Been watching Garbo, Crawford, Shearer, etc. in all their films, and realize Adrian was an amazing designer. He, & Janet Gaynor, bearded in a marriage for years. But his dresses, for the real screen queens, were sublime.
ADRIAN / MGM costume designer extrodinare - the man was brilliant !
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 46||06/24/2013|
Think he beat Head by a mile. She frequently took credit, for outfits other's designed ( like Audrey Hepburn, in "Sabrina" - all done by Givenchy, but Head got screen credit). He made everyone look good.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 1||06/22/2013|
He was the one who designed and made, Dorothy's ruby red 'slippers' - which were really pumps.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 2||06/22/2013|
Adrian, and Janet Gaynor were called a lavender couple. Actor Bob Cummings once said ' Janet Gaynor's husband was Adrian, but her wife was Mary Martin'.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 3||06/22/2013|
Hepburn (Katherine) , never looked better than in "Philadelphia Story". Adrian glammed her up, which she needed.......badly
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 4||06/22/2013|
I'm too confused by all of OP's commas.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 5||06/22/2013|
Adrian's costumes are too fussy!
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 6||06/22/2013|
I agree, Adrian Goldberg was extremely talented.
The Costume Institute at the Metropolitan Museum mounted a stunning exhibition of his work several years ago.
One of the most surprising things I learned at that show was that there were restrictions on fabric during the war, which were specified in allowable widths collars and lapels, and the number of pocket flaps.
Adrian was a master of making elegant, dazzling costumes with a minimum of froufrou.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 7||06/22/2013|
R 7 - That's not what R 6 thinks. Frou frou = fussy. But I agree with you. R 6 is obviously someone who doesn't really know his work well.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 8||06/22/2013|
R8 meant to write:
R7 - That's not what R6 thinks. Frou frou = fussy. But I agree with you. R6 is obviously someone who doesn't really know his work well.
R8 doesn't know how to post a proper link.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 9||06/22/2013|
OK Mr. Webby - I already know you hate me from way back, but don't start this shit again !
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 10||06/22/2013|
He created Joan Crawford's padded shoulders to accentuate her already broad shoulders. THAT look, the padded shouldered suit, was one of his most iconic and enduring contributions to fashion. It has endured to this day, making a major resurgence in the 1980's.
He created Crawford's Letty Lynton dress which became a sensation in 1932, becoming a template for the silhouette of women's gowns until the late 1930's. This dress design helped ushered in a move away from the flat chested dropped waist 20's flapper styles.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 11||06/22/2013|
I do know Adrian's work very well. As a lover of old movies, I have watched many films where Adrian did the costumes.
He just does not compare to Edith. Edith's outfit continues to look modern today.
Adrian's costumes were fussy and they look very period.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 12||06/22/2013|
R 12 - ok pardon me , who do you like better between Orry-Kelly and Travis Banton ?
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 13||06/22/2013|
Crawford's huge shoulders were to draw focus away from her wide hips.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 14||06/22/2013|
Is there a biography on Adrian? I tried to find one and I was stunned that there is nothing but just coffee table books on his clothes. He seems like he would be very interesting to read about.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 15||06/22/2013|
Always heard that Barbara Stanwyck, whom I love, had what Edith Head called a 'low slung derriere' - that's why she always designed outfits to de-emphasize it, including higher waist dresses, or pieces that would flow down over it, and cover it subtly, and building up the shoulder area, with busy prints, or ruffling, to take the eye away from the ass.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 16||06/22/2013|
How would Adrian have costumed Bette "Tits down to her waistline" Davis? I employed a complex system of straps and pulleys, myself.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 17||06/22/2013|
Adrian also did all the dresses for "The Women " , the all time gay loving bitch-fest. Not only did he dress all the stars, in many outfits for each , he also did all the outfits for the 10-minute (in color) fashion show - at the time, the epitome of chic, and glamour.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 18||06/23/2013|
I love Adrian and MARIE ANTOINETTE is breathtaking but my favorite is Travis Banton, especially his Dietrich stuff. It's still so modern.
Anything from the pre-Code with those flimsy evening gowns. Some of the women in those dresses may as well have been naked.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 19||06/23/2013|
Did Adrian and George Cukor ever fuck?
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 20||06/23/2013|
r 20 Oh no, I liked em young, and hung. And gentile.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 21||06/23/2013|
I saw a design of his on a mannequin at the Museum of Modern Art in NYC. My jaw dropped open. It was a simple grey dress. The composition and tailoring made it a piece of art, no doubt. that remarkable.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 22||06/23/2013|
Garbo would not have been GARBO , without him. He left MGM, when she left, saying ' When Garbo goes, the glamour goes.......and so do I'. He left, and opened his own atelier, dressing the wealthiest women in Hollywood, including many of the same stars he had dressed, while under contract at Metro.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 23||06/23/2013|
Adrian's designs for a Garbo film, Unconquered, I think it's called, included a little slouched and tilted brim hat that created a vogue that set the template for ladies hats throughout the 1930s and spelled the death of the 1920s cloche.
