The American Baking Competition
Is anyone watching this? It's on CBS; Jeff Foxworthy is the host. He's actually pretty good. The two judges are Paul Hollywood (a Brit) and Marcela Valladolid, from Food Network. While the show itself is much better than the usual cooking competition shows (mostly because of the lack of artificial drama among the contestants) there's apparently some juicy behind-the-scenes stuff going on, because Paul H. dumped his wife to fool around with Marcela.
So far there's only one douchey contestant (Brian) and there's a bit of eye candy. But no one appears to be openly gay-- unusual for a cooking competition.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||10/11/2014|
It seems so low budget...where is it being filmed?
They were cooking with a rainstorm happening...too funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/18/2013|
Who are Paul H. and Marcela and why are they interesting?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/18/2013|
Apparently it's somewhere in Georgia, because there's one of those Georgia logos at the end (which also means they're getting a big tax credit, no doubt.) I think the rainy weather is gonna wreak havoc on tomorrow night's bread baking episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/18/2013|
Paul is apparently some baking maven from the UK; Marcela has a Mexican cooking show ("Mexican Made Easy") on the Food Network.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/18/2013|
Is this the US version of the Great British Bake-Off? Two of the three finalists in this years final were gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/18/2013|
I saw an episode with the pies.
It's head and shoulders above the FN stuff since you can tell None of the bakers are ready for prime time.
Which adds to their charm.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/18/2013|
R5 Yes, I think so. They can't use the word "Bake-Off" here because Pillsbury owns it. Wasn't Paul H. on the British version as well?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/18/2013|
I thought it was interesting that the first challenge on the first episode was baking an "All-American" pie-- and the judges are a Brit and a Mexican.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/18/2013|
She's so cute. And the stuff she cooks looks really good, I enjoy her show on Food Network (or Cooking Channel?). She deserves a wider audience, glad to hear that she's getting more work.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/18/2013|
Thank you, R4, I appreciate the info.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/18/2013|
He is, R7. He fattened up just before the last series. He has become something of a housewives' favourite and has just split with his own wife. As far as cooking competitions go, this is one of the most enjoyable. Probably because baking is one area of cooking that Britons don't totally suck at.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/18/2013|
I've been watching. What I've enjoyed most is the lack of scripted drama. We've been given very little background info on the contestants so it's about the baking and is not a personality contest.
The latest contestant to be sent home seemed like a nice guy. He is a firefighter who cooks at the firehouse and was taught to bake by his mother, and that's about all we knew about him. He had problems with time management that caused some failures on his part.
One of the most difficult components is when the contestants are handed a recipe title and list of ingredients with no directions.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/18/2013|
I watch it and enjoy it.
I like to watch things I have no preyer of ever being able to compete on. I can't cook anything without a recipe and these cooks just pull things off on the fly.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/18/2013|
I love large, in charge unapologetic Francine - yes it has butter. I don't make nothing low cal.
What about the "straight" wrapped too tight Dan/ Dave? I can't remember. Who does this Mary think she's kidding?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/19/2013|
I'm enjoying it. It's really about baking, and it feels very minimally produced, no stirring up artificial drama or anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/19/2013|
R14 Do you mean crutch-boy Brian?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/19/2013|
Yes - Brian. Totally forget his name.....
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/19/2013|
I'm surprised Brian is still around. It's kind of fun to watch fire fly out of his eyes when he doesn't like what the judges say.
I thought he would stroke out when Marcela despised his very special truffle cake that he's been making for years and Paul H gave him hell for picking nonedible pansies and decorating the cake with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/19/2013|
Who is the contestant with the beard? Looks like Husbear material.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/19/2013|
Francine needs her own show. Her trailer trash extravaganzas are fun, especially when they freak out the judges.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/19/2013|
This is The Great British Bake-Off re-formatted for the US; the format has been a huge success all around the world. Paul Hollywood was one of the original judges along with Mary Berry, a sort of real-life Betty Crocker who has now found fame on television at retirement age. She's quite charming, encouraging but firm in her judgements.
The 1st ever winner was a gay man named Edd Kimber - "The Boy Who Bakes." One of the original presenters is Sue Perkins, an out lesbian comedian/presenter. Gay people are at least very well represents in British culture.
It's nice to hear that CBS has made an effort to establish the charm of the original. I thought they'd go all Dancing With The Stars vulgar on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/19/2013|
I never watch cooking shows, but for some reason this intrigues me. Probably because it sounds unstagey and forced with normal people doing something they love. I'll have to start watching the old eps. on the website.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/19/2013|
So glad that awful Kolette with her ever-glittery eyelids and polka-dotted hair bow went home. She was working my last nerve.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/19/2013|
I want to twist that horrid Marcellas head around in a 180 crack her back in half so the last thing she smells is her own asshole. Because that's the only way that look on her face will be justified.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/19/2013|
I've only seen one episode. That was the one which aired 06.12.2013. I like the woman who came in first place that night. She made a cake with some strawberry mousse in the center. Valentine theme.
