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Was Michael Hastings murdered for attempting to expose government crimes?

Three weeks ago Michael Hastings was killed in a spectacular car crash, so fiery that it is rarely, if ever, seen outside a cinema.

Hastings had written a profile of Gen Stanley McChrystal for Rolling Stone in 2010, the fallout of which resulted in the General retiring, disgraced. Hours before the crash Hastings had contacted his lawyers about a new, explosive and damaging journalistic piece exposing criminal activity by high ranking government employees.

The police and fire departments, as well as the Medical Examiner, have refused to release any internal reports.

In this video, San Diego-based reporter Kimberly Dvorak discuses the Michael Hastings crash. She mentions the unusual intensity of the fire and the unusual location of the engine relative to the body of the car.

This looks like a political murder, perhaps as payback and warning to other whistleblowers.

by Anonymousreply 13707/11/2014

The video report with Dvorak can be viewed at the link.

by Anonymousreply 107/08/2013

From Dvorak -

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An eyewitness at the scene, Jose, employed at nearby business ALSCO Inc said, the car was travelling very fast and he heard a couple explosions shortly before the car crashed.

In fact, the explosion was so intense that it took the LA County assistant corner, Ed Winter, two days to identify the burned-beyond recognition body of Hastings. Officials confirm that an autopsy has been performed, but the cause of death is pending. LAPD media spokesperson Lieutenant Andrew Neiman said, “it will take several weeks to get the toxicology results.” By stark contrast, in Italy, ‘Sopranos’ star James Gandolfini’s family received the toxicology report within a few days.

Despite the intensity of the single car accident, an LAPD statement determined that there was “no foul play” involved.

As news of the journalist’s death reached family and work colleagues another story emerged, one that would seemingly contradict the LAPD’s verdict. It quickly surfaced that Hastings reached out to Wikileaks attorney Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before his death claiming the FBI was investigating him.

In an atypical response the FBI Los Angeles-based bureau spokeswoman Laura Eimiller emailed media emphatically denying their agency was looking into Mr. Hastings background.

Once the back and forth commenced, friends of Hastings posted the last frantic email they would receive from their colleague. It read:

“Subject: FBI Investigation, re: NSA -Hey (redacted names) — the Feds are interviewing my “close friends and associates.” Perhaps if the authorities arrive “BuzzFeed GQ,” er HQ, may be wise to immediately request legal counsel before any conversations or interviews about our news gathering practices or related journalism issues. Also: I’m onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit.

All the best, and hope to see you all soon. Michael”

After learning about Hastings death, Ben Smith, editor in chief of BuzzFeed.com, released a statement saying the staff was “shocked and devastated by the news that Michael Hastings is gone. Michael was a great, fearless journalist with an incredible instinct for the story, and a gift for finding ways to make his readers care about anything he covered from wars to politicians.”

One particular passage in Hastings book, “The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America's War in Afghanistan,” revealed that a former McChrystal staff member made a death threat. “We'll hunt you down and kill you if we don't like what you write,” the unnamed staffer said. Hastings coolly retorted: “Well, I get death threats like that about once a year, so no worries.”

He later wrote; “I wasn't disturbed by the claim. Whenever I'd been reporting around groups of dudes whose job it was to kill people, one of them would usually mention that they were going to kill me.”

by Anonymousreply 307/08/2013

Disturbing details surrounding the actual accident

After reading accounts of the car crash and examining the scene of the accident erroneous details were hard to overlook. Stories discussed the road as narrow, not true, it’s a four-lane road with a large median dividing traffic. Some reports said there was a curve in the road, also not true; in fact it’s straight freeway-to-freeway. Also, there was no damage to the median curb, only fire discoloration. But the most significant missing evidence was the absence of any skid marks—even though the car made a 60-degree turn into a palm tree.

Research of this topic reveals a new angle to this story, namely —Boston Brakes.

This theory was explained by a former Marine Gordon Duff who refers to the “Boston Brakes” technique, in which “drive by wire” cars, specifically a Mercedes Benz, can be manipulated remotely to simulate an out-of-control accident, according to his Veterans Today story (The 2010 story is a must read). The story details are eerily similar to Hastings fiery accident scene as there were no skid marks.

Adding credence to the possible car-hacking scenario is former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke. After news broke on the Hastings car accident, he confirmed the “drive by wire” concept.

Clarke told The Huffington Post that a single-vehicle crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack. There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers -- including the United States -- know how to remotely seize control of a car.”

Specifically, a 2010 research project conducted by the University of California at San Diego and the University of Washington Engineering Departments demonstrated how easy it was to override a vehicle’s computer system and drive it remotely. A request for an on/off camera interview by this reporter was declined.

