gwyneth Paltrow and former flame Johnny Depp, a source tells The ENQUIRER.

“She’s alienating so many people it’s no wonder she’s turning into a hermit,” said a longtime friend of the 41-year-old actress.

Winona has a “major grudge” against Gwyneth because she believes the blonde-haired beauty made unflattering comments about her in an online lifestyle blog four years ago. And Winona also never got over Gwyneth beating her out for a plum role in the 1998 hit movie “Shakespeare in Love” – and winning an Oscar for it!

“Those comments were a huge embarrassment for her,” the pal said.

The friend says Winona has also been blasting Depp, 50, for hooking up with 27- year Amber Heard not long after split­ting with his long­time love, Vanessa Paradis, 40, last year.

“Johnny couldn’t care less,” said the friend, “but she’s really ragging on him for being so predictable and going for a blonde in her twenties.”

As The ENQUIRER reported in April, Winona had a fleeting hope she and “The Lone Ranger” star would reunite.

“It’s really sad she’s become so vindictive,” the friend continued. “She rarely leaves the house because she hates being around people so much. And she makes sure her housekeepers don’t speak English because that way they are less likely to know who she is.

“When she was younger, her eccentricities were perceived as cute and quirky, but now she’s just bizarre.”

[From The Enquirer]

I think the Gwyneth reference is about an old Goop post from a few years ago where Gwyneth talked about “how to break up with a friend”. And the Hollywood rumor back in 1997 was that Gwyneth outright STOLE Winona’s script for Shakespeare In Love and Goop went behind Winona’s back and got the part. And they were never friends after that. As for the Depp stuff… I’m not sure I believe Wino and Johnny still talk. She might talk smack about him (as she should, because he’s absurd), but I doubt Johnny even hears about it.

Oh, and remember how Matt Damon dumped Minnie Driver (while appearing on Oprah!!!) and then he started up with Winona two seconds later? I wish people still brought that up, because that was an amazing scandal. God, I miss Winona’s scandals. I want her to start dating someone really controversial. Not Charlie Sheen! I want her to throw it down old-school, like Winona could steal Garrett Hedlund away from Kirsten Dunst. That would be fun.

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by Anonymousreply 176August 7, 2014 8:52 PM

"And Winona also never got over Gwyneth beating her out for a plum role in the 1998 hit movie “Shakespeare in Love” – and winning an Oscar for it!"

Neither has anyone who has seen the movie.

by Anonymousreply 1July 12, 2013 9:15 PM

"blonde-haired beauty" and I stopped reading right there. I can't trust any article praising Paltrow like that.

by Anonymousreply 2July 12, 2013 9:21 PM

FUCK Winona Ryder. I'm not ashamed to admit I like Goop. Everyone can bitch about her as much as they want. She is still the diva everyone wants to be. She has [bold]Everything.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 3July 12, 2013 9:22 PM

Ryder is truly beautiful. GOOP is just "pretty".

by Anonymousreply 4July 12, 2013 9:30 PM

Winona has some serious mental health issues. Borderline perhaps?

by Anonymousreply 5July 12, 2013 9:34 PM

Winona would have been terrible in "Shakespeare"! Her English accent in that Dracula movie was embarassing, plus she's five feet tall and busty and thinks she can pass as a young man?

She should thank Gwynneth for sparing her the humiliation.

by Anonymousreply 6July 12, 2013 9:40 PM

There is sooo much wrong with writing about gossip, and suggesting it is wrong, then in the same piece slam a prior person guilty of it. It defeats the purpose of the article when you are insinuating who this culprit is--when you refer to a public humiliation. You are committing that same act which you are discussing as bad.

by Anonymousreply 7July 12, 2013 9:43 PM

I actually think Winona would have improved the film. Gwyneth just is not an actress.

by Anonymousreply 8July 12, 2013 9:44 PM

[quote]Winona would have been terrible in "Shakespeare"! Her English accent in that Dracula movie was embarassing, plus she's five feet tall and busty and thinks she can pass as a young man?

I totally disagree. Have you seen Winona's photograph from High School? She looks like a boy, and Winona even got bullied and beat-up, because they thought she looked like a gay boy.

Winona would have enhanced the role.

by Anonymousreply 9July 12, 2013 10:04 PM

Winona totally has crazy eyes in those pics, but truth be told she is/was gorgeous, far moreso than Gwyneth--who is very pretty with fantastic style, but looks more and more like her mother as the years pass, which is not a bad thing, but nobody ever thought of Blythe as great beauty. In her prime though, Winona was just gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 10July 12, 2013 10:05 PM

I've always had kind of a soft spot for Winona. She career went downward after the shoplifting incident, but Angelina's skyrocketed after Winona got her the role in "Girl Interrupted" and Gwyneth's is somehow still doing well even though he is beyond insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 11July 12, 2013 10:08 PM

I want to see her white hair. I could see myself living the way she is, if I had the funds. It's not admirable, but it is understandable.

by Anonymousreply 12July 12, 2013 10:15 PM

No it's not admirable, wasting thousands on clothes she never wears, while I'll bet her cleaning staff doesn't get paid much. I'd enjoy making poor people happy by paying them well, then just surfing for more shit to waste money on.