[bold]I ask anyone to answer: [italic]Who among the contestants has the best talents and skills?[/italic][/bold]
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/20/2013|
R25 Before tonight I would've said it was between Francine and Elaine, but Darlene came into her own on this week's episode (bread.)
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/20/2013|
[quote]Who is the contestant with the beard? Looks like Husbear material.
That's James. I can't decide if he pings or not. He's definitely overcompensating by constantly reminding us he uses his baking skills to impress women.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/20/2013|
[quote]I want to twist that horrid Marcellas head around in a 180 crack her back in half so the last thing she smells is her own asshole. Because that's the only way that look on her face will be justified.
You sound like a psychopath.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/20/2013|
[quote] Francine needs her own show. Her trailer trash extravaganzas are fun, especially when they freak out the judges.
I agree. Even more after seeing her fishin' with her kin. Don't know if those two were her daughters, but they make Francine look like Karen Carpenter.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/20/2013|
It's a lovely show but it doesn't work the same way as "Great British Bake Off"
While you have an idyllic title sequence, very styled through to suit the not-so-young-anymore TV viewers (see link) in the British original, the American show starts with a rock song about fire and it's harsher filmed (if you compare the two, you know what I mean).
Plus in the British original you have two comedians who play off each other wonderfully and are instantly likeable, unlike the American version were a guy who looks like a ranger wants to make you believe he is interested in baking.
And the charm and expertise of Mary Berry, like R21 wrote, is missing. I think she was also an important part of the success of the show. In the American show you have a Mexican bimbo who doesn't look like she eats more than that spoonful and who is now seen by the core audience as a homewrecker.
The American show reminds me of those Cupcake competition shows where it can't be competitive enough while the British original is more a 'feel good after a stressful day' sort of show.
I don't think there will be a second season.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/20/2013|
Silly me, I forgot the link:
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/20/2013|
R25, I still think it will come down to either Francine or Elaine. Although Darlene excelled in breads, the other two also did quite well in that category. The other contestants all seem to be struggling.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/20/2013|
R31 sums it up nicely.
There's a tradition of British competition-reality shows of this general sort that are hands down better than their American counterparts.
Among the contributing factors: the hosts or hosts --even when they are comedians or from some background unrelated to the show's theme-- tend to come off more as a part of the program and less as the star factor around whom all else orbits. Mostly, though, it's a simple formula: if the standards of judging are high, the judges and presenters articulate and able to convey a depth of knowledge, and the competitors are both serious and talented, all will come together successfully. In essence the show becomes about bakers and baking, or about chefs and some very advanced cooking, or about blacksmiths and blacksmithing -- the story is carried by the craft itself and by people who who exemplify its skills.
Great British Bake Off and MasterChef often have contestants who are shy and awkward on camera; they are not possessed of some idea that they have great screen presence and a TV career in their future, they want to demonstrate their skills as bakers and chefs and advance their careers within those occupations. In the U.S. by contrast, every contestant is a star in the the making, a former weather man on a local TV station turned cupcake maker, a woman who's never so much as baked a cake for a county fair but who's certain she's the next TV brand because of her "infectious enthusiasm" (and evident contempt for competence in favor of raw ambition).
Watching people highly skilled at a specialist talent demonstrate or articulate that talent can be, in itself, an entertaining thing. British series realize this more than American series.
Top Chef is an American exception, maybe Project Runway, both of which --at their best seasons-- rely heavily on competence in a particular field.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/20/2013|
That's very interesting, R34, and it's probably fun to watch. The problem is that it's broadcast in England and this is the U.S.
I enjoy this show, and I can't stand reality shows. The show works for some of us.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/20/2013|
Weepy, juvenile-coiffed Kolette looks like the kind of home healthcare worker that beats your grandma when nobody's around.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/20/2013|
You really think someone who puts edible glitter in desserts would hurt Granny? I could see it.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/20/2013|
[quote] Weepy, juvenile-coiffed Kolette looks like the kind of home healthcare worker that beats your grandma when nobody's around.
That one's crazier than a shithouse rat.
And who's minding her ferrets while she's away?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/20/2013|
Martha Stewart was gunning to be a judge on this show. Too bad they didn't go with her.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/20/2013|
I LOVE this charming show! The contestants are so damn likable. Kudos to whoever did the casting. I want to sit in that tent all day long and cheer them on...well, except for closet-case, Brian. Jeff Foxworthy is a wonderful host.
All of the guys are closet-cases. I love how James and Paul Hollywood flirt with each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/20/2013|
For some reason, I keep running into this show and I like it. It's very soothing for reality tv. Plus I'm impressed by people who can bake.
I have made soft pretzels before since I loved them when I lived in Philadelphia and could by them freshly made from a hole-in-the-wall baker with a walk up window.
The croissant part of the challenge was murder.
I think the black lady will win but the heavy set woman with blond hair will get her own show.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/20/2013|
The Food Network needs to fire Paula Deen and replace her with Francine.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/20/2013|
I am a great cook. I can make delicious meals out of a tiny kitchen with two functioning burners.