Clarke’s interview with The Huffington Post explains, “You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it's not that hard.”

Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot. Reviewing video footage from the scene, the intensity of the fire resembles a “thermite” burn.

No matter how you slice this highly suspicious car accident, a Mercedes is not going to explode into flames without assistance. Car aficionados say fires in new cars happen for three main reasons, “running the engine out of oil, running the engine out of coolant, or a mammoth car mangling accident, that leaves the hot side of the battery to short out against the frame before it reaches the fuse panel.”

by Anonymousreply 407/08/2013

[all posts by tedious troll removed.]

by Anonymousreply 507/08/2013

Research of this topic reveals a new angle to this story, namely —Boston Brakes.

This theory was explained by a former Marine Gordon Duff who refers to the “Boston Brakes” technique, in which “drive by wire” cars, specifically a Mercedes Benz, can be manipulated remotely to simulate an out-of-control accident, according to his Veterans Today story (The 2010 story is a must read). The story details are eerily similar to Hastings fiery accident scene as there were no skid marks.

Adding credence to the possible car-hacking scenario is former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke. After news broke on the Hastings car accident, he confirmed the “drive by wire” concept.

Clarke told The Huffington Post that a single-vehicle crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack. There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers -- including the United States -- know how to remotely seize control of a car.”

Specifically, a 2010 research project conducted by the University of California at San Diego and the University of Washington Engineering Departments demonstrated how easy it was to override a vehicle’s computer system and drive it remotely. A request for an on/off camera interview by this reporter was declined.

Clarke’s interview with The Huffington Post explains, “You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it's not that hard.”

Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot. Reviewing video footage from the scene, the intensity of the fire resembles a “thermite” burn.

No matter how you slice this highly suspicious car accident, a Mercedes is not going to explode into flames without assistance. Car aficionados say fires in new cars happen for three main reasons, “running the engine out of oil, running the engine out of coolant, or a mammoth car mangling accident, that leaves the hot side of the battery to short out against the frame before it reaches the fuse panel.”

First, thanks to science and mathematics accident scene re-construction analysts should be able to “somewhat” calculate things like the dynamic energy of the impact in addition to the gravity force required for separating the engine/transmission from the vehicle.

The 2013 Mercedes Hastings drove that fateful night in June is equipped with MBRACE (emergency call system), SOS telephone and the Voice Control System. It is similar to the ONSTAR program, and can directly link the driver to a representative in case of emergencies. The Mercedes manual reads: “Information about electronic data acquisition in the vehicle (Including notice pursuant to California Code § 9951). If your vehicle is equipped with MBRACE, data is transmitted in the event of an accident.”

The manual continues: “The wireless devices of this vehicle comply with Part 15 of the FCC Rules Operation and is subject to the following two conditions: 1) These devices may not cause harmful interference, and 2) These devices must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.

Changes or modifications not expressly approved by the party responsible for compliance could void the user’s authority to operate the equipment.”

by Anonymousreply 607/08/2013

Changes or modifications not expressly approved by the party responsible for compliance could void the user’s authority to operate the equipment.”

In a statement from Mercedes, Olivia C. states; “At this time, the police are still conducting their investigation into this tragedy. They have not yet asked for our assistance, but we stand ready to assist if and when they do.”

Despite the LAPD's categorization of the Hasting fatal accident as a "no (evidence of) foul play" accident, LAPD refuses to release the accident and toxicology reports, or make the Mercedes available for inspection which only fuels speculation.

Relevant to the single car accident conclusion by LAPD, it must be noted that Michael Hastings had history that included alcohol and drug abuse, but reports from his family and friends say he kicked the habit.

by Anonymousreply 707/08/2013

I can't imagine how anyone really thought this was an accident.

by Anonymousreply 807/08/2013

It just goes to show, you are safest in a car built before 1999.

by Anonymousreply 907/08/2013

R5-

That is why I find the "government is good as long as MY party is in charge" mentality so infuriating.

There. Is. One. Party! The supposed differences between Rs and Ds make me sick.

They both support corporate bailouts, domestic and international spying, senseless wars, subsidies to big corporations, the rape of the bottom 99.9% by the banks...but the average person on DL thinks that differences on gay marriage and abortion are enough to separate them. Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 1107/08/2013

R10-

Why is he an asshole? Because he had the balls to expose the .01% that control our country?

Why is he an asshole? Please elaborate.

You sound like a shop-owner in Leipzig in 1941 wondering why you should be bothered by the loss of a few customers taken off to the trains.