by Anonymousreply 13July 12, 2013 10:26 PM

"Have you seen Winona's photograph .from High School? She looks like a boy, and Winona even got bullied and beat-up, because they thought she looked like a gay boy"

Looking like a boy when you're 14 is much easier than when you're 27 and busty

Okay, Winona has been known to have a slight boyish quality on occasion, but looking a bit boyish and passing for a 16th century English boy are two very different things. And I notice that you haven't addressed the language and accent issues, there's no way Winona could have done a good job with the dialogue. Not that Gwynneth was great or anything, but the role was totally out of Ryder's range.

by Anonymousreply 14July 12, 2013 10:58 PM

Goopie was charming in Shakespeare in Love. Winona would have been TERRIBLE in the role - she acts like the part was hers and Goopie stole it away.

I'd wager that Winona wasn't even the second choice.

She's a drug-addled old has-been. Good riddance to her.

by Anonymousreply 15July 12, 2013 11:03 PM

It sounds like Gwyneth deliberately stabbed Winona in the back to get a part. I think Winona has issues, but I fail to see why Ryder was at fault for Paltrow's devious behavior in this.

And Gwyenth is known for trashing her ex friends in the press. She's done the same thing to Madonna.

by Anonymousreply 16July 12, 2013 11:04 PM

'you STOLLLLE from meeeee'

by Anonymousreply 17July 12, 2013 11:09 PM

Please, r16. It only "sounds like Gwyneth deliberately stabbed Winona in the back" in Winona's paranoid mind.

by Anonymousreply 18July 12, 2013 11:10 PM

They're both massively untalented cunts who are thrilled anyone is even talking about them.

No signature roles anyone will remember. Just laughable "scandals," petty dating gossip and cunty behavior. Both are one black cock away from being a Kardashian.

Both are for shit. They don't make movie stars anymore. They churn out turds like these two insufferable twats,

by Anonymousreply 19July 12, 2013 11:15 PM

It doesn't matter. They've both ruined their careers. Wyno is a shitty actress and Gooper is annoying as fuck!

they can both suck it!

by Anonymousreply 20July 12, 2013 11:15 PM

It's sad that just as Winona was becoming a good actor ("Girl Interrupted") her career took a nosedive. We'll never know what she could have done these last 10 + years, actingwise.

by Anonymousreply 21July 12, 2013 11:18 PM

Ryder never was a good actress. She was just lucky.

by Anonymousreply 22July 12, 2013 11:21 PM

Do believe she's a Borderline case - the shoplifting, odd behavior going all the way back to pulling out of "Godfather 3". But I do think she can have a new career as an older actress, in the Sally Field mold.... Or, she could become like Shelley Duvall

by Anonymousreply 23July 12, 2013 11:24 PM

None of this is true. I know Winona slightly. She doesn't leave her house much because she's VERY afraid of the paps that camp out at the end of her street. The Depp shit is made up, and the GOOP story is a re-hash of a 10 year old story.

I hope she sues them.

by Anonymousreply 24July 12, 2013 11:33 PM

r24 = Courtney Love

by Anonymousreply 25July 12, 2013 11:37 PM

r24, are you one of her maids?

by Anonymousreply 26July 12, 2013 11:37 PM

If true,it's really sad and pathetic that Winona had any hope that she and Depp would reunite after he and Vanessa Paradis split up.

Why would she think she had any chance of getting back together with him? She was crazy back then, and even worse now. Crazy can be kinda hot, especialy when it comes to sex, when you're in your 20's but at 41 it's something you cross the street to avoid.

by Anonymousreply 27July 13, 2013 12:14 AM

Winona is most likely crazy, but first she was a drug addict. Depp makes all his girls into drug addicts. It is a requirement. He is evil and crazy too, but no one seems to mind. Billion dollar box office. He was a good actor, a long time ago.

Paltrow is no fun, but she is funny.

by Anonymousreply 28July 13, 2013 12:32 AM

Gwennie can be pretty (especially in her youth), but Noni is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 29July 13, 2013 12:36 AM

So, did Ryder's career implode because of the shoplifting scandal? If that happened today it would blow over within a couple of months. It would not be a career killer.

I loved her in Beetlejuice, but she sucked in Alien: Resurrection.

And, yes, she's prettier than Paltrow.

[quote]None of this is true. I know Winona slightly. She doesn't leave her house much because she's VERY afraid of the paps that camp out at the end of her street. The Depp shit is made up, and the GOOP story is a re-hash of a 10 year old story.

I'm glad she's not a recluse. Thanks for the info.

by Anonymousreply 30July 13, 2013 12:40 AM

Why would the paps camp outside Winona's house? She hasn't been a viable actress in years.

by Anonymousreply 31July 13, 2013 12:43 AM

There are photos of her July 8, 2013 at Getty Images and she does not have white hair.

by Anonymousreply 32July 13, 2013 12:49 AM

There is no way that Winona is beautiful.