Baking...forget it. When I was invited to a cookie exchange it was all too apparent how awful I was after trying three different times to make something decent.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/20/2013|
[quote]In essence the show becomes about bakers and baking, or about chefs and some very advanced cooking... the story is carried by the craft itself and by people who who exemplify its skills.
Which means it will fail miserably and will not be picked up for another season.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/21/2013|
These folks clearly do not know what they are doing. He told them to "shock" the pretzels and some of them put them in the boiling water for over a minute.
I was disappointed they didn't show Darleen baking the pretzels, since hers turned out the best. It was interesting that in every competition people couldn't seem to finish on time.
They've already hinted it will go to the dark and cliched American place. Brian discusses endlessly who his competition is, and the preview for next week hinted at accusations of sabotage! American shows just don't seem to be able to have cheerful, friendly competitions. Some of those "wedding cake" competitions it seemed like some of people were so evil they would throw marbles on the floor so the others would slip bringing their cakes to the table.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/21/2013|
[quote]They've already hinted it will go to the dark and cliched American place. Brian discusses endlessly who his competition is, and the preview for next week hinted at accusations of sabotage!
Brian would have to sabotage everyone to win; he's that far down in the competition. The only contestant who's possibly on shakier ground than Brian is James.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/21/2013|
I love this show. It's calm, charming, educational. Editing isn't exhausting. The host is funny, and the judges are clearly passionate and knowledgeable about their subject.
Best of all: the casting.
With the exception of Brian, they are all likable. I hope he goes home next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/23/2013|
Well, fuck Jeff F. and the rest of the show is fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/23/2013|
I like it enough, I like that the show focus more on the baking and the competitors, judges, and host are all alright. I am just happy that they didn't turn into another gordon ramsay show where they obviously cast and edit the contestants for the drama.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/23/2013|
James, the furry closet-case, is adorable. I was sick when he messed up the final challenge and forfeited "Star Baker" to Darlene.
Francine continues to be the most likable woman on television. Please, Food Network, give this woman her own show.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/27/2013|
Poor James couldn't get his 7-minute frosting done in time.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/27/2013|
I forgot to watch it again.
(I'm rooting for the African-American woman.)
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/27/2013|
R51 I would take a lot longer than seven minutes to work on Jeff.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/27/2013|
Sorry! I meant JAMES! (Not Jeff Foxworthy!)
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/27/2013|
[quote]Francine continues to be the most likable woman on television. Please, Food Network, give this woman her own show.
I agree. I especially liked her vulnerable site on the latest episode. When Jeff talked to her about her mother, I welled up as well.
And does anyone NOT hate Brian? He's a vile person, an absolute narcissist. If I knew him in real life, I'd run far away.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||07/01/2013|
Why is Foxworthy even on there? Shouldn't he be telling jokes or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||07/01/2013|
[quote]Why is Foxworthy even on there? Shouldn't he be telling jokes or something?
He's a host, just as he was just a host on Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? He cracks a few jokes, but mostly he serves as an emcee and adds a pleasant down-home feel -- the show has the feel of a country fair bake-off.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||07/01/2013|
There's no way Brian is straight. He's got Evil Bitch Queen written all over his face. If he gets sent home before the end I can just hear him saying, "Christopher, bring me the rolling pin!!!"
Love Francine and her chocolate-peanut butter-bacon pie (which probaby tastes wonderful), but Darlene (the African-American woman) is the most talented of the bunch, IMO.
Jeremy the fireman was a doll. Was sorry to see him leave, but after his mishaps, it was expected.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||07/01/2013|
Elaine is the AA woman. Darlene is the white woman who won the bread baking competition because Hollywood loved her pretzels.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||07/01/2013|
Francine should have slammed that refrigerator door on Brian's head. He's so rude.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||07/01/2013|
Ranking those who are left, I think Elaine should win. She is the most talented overall and she's also been the most consistent. She hasn't had a failure and she's either won or been close to the top of every event. Her entries are always beautiful.
Francine would be next. She's had some nice successes and no major failures, except that her pretzels weren't great. The woman judge didn't much like one of her very sweet Southern cakes but admitted it had probably turned out the way it was supposed to. She's the most fun to watch and is obviously having a good time.
Darlene would be third. She's also been very consistent and has had some very good entries. She seems to be quite artistic and I like how she decorates her baked goods. She won the bread baking event.
Effie would be fourth. She's quieter and easy not to notice, but she seems like a talented and consistent baker.
James is fifth. I suspect he's a better baker than he's shown us in this competition. He's produced some nice baked goods, but I think he's got a time management problem and I also think the pressure gets to him. I don't think he's had as broad a range of experience as some of the others.
Brian is last place and I wouldn't be surprised if someone dies when the announcement is made. I think he believes he's the best baker among everyone he knows, but I doubt that's true. The judges have clearly disliked the flavors he has used in some of his entries.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||07/01/2013|
Currently watching the Norwegian version online via TV3Play. One of the bakefraus decided to put her cakes on the floor to cool. Right on the main path to the shared chiller. Of course they got trodden on. Poor cow tried to rescue them by reassembling the remains like a jigsaw puzzle.