FUCK.

YOU.

by Anonymousreply 1207/08/2013

Maybe Price Philip ordered another hit?

by Anonymousreply 1307/08/2013

Prince Philip wasn't the victim of Hastings. MacChrystal was.

by Anonymousreply 1407/08/2013

R13-

Please take your conspiracy elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 1507/08/2013

Tip of the iceberg.

by Anonymousreply 1607/08/2013

I didn't do it...

by Anonymousreply 1707/08/2013

Had this been set up as a poll question, my answer is . . .

YES

by Anonymousreply 1807/08/2013

Michael Hasting shoes were tied with the left part of the lace over the right. But if he were right handed we should expect his shoes to be tied the other way, right over left. So it's clear that someone else put on his shoes.

by Anonymousreply 1907/08/2013

Get ready to blow your mind: He's not really dead. He's being held prisoner in the basement of the Denver international Airport. Which raises the question--Who was in the car?

by Anonymousreply 2007/08/2013

[quote] She mentions the unusual intensity of the fire and the unusual location of the engine relative to the body of the car.

It's (engines catapulting out of car) been known to happen in high speed crashes. And about five cars a day catch fire in America after a collision

by Anonymousreply 2107/09/2013

Adding to R19, Michael Hastings' evening gloves were permanently yellowed with tobacco stains, yet a cigarette holder was found clenched in his charred hands at the scene of the accident!

by Anonymousreply 2207/09/2013

Hastings held the steering wheel, but who held the power?

You hvae no idea...

by Anonymousreply 2307/09/2013

Was Hastings a libertarian? I thought we were hating on Josh Barro for that now. DL is confusing sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 2507/09/2013

Even the International Business Times!!!

by Anonymousreply 2607/09/2013

You can really trust a publication like the IBT when it makes statements like this:

[quote]the Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald pointed out that Hastings’ last article for BuzzFeed was on the NSA and the Democrats’ love of spying on Americans

by Anonymousreply 2707/09/2013

LOL! Another funny thread.

So far there has been nothing unusual about this accident. The toxicology reports usually take weeks if not longer in the US especially a busy area like LA - what is anyone doing comparing tox reports from LA and a tox report from Italy for? I assume to rouse suspicion where there is none.

There were no skid marks (if that is true) because this drunken driver never hit his brakes while his car was in contact with the ground.

The engine seems in a logical position given that the car hit a tree at a tremendous impact and sent the engine flying forward.

Highland does change a short distance before the accident site. The median strip begins again at the intersection of Highland and Melrose dividing up the road. Further there is a left hand turn lane at the Melrose intersection that doesn't allow you to go straight on Highland through the intersection. I can find plausible a number of scenarios that could case a drunk driver to lose control of a high speed car that would result in the accident that followed.

People are really reaching for all sorts of reasons to make this car accident more than it was - mostly to do with their own need for attention and drama.

by Anonymousreply 2807/09/2013

Of course he was murdered.

by Anonymousreply 2907/09/2013

Yes, he murdered himself with the deadly combination of substance abuse and fast, reckless driving. Typical male behavior.

by Anonymousreply 3007/09/2013

R30, all cars built in the 21st century can be hijacked and riven by remote control.

Hastings destroyed the career of a high-ranking general and he was poised to do further damage with his muck-raking journalism. He put himself in a perfect position to be murdered in retaliation with today's high-tech military weaponry.

by Anonymousreply 3107/09/2013

R30-

Hastings wrote extensively about his sobriety.

His friends and family have not seen him take a drink in nearly 10 years.

They have also chided him (prior to his death) about "driving like a granny" due to his refusal to speed.

by Anonymousreply 3207/09/2013

The Michael Hastings Car Crash: No Skids Marks, A Flying Engine And “Boston Brakes”

In cases such as the highly suspicious and tragic car crash/explosion that killed celebrated investigative journalist Michael Hastings, I try to reserve commentary for a little bit to let facts emerge following the initial speculative flurry. Particularly when it involves a journalist with whom I am only slightly familiar. I think we can all agree at this point that based on what has come forward in the past several weeks it is more than likely Mr. Hastings was murdered. The following report from San Diego News 6 provides an excellent summary of what we know, and what we don’t know. The LAPD doesn’t seem to care much about the latter. From San Diego 6:

An eyewitness at the scene, Jose, employed at nearby business ALSCO Inc said, the car was traveling very fast and he heard a couple explosions shortly before the car crashed. In fact, the explosion was so intense that it took the LA County assistant corner, Ed Winter, two days to identify the burned-beyond recognition body of Hastings.