She is a short ass no legs and has always been boyish looking. She is crazy to boot and I don't believe for a minute that Depp would want her back. He sold out completely staring in cartoon after cartoon.

Gwyneth is pretty and a better actress but annoying as hell sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 33July 13, 2013 12:54 AM

[quote]Gwyneth is pretty and a better actress

In what planet?

by Anonymousreply 34July 13, 2013 12:57 AM

R33 - Winona has a stunningly beautiful face and a great body.

by Anonymousreply 35July 13, 2013 12:59 AM

Winona's too skinny, but she is beautiful:

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by Anonymousreply 36July 13, 2013 1:03 AM

Agreed, R36. Winona was a little heavier a couple years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 37July 13, 2013 1:08 AM

This article is just trash talk. It's not Winona Ryder being seen in public doing weird things or tweeting insane shit. It's all hearsay from "friends." Where is there a photo of her with white hair? Where is there proof that she thought she could get together with Depp? This is rubbish.

Lindsay Lohan, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Amanda Byne have all been seen acting out in public. Not Ryder. This "she's a recluse" rumour is a way of explaining away the fact that nobody has actually seen her behaving this way except anonymous "friends."

I don't even like Winona Ryder. I've always thought she was overrated. But this article is just garbage.

by Anonymousreply 38July 13, 2013 1:20 AM

I always found it hard to believe Goop stole the script from Ryder and that's how she got the role. If Goop were not to be considered in the first place for that movie, she would have never even gotten a chance to audition, let alone get the part. Maybe a bitter Winona just made up the story. I mean she is crazy and was convicted of stealing. But because people love to hate on Goop they just believe anything.

by Anonymousreply 39July 13, 2013 2:16 AM

I doubt Winona spends much time thinking about Goop.

by Anonymousreply 40July 13, 2013 3:45 AM

[r39] Goopy was housesitting for Wino and a bunch of scripts were delivered for Wino to read and consider. Goopy coundn't stand the temptation and opened the envelopes read the scripts and left with them. Wino never knew that the scripts were delivered and would later discover that Goopy had done this more than once.

Goop had agents and was repped by a big agency because of her parents connections, but was not on the level as Wino at that time. Goop pursued the role and pushed hard and won it (or sucked the right dicks-- or her agency packaged her into the deal which is the most likely scenario*). *Little known secret: When you see a big movie, most often, the writer, director and talent are all repped by the same agency.

When Wino discovered that Goop was cast in a part that had been offered to Wino first, she had no idea that the part had been offered to her. Wino then figured it out. Now, I never heard that it was specifically Shakespeare in Love, but it doesn't matter. It was unscrupulous, deceptive, immoral and evil-- which is what hollywood is built on.

by Anonymousreply 41July 13, 2013 4:06 AM

ridiculous!!!! Everyone knows I blew Harvey for the role after Julia Roberts turned it down. I had just done "Emma" and was the Weinstein it girl!!!

poor Winona...no husbsnd,... no children, no Oscar=loser

by Anonymousreply 42July 13, 2013 4:16 AM

Where does it say that she wanted to get back together with Depp?

by Anonymousreply 43July 13, 2013 4:23 AM

in a previous Enquirer article r43

by Anonymousreply 44July 13, 2013 4:25 AM

Winona has aged very gracefully.

by Anonymousreply 45July 13, 2013 4:33 AM

She had a fantastic rhinoplasty as a teen which made her stunningly beautiful. Paltrow's rhinoplasty wasn't as good.

by Anonymousreply 46July 13, 2013 4:36 AM

Her losing the Oscar to "the little New Zealand girl" as she always refers to her was the best Oscar bitchslap until Bacall's humiliation.

by Anonymousreply 47July 13, 2013 4:38 AM

Count me in as another Wino fan. I grew up in the 90s. She was in Beetlejuice, Mermaids, Edward Scissorhands, Reality Bites, Little Women, The Crucible, Girl, Interrupted. All films I just loved as a kid.

And she blows GOOP out of the water in looks and talent. Not even a comparison.

I do fear she's batshit insane, but that makes me like her even more.

by Anonymousreply 48July 13, 2013 6:52 AM

I love how people respond FUCK Winona in regards to believing everything the article said. LOL. Star Mag wins again!

by Anonymousreply 49July 13, 2013 7:14 AM

Back in the 90s she looked like Luke Edwards.

by Anonymousreply 50July 13, 2013 7:19 AM

R41's story could NOT be more phony.

If her agent sent her several scripts, he would have followed up to ask what she thought. And if the producers were really interested in her, they would have been all over the agent, asking to get his client in.

Gwynnie stealing a script would never have been the end of that script and a potential audition for Ryder.