One of the bakegays decided to combine Norwegian brown cheese (yeeeuch) with calvados to make a fruit pie. Sort of like combining caviar with Velveeta. He was shown the door for his troubles.
Going to hunt down some more foreign versions. This shit is addictive.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/01/2013|
[quote]Effie would be fourth. She's quieter and easy not to notice, but she seems like a talented and consistent baker.
Effie was dumped last week.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/01/2013|
That's what I get for not watching. They kept Brian and James and dumped Effie?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/01/2013|
R62, now I have to find out what TV3Play is!
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/01/2013|
How does someone come to the decision to cool things on the floor? Were the other spots taken?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/01/2013|
It's really no dumber than Brian in the American competition deciding to decorate his cake while it was in a shared refrigerator. He managed to mess up Francine's cake while he was at it. Too bad she didn't have a gun.
I think that might be the incident that led to the sabotage rumors.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/01/2013|
Brian is the sort of person whose entire attitude dares you to make any criticism of his cooking/baking. He probably thinks he's better than he is because anyone who knows him probably doesn't want to deal with the fireworks if they don't praise him to the skies.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/02/2013|
Brian's chocolate souffle was a pitiful, deflated mess. He's had more misses than hits during this competition.
I want James and Francine in the final two.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/02/2013|
I think somebody should send episodes of this program to the Food Network to see how they should retool their Next Food Network Star program.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/02/2013|
R65 - I use XBMC and it finds all the tv via add-ons. For a direct link, to the episodes see below.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/02/2013|
This show is a nice substitute for Bravo's Top Chef: Just Desserts, since that show was canceled. I may like it even better because the bakers are amateurs.
I assume the contestants knew about the challenges beforehand since they have their recipes with them. They probably didn't know the specifics of each challenge, but were given a general idea of what to expect, and what kind of recipes to bring with them. I always thought it was strange how the pastry chefs on Just Desserts weren't allowed to use recipes. Baking is an exact science and using a recipe is expected.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/02/2013|
I think they may have been told to bring some of their favorite recipes, but no specifics were given. When they were baking their favorite cakes a couple of the bakers said when they had to enlarge their cakes they ran into problems. The nice fireman (Jeremy?) was one of those, and his cake didn't turn out well.
One of their challenges is that they're given ingredients but no instructions, and apparently sometimes the amounts either aren't specific or precise.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/02/2013|
I'm not even a novice baker and I know not to check the temperature of a souffle by taking it out of the oven.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||07/02/2013|
American here who has seen every season of the British version (you geezer gays really need to learn how to use the internet for things other than porn). The British contestants were far more talented than any of the Americans. Their finished baked goods were much more professionally presented. And Mary Berry is a million times more interesting than that tired nobody who replaced her in America (Marcella something). Poor Paul Hollywood seems like he can barely contain his contempt for these amateurs. I cannot believe that they are the best home bakers America has to offer. It's just pathetically bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||07/02/2013|
Awww ... bear-in-training James was eliminated last night, along with the usually competent Elaine. Now we're down to Brian (who totally redeemed himself last night with great pastries and by helping James), Francine and Darlene.
Oh, and Brian confessed to having a bromance with James.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||07/04/2013|
R75, why do you hate America?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||07/04/2013|
If the Food Network was smart, they'd sign Francine, give her her own show and turn her into the next Paula "I is what I is" Dean - minus the racist remarks of course.
Can't believe Brian showed a human side, but I think it was a way to get closer to James. I'm sure he was thinking of a way or two as to how James could return the favor
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/04/2013|
I've quit watching because I realized this is why I hate reality shows.
Brian is not a good baker and he should have been eliminated weeks ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||07/04/2013|
The ratings are so bad this will never be renewed. I knew an American version wouldn't work. Americans have no appreciation for this kind of charming, informative, feel good competition.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||07/04/2013|
R80, why do you hate America?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||07/04/2013|
Tonight is the finale. I'm so sad because tonight is probably the last episode ever of ABC since the ratings have been very low. It's the end of an era. Thank goodness a new season of Project Runway starts in two weeks.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||07/10/2013|
I want Paul Hollywood in me quite deeply.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||07/10/2013|
just saw the finale, surprised that Brian was married with kids, thought he was gay.
james was pretty cute.
overall i enjoyed watching it since there is not much on during the summer, but it doesn't really stand out so I think probably won't get a second season.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||07/10/2013|
I wanted to like it; like the various competitions on Bravo and Food Network, but I found this show BORING. And WTF was with Jeff Foxworthy hosting it??
|by Anonymous||reply 85||07/10/2013|
[quote]I'm so sad because tonight is probably the last episode ever of ABC since the ratings have been very low.