As news of the journalist’s death reached family and work colleagues another story emerged, one that would seemingly contradict the LAPD’s verdict. It quickly surfaced that Hastings reached out to Wikileaks attorney Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before his death claiming the FBI was investigating him.

One particular passage in Hastings book, “The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America’s War in Afghanistan,” revealed that a former McChrystal staff member made a death threat. “We’ll hunt you down and kill you if we don’t like what you write,” the unnamed staffer said. Hastings coolly retorted: “Well, I get death threats like that about once a year, so no worries.”

He later wrote; “I wasn’t disturbed by the claim. Whenever I’d been reporting around groups of dudes whose job it was to kill people, one of them would usually mention that they were going to kill me.”

But the most significant missing evidence was the absence of any skid marks—even though the car made a 60-degree turn into a palm tree.

Research of this topic reveals a new angle to this story, namely —Boston Brakes.

CONT

by Anonymousreply 3307/09/2013

This theory was explained by a former Marine Gordon Duff who refers to the “Boston Brakes” technique, in which “drive by wire” cars, specifically a Mercedes Benz, can be manipulated remotely to simulate an out-of-control accident, according to his Veterans Today story (The 2010 story is a must read). The story details are eerily similar to Hastings fiery accident scene as there were no skid marks.

Adding credence to the possible car-hacking scenario is former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke. After news broke on the Hastings car accident, he confirmed the “drive by wire” concept.

Clarke told The Huffington Post that a single-vehicle crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack. There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car.”

Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot. Reviewing video footage from the scene, the intensity of the fire resembles a “thermite” burn.

Despite the LAPD’s categorization of the Hasting fatal accident as a “no (evidence of) foul play” accident, LAPD refuses to release the accident and toxicology reports, or make the Mercedes available for inspection which only fuels speculation.

LAPD on the case as usual.

by Anonymousreply 3407/09/2013

Even more info at the link.

by Anonymousreply 3507/09/2013

I'm surprised you tinhats aren't busy discussing Roswell.

by Anonymousreply 3607/09/2013

Because we aren't tinhats and we don't believe there were aliens at Roswell.

by Anonymousreply 3707/09/2013

Is a bot copy/pasting the same passages over and over again to this thread?

by Anonymousreply 3807/09/2013

I'm surprised R36 isn't discussing reality TV. No doubt that would be more his intellectual speed.

by Anonymousreply 3907/10/2013

Amen, R39

by Anonymousreply 4007/10/2013

I hope that she continues to investigate this.

Our government is already worse than the Nazis.

Look at how many innocent people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc. at the hand of the US military.

6 million Jews versus 10 million Arabs?

A Holocaust is a Holocaust, whether the victims are Jew, Muslim, gay, black, etc. and the fact that our government has bombed them for 60+ years means we are no better than the citizens of Nazi Germany.

They also thought they were free.

by Anonymousreply 4107/11/2013

[quote]Our government is already worse than the Nazis.

Well, sure, if you're an ignorant paranoid loon with no knowledge of history and only a tenuous grip on reality.

by Anonymousreply 4207/11/2013

[quote]Our government is already worse than the Nazis.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was about to say (eye rolls).

by Anonymousreply 4307/11/2013

[Hastings wrote extensively about his sobriety. His friends and family have not seen him take a drink in nearly 10 years.]

Yes, and recovering alcoholics NEVER, EVER relapse

by Anonymousreply 4407/11/2013

I'm sad about what happened, but he always looked drunk to me.

by Anonymousreply 4507/11/2013

Nice rant at r11, OP.

by Anonymousreply 4607/11/2013

From the link at R35

[quote] the car was traveling very fast and he heard a couple explosions shortly before the car crashed.

In every single high speed accident involving a vehicle hiting a stationary object, witnesses ALWAYS say it sounded like an explosion. When a car hits a house, everyone on the block says it sounded like an explosion. The same thing happens when a car hits a big fence

[quote] former McChrystal staff member made a death threat. “We’ll hunt you down and kill you if we don’t like what you write,”

He's gone. He's been gone and no one gives a shit about McChrystal or what happened to him

[quote] In fact, the explosion was so intense that it took the LA County assistant corner, Ed Winter, two days to identify the burned-beyond recognition body of Hastings

It usually takes longer than 2 days to do that. They did a rush job on his DNA because of who he was. Even if they identified him by dental records, it takes a few days to get the records from the person's dentist and a few days to find a forensic dentist to compare the x-rays.

[quote] LAPD refuses to release the accident and toxicology reports, or make the Mercedes available for inspection which only fuels speculation.