And I'm laughing at the thought that she's beautiful, particularly after seeing the pic at r36. Attractive, yes. Beautiful? No.

by Anonymousreply 51July 13, 2013 7:33 AM

r51 fuck off. Compared to Paltrow Nona is a fuckin goddess! That story is very old and true. Deal with it or twirl your mu mu South to your recliner and watch old Carol Burnett shows sweetie!

by Anonymousreply 52July 13, 2013 7:37 AM

R41 You never get a part in a movie by stealing a script from someone. If you believe that you believe in the most stupidest gossip and you are not very smart. If Ryder was offered the part the producers would have contacted her and ask her why she did not respond to the offer of which she probably knew before the script was send to her. Goop had all kinds of connections and maybe was offered the role as well. Since she also had to play a male role in that movie, for which she had the right body, she probably had a very good chance of getting the part more so than Ryder who is small and very busty. Both Ryder and Goop are good actresses but Ryder is creepy crazy and somehow I think there is something seriously wrong with her. Also lets not forget that Ryder is actually the one who was officially busted for stealing. If Ryder was the one spreading a lie about Goop stealing a scrip at her place, Goop has every reason to be very pissed.

by Anonymousreply 53July 13, 2013 10:00 AM


Oh please, nobody is interested in a pap picture of a borderline psycho. That girl is nuts, maybe she should apply as T Cruises next beard.

by Anonymousreply 54July 13, 2013 10:12 AM

R10: What are you talking about? Forty years ago Blythe Danner was considered one of the most beautiful actresses of her time. True, she was too idiosyncratic-looking to be labelled a conventional beauty, but she was better than conventional: she was unique, like Sophia Loren or Audrey Hepburn or Diane Keaton, none of whom was beautiful in a generic way. Practically every guy I knew had a crush on her. Her voice and laugh were part of the appeal. GP is attractive but doesn't come close to her mother in her prime.

by Anonymousreply 55July 13, 2013 10:52 AM

Is Blythe posting here now?

by Anonymousreply 56July 13, 2013 1:28 PM

R54 is the reason people do not post first hand info here anymore.

by Anonymousreply 57July 13, 2013 1:53 PM


That picture is revolting.

by Anonymousreply 58July 13, 2013 1:56 PM

"Forty years ago Blythe Danner was considered one of the most beautiful actresses of her time."

LOL. This has to be either Blythe or a pissed GOOP.

Blythe was a theater actress who got some supporting work in TV and movies. She was never high profiled enough to get that accolade.

Furthermore, Gwyneth managed to be besties with both crazy Winona and Madonna. What does that really say about her?

by Anonymousreply 59July 13, 2013 1:57 PM

Winona crazy makes far more sense than the Empress of All Cuntbags, Goop.At least Winona is not trying to sell 5000 dollar t-shirts to gullible women who worship her unbearably annoying cuntiness......

by Anonymousreply 60July 13, 2013 2:03 PM

"At least Winona is not trying to sell 5000 dollar t-shirts to gullible women who worship her unbearably annoying cuntiness....."

No, Winona is probably trying to steal the T-shirts.

by Anonymousreply 61July 13, 2013 2:13 PM

R60 Winona thinks she is entitled to get her stuff for free.

by Anonymousreply 62July 13, 2013 2:17 PM

Blythe F-ing Danner a beauty of her generation? try again.

Goop (I prefer the nickname Fishsticks) is not an actress.

Wynona batshit crazy or not is amazingly GORGEOUS. Is she a great actress? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

What kind of drugs did Depp get her hooked on? H?

by Anonymousreply 63July 13, 2013 2:46 PM

Goop is stick-up and fake, she's nothing like her classy mother.

by Anonymousreply 64July 13, 2013 3:40 PM

I find Winona very ordinary looking plus she is not tall enough to be considered beautiful.

She reminds me of a pixie elf and is a mediocre actress as is Goop. But at least Goop is tall and has the box gap.

by Anonymousreply 65July 13, 2013 3:44 PM

Winona bio.

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by Anonymousreply 66July 13, 2013 3:49 PM

Last Winona interview.

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by Anonymousreply 67July 13, 2013 3:50 PM

R61, R62 At least Winona steals things in front of your face,instead Gwennie puts up a classy facade and rips you off behind the scenes! Did I forget to mention that looks like a cunt, acts like a cunt and smells like a cunt?

by Anonymousreply 68July 13, 2013 3:55 PM

R65 - What does height have to do with beauty?

by Anonymousreply 69July 14, 2013 12:50 AM

Wino is 5ft 3 inches and very busty, I doubt she was ever offered that role where she also had to play a male. Plus she cant do a decent British accent. Biggest urban myth ever.

by Anonymousreply 70March 8, 2014 8:46 AM

The thing that makes this the biggest urban myth ever would be the existence of casting directors. Ryder would not have been the only actress considered - it was originally written for Julia Roberts and Daniel Day-Lewis though I think that was before Stoppard re-wrote the script.

