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My partner and I bought our house seven years ago, and our backyard bumps up against the back yard of a retired closet queen, who lives in the same house he grew up in with his - now dead - parents.

We had a nightmarish relationship with the guy. He HATED us. Tried to poison the other neighbors against us, stole our garbage, brought us to court over an insane propery line issue. It was like he made it his only prority in life to drive us away.

It lasted four years, but stopped after he broke his hip and was hospitalized. He became a shut-in when he returned home. We hardly ever even see him anymore, where he used to spend his summer nights sitting on his back porch getting drunk, smoking and glaring at our house.

Tonight, my partner was out grilling and had a disturbing interaction with him that suggests he has severe dementia, or some other serious problem. My partner is worried he's going to end up one of those cases where he dies in the house and no one finds him for a week or two.

My partner wants to figure out what agency to call to get the guy some help. But I'm inclined to make this a MYOB case. That guy was such a mean asshole to us both, I really don't want to help him out at all.

by Anonymousreply 7308/18/2013

I agree with MYOB.

by Anonymousreply 107/09/2013

There's nothing more annoying than a fucking busybody. Mind your own goddamned business.

by Anonymousreply 207/09/2013

He's already been so hostile to you that if you interfere he'll just go apeshit on you all over again, demented or no.

Let people reap what they sow.

by Anonymousreply 307/09/2013

OP, what difference does it make really if no one finds him for a good while if he happens to die at home when his time comes?

It makes no difference one way or another.

He'll still be dead no matter when someone finds his body.

And what do you expect a social service agency to do at this point? Check on him every week? He could still be dead a week even if the agency did so.

by Anonymousreply 407/09/2013

OP, I don't understand what you think a social service agency would do for him at this point.

He just needs to live out his life.

by Anonymousreply 507/09/2013

There should be adult protective services in your area. They can help with the situation.

It is likely all the of negative contact you had with him may have stemmed from his mental condition. I am not defending him and know it has not been easy living next to him, however, it may have never really had anything to do with you.

That said, dead people make great neighbors. The smell will subside, the peace and quiet is forever.

by Anonymousreply 607/09/2013

Let him fester, die and rot.

by Anonymousreply 707/09/2013

What would adult protective services do except make a judgment on whether his home is safe or suitable or not?

What can they do to protect him? Adult Protective Services isn't going to put him in a psychiatric hospital because psychiatric hospitals do not exist anymore for long term patients.

by Anonymousreply 807/09/2013

Are you a liberal in general? We should practice compassion for humanity, even and especially on a personal level.

You don't have to be as bitter as your neighbor. We must care about all of humanity, not just the pretty or nice parts. A man like him lived his life in fear and bitterness. He lived an unhappy life. That's really sad for him. Even assholes deserve good care.

I wouldn't let him personally know I was interfering, but I would contact your local senior center and ask for advice, resources and referrals. If you don't have one, call a nursing home. They should at least be able to point you in a direction. Maybe there's nothing that can be done, but it's worth looking into. People with dementia can accidentally set their places on fire if they forget to turn off the burners, so your additional agenda could be to keep your neighborhood safe. Let the rest of the neighbors know. Invite them to take turns checking on him. Say these things delicately.

P.S. A very large percentage of folks who break hips don't live out the next year. He is likely on his way out.

by Anonymousreply 907/09/2013

If you are in Dallas, there is a very good senior resource service.

by Anonymousreply 1007/09/2013

Buy a dog named Karma and put him in your backyard, calling him by name frequently. Just make sure Karma doesn't bite him in the ass because you know, crazy or not, he's got a good lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 1107/09/2013

R9, call a nursing home? bizarre suggestion

Call a senior center? weird and useless suggestion

If he has no relatives, he is on his own. A relative would need to admit him to a nursing home to live in long term care. If he doesn't want long term care in a nursing home, perhaps he wants to live out his life on his own in his own house.

And maybe he doesn't have money for an assisted living apartment complex which can be pricey.

by Anonymousreply 1207/09/2013

Let him be.

You tun him in and 75% of the traffic at Datalounge will be gone overnight.

by Anonymousreply 1307/09/2013

I'm not saying the man would utilize those services, but since they cater to seniors, they might know what the county offers, or any other local charities or options for seniors with dementia (without family). Someone living with dementia is a danger to everyone in their vicinity, if they have access to a car or a stovetop, or have any funky habits that could start fires.

by Anonymousreply 1407/09/2013

Thanks for the responses.