But frankly, Travis Banton at Paramount was more talented. Just compare Dietrich, Lombard and Mae West's film wardrobes n the 1930s to those worn by MGM's Shearer, Crawford and Garbo.
Edith Head (who replaced Banton at Paramount) wasn't even in the running. She just outlived them all.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 24||06/23/2013|
R 24 - your last line is so true. Head became the most well known, as a personalty, making tons of appearances on TV, in the 50's thru 70's, but she was not the best at what she did.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 25||06/23/2013|
Was Walter Plunkett good at contemporary clothes too, or was his brilliance just in period costumes? Obviously his designs for GONE WITH THE WIND were superb.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 26||06/23/2013|
But r23, when Garbo left MGM she said to a shocked Adrian, "You know, I never really liked any of those clothes you dressed me in."
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 27||06/23/2013|
By the 1940s most of the major studios had replaced their famous resident male costume designers with women.
Adrian (MGM), Orry-Kelly (Warner Bros.),and particularly Travis Banton (Paramount) were all considered to wield too much power with their female stars and too often went over budget. Female designers like Edith Head, Helen Rose and Irene were more practical and loyal to their bosses, even if their designs were more mundane (which in the war-torn 1940s wasn't the greatest sin).
Jean Louis at Columbia was one of the few men to survive and continued working well into the 1960s.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 28||06/23/2013|
Jean Louis was all man and I was the dame to prove it!
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 29||06/23/2013|
What was the deal with Jean Louis ? Never heard anything, one way or the other. Just know he married Young when he was what , 80 something.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 30||06/23/2013|
Jean Louis is another designer ,which there is no biography. Again, only coffee table books on his clothes. Why are there any written biographies on these male designers?
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 31||06/23/2013|
Travis Banton actually collaborated with Marlene Dietrich on all her 30s Paramount films. It was more of a 50/50 partnership. Dietrich's daughter went into great detail about their creative process in her book.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 32||06/23/2013|
R20 From the gossip I have read Adrian was banging Elizabeth Taylor's father.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 33||06/23/2013|
Huh, what ? Liz Taylor's dad ? That's juicy. Did Liz know ? More please !
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 34||06/23/2013|
I don't believe that The Taylors arrived in the US until the early 1940s, at which time Adrian had left MGM.
Not that that means anything. But they certainly didn't meet at the Metro commissary.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 35||06/24/2013|
There is an wonderful interview book featuring many of the biggest stars, directors, and backstage employees during the golden years of the Hollywood era by John Kobal (of the famous Kobal photo archive) called "People Will Talk". Among the interviews with people like Louise Brooks, Stanwyck, Crawford, and Hepburn there is a wonderful piece with Jean Louis. It's pretty dishy and he loved being a little bit naughty about the stars' egos and figure problems. Lots in this interview about Rita Hayworth.
I also remember some other really hilarious interviews in this book with Jack Cole, the dance director, and John Engstead, the still glamour photographer.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 36||06/24/2013|
Great book, R36. Some really interesting stories. I loved the Jack Cole interview and the Vincent Sherman one is good too.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 37||06/24/2013|
37 comments in and not ONE pic...you bitches are slipping.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 38||06/24/2013|
"when Garbo left MGM she said to a shocked Adrian, "You know, I never really liked any of those clothes you dressed me in."
Yes, she said that. But that was Garbo. She had no interest in clothes whatsoever. In her private life all she wore were slacks and nondescript sweaters. She NEVER wore dresses. She also never wore jewelry and almost no makeup. But she had that FACE and that was enough.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 39||06/24/2013|
Adrian was kinda cute. I bet he had a nice butt...the Jewish men I've been with all have great asses.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 40||06/24/2013|
Oops..forgot to post the image.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 41||06/24/2013|
[quote]I also remember some other really hilarious interviews in this book with Jack Cole, the dance director, and John Engstead, the still glamour photographer.
The Jack Cole interview is one of the best in that book. Surprisingly, my other favorites are the Loretta Young and the Joel McCrea interviews. The Hepburn interview is good, but the Stanwyck and Crawford interviews are a little flat.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 42||06/24/2013|
The Joan Fontaine interview makes me laugh, mainly because of Kobal's speculation that she has a buzzer timed to ring anytime mention of her sister Olivia deHavilland is made and thus, end the interview.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 43||06/24/2013|
The photo of Adrian is indeed delightfully snazzy but that key light is doing more work than Dietrich's, Shearer's and Crawford's combined!
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 44||06/24/2013|
That picture of Harlow at R38 is sensational. She must have been 24 or 25 at the time. Imagine a young starlet today being photographed with that sort of romanticism and sophistication.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 45||06/24/2013|
Adrian clothing in the Met's collection.
|by Edith Head Jr.||reply 46||06/24/2013|