Also Paltrow had already made Emma for Harvey so she would've been a front-runner anyway. Just because Ryder had the script doesn't meant the role was hers.

by Anonymousreply 71March 8, 2014 10:36 AM

I still can't believe that Winona Ryder is Helen Mirren's tenant.

by Anonymousreply 72March 8, 2014 1:58 PM

Paltrow for all her cuntiness and faux class never changed her last name Paltrow to sound less ethnic. Winona on the other hand changed her last name from Horowitz to Ryder. The case of who is more phony is now closed.

by Anonymousreply 73March 8, 2014 2:15 PM

I never got the appeal of Winona Ryder. I always wondered what Johnny Depp saw in her.

by Anonymousreply 74March 8, 2014 2:51 PM

Didn't zwino date Matt Damon for a long time? How come no one talks about that?

by Anonymousreply 75March 8, 2014 4:54 PM

R74 - She's gorgeous and intense.

by Anonymousreply 76March 8, 2014 9:52 PM

She's mentally ill and prone to weight gain, so she self-medicates with diet pills and nervous medication, which makes her act even nuttier. Unemployable.

by Anonymousreply 77March 8, 2014 10:05 PM

[R73] That's unfair. Paltrowicz was changed to Paltrow by the family but it's just as Anglenized.

by Anonymousreply 78March 8, 2014 10:13 PM

R77 - Seriously? She's been thin most of the time she's acted. She was normal size a few years ago, but is now thin.

by Anonymousreply 79March 8, 2014 10:55 PM

Don't kid yourself: thin=pills. She's busty and only 5 feet tall, which means a 5 lb wight gain makes her look heavy. That would be fine if she didn't have to worry about being on camera (which I suppose, these days, perhaps she doesn't). But don't for a moment think that she's not completely terrified about her weight, and that some of her drug problems have been directly related to this.

by Anonymousreply 80March 8, 2014 11:04 PM

r71 is correct.

Re paps being camped on her street: Ryder recently admitted she lives in a guest cottage on Helen Mirren/Taylor Hackford's property. I believe Cameron Diaz lives nearby and Halle Berry used to, they may account for the pap presence.

How do people here know that Winona is terrified of her weight and how she handles it? Spill more if you truly know her then.

by Anonymousreply 81March 8, 2014 11:17 PM

The source, Winona's "pal" was so obviously Goop.

by Anonymousreply 82March 8, 2014 11:19 PM

Didn't she have a bunch of pills on her when she was busted for shoplifting? It was so long ago...maybe I am thinking of someone else. In any case, most actresses and models are either on coke, diet pills, or a combination of the two to stay thin. On a side note, I have heard a ton of rumors about Kimora and coke binges lately.

by Anonymousreply 83March 8, 2014 11:30 PM

R83, I remember her having "liquid morphine" which is VERY hardcore.

by Anonymousreply 84March 8, 2014 11:41 PM

[quote] Those comments were a huge embarrassment for her,” the pal said.

What comments?

This article is a sham. Who _isn't_ making snide remarks about Depp dumping his family and going for a young blonde after all these years of "I'm so different. I'm so edgy. I'm so not a Hollywood," from Depp? He's just another middle aged actor now.

I doubt Winona Ryder has the money to go on shopping sprees like that. And... how can she be a recluse who only leaves her house when the cleaning staff arrives if she's also shopping her brains out buying all these clothes.

I haven't seen her do anything crazy lately, have you? She shows up at events, she's quiet, she's well dressed. She's not flashing her cootch, showing up all strung out, sticking out her tongue at everybody, bringing her dog on a cruise with her and letting it pee onstage. She hasn't been photographed going in and out of known drug haunts, she hasn't stuck a grill over her teeth, hasn't written a cookbook for wealthy anorexics, cut off a school bus with her scooter with a kid on the back with her, hasn't put tattoos all over her body and behaved like an exhibitionist. She doesn't claim vaccines are evil and autism can be cured with diet.

What have you seen her do that even comes close to rivaling the behavior of Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Carrie Fisher, Madonna, GOOP, Lena Dunham or Jenny McCarthy?

Sorry, I don't see the horror here.

by Anonymousreply 85March 8, 2014 11:46 PM

R83 - It was a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 86March 8, 2014 11:48 PM

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by Anonymousreply 87March 9, 2014 12:07 AM

Agree R87

by Anonymousreply 88March 9, 2014 12:11 AM

I think Blythe was very pretty in her day. Huge, beautiful eyes. Prettier than her daughter, who just looks so bland.

by Anonymousreply 89March 9, 2014 12:15 AM

Ryder has aged marvelously.

In fact, I'd dare say those pics in R87's link are the best she has ever looked.

Absolutely stunning.

by Anonymousreply 90March 9, 2014 12:19 AM

Recent interview with Jimmy Fallon about her old films being "golden oldies".

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by Anonymousreply 91March 9, 2014 12:31 AM

The make up is caked on very thick in that photo shoot. Too bad.

by Anonymousreply 92March 9, 2014 12:34 AM

I looked at that clip, R91. When she talks in high pitch voice, she is unbearable. Yikes. She didn't used to talk like that when she was younger.

You can tell that she doesn't work out. Her arms have no definition.