For those of you who asking what I think some agency could do for the guy, I have no idea. I have exactly zero experience in trying to help out mean old dementia cases.

Because this guy is a smoker, I think we're both worried he'll burn down the house. Luckily we're not next to him, the far ends of our backyards share a border.

We've also talked about trying to figure out if he has some relatives who could help. We barely know anything about this guy's life. It's not like we were friendly, then things turned. He decided he hated us, I think, the moment we first met.

I think I'm still leaning more toward MYOB.

by Anonymousreply 1507/09/2013

Wait -- he stole your garbage??

by Anonymousreply 1607/09/2013

Don't call adult protection. They'd probably throw him in a horrible state run nursing home where he will be treated horribly. No matter what I wouldn't want that on my conscience. Just mind your own business. If he dies at home at least it won't be being beaten by someone in a nursing home and covered in bed sores.

by Anonymousreply 1707/09/2013

OP, how do you know he's a closet case?

by Anonymousreply 1807/09/2013

My pussy stinks.

by Anonymousreply 1907/09/2013

R16, at the height of the craziness, we had someone rifling through our garbage bins. It wasn't an animal, it was a person who was opening the bins and bags by hand. Once we started paying attention, sometimes a bag would disappear, then reappear the next day. Or a bag would be moved from one bin to the other. We never caught him in the act, but we're 99 percent sure it was him. Who else would care to examine our garbage?

Ironically enough, the garbage stuff stopped after my partner's sister and her newborn spent a July 4 week with us one summer. The diapers must have freaked him out and scared him away.

R18, Helen Keller would know this guy was a closet case.

by Anonymousreply 2007/09/2013

OP, the calls are coming from inside the house.

by Anonymousreply 2107/09/2013

It can not be stated enough:


by Anonymousreply 2207/09/2013

OP, ignore the idiots here who say MYOB. This asshole has plagued you in the past. Now that he finally is on the ropes, it is the perfect time to obtain the revenge you deserve.

You must act anonymously. There is no need to draw attention to yourself.

Between reports to the city for squalid conditions in the house, anonymous calls to him (cheap cell phone dedicated to the purpose - and use private call), calls to plumbers and electricians and nursing agencies and insurance people pretending to be him and setting up appointments - all the usual little torments - you should have him running naked in the street within three months.

by Anonymousreply 2307/09/2013

With R23, I agree. R17, ignore.

by Anonymousreply 2407/10/2013

"My partner is worried he's going to end up one of those cases where he dies in the house and no one finds him for a week or two."

Buy a case of Febreze and a big blade electric fan and wait for a concentration of flies.

by Anonymousreply 2507/10/2013

If you know your mailman, ask him to keep an eye on the place for mail building up. That's only useful if he hurts himself or dies.

For fires or a gas explosion or whatever - I have no idea what to tell you.

by Anonymousreply 2607/10/2013

If you do contact Adult Protection Services, you run the risk of that agency telling him that you are the neighbors who called Adult Protective Services and he could take out vengeance on you for doing so.

by Anonymousreply 2707/10/2013

I agree. BYOB

by Anonymousreply 2807/10/2013

R9 had the best advice although I would call local social services for advice. There may not be anything you can do. On the other hand, he may qualify for some assistance that might improve the quality of his life. No reason not to help someone if you think they may be in trouble in their own home. As I said, follow professional advice.

by Anonymousreply 2907/10/2013

OP, please update this thread from time to time.

by Anonymousreply 3007/10/2013

If an elderly person wants to stay in their own house, there is nothing that can be done.

Adult Protective Services can make a visit and deem that there are safety issues with the condition of the house, but they cannot force the elderly person out of the house if it's a matter of safety conditions rather than general overall squalor.

If the elderly person has relatives, sometimes the relatives can convince the elderly person to move to a nursing home or long term care or assisted living apartment complex, but assisted living apt complexes can be quite expensive and often the elderly prefer to live out their life span in their own house.

Insurance coverage is also a problem because Medicare and additional insurance often do not cover long term care in long term care facilities or indefinite stays in nursing homes.

How does the OP know there is squalor inside the house, if there is?

by Anonymousreply 3107/10/2013

Call Sunshine Cleaning.

Amy Adams and Emily Blunt show up. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 3207/10/2013

If I were you and your partner, OP, I would not go anywhere near this situation. You're under no compulsion to do so - legally or morally - and all you're doing is inviting more headaches in your life.