The network's going tits up?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||07/10/2013|
Brian is married? To a woman?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||07/11/2013|
I liked the idea of it but the show was boring and I couldn't get behind any contestant. I do love Marcella though! So pretty and I like her food!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||07/11/2013|
Brian's family looks like they were rented at Wasps 'R Us.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||07/11/2013|
It was clear all along that Paul Hollywood was doing all the deciding and the other judge didn't really count.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||07/11/2013|
I can't fucking stand the British judge. Why do they always have to have these fucking British people judging AMERICAN shows?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||07/11/2013|
Brian won?? Ridiculous. Fuckin' closet case.
[bold] “The vacuum is missing you.” Brian’s wife said this to him on the occasion of him winning $250,000 and a cookbook deal.[/bold]
He did shitty all season except for the last two episodes. On the other hand, Francine, Darlene and Elaine were consistently good.
I call bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||07/11/2013|
[quote]I can't fucking stand the British judge. Why do they always have to have these fucking British people judging AMERICAN shows?
Because it's a British show and the British judge was also on the British show.
Good lord, we've had to put up with you fucking Americans for so long, we're glad we don't have to see your fuckfaces everytime we turn on the TV or go to the movies
|by Anonymous||reply 93||07/11/2013|
r62, how are you able to translate the norwegian version on XBMC?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||07/12/2013|
was glad Francine lost. She thought she would win just because she was a redneck like Jeff. Nope, you actually have to bake things that taste and look good.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||07/12/2013|
[quote]He did shitty all season except for the last two episodes. On the other hand, Francine, Darlene and Elaine were consistently good.
I agree, R92. Total bullshit. James also did consistently better than Brian. So the guy who should have been sent home weeks ago won? No way.
I keep reading it's doubtful they'll be renewed for a second second. If they were, I wouldn't watch again, not after this.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||07/12/2013|
I agree with you. R97, because the judging is simply not fair. I actually loved the show in the beginning because it had people that weren't flashy and it seemed a bit more real. Unlike the "home chefs" on Master Chef that always finish on time and and plate everything perfectly.
The fact that Brian won is fucking ridiculous. And you're right, James also did much better.
I could still get lost in Paul's eyes and accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||07/12/2013|
Paul doesn't do much for me, R98. Jeremy is more my type, and I also began liking James as the competition went on.
I get the impression Paul has a very high opinion of himself. I don't mind a little of that, but he's a bit much.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||07/12/2013|
With the exception of evil, undeserving, closet-case Brian winning, I really enjoyed this show. I'm crazy about Francine, what a great personality and she can bake like a fiend.
I did find myself missing Mary Berry. Marcela was nice enough but almost useless. Paul Hollywood was good, as usual. He's got a series on baking bread that's great - very sexy. I didn't even mind Jeff Foxworthy, although he's not a favorite of mine.
I can see why they'd want one American judge for an American version of the show. Unfortunately, Marcela was not a good choice. If they do have another go at it, they'll have to replace her. Martha would be awful but I can't think of anyone who'd be right for it.
It needs a Mary Berry type. A sweet and dignified old lady who will give good, honest criticism without being harsh or unpleasant. I'm drawing a blank - it may be too much to ask for.
I was tempted to start a new thread last night - "Closet Cases You Hope Never Come Out" in honor of Brian. Do Not Want.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||07/12/2013|
R100, Dorie Greenspan would be wonderful. There are other great cookbook writers like Beatrice Ojakangas, Flo Braker and Nancy Baggett who would all be very good. Too bad Marion Cunningham is dead; she'd be perfect. Gale Gand and Sherry Yard are probably too busy, but they could do it.
There are some great baking teachers from places like King Arthur Flour who would be fair judges and encouraging at the same time.
Martha might be better than you think. On her original show, she featured many different bakers and I never saw her as being critical or negative. The times I've seen her in teacher mode, she's been surprisingly patient.
I didn't like Marcela and I got the impression Paul was making all of the decisions and she went along with him, particularly as the competition went on.
What I really disliked about Paul was that the bakers were working blind in some of the bread categories, with little or no instructions. They were his formulas, such as they were, and with very little to go on, he demanded their products turn out exactly like his own. It felt like he was being a diva, and I'm not convinced he's that good a baker.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||07/12/2013|
But that's the whole point of the technical challenge. They are supposed to rely on their own knowledge and experience as bakers.
It's a controlled crapshoot but I liked the technicals. Maybe Hollywood shouldn't have expected their breads to be as good as his but his were the standard. I was okay with that.
Look at the donuts in the finale. The best fryer, Francine, didn't do all that well. Evil Brian was the worst of the lot. Darlene, who had never made donuts, was the best. Her experience as a baker pulled her through that challenge.
I'm still anti-Martha for this program. She may be patient as a teacher but she has all the warmth of a snow cone. As for the others you listed, it comes down to who would be best for the camera - as always.
I hope they do try this program again. Even if they shitcan both Paul Hollywood and Marcela Whatever for their off-cameral fuckfest, the concept of the show is great.
Hey, I know - get FRANCINE to judge it with Paul. They would be hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||07/12/2013|
Would you trust a second year of the show not to be fixed, after what we just saw?