Fallon is a TERRIBLE interviewer!

by Anonymousreply 93March 9, 2014 12:40 AM

Great clip r91. Winona and Fallon are old fuckbuddies from years back.

by Anonymousreply 94March 9, 2014 12:49 AM

She's so beautiful. Shame about the crazy.

by Anonymousreply 95March 9, 2014 1:27 AM

Does that mean Fallon's not gay, R94?

by Anonymousreply 96March 9, 2014 1:59 AM


She looks bat shit crazy, like she has an anger management problem.

by Anonymousreply 97March 9, 2014 4:13 AM

She does not have an anger management problem now.

by Anonymousreply 98March 9, 2014 4:26 AM

Did Winona fuck one of Goop's boyfriends? Is that why she's hell bent on destroying her?

by Anonymousreply 99March 9, 2014 4:28 AM

R94 Is this a fact? Do you know this for sure?

Lorne specifically advised Jimmy to not date crazy women, so Jimmy didn't get involved with her, right?

by Anonymousreply 100March 9, 2014 7:14 AM

Ted C. Said her nickname was Wanna Ride Her

by Anonymousreply 101March 9, 2014 7:54 AM

R73 - she has also claimed to have "Irish roots" in interviews - which is supposedly why she loved the movie "The Commitments." She also claimed in a Vogue interview that she was a natural blonde. And of course, she claimed that she was shoplifting as research.

R78 - Paltrow, like Kudrow or Kantrow or a bunch of others like that, is pretty obviously a Jewish name.

R80 - I have a feeling that weight control has always been a major impetus for actors to start doing drugs in the first place. Especially women.

Of course, Paltrow is far from a stranger to drugs, either. She just knew (or knows?) how to control it.

by Anonymousreply 102March 9, 2014 8:29 AM

Paltrow kept her last name because her parents were famous, not because she is proud of her heritage.

by Anonymousreply 103March 9, 2014 4:23 PM

[quote]You can tell that she doesn't work out. Her arms have no definition.

The monster!!!

by Anonymousreply 104March 9, 2014 4:31 PM

Gwyneth Paltrow was good at carrying the British accent in SIL, but Winona Ryder has better acting ability.

Btw, Winona looks great in those photos with the long hair.

by Anonymousreply 105March 9, 2014 4:42 PM

Neither one possesses a searing talent, though I think Ryder has the better resume

by Anonymousreply 106March 9, 2014 4:54 PM

Ryder was bad in Alien Resurrection. That's really the last thing I saw her in.

by Anonymousreply 107March 9, 2014 4:57 PM

Ryder's only good performance is in The Age of Innocence, because Scorsese brilliantly played off her incompetencies as an actress by making her seem incompetent as a human being.

by Anonymousreply 108March 9, 2014 5:08 PM

[quote]Paltrow kept her last name because her parents were famous, not because she is proud of her heritage.

That's complete BS

by Anonymousreply 109March 9, 2014 8:46 PM

I agree, R108, Scorsese worked a miracle with her in The Age of Innocence. The film is underrated.

As for Wanna Ride Her, that avalanche of "blind" items in Cosmopolitan was the last word on her epic cuntiness.

by Anonymousreply 110March 9, 2014 10:15 PM

This is a great scene.

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by Anonymousreply 111March 9, 2014 10:23 PM

She is a great actress, no doubt, but I also believe she fabricated that "Goop stealing my script" story. Unfortunately she is also just nuts.

by Anonymousreply 112March 9, 2014 11:27 PM

R112 - I think Goop is nutty too.

by Anonymousreply 113March 9, 2014 11:31 PM

Winona is crazy. Gwyneth is just a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 114March 10, 2014 2:59 AM

Pssst, people! Has no one caught the contradiction? She is a recluse who stays in her house and won't talk to anyone. Who also trashes Gwyneth and Johnny Depp? Either she's a recluse or she isn't. She can't not talk to anyone and go around talking about people. As usual the Enquirer writes for people with the mentality of a 14 yr old.

by Anonymousreply 115March 10, 2014 3:11 AM

OMG, celebitchy webmasters posting their anti Goop propaganda on Datalounge now! Hopefully no Brangelina salivating in the future. That whole website is a PR tool for Jolie and Brad!

by Anonymousreply 116March 10, 2014 3:14 AM

Winona now, without makeup:


But do you think she's had work done on her upper lip? I'm wondering.

by Anonymousreply 117June 28, 2014 1:49 PM

She was always much prettier than Paltrow.

by Anonymousreply 118June 28, 2014 3:20 PM

Winona is still gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 119June 28, 2014 3:43 PM

The people who claim she's had a nose job, how exactly do you think it was altered. I don't think it's the basic shape of her nose was really changed, if it is true.

by Anonymousreply 120June 29, 2014 7:48 PM


by Anonymousreply 121June 29, 2014 11:15 PM

R120 Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 122July 4, 2014 8:19 PM


by Anonymousreply 123July 6, 2014 4:44 PM

Paltrow very beautiful in 2000:

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by Anonymousreply 124July 6, 2014 4:47 PM

R87 - she looks so friggin' gorgeous there. She's been gone for so long that she basically needs to re-debut as an ingenue. Even now she's so much hotter than Scarlett, Hathaway, etc.

by Anonymousreply 125July 6, 2014 4:54 PM

[quote]Paltrow, like Kudrow or Kantrow or a bunch of others like that, is pretty obviously a Jewish name.

Only someone who is himself Jewish would say "pretty obviously."

