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Fox finger-pointer to woman: 'know your role'

NEW YORK - A finger-pointing political argument on Fox News Channel boiled over when a male conservative talk show host shouted at a woman to "know your role and shut your mouth."

The man, Bill Cunningham, later asked Fox contributor Tamara Holder, "Are you going to cry?"

Fox on-air personalities on Friday were talking about the exchange on Sean Hannity's prime-time show the night before. Commentator Juan Williams concluded that Cunningham "obliterated the line" of civil discourse in his argument with Holder. The two had been brought on by Hannity to discuss whether Attorney General Eric Holder , no relation to Tamara , had committed perjury.

Cunningham, sitting next to Tamara Holder in a New York studio, called her "one of the stooges of the left that will always be there to excuse away criminal behavior." He said she had the "incurable fatal condition of liberalism that caused people like Eric Holder to be the consulary of Barack Hussein Obama."

He was jabbing a finger at Holder, who returned the favor.

"I really hope that when you speak to a judge, you don't point your finger in the person's face the entire time," she said. "Your finger does not make your point."

Cunningham is a former assistant attorney general in Ohio whose wife is on the Ohio Court of Appeals. He hosts radio and television talk shows.

"Whose finger is in my face right now?" Cunningham asked.

Replied Holder: "Mine, because I'm telling you to shut up."

"You shut up!" Cunningham said. "Know your role and shut your mouth."

Cunningham could not be reached for comment Friday.

It was only three weeks after another exchange on Fox, where daytime host Megyn Kelly said she was offended by a male colleague's suggestion that children of working mothers don't fare as well as children with stay-at-home moms. One Fox contributor, Erick Erickson, said that in nature, males were traditionally dominant.

Later, Cunningham repeated his assertion that Holder was a "liberal stooge and an excuse-monger for the Obama administration."

After Holder paused, Cunningham asked, "What, are you going to cry?"

"No, I'm not going to cry," Holder said.

Admonished by Hannity at the end of their segment to shake hands, they refused. "I don't shake hands with trolls," Holder said.

Things were still smoldering on Friday when Fox returned to the argument. Daytime host Martha McCollum hosted a segment with Williams and Fox contributor Mary Katherine Ham on whether the combatants had gone too far.

"The merits of the argument might be on the Cunningham side," Ham said, "but I'm on Team Tamara on the comment of knowing your role."

by Anonymousreply 2406/23/2013

Insecure, supposedly straight men, need to know that this makes them look like pussies. Big, faggoty pussies.

by Anonymousreply 106/22/2013

Republican business as usual.

by Anonymousreply 206/22/2013

Most Faux viewers are big fat men who only want wives to bring them Cheetos and beer.

by Anonymousreply 306/22/2013

I thought it said "hole."

by Anonymousreply 406/22/2013

Straight men are the biggest babies on Earth. They will always throw a temper tantrum when their perceived "natural order of things" is thrown back in their faces. Fuck 'em!

by Anonymousreply 506/22/2013



by Anonymousreply 606/22/2013

R6, this guy would use faggot in a minute so it's good to remind him what he looks like.

by Anonymousreply 706/22/2013

What a bunch of dinosaurs, but when you're network only appeals to oldsters, what can you expect?

[quote]Senior citizens are powering Fox. The network has the oldest audience on all of television. The average age of a Fox News viewer is 66 years old and the decline in younger viewership is the biggest long term threat to the network’s survival.

by Anonymousreply 806/22/2013

[quote]"but I'm on Team Tamara

What incisive and valuable commentary from a Fox "news person."

by Anonymousreply 906/22/2013

* your network

by Anonymousreply 1006/22/2013

Hannity should have stopped him - but of course, he says "let's shake hands" as if they were both in the wrong. Fucking asshole.

How the fuck does Hannity have a show? He has no formal education besides a HS diploma and no experience except being on radio.

He's just a fucked up Catholic.

by Anonymousreply 1106/22/2013

[quote] Most Faux viewers are big fat men who only want wives to bring them Cheetos and beer

My aunt's husband is a Fox fanatic. She cannot stay away from the house for an entire day because she needs to make and serve him breakfast, lunch and dinner. She is not even allowed to make a sandwich and put it in the refrigerator for him to take out and consume. No. It must be freshly made by and served by her.

She has 9 kids who adore her. She was never home when they were kids. When the youngest turned 17 she married her current husband, who promptly kicked the youngest kid out of the house. My aunt told the youngest to go live with one of his brothers. Then she and her husband moved 500 miles away into a hunting shack with no central heat. It amazes me how much she neglected her kids and how slavishly devoted they are to her.

by Anonymousreply 1206/22/2013

R11, I hate to tell you all this, but this is all scripted. Fox knows exactly what it is doing. The comment hit home with a good portion of the Fox viewers. Fox doesn't have to take a position, after all their motto is "you decide". And, they are getting press. It is a win, win, win situation for Fox.

by Anonymousreply 1306/22/2013

Cunningham has one of those shows that do lie detector tests for cheating and paternity tests on low rent people.

Sleazy and cheesy version of Maury Povich. He's a real slime ball. A real turd.

by Anonymousreply 1406/22/2013

On Fox, "know your role" is just a reminder about whose playing which archetype in the performance art piece they call the news.

by Anonymousreply 1506/22/2013

Once the paranoid seniors die off, who will Fox target next? Middle-aged white guys being encroached while performing auto-fellatio? (I know they're already in the cross-hairs, but FOX might offer enticements.)

by Anonymousreply 1606/23/2013

I like you, R9.

by Anonymousreply 1706/23/2013

Tamara Holder was a mistress of Jesse Jackson

by Anonymousreply 1806/23/2013

something is wrong with my google. No porn at all comes up when I search ... the usual key words... or even studio names. Nothing at all. It is like someone completely blockeed all porn on the net. anyone else notice this?

by Anonymousreply 1906/23/2013

I'm simply amazed that despite its antics and antagonistic style, Fox News is the highest rated cable "news" network.

by Anonymousreply 2006/23/2013

[quote]Fox News is the highest rated cable "news" network.

Thats like saying you're the most popular Elvis impersonator in Bangor. Cable news is a very small game. The networks' evening news shows get many many times more viewers. Also, as pointed out, Fox viewers are old and in a demographic which brings in no big revenue ad sales. While most networks have ads for luxury cars and high ticket electronics, Fox has to make do with ads for diabetes testing kits and cheap short term life insurance.

by Anonymousreply 2106/23/2013

The Fox website has significantly lower hits than other news websites. It's mostly older people who watch Fox.

by Anonymousreply 2206/23/2013

R22 I havent looked in a while but for a long time, there were no third party ads run on the Fox News website. The traffic is so miniscule, they cant even sell ads there. Not a good thing when you consider more people get their news from an on-line source than anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 2306/23/2013

r22 Good point.

by Anonymousreply 2406/23/2013
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