Toxicology results can take 6 to 8 weeks or even longer. There's this thing called a backlog in every single governmental testing lab in the country. There are rape kits that are waiting to be tested for more than two years in many, many states.

Since Hastings' accident is still under investigation they aren't releasing the car. And they certainly aren't going to give it to some media organization or group of strangers just because they want to see it. That doesn't ever happen in any accident. Hasn't anyone ever watched Law and Order (or any crime show) and heard about chain of custody? That's like the first rule in any investigation, you don't let anything that might be evidence of or in a crime out of police custody and you don't let anyone not DIRECTLY involved in the investigation near any potential evidence.

[It quickly surfaced that Hastings reached out to Wikileaks attorney Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before his death claiming the FBI was investigating him]

What quickly surfaced was wikileaks making a statement that he had SUPPOSEDLY contacted them about the FBI investigating Hastings. Anyone can make a statement that doesn't make it true. we're supposed to believe Hastings didn't tell anyone else about this, but he told wikileaks? Sure

[quote] Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot

I beg to differ. Check the link

by Anonymousreply 4707/11/2013

Thank you, R47, these loonies infesting the DL are so tiresome. My guess is that they've been thrown off of the conspiracy sites for bitch-fighting and stupidity. They seem to think they can take over the DL.

They're in for a surprise.

Anyway, your response was nicely done.

And to you, Loonies, hundreds of people who are perfectly sober die in car accidents every single day. I don't know if this guy had a drinking relapse but it is not required to have a car accident.

by Anonymousreply 4807/11/2013

Bitch-fighting on DL? Never!!

by Anonymousreply 4907/11/2013

R50, please refer to Internets rule #37c.

[quote]#37c. Nutters always accuse opponents of Nazism when they lose an argument

It comes right after rule #37b1

[quote]rule #37b1 Morons always draw upon Rosa Parks to bolster socially unacceptable behavior.

by Anonymousreply 5107/12/2013

[quote]In every single high speed accident involving a vehicle hiting a stationary object, witnesses ALWAYS say it sounded like an explosion. When a car hits a house, everyone on the block says it sounded like an explosion. The same thing happens when a car hits a big fence

I heard a horrible car wreck one night (two dead, one permanently injured). It sounded like a dull thud.

The only reason I knew it was a wreck is that I heard both cars and after the thud there was total silence.

I think what is most pertinent about the witness' statement is that the two explosions occurred before the car crash.

by Anonymousreply 5207/12/2013

Idiots. Everybody knows it was the [bold]SHARKNADO[/bold] that killed Hastings.

And the Batshit Libertarian Idiot Troll(TM) is totally, completely off his meds.

by Anonymousreply 5307/12/2013

[quote]The only reason I knew it was a wreck is that I heard both cars and after the thud there was total silence.

That would be two moving vehicles, r52. The person you quoted was discussing one moving object and one stationary object. Thus, your example is not apt.

Have you, by chance, heard a moving vehicle hit a stationary object at high speed?

by Anonymousreply 5407/12/2013

No moron OP/r2, that IB Times article is actually reporting on the moronic online conspiracy theories about Hasting's death and evidently thinks the individuals pushing those theories are a bunch of crazies. This is a perfect example of how you lunatics are unable to comprehend what you read and the information presented to you, and all you do is pick up on a few buzz words, ignore the context and everything else, twist and distort facts and then present your crap conclusions as the "truth" that must be the truth because, in your tortured minds, someone's trying to "hide" it from us. When the real truth is, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

by Anonymousreply 5707/16/2013

Well, I hope you get killed by a government-generated [bold]SHARKNADO[/bold], R55. So there!

by Anonymousreply 5807/16/2013

If his body was burned beyond recognition, how are they sure it was him? What happens if he orchestrated his own apparent death and that was really someone else in the car?

by Anonymousreply 5907/16/2013

I dunno, R47, the pictures in your link look much tamer than the Hastings crash.

by Anonymousreply 6007/16/2013

R57-

Please type in English.

Coherent sentences are your friend.

by Anonymousreply 6107/16/2013

R60-

I dare any of the government true believers to find a photo of a similar accident where this kind of fire happened. Mercedes has vehemently rejected that this kind of fire is possible with their cars.

by Anonymousreply 6207/16/2013

Thanks for proving my point about your crappy comprehension skills, r61.

by Anonymousreply 6307/17/2013

R63-

If you spoke English it would help.

by Anonymousreply 6407/17/2013

The Political Blind Spot reports:

Mercedes Benz debunks the theory that the car of Wikileaking journalist Michael Hastings “just blew up” upon impact. Journalists have consulted leading University Physics professors in the Los Angeles area, who all agreed that the placement of the engine defied expectations of a normal crash scenario.