The goyim are much less aware of things like that. I once told my college students that Gertrude Stein was of course Jewish, and the non-Jewish students looked at me like I had magical mind-reading abilities.

by Anonymousreply 126July 6, 2014 4:56 PM

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by Anonymousreply 127July 6, 2014 5:00 PM

Here's the rest of those photos in the Daily Mail: www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2665535/Winona-Ryder-dressed-beige-coat-dull-dress-set-new-flick-hide-dewy-beauty.html

by Anonymousreply 128July 6, 2014 5:17 PM

Do you think she looks good for 42 or do you think she's beginning to look old?

by Anonymousreply 129July 6, 2014 7:48 PM

She doesn't look old and she doesn't look 42. She looks kind of ageless. If she quit chainsmoking, I'm sure her skin would get even better.

by Anonymousreply 130July 6, 2014 8:13 PM

[quote] Winona Ryder used to be like Kristen Stewart, Selena Gomez and Jennifer Lawrence all rolled into one.

How that Winona anything like that hispanic tart Selena Gomez?

by Anonymousreply 131July 6, 2014 8:36 PM

R130 Given that she's a smoker and an insomnia, as well as being rather pale, it's quite amazing she looks as good as she does.

by Anonymousreply 132July 8, 2014 11:57 PM

She looks younger than 42.

by Anonymousreply 133July 9, 2014 2:17 AM

Ryder has a very strange look. She's in her forties now and yet still looks like a teenager. An old teenager. And of course her voice is still that of a teenager. It's like she was never able to mature into an actual adult. It's rather bizarre.

At any rate, it's been known for years that she's crazy; a druggie, a slut and a kleptomaniac. Is she still on drugs? Does she still steal? Who knows? She's probably toned down the sluttiness a bit over time. But boy, when she was younger she was doing everybody: Johnny Depp, Matt Damon, Dave Pirner, David Duchovny, Beck, Bono, Evan Dando, Christian Slater, Chris Isaak, Gary Oldham, Daniel Day-Lewis, Jay Kay, Chris Noth, Stephan Jenkins, Peter Yorn, Jimmy Fallon, Page Hamilton, Conor Oberst, Blake Soper, Keanu Reeves, Henry Alex-Rubin, James Gooding...and many more!

by Anonymousreply 134July 9, 2014 2:37 AM

R132 as someone who is very fair myself and have been worried about how I will age, I think - ultimately - fair people who knew to avoid and/or protect themselves from the sun because they know they're fair end up (generally) aging better then olive or less fair skinned people who never had all of that drummed into their head from an early age and just soaked up the rays. My "big" (there are three of us) sister is an olive skined sun worshipper (at least until she was about 30) and she has aged the worst of the three of us.

by Anonymousreply 135July 9, 2014 2:42 AM

R134 as she has gotten older she has gotten a crazy eyed looked. She may have always been crazy but she never used to have crazy eyes. Just watch her in The Dilemma.

I think she may have had some eye work done.

by Anonymousreply 136July 9, 2014 2:44 AM

Winona is not a shitty actress. Heathers is on!

You suck it.

by Anonymousreply 137July 9, 2014 2:49 AM

[quote]At any rate, it's been known for years that she's crazy; a druggie, a slut and a kleptomaniac. Is she still on drugs? Does she still steal? Who knows?


by Anonymousreply 138July 11, 2014 5:24 PM

I disagree. She looks her age in those photos from the Daily Mail. She looks really tired.

by Anonymousreply 139July 11, 2014 5:36 PM

Winona Ryder said something?

I thought I heard something echo from down a long, dark, never visited hallway.

by Anonymousreply 140July 11, 2014 5:42 PM

R140 Oh shut up, she's still more interesting than most of today's crowd.

by Anonymousreply 141July 11, 2014 9:13 PM

R136 Her performance in the diner scene with Vince Vaughn was the best bit in that film, and probably the best acting she's done in 10 years.

by Anonymousreply 142July 11, 2014 9:16 PM

Ryder was a good actress in her early youth, then somehow, she lost all the talent she had and nothing she did in adulthood even compared to her work when a teenager. Her work in "Lucas", "Beetlejuice" and "Heathers" was so genuine, but everything since those days is ho-hum average, which is too bad because Ryder has one of those faces you don't want to look away from, she can be mesmerizing at times. I think somewhere along the way, she lost faith in herself and became very insecure and that shows up in her adult performances now.

by Anonymousreply 143July 11, 2014 9:33 PM

Noni should do "True Detective" season 2

by Anonymousreply 144July 11, 2014 9:41 PM

R143 And "Mermaids".

by Anonymousreply 145July 11, 2014 9:41 PM

Porn is just around the corner, poor girl.

by Anonymousreply 146July 11, 2014 9:51 PM

R146 When has it ever happened that a former Hollywood star has gone into porn??

by Anonymousreply 147July 11, 2014 11:25 PM

She doesn't need to earn money. I know some people pull a Nic Cage, but some just get rich and stay rich.

by Anonymousreply 148July 11, 2014 11:29 PM

Not "stars" but an actress from the TV show Family Matters, I think the girl who played Pippi Lingstockings in the 90s has. Stephen Geoffrey from Fright Night, Scott Schwartz from The Toy.

by Anonymousreply 149July 11, 2014 11:29 PM

R147: That would be a great topic for a thread.