I sure wouldn't. Brian was the fifth best baker, not anywhere close to being the best.
An example of the problem I have with Hollywood and breads in the technical challenges was when he only found acceptable the pretzels that were the exact color of those he makes, which I consider too dark. (Pretzel crust develops a bitter flavor I don't enjoy when it's baked that dark.) He only seemed to care how the pretzels looked because I don't recall him tearing them apart to check their texture nor did he taste them.
Same thing with the hot water dough for the vegetable pie, which along with pretzels are old recipes that get handed down. My version of a perfect pretzel doesn't square with Hollywood's, and I don't make hot water dough the same way he does. It's all subjective, and my version isn't wrong and his right and vice-versa. It's not advertised as the Paul Hollywood copycat baking competition and it shouldn't be judged that way.
They did the same thing with Marcela's chiffon cake. They were given the measurements but no mixing and baking instructions, and then their chiffon cakes were supposed to be just like Marcela's. That's not a technical competition, it's a copycat competition.
Darlene was hands-down the best bread baker in the competition. She may not have made doughnuts before, but she sure knows yeast and she knew the right technique to get the texture she wanted in a sweet yeast dough.
I agree about Martha. She's not a ray of sunshine, that's for sure. I thought about her because she would stand up to Hollywood, unlike that simpering Marcela. As soon as they hit the sheets, she seems to have lost her voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||07/12/2013|
I'm still reeling at the sight of Brian with his wife and kids. His wife saying "the vacuum cleaner really missed you" was telling, though.
That man just screams MARY! I can just see him at home with a little hausfrau outfit vacuuming and dusting.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||07/12/2013|
I'm glad I didn't watch this show.
Thanks to all of you for this thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 105||07/12/2013|
[quote] I'm still reeling at the sight of Brian with his wife and kids. His wife saying "the vacuum cleaner really missed you" was telling, though.
Did you also notice that when they embraced, she kissed him on the cheek, not on the lips. I thought that was....interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||07/12/2013|
R103, you are very sexy talking about cooking like that.. !
|by Anonymous||reply 107||07/12/2013|
I understand what you mean, R103 and there is where I miss Mary Berry. In the British version, Paul had his say and Mary had hers. In England she's known as "The Queen of Cakes" or something like that.
Mary is a very lovely old lady with a zillion years of baking experience. Hollywood respected her, as did everyone else. She was very sweet but no nonsense and she had her own opinion on how each thing ought to taste, look, etc.
With judging food it's always going to be somewhat subjective. In the Brit version, Mary balanced Paul and it made for a better competition. Marcela Whatever cooks Mexican food and she's relatively young. Paul didn't respect her and - frankly - neither did I. They need someone older, more experienced and stronger as a co-judge.
As for it being fixed - I don't know. Brian was obviously not the best overall baker. What I'm not sure about is whether he was the best on the day and if that last day was the determining factor. It must have been because he'd never have won if they took all the bakes into account.
God only knows what's going to be in Brian's cookbook. When he did his own thing he wasn't that successful with his flavors.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||07/12/2013|
The whole thing was silly. There are all these baking competitions for professionals and America is FILLED with people who bake better than Paul Hollywood: several hundred thousand at least.
And yet these amateurs who only bake for friends and family are supposed to have tried baking everything from pretzels to petit fours. Ludicrous.
And Brian won not because he was a better baker but because his "show stopper" had more marketing appeal because it was prettier. The opposite of what you want from an amateur baker.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||07/12/2013|
[quote]And yet these amateurs who only bake for friends and family are supposed to have tried baking everything from pretzels to petit fours. Ludicrous.
Not really. They weren't *supposed* to have done anything specifically. Many of them failed at some of those things. That's part of the show, to challenge what they knew.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||07/12/2013|
When Francine said that Brian couldn't get a hug from Paul Hollywood because he wasn't a chick, Brian said that he'd be a chick for Paul.
Brian said he wanted to use the prize money to open up a b&b. I bet he leaves his wife and opens up a b&b in Provincetown with his boyfriend.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||07/12/2013|
[quote]Brian said that he'd be a chick for Paul.
YES!! I can't believe I forgot to post about that, and that you're the first one who mentioned it. My partner and I both had a DL moment and shouted "MARY!!" at the same time after he did that.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||07/12/2013|
Brian admitting that he had a "bromance" with James, and then helping him with his cream puff batter was the gayest thing ever. His poor wife must have been livid.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||07/12/2013|
Paul Hollywood's wife has an interview in today's DailyMail.