Police and reporters on the scene confirm there were NO skid marks, both explaining the videos of the speeding car....

by Anonymousreply 6507/17/2013

The fact that they cremated his body without consent of his wife and family, and won't release toxicology results to anyone, and have threatened mainstream, local affiliate reporters to stop investigating...nah, it was an accident.

by Anonymousreply 6607/17/2013

I'm SHOCKED that this board isn't more interested in this.

If Bush was still president then it would be front page.

by Anonymousreply 6707/19/2013

Mike Elk a journalist from achicago stated that Hastings was drinking with him in the months preceding the crash. He had relapsed. He was drunk and probably high. He crashed. The end.

by Anonymousreply 6807/19/2013

R68-

Where is the toxicology report?

Oh, wait, they cremated him without consent from his family, so it doesn't exist.

That's convenient.

by Anonymousreply 6907/19/2013

The family hasn't confirmed any of that R69. Amazing that the same folks who would call Fox news propaganda embrace InfoWars.

by Anonymousreply 7007/19/2013

[quote]I'm SHOCKED that this board isn't more interested in this.

I'm confused. I thought that we're all socialist Stasi Nazi fascists who suck on the government teat.

So perhaps that's why we're not interested, you moron. Or, perhaps there's just no evidence there outside of schizo newsites like Infowars.

by Anonymousreply 7107/19/2013

R71, you are willfully blind and that is all there is to it.

You attack the source as a way of dismissing the evidence that does not support your smug complacency.

by Anonymousreply 7207/19/2013

I will when you stop denying the Holocaust, R73.

by Anonymousreply 7407/19/2013

R71-

Even nazi cocksucking whores want to know if the government is murdering journalists.

by Anonymousreply 7507/19/2013

Calling Mike Elk a journalist is like calling me one because I wrote for a high school paper.

by Anonymousreply 7607/20/2013

R74: by "Holocaust" do you mean the mass murder of millions of Jews by Nazi Germany? Or are you using the Libertarian definition of "shit Libertarians don't like"?

by Anonymousreply 7707/20/2013

R76-

Journalism is an action, not a profession.

If I see cops beating a homeless man and record it, I am a "journalist".

by Anonymousreply 7807/20/2013

More info at link

by Anonymousreply 7907/22/2013

Do libertarians do ANYTHING besides call those that disagree with them Nazis?

by Anonymousreply 8007/23/2013

R80-

If the fuck-me-pumps fit...

by Anonymousreply 8107/23/2013

But seriously, R80-

Don't you find it strange that an investigative reporter who brought down a 4 star USGeneral died under mysterious circumstances and the reporters investigating his death have been threatened?

Are you that blind? Or would the truth just be too much for you to handle?

by Anonymousreply 8207/23/2013

I would think the fact that the engine and drive train were found 50 feet away from the wreck would be enough proof something was up.

I live in LA and have for 25 years. Seen all kinds of wrecks. Cars into light posts, multiple freeway wrecks, car that jumped the median on the freeway and flipped etc. Never has the engine been catapulted out of the car.

by Anonymousreply 8307/23/2013

R83-

That's the worst part- our "media" isn't even trying to investigate.

by Anonymousreply 8407/24/2013

Justice for Michael Hastings!

by Anonymousreply 8507/25/2013

R85-

It'll never happen. The media sucks up to the government too much to investigate anything like this.

If you sent them video evidence of McChrystal murdering Hastings they would ignore it.

The only reason Matt Drudge has a website is due to the media covering up shit.

by Anonymousreply 8607/25/2013

San Diego journalist Kimberly Dvorak is one of the few (only?) reporters covering this story.

by Anonymousreply 8707/25/2013

I wonder if there is a connection to the two lady hikers in Maine.

by Anonymousreply 8807/25/2013

I'm no fan of conspiracy theories but this is a very suspicious case.

Haven't you got better things to do with your time than sit at your telescreen and "culture jam", Winston Smith @ R89?

by Anonymousreply 9007/25/2013

R90-

People like R89 still believe the "official government story" on My Lai, JFK and MLK.

No matter how many scholarly articles and books prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the "official" story is false, they still cling to their belief in omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent government.

The murder of Hastings is no different.

by Anonymousreply 9107/25/2013

R68=paid Pentagon flunky. I swear 80% of the people at the Pentagon don't have real jobs.

by Anonymousreply 9207/26/2013

R89 is an obvious sockpuppet too.

by Anonymousreply 9307/26/2013

[quote]People like [R89] still believe the "official government story" on My Lai, JFK and MLK.

