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German rage, French glee over new NSA spying allegations, France could sue

9:55 AM Fury was building in Europe on Sunday as new leaks about NSA spying were published by various newspapers and magazines. Perhaps most notably, Der Spiegel reported that German Federal Prosecutor’s Office is now looking into allegations about hundreds of millions of German communications monitored by the NSA each month. The European Parliament President characterized the situation as “a huge scandal,” if the allegations turn out to be true. Spying on citizens is something of a touchy topic in Germany and one European Parliament member has already compared NSA to the Stasi, the notorious East German intelligence agency.

The timing of the explosive new claims is awkward. A new round of trade negotiations between the U.S. and the E.U. is starting and the setup is already precarious due to French demands for a cultural exception — i.e. quotas for French movies, television programming and music. The German Green Party demanded on Sunday that the E.U. must immediately suspend trade negotiations. Germany’s Justice Minister, Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, is demanding an immediate explanation from the U.S. government.

This could all work out just splendidly for France, which has until now received scant support from Germany for its demands for restricting American cultural imports to Europe. As weeks go by and new NSA revelations keep popping up, they now threaten to reshape diplomatic relationships across Asia and Europe. This in turn may end up having a substantial impact on trade issues including streaming video, mobile content and application ecosystems, all of which are topics France is itching to address.

It might be that even Apple’s ability to retain absolute control of its iOS app market in Europe may come to play if France’s position is strengthened enough. Just two months ago, France clashed bitterly with Apple over the banning of AppGratis.

by Anonymousreply 1207/13/2013

French Suit: NSA Spying a 'Foreign Attack' on Civil Liberties

Human rights groups file a suit against the mass violation of French civil liberties

- Sarah Lazare, staff writer

As the NSA spying scandal ripples across the world, French human rights organizations announced Thursday they are taking legal action against US spying that they say violated civil liberties and left no French citizen safe.

The International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH) and the Human Rights League jointly filed a suit Thursday demanding the French government investigate not only NSA's Prism surveillance program, but also the cyber companies—including Facebook, Apple, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and Skype—that were party to the unlawful snooping.

An FIDH lawyer declared the spying an unprecedented and "massive attack on individual liberties by a foreign state, because it potentially concerns every French citizen and internet user," the Guardian reports.

A FIDH statement declares that the very basis of French civil liberties are at stake.

This blatant intrusion into individuals’ lives represents a serious threat to individual liberties and, if not stopped, may lead to the end of the rule of law. Outrage in France continues to grow after whistleblower Edward Snowden exposed an NSA spying program that monitors email and phone data across the world, in violation of countless national privacy laws, including on French soil.

by Anonymousreply 107/12/2013

No more VWs?!?

by Anonymousreply 207/12/2013

Germany will be careful about responding too harshly. They sell lots of their products here, and a significant decline in their sales in America will cause their economy to shrink.

France will moan, and Germany will pay lip service. Business as usual...

by Anonymousreply 307/12/2013


by Anonymousreply 407/12/2013

Germany is ruled by an anti-gay right winger (Angela Merkel) who is coming up for re-election this fall. They need every political distraction they can manufacture.

by Anonymousreply 507/13/2013

Obama's legacy is now worse than dubya's.

by Anonymousreply 607/13/2013

This is all smoke and mirrors. The Germans, French and British governments were well aware of the NSA program -- the US shared information with them, and they did the same with their own covertly acquired info. They're just feigning outrage to placate their citizens.

by Anonymousreply 707/13/2013

Germany always looks out for Germany first damn the Franco-German alliance.Carrefour(the French company) is one of the biggest retailers in the world...there's not one in Germany.Germans will pay lip service AND not give a shit. Hollande has a million more problems than this one.

BTW I wouldn't be surprised if the French government has a program that is monitoring citizens of France and other countries around the world.

by Anonymousreply 807/13/2013

People are so naive.

The Internet was built from the old Military's ArchNet. The NSA as been spying and collecting info since the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 907/13/2013

They have lovely histories

The crafty Metternich

The sly Talleyrand. . .

by Anonymousreply 1007/13/2013

I can't believe Obama is now more hated than Bush when it comes to Europe. They see him as a tyrant and not just an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 1107/13/2013

Yes such wonderful histories.....

The maniacal and genocidal Hitler.

The insane and overzealous Robespierre

by Anonymousreply 1207/13/2013
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