It's all about him taking up with his co-host and the end of their marriage. What a shithead.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||07/13/2013|
'It's all my fault': Paul Hollywood admits his devastation over 'affair' that ended his marriage and made his son ill"
Damn! Story at link.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||07/13/2013|
His wife looks lie a bitch. He was probably around someone who made him happy for the first time in a long time, so he left his wife to be happy. Sad it has to affect the kid though..
|by Anonymous||reply 118||07/13/2013|
[quote]My son got quite ill, nosebleeds, he was quite upset
|by Anonymous||reply 119||07/13/2013|
I guess romance and baking go hand-in-hand (or oven mitt-in-oven mitt.) In addition to Paul-cela, there was Brian and James's bromance, and now word is that James and the college chick from Texas who was eliminated in the second episode (?) are a couple.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||07/13/2013|
I couldn't believe how the producers waited until the finale to finally give Darlene a backstory. She was a complete non-entity until the final episode. I betcha anything her husband left her for another woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||07/13/2013|
R95 - I speak several languages. XBMC is just a conduit for the online editions - it doesn't translate or subtitle anything.
[quote] and there is where I miss Mary Berry. In the British version, Paul had his say and Mary had hers.
The thing I liked most about Mary is that she was less inclined to be po-faced than Paul. He would screw his face up if he detected the merest hint of alcohol, whereas Mary would vote your cake higher if you tipped the whole bottle into your mixture. I sort of imagine her like the old biddy in this popular advert.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||07/13/2013|
Why was Brian on crutches? Did they ever explain the mishap? I'm surprised he won and was rooting for Darlene to win.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/13/2013|
Yes big Darlene fan here. She aced those Boston Cream donuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/13/2013|
I knew the British guy was an asshole, but I didn't realize just how big of an asshole until I read this:
|by Anonymous||reply 126||07/13/2013|
The Boston Cream Donuts were supposed to be Paul's recipe. Why does a Brit have a recipe for Boston Cream anything? Hasn't he heard of the (original) Tea Party?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||07/13/2013|
Francine has the fattest family on the planet. I nearly died when she told her daughter, "You've grown!"
|by Anonymous||reply 128||07/13/2013|
Did he tell them there should be a ring of uncooked dough? Isn't that the sign of a bad doughnut?
|by Anonymous||reply 129||07/13/2013|
How fake. Marcela is the home wrecker? Highly implausible.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||07/13/2013|
[quote]I nearly died when she told her daughter, "You've grown!"
That was freakin' hilarious..
|by Anonymous||reply 131||07/14/2013|
[quote]Why was Brian on crutches?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||07/14/2013|
R126. do try and keep up dear..
|by Anonymous||reply 133||07/14/2013|
[quote]America is FILLED with people who bake better than Paul Hollywood: several hundred thousand at least.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||07/14/2013|
Anyone know when the new BBC season starts?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||07/15/2013|
Silly R134, you don't know much about the science of baking, do you? Well, neither does Paul Hollywood.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||07/15/2013|
I could not stand Francine. Then I saw her family and thought she must want them to die. How can she look at them and herself and not change, just a little? I cook with fat and have no problem with it. But, it seemed like she glorified it. Her recipes where gross! I hate that style of cookie. I wanted Darlene to win. She was great.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||07/15/2013|
i'm still mad that brian won. he is pretty nasty looking.
i wanted darlene to win.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/29/2013|
Season 4 of the BBC version just started and is fantastic!
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/30/2013|
Thanks for the heads up...we watched the British version last night and loved it.
Much more talented bakers right off the bat.
10,000 people applied for this season!
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/31/2013|
Another thanks for the reference to the BBC version--it's very entertaining.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||09/07/2013|
The Great British Bake Off blows this out of the water
|by Anonymous||reply 143||09/07/2013|
Still watching the British version on You Tube...the older woman told Ali last night that if he didn't keep in touch she would kill him....how sweet is she!
|by Anonymous||reply 144||09/15/2013|
I liked the American version but love the original Brit version. I want Mary Berry to adopt me. She is perfection and the word "scrummy" needs to be used more often. Paul Hollywood is a fuckable daddy.
The bakers on the Brit version seem so much nicer and less obnoxious than the American bakers, although I loved me some Francine. Of the current Brit bakers, I like Gay Glenn, Philosopher Ruby and Cute Kimberley. I actually like the rest of them as well but those three are my favorites.
Is there another American version in the works or did the "scandal" put the kibosh on it?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||09/15/2013|
To admit that you watch this show is to admit that you have absolutely no social life at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||09/15/2013|
The Brit version is so much fun to watch--and lacks the screeching and hyped-up competition that is common to US reality shows.
And it's clear that the Brit competition is much harder, and the competitors are far more accomplished cooks.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||09/29/2013|
I love all the contestants. Howard! Did you see the shot of him jogging, it was hysterical!
|by Anonymous||reply 148||09/30/2013|
They now have the Irish great bake off....more sweet talented people.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||10/03/2013|
the australian show is fabulous.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||10/21/2013|
Yes, I'm bumping an old thread, get over it.
I started watching The British Bake-Off season 4 and there were 2 comments about judge Paul Hollywood (who was also a judge on the American bake-off show last year.) The dyke-y looking host made a joke that he's a "size queen" and later, another commented that a chocolate bear should be called Paul. Is he gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/17/2014|
I loved this show. Is it coming back?