Or they realize that you're clinically insane.

Six of one, 1/2 dozen of another.

by Anonymousreply 9407/26/2013

It is nice when White people question the official story on things. If you had done it more often in the past my life might have been a great deal easier.

by Anonymousreply 9507/26/2013

It's be nice if our "chess playing" president would do something about this, but he won't.

by Anonymousreply 9607/27/2013

R95: I like you.

by Anonymousreply 9707/27/2013

A video of the murder

by Anonymousreply 9807/28/2013

Put the death of Barnaby Jack right next to that of the mysterious death of Michael Hastings. Both of them, in different ways, circled the world of US government advanced surveillance (and perhaps more). They have both died very young.

AP reports: A prominent hacker who discovered a way to have ATMs spit out cash and was set to deliver a talk about hacking pacemakers and other wireless implantable medical devices has died in San Francisco, authorities and his employer said.

Barnaby Jack died at his home in San Francisco Thursday, although the cause of death is still under investigation, San Francisco Deputy Coroner Kris Barbrich said.[...] Jennifer Steffens, the CEO of computer security firm IOActive, Inc., where Jack worked, called Jack one of the most accomplished security researchers.

by Anonymousreply 9907/28/2013

Our government is evil and out of control.

by Anonymousreply 10007/29/2013

So you've said, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....

by Anonymousreply 10107/29/2013

R101-

When you will admit that the official story of the murder of JFK and the Warren Commission Report are total bullshit, I will debate you.

People like you, that think our government is benign and benevolent, when reality shows it is malignant and evil...well, I feel sorry for you and your ilk.

by Anonymousreply 10207/29/2013

I've been looking in vain for even one single post where I've written anything even remotely resembling a comment that "our government is benign and benevolent." Perhaps you can point me to that post.

You can't, of course, because I never said anything like that. As I've said before, these conversations will go ever so much better when you stop listening to the voices in your head and start paying attention to what I really do write.

by Anonymousreply 10307/29/2013

I'll have the spam spam spam baked beans fascism spam on toast, please.

by Anonymousreply 10407/29/2013

The San Francisco medical examiner's office has said it could be several months before the cause of death for acclaimed hacker Barnaby Jack is released.

Jack, who was born in New Zealand, was famous for hacking implanted medical devices and ATMs. He was found dead in San Francisco on 25 July.

A San Francisco police department spokesperson told the Guardian Jack was found dead by "a loved one" in an apartment in the city's Nob Hill neighborhood and that no foul play was suspected.

Jack lived in San Francisco, where he worked as the director of embedded security research at security firm IOActive. The company said Jack was survived by his mother and sister in New Zealand and his girlfriend in California.

"This is an extremely sad time for us all at IOActive, and the many people in our industry that Barnaby touched in so many ways with both his work and vibrant personality," IOActive CEO Jennifer Steffens said in a statement. "But as a personal friend of Barnaby's for many years I know he'd want sadness to quickly turn to celebration of his life, work and the tremendous contributions he's made spanning well beyond his widely acclaimed professional accomplishments."

She said the company will continue working with the industry to "ensure the advancements Barnaby started in this field will continue saving lives for years to come".

Jack became well-known in 2010 after hacking an ATM so it would spit out money at the Black Hat hacking convention in Las Vegas. He received further acclaim last year by showing how an insulin pump is vulnerable to a hack that would allow a hacker to dispense a fatal dosage of insulin from 300ft away.

He was due to present his latest research on hacking implanted medical devices at this year's Black Hat convention on Thursday. Jack was set to show how he could hack into pacemakers and implanted defibrillators from 30ft away. That slot is now being used as a time to commemorate his life and work.

"Barnaby Jack meant so much to so many people, and we hope this forum will offer an opportunity for us all to recognize the legacy that he leaves behind," said Black Hat in a statement.

During presentations on implanted medical device hacks, Jack obscured some details to prevent people from replicating the attacks. His work also moved several companies to examine the security of their devices.

A fund created in his honor has collected nearly $11,000 and the donations will be used according to the wishes of his family.

San Francisco police said that it responded to a deceased person call at 7.41pm on 25 July. The police did not suspect foul play, so the case was handed over to the city's medical examiners office.

by Anonymousreply 10507/29/2013

So, a guy who has demonstrated how you can hack ATMs, pacemakers and control cars by remote, dies at 35 of no ascertainable cause right before he is to present another public display of how the government (oh, wait, anyone) can hack many devices, just a month after a young man who exposed government abuse and evils died in a mysterious car crash...