Frankly, if your partner continues to press the issue, I'd start to worry a little about HIM.

by Anonymousreply 3307/10/2013

Wait, I'm totally confused. You're partner was out back grilling, so he's obviously the top. But then he wants to be a busybody, which would indicate he's a total bottom.

Explain, OP?

by Anonymousreply 3407/10/2013

Holy shit you found Umpy!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 3507/10/2013

OP, this was my neighbor too, it was a she and she was batshit cray-cray.

She ended up estranging herself from every relative she had and ended up signing over her house to the creepy couple that she paid to take care of her. Then she blew her depressed ass brains out with a shot gun. The police came over the see if any bits of her was stuck to my house.

Any whoo, the people that ripped her off sold the house and the current owner rents it to a pack of sleaze fucks.

So, my advice, find out who's taking care of him, find someone for him and GO SHOPPING

PS her kids, who haven't been around for years are now going WTF.

by Anonymousreply 3607/10/2013

"Let the rest of the neighbors know."

Someone posted this comment a while ago. Are other neighbors also worried? Does a long-time resident know if your neighbor has any living relatives?

Also, Medicare does not cover nursing homes, but Medicaid does, after you spend down all other financial assets.

by Anonymousreply 3707/10/2013

OP, you have no idea what strange legal complications may ensue, or what this neighbor of yours might do. You said he has already given you legal trouble. What is your partner's motivation, anyway? Why doesn't he just mind his own business? Busybodies always make any situation worse.

by Anonymousreply 3807/10/2013


The New Old Age - Caring and Coping July 10, 2013,

Unable to Cope, Unwilling to Accept Aid By JUDITH GRAHAM

The 72-year-old man hadn’t bathed in more than six months. His hair was long and matted. Instead of using the bathroom, he would urinate in a bucket and throw it out the window.

From his standpoint, nothing was wrong: he was living the way he liked. But his neighbors in Houston thought his neglectful habits and filthy house were a health hazard.

They called the local adult protective services agency, which investigated and brought in a geriatric team from the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston for a consultation. Sabrina Pickens, a nurse, went to the man’s home, located in a fairly wealthy neighborhood.

It reeked of human waste, Ms. Pickens recalled, one of the worst examples of self-neglect she had seen — and she has examined hundreds of people with this condition.

It is a surprisingly common problem in older adults; self-neglect is believed to account for nearly 40 percent of all cases of abuse and neglect in the elderly. You’ve read about extreme examples: the elderly Arizona woman with 104 cats at her house, or the aunt and cousin of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis who resided at Grey Gardens, a once-grand East Hampton mansion, with no running water and piles of garbage.

Once, elderly adults of this sort were considered eccentric or alarmingly idiosyncratic. Today, researchers believe they have underlying medical or mental health issues — depression, dementia and delirium top the list — that compromise their ability to function and care for themselves, according to a recent panel sponsored by the Institute of Medicine.

It isn’t easy to help this hidden, difficult-to-reach population. But recent research, not yet published, suggests that connecting elderly people who cannot care for themselves with a team of multidisciplinary specialists and with physical therapy can have an impact, said Jason Burnett, associate director of clinical and behavioral research at the Texas Elder Abuse and Mistreatment Institute.

Mostly, these older adults live alone, shunning contact with family or friends. Relatives become frustrated when their efforts to offer assistance are rejected; they frequently drop out of the picture. Authorities become aware of these cases mostly when temporary caregivers, neighbors or others report them to adult protective services agencies.

Six years ago, Texas researchers studied 538 elderly people suffering from self-neglect and published results in the American Journal of Public Health. Sixty percent had abnormal results on a test evaluating their cognition and executive functioning. More than three-quarters showed deficits in their ability to perform instrumental daily activities, like paying bills, shopping for groceries, cooking meals. Sixteen percent had depressive symptoms; 95 percent reported moderate to poor social support.

How do experts recognize self-neglect? People stop bathing, eating, cleaning their homes, taking their medications, managing their financial affairs, disposing of garbage, going to the doctor and more.

“You’ll see an older man with physical disabilities who hoards and who persistently falls at home because of the environmental hazards,” said Dr. XinQi Dong, associate director of Rush University Medical Center’s Institute for Healthy Aging in Chicago. “Or a patient with diabetes and congestive heart disease, reliant on an oxygen tank, who smokes two packs a day, refuses to take her insulin and is unclean to a degree that endangers her health.”

He and other experts consider self-neglect a geriatric syndrome like frailty, delirium or falls associated with the deterioration of multiple physical functions as people age.