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/17/2014|
R151 Didn't you see the comments about his affair with Marcela last season (and the breakup of his marriage)? I don't know what developed after the show ended, as PH is not exactly on most US entertainment news sources' radar.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/17/2014|
Yeah, I saw the posts about the affair, but maybe that was just coverup for an affair with a guy? Or maybe he's bi?
R152, I don't think it's coming back in the US, it's been over a year since the 1st season aired and haven't heard it mentioned since.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/17/2014|
Season 5 of The Great British Bakeoff started last week.
I doubt Hollywood's bi, although who ever knows. I must admit I'm getting some gay/bi vibes. He's sexy and I've tried to catch some signs when he's chatting with the male contestants but I haven't really caught any. Baking has been family business so he didn't even really choose it himself out of the blue. Although he did at first study to become a sculptor at art school (says Wikipedia).
I like him a lot, and I love that the lovely dykey dark haired host of the British Bakeoff calls him sometimes Silverback after a gorilla. I've actually sometimes wondered if those two are fucking.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/17/2014|
I watched the first 2 episodes of season 5 last week. The contestants are so much better than last season's clumsy lot. Martha will do well, I think. Chetna, Luis and the merchant marine guy will do all right as well. I can't remember who did the George vs the dragon cake but it was amazing.
Last season's Alan Rickman MARY was probably the most entertaining of all the series.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/17/2014|
He looks like the typical fat guy/little cock combo.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/17/2014|
[quote]I like him a lot, and I love that the lovely dykey dark haired host of the British Bakeoff calls him sometimes Silverback after a gorilla. I've actually sometimes wondered if those two are fucking.
Sue Perkins? She is gay, quite famously. It's like saying "oh, that Rosie O'Donnell looks dykey. I wonder if she is fucking this guy." Perkins is with TV presenter Anna Richardson but it's all a bit hush-hush
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/17/2014|
I love the Great British Bake Off. It's the most charming reality show I've ever seen. The contestants are, for the most part, quite skilled at baking and almost aggressively ordinary and low-key. Not surprised that the charm didn't translate to the US version.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/17/2014|
The U.S. version didn't have Mary Berry and the two female hosts from the British show. And the US show had horrible untalented contestants. I watched a few shows and then gave up. I have no interest in knowing who won.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/17/2014|
The US version lacks the friendly charm and humor that the UK version has but replaced it with the usual US reality show competition bitchiness.
And yes, what R158 said, Sue Perkins is a lesbo, which is why her comments about Paul made me wonder if he too, is gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/17/2014|
Regarding Sue Perkins, watching her flirt outrageously with one of the finalists (Ruby, who is about half Sue's age) last year was hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/17/2014|
Is it going to come back to the US?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/17/2014|
R158, haha, yeah, I thought she (i.e. Sue Perkins) most probably is gay. She's very dude-like in a lesbian way and is very charming.
The Brit version nails the hosts and the judges and it all seems very natural with the settings and the cosy atmosphere. I've seen the same show from three other countries and they've all seemed faker than fake. The hosts and the judges just fail to get even near the delicious dynamic the Brits have.
I'm obviously always on the lookout for hot guys everywhere and even though there's been a few cute guys in the Brit version it's this year's tall Irish red head that gets me hot. After last episode I spent an hour trying to find porn with tall ginger Irish men in them. (Unfortunately couldn't find one.) Too bad he's not that good baker so he'll be out probably next week or week after that.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/17/2014|
How do I get on the British version? I think they can use some of my down-home country charm....
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/17/2014|
[quote]I loved this show. Is it coming back?
The American version was not renewed.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/17/2014|
Anyone still watching The Great British Bakeoff? There has been DRAMA! It's almost gotten as bitch as American reality shows!
|by Anonymous||reply 167||09/03/2014|
Great British Bake Off Finals!
Who are you rooting for?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||10/05/2014|
Luis. Richard just doesn't do it for me, basic builder mentality. Luis has some creativity and he's turned out some fantastic stuff.
Chetna was my favorite, but.. *sob*
|by Anonymous||reply 169||10/05/2014|
R168 have you been watching Extra Slice, too?
|by Anonymous||reply 170||10/05/2014|
No, R170, I haven't. Am I missing something? I've thought about it.
I'm pulling for Nancy, although I don't think she has a chance. The men just in a class of their own. I was surprised they went with Nancy instead of Chetna.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||10/05/2014|
I'm rooting for Mary Berry to don a cheeky jacket, comment on the lovely crunch, and just be perfectly appropriate. National treasure.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||10/05/2014|
I was too, Nancy's bakes never seem to turn out very well and she always plays it safe.
Extra Slice is almost better than watching GBBO, just totally hilarious. Jo Brand's snark is legendary.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||10/05/2014|
Loved her reaction to Luis's irish cream cupcakes
|by Anonymous||reply 174||10/05/2014|
I think my post got lost
Loved Mary's reaction to Luis's Irish cream cupcakes
|by Anonymous||reply 175||10/05/2014|
Back to the American version for a minute -- whatever happened with the Paul/Marcela affair? I know Marcela is now a regular on Food Network's ripoff of "The Chew" called "The Kitchen," but are