Nothing to see here, move along...

by Anonymousreply 10607/29/2013

Spamming again, I see.

by Anonymousreply 10707/29/2013

R107-

Why do you hate freedom?

Are you scared people might start to recognize how libertarian political views and Austrian economics are superior to communistic (il)liberalism (aka fascism) and that you would lose the argument?

Personal economic freedom is the basis of a healthy society and the fact that you hate it makes me sad.

by Anonymousreply 10807/29/2013

[quote]Why do you hate freedom?

LOL.... Why are you incapable of reading what I actually write? Go ahead: show me a single post of mine that shows how I "hate freedom."

[quote]Are you scared people might start to recognize how libertarian political views and Austrian economics are superior to communistic (il)liberalism (aka fascism) and that you would lose the argument?

ROFL... Moron, if that were the case, why is it that I routinely hand your ass to you on these threads? Why none of your predictions has ever come true and all of mine have? Why you haven't been able to find a single inaccurate statement of mine? So much for your "superiority."

[quote]Personal economic freedom is the basis of a healthy society and the fact that you hate it makes me sad.

ROFL... Whereas, I find you funny as hell, particularly as you just make shit up when you can't answer my posts.

by Anonymousreply 10907/29/2013

Nobody?

by Anonymousreply 11007/30/2013

The government kills anyone, anywhere and at any time, so this isn't shocking.

by Anonymousreply 11108/24/2013

It would be the CIA thing to do!

He humiliated one of their leaders- killing him was just government justice.

by Anonymousreply 11206/27/2014

Part of the problem here is the political polarization of argument.

That, and no one reads history anymore. Daniel Elsberg is proof of what the government can and will do to dissenters.

His case has been written about by reputable journalists and academics, not extremist blogging loons.

I'm not saying Hastings or Jack was assassinated, but people who call reasonable posters insane for suggesting the possibility don't know their history.

by Anonymousreply 11306/27/2014

Add to Hastings and Jack that kid who committed suicide after the feds in Boston went after him for hacking MIT's server and "freeing" all those academic journals.

by Anonymousreply 11406/29/2014

Michael Hastings wife, Elise Jordan said, on one of the MSNBC shows (I believe ALL IN WITH CHRIS HAYES) while promoting his last book, that she thought he might have been murdered and had it investigated. After the investigation she said she was 100% sure it was an accident. Good enough for her then it is good enough for me.

by Anonymousreply 11506/29/2014

[quote]Add to Hastings and Jack that kid who committed suicide after the feds in Boston went after him for hacking MIT's server and "freeing" all those academic journals.

That was hacktivist Aaron Swartz.

by Anonymousreply 11606/29/2014

Not good enough for me. Too many coincidences. Too much fear.

by Anonymousreply 11707/01/2014

[quote]After the investigation she said she was 100% sure it was an accident. Good enough for her then it is good enough for me.

You don't suppose she is trying to protect herself by playing along with the official story, do you?

Did she really use the phrase "100% sure"? That kind of overstatement can be a sign that someone is lying. OJ Simpson, for example, didn't merely plead not guilty, he pleaded "100% not guilty."

by Anonymousreply 11807/02/2014

R118-

Terrorist. Terrorist haterapist!!!

How DARE you question our divine and pure government!

by Anonymousreply 11907/06/2014

R101-

Still waiting for a reply.

You've had ten months to formulate a response, defending your bullshit, but you refuse. Are you scared?

I promise not to utterly humiliate you. I will allow you to change your mind, accept that you were wrong, and be magnanimous in accepting your apology.

But, the first step is admitting you were wrong.

by Anonymousreply 12007/06/2014

R119/R120 is one of those nuts who shouts at an old post as if the long-gone poster's consciousness somehow lingers in the words in the e-verse.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Where the clock always is striking thirteen.

by Anonymousreply 12107/06/2014

Would anyone be surprised if the government admitted to murdering him in cold blood?

by Anonymousreply 12207/09/2014

This sort of thing NEVER happens

by Anonymousreply 12307/09/2014

And yet R121 replies, once again, without any attempt at providing facts.

by Anonymousreply 12407/10/2014

Poor Libertarian Idiot. Nobody wants to join his extra-special debate club.

You want a substantive response? Here ya go, ya pathetic twat. (0:53 in)

by Anonymousreply 12507/10/2014

Most of the time when these threads disappear from my watcher, I just say "ehh, just the way it is" and move on.

I wonder why THIS one was removed.

by Anonymousreply 13607/10/2014

I hope that spam person is gone

by Anonymousreply 13707/11/2014
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