In Houston, the unkempt older man Ms. Pickens visited had lost more than 50 pounds since his mother, who had lived with him, died the year before. Depressed and stubborn, he had declined help from a concerned stepdaughter, the only family member with whom he had any contact.

by Anonymousreply 3907/10/2013

This article in today's NY Times says that a public guardian can be appointed for the elderly person with dementia or problems.

by Anonymousreply 4007/10/2013

“One of the cardinal features of self-neglect is the refusal of any type of assistance,” Ms. Pickens said, adding that the man told her he didn’t think anything was wrong with his situation.

During a physical examination, the nurse discovered two alarmingly large growths in his mouth: throat cancer. Within a few months, he was dead.

Dr. Dong and colleagues have studied thousands of older adults in three Chicago neighborhoods since 1993. In a study published in The Journal of the American Medical Association, they found that the elderly were almost six times as likely to die within a year if they had been reported for self-neglect, compared with those without this condition.

When vulnerable seniors come to his attention, “we try to treat the underlying issues: depression, the side effects of medication, the need for supportive community services,” Dr. Dong said. But if an older adult is mentally competent and refuses help, nothing can be done.

“If this is how a person chooses to live and there’s no issue of safety or incompetence, you have to respect that,” said Ann Wohlberg, program director of the Chicago chapter of Little Brothers, a social services agency that sees several cases of self-neglect every month.

When an individual is deemed to lack mental capacity, a public guardian will typically be appointed to make decisions on his behalf if a relative does not come forward.

Often, it is not easy to figure out what’s a reasonable choice for an individual — what constitutes self-neglect and what constitutes neglect by caregivers. Dr. Dong tells a story about a mentally alert obese woman with diabetes in her 60s who kept returning to Rush Medical Center complaining about pain that was poorly controlled.

“We thought she was a noncompliant diabetes patient who was neglecting herself,” he said. That perspective changed when a physical therapist from Rush visited the woman’s house, which was in shambles, and learned that her adult children, who lived with her, were selling her narcotic medications.

“It was very complicated,” Dr. Dong said. “She was choosing to live in that terrible environment because her kids had mental illnesses and she felt it was her fault.”

Once Dr. Dong’s team began dealing with the woman’s social circumstances, “she actually became a very compliant patient,” he said. “She wanted someone to understand the daily stresses she was living with.”

The doctor’s bottom line: “If you have an older person who you’re concerned about, raise the red flag. Call adult protective services if you’re worried. All of us have a significant role to play in watching out for our neighbors.”

by Anonymousreply 4107/10/2013

Maybe he was mean because he had the early stages of dementia, it can make some people so angry and paranoid. Maybe he couldn't help being awful. That's what happened to my parents neighbor, he went from a nice man, to the neighborhood grump, to totally lost.

I don't know what your options are. My parents neighbor suffered from dementia, my mother asked his son to get him some help. He didn't and in the same week crashed his car and burnt down part of his kitchen. He now resides in a nursing home where he has long talks with his wife ( who died 10 years ago) and looks out the window on regular basis waiting for his dad to come home from the war.

by Anonymousreply 4207/10/2013

R39 is a hit at all the parties.

by Anonymousreply 4307/11/2013

R31, I must respectfully disagree. I have a friend whose father (this was some years ago, before I met her) and her brother (alcoholic, wastrel- but charming personality) were living together (wife/mother had died a while before) in a house, owned in full by the father; lived there probably 20 years - and they were living in filth, squalor (this in a suburb of Syracuse NY). I don't know if it was a neighbor, mailman, whomever - but someone visited, called Adult Protective Services, and the father and brother were put out and the house condemned.

Father went to a nursing home; brother went - wherever (not homeless)(they have a bigt family; another brother took him in; later got SSI and lives (still drinks) in a mobile home.

ANYway: this can and does happen. I don't know the legal standard for Board of Health declaring a property so bad that it has to be condemend. And I can't remember the rest; maybe was sold for a pittance.

I'm 50ish, mentally disabled:depression and the "milder" (Bipolar II) version of Bipolar, these last 5 years, and quite frankly if my brother didn't keept an eye on me, LITERALLY, I would "qualify" for about 4 of the items mentioned in the article someone quoted at length:urinating on the couch (SORRY to gross you out:only happened 3 times in 8 years; assume that's gross enough; sorry); garbage piles up; housekeeping hideous; brother has control of my finances - BUT I DO always take my (17:only 2 psych meds) meds, and God knows I eat (too much.)