And BTW, Aldo Ray went from being a Hollywood actor, to doing porn.

by Anonymousreply 150July 11, 2014 11:30 PM

She needs to have her directorial debut.

by Anonymousreply 151July 11, 2014 11:35 PM

people who steal a lot are usually psychopaths. i'm sure winona is one.

by Anonymousreply 152July 11, 2014 11:52 PM

Aw come on, how could that doe-eyed little gamine be a psychopath?

by Anonymousreply 153July 23, 2014 11:05 PM

R143 I think you make a good point actually. When she was really young (teens/early 20s) she seemed to have a confidence that she lacks now. Maybe the pressures of fame wore her down.

by Anonymousreply 154August 2, 2014 12:44 AM

She was only "gorgeous" because she had a fantastic nose job. Angelina did too. They made their careers.

by Anonymousreply 155August 2, 2014 1:16 AM

Oh right, Winona is only gorgeous because of her nose.

by Anonymousreply 156August 2, 2014 1:18 AM

It's also her big brown eyes, delicate bone structure and perfect skin that make her gorgeous. And Angelina was gorgeous before the nose job.

by Anonymousreply 157August 2, 2014 11:15 PM

Noni's gotta eat a little. Get that bosom back.

by Anonymousreply 158August 2, 2014 11:19 PM

R158 - I agree.

by Anonymousreply 159August 2, 2014 11:26 PM

What is Noni doing these days?

by Anonymousreply 160August 2, 2014 11:28 PM

Filming a movie about psychologist Stanley Milgram with Peter Sarsgaard.

by Anonymousreply 161August 2, 2014 11:31 PM

A TV movie with Christopher Walker.

She's also filming a movie about the Milgram obedience experiment.

by Anonymousreply 162August 2, 2014 11:34 PM

Walken, not Walker

by Anonymousreply 163August 2, 2014 11:35 PM

Krysten Ritter looks exactly like a grown up Lydia Deetz. When I see her, it just makes me wish I was watching Winona instead.

by Anonymousreply 164August 2, 2014 11:38 PM

That TV movie (Turks & Caicos) has already been released so it can't be what she's up to right now.

by Anonymousreply 165August 2, 2014 11:38 PM

Krysten Ritter looks like Matthew Goode's sister.

by Anonymousreply 166August 2, 2014 11:41 PM

Krysten Ritter is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 167August 2, 2014 11:44 PM

Yes, but she can't act.

by Anonymousreply 168August 4, 2014 10:55 PM

As a kid from the 90's. I definitely give the edge to Winona in both looks and talent. unfortunately, I think Winona has ruined her career & life with prescription drug abuse, and her erratic behavior is due to those drugs IMO. I think Johnny Deep got her on illegible drugs as well, as he is a junkie scum bag. I still root for Winona though, I hope she overcomes her demons and makes a huge comeback. She had star quality, as well as talent and beauty.

Anyone who says she cannot act has not seen her in Little Women, The Crucible, Girl Interrupted, or The Age of Innocence. She was a true movie star who earned it.

Now for the Goop, no one knew who the fuck she was until she started dating Brad Pitt, and became famous by association. As much as she says she wants to keep her private life out of the public eye now, back then she continuously bragged about being Brads girlfriend. Goop is a social climber, and as much as she loved Brad, I have no problem believing the rumor that slept with Harvey Winstien to get the part for Shakespeare In Love. Winstein campaigned like crazy for the Goop to win that Oscar over the much more deserving Cate Blanchett, and Brad dumped her as around that time too. The Goop is a mediocre actress, and as plain as white bread fully made-up, and ugly as shit without IMO. Winona has natural beauty, she is still attractive and aging nicely, the Goop not so much.

by Anonymousreply 169August 5, 2014 12:14 AM

illegal not illegible

by Anonymousreply 170August 5, 2014 12:28 AM

Wasn't Emma the film that made Gwyneth a star?

by Anonymousreply 171August 5, 2014 2:09 PM

Emma only got media attention because it starred "Brad Pitt's Girlfriend", so no R171, people went to see Clueless instead.

by Anonymousreply 172August 6, 2014 1:59 AM

[quote]Anyone who says she cannot act has not seen her in Little Women, The Crucible, Girl Interrupted, or The Age of Innocence.

I was talking about Krysten Ritter.

by Anonymousreply 173August 7, 2014 6:34 AM

[quote]Emma only got media attention because it starred "Brad Pitt's Girlfriend"


by Anonymousreply 174August 7, 2014 6:42 AM

I like the idea of illegible drugs.

I'm sorry Ms Ryder, I can't fulfill this prescription. 30mb Qxyphodome?

by Anonymousreply 175August 7, 2014 8:07 PM

I went to see Emma and rather enjoyed it. I think it's Paltrow's best performance really.

by Anonymousreply 176August 7, 2014 8:52 PM
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