Sorry to go on and on; in short:I think OP/his partner SHOULD call someone.

TO the poster who said, OP would have to worrh that APS would tell the neighbor he called: is that true? isn't it confidential? sorry, don't know.

Best wishes, OP.

by Anonymousreply 4407/11/2013

R44, did the OP mention his neighbor lives in squalor?

(I would need to go back and read the OP)

How would the OP know whether his neighbor lives in squalor or not, never having been in the neighbor's house?

Your example, R44, is one of squalor.

The OP's examples is one of dementia of the neighbor and maybe the neighbor dying alone.

But the OP's neighbor somehow got help in going to the hospital and receiving treatment for a broken hip.

So either the OP's neighbor is cognitive enough to have sought help for his broken hip or he had/has someone helping him.

R44, the question of squalor is very different from the question of dementia.

by Anonymousreply 4507/11/2013

I'm the OP. I never said the guy lived in squalor. I've never been inside his house, and the front faces out on a different street, and I don't have any reason to pass it.

I did always think he was one of those guys who are super fussy and put together in real life, but then live alone in a garbage house. But that may just be wishful thinking on my part because the guy was such an ass.

Before his hip accident, any time we went into our back yard, he was either already outside or would be on his porch in minutes, glaring at us. After the hip accident, we would only see him outside maybe a few times each summer. He did have a garden, but had sod put over it after his accident. His back yard is now pretty plain, but it is kept mowed, so it's not in obvious squalor.

My partner's run in with him was brief. He was out at the grill, and the guy walked through his backyard into ours. That alone startled my partner. Then the guy introduced himself and acted like we were new neighbors he'd never met. He started asking about if we had seen the milkman, and then stopped and had what seemed like a moment of clarity and turned around and went back to his house.

His hair had grown out and he looked rumpled and dirty. He also smelled like he might have crapped his pants, or was wearing something that had crap smeared on it. All of that combined was what freaked out my partner.

I have no idea what the medical diagnosis is for the guy, but something is obviously wrong with him.

by Anonymousreply 4607/11/2013

Why not start a grease fire on his porch?

by Anonymousreply 4707/11/2013

I agree that he is fucked up enough he'll likely die soon, so waiting it out is probably the best plan.

It's also probable that he's incredibly homophobic and hates you because you're gay.

Best to stay away from him and let him die his own life.

by Anonymousreply 4807/11/2013

R44, you should check out the GAPS diet. You can get a lot of the info free online. It could really help you and you can make it delicious.

If you're only 50ish, you could easily improve tremendously. GAPS means Gut and Psychology Syndrome. Brain issues (such as some forms of mental illness) have been evidence-linked to gut problems. You can make some food changes that will get your gut on track, and change (to some degree, perhaps a large enough degree that it brings you relief and greater function) what happens in your brain.

Good luck.

by Anonymousreply 4907/12/2013

Diets, medications, social services that's all fine but what these people really need are family and friends to take care of them.

by Anonymousreply 5007/12/2013

I recommend you sneak over there and smother him with a pillow. As least you'll know what the stink is when it starts in a few days.

by Anonymousreply 5107/12/2013

Burn his house down

by Anonymousreply 5207/12/2013

A lot of states have a counsel on aging and they can send a social worker out to see how he's doing and let him know about options and programs that will help. Also if he's in bad shape they can get help for him.

by Anonymousreply 5307/12/2013

OP: While your neighbor clearly has problems, he was able to walk over to talk to your partner.

Is he your only neighbor, because you have never mentioned anyone else? If not, have you talked to the other neighbors. I do not understand how this has because solely your problem.

by Anonymousreply 5407/12/2013

It's only OP's problem because OP is a busybody.

Good fences make good neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 5507/12/2013

As long as he doesn't have a gun to shoot the op with, I say leave the guy alone. Maybe he's ready to die, let him die in peace.

Every life doesn't have to go one for ever. Sometimes you realize your best years are over and you know it's time to move on.

by Anonymousreply 5607/12/2013

OP chiming in again.

[quote]Is he your only neighbor, because you have never mentioned anyone else? If not, have you talked to the other neighbors. I do not understand how this has because solely your problem.

Very soon after he started hassling us, we made the decision not to talk to other neighbors about him. We were the new ones in the neighborhood, and we didn't want to start a battle.

We are cordial with several neighbors, but not really close to any of them. There was a lesbian couple we hit it off with, but they moved out of state about a year after we moved in. There was also a really nice old lady who would bring us homemade apple pies - she's the one who told us about his broken hip - but she retired to Florida after her husband died.

[quote]It's only OP's problem because OP is a busybody.

How on earth am I a busybody? Perhaps I haven't been clear enough, but we have both spent the last three years trying to ignore this guy completely, while enjoying the fact he was no longer trying to run us out of our house.

The whole experience with this guy was so negative, before this week, we really didn't even talk about him much anymore between ourselves. We were just happy with the peace.

by Anonymousreply 5707/12/2013

Sometimes the squalid houses are owned by females, but often by males who were used to having women cook and clean for them. When the mother/wife dies, they haven't a clue how to properly care for themselves. My 86 year old FIL will have to go into a home if his wife dies first. He's never made a bed, never used a vacuum and never so much as boiled an egg. And he's a cheap bastard -- they don't have a microwave. He figures why should they waste the money when his wife has been cooking just fine without one all of her life.

by Anonymousreply 5807/12/2013

OP. Thanks for your response. I grew up in two towns outside of Boston. My mom grew up in Boston, and hated living anywhere else. But, she adjusted and made friends easily. My dad was not particularly outgoing, and more interested in his job. Luck has a lot to do with it, one day a neighbor from five or six blocks away noticed that she had bought too much at the store, and helped unload the car. They became best friends for the rest of her life.

So I understand why you only know a few neighbors.

by Anonymousreply 5907/13/2013

What is it with breaking hips and the severe decline after that? Every elder person I know who broke hips just went downhill after that. Almost as if it's a catalyst for every other disease and condition to kick in.

by Anonymousreply 6007/13/2013

OP, why do you think he was taking your garbage? Was he looking for used condoms or evidence of drug use to get you arrested?

by Anonymousreply 6107/13/2013

[quote] Luck has a lot to do with it, one day a neighbor from five or six blocks away noticed that she had bought too much at the store,

Why did she buy too much at the store? Was she demented?

by Anonymousreply 6207/13/2013

I'm not sure of this but I think a broken hip and the surgery for it send little blood clots through the body. Maybe they cause mini strokes or something.

by Anonymousreply 6307/13/2013

"Why did she buy too much at the store? Was she demented?"

No, she was fine. The neighbor stopped partly because he had worked with my late dad.

by Anonymousreply 6407/13/2013

I'm not sure what point R59/R64 is trying to make, and how it relates in any way to the OP's issues (beyond it involving old people and neighbors).

Am I missing something?

by Anonymousreply 6507/13/2013

OP here. Our problem may be solved. The old guy has disappeared.

We were out this morning doing some yard work when two cops showed up and asked us a ton of questions.

The guy's mail piled up all week and the mail carrier called the police on Friday afternoon. They found his front door was unlocked and there was no sign of him anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 6608/17/2013

Our maybe, OP, your problems are just beginning.

by Anonymousreply 6708/17/2013

Why not be better than the guy and show some compassion for him like your partner is capable of?

by Anonymousreply 6808/17/2013

What I don't understand is why, seven years ago, you didn't plant a thick row of something ugly but fast growing, like Emerald Arborvitae. You'd have a tall barrier between the properties by now.

by Anonymousreply 6908/17/2013

[quote]Our maybe, OP, your problems are just beginning.

Well, it's funny, it did feel like we were under suspicion. The cops did ask a lot of questions, including where we were last weekend (we were out of town staying at a lake cabin). But we answered everything. It's not like we have anything to hide.

[quote]What I don't understand is why, seven years ago, you didn't plant a thick row of something ugly but fast growing, like Emerald Arborvitae. You'd have a tall barrier between the properties by now.

I don't want to bog this down with too many details, but there (was) a giant tree that straddled our property lines that was the cause of a lot of the initial headache with the guy. We do have some small trees in the backyard and the way the landscape falls, we do have a measure of privacy.

by Anonymousreply 7008/17/2013

Do you have people who can vouch that you were out of town that weekend? Witnesses?

by Anonymousreply 7108/17/2013

Wow, this story is Especially Starting To get very very good.

OP, you buy a new computer or clear cookies lately? Trolldar....

by Anonymousreply 7208/17/2013

What is your point, R72?

I'm R66 and R70, and I signed my posts.

Yes, I have cleared my cookies in the month that passed since the last time I posted to this thread. I usually clear my cookies at least once a week.

by Anonymousreply 7308/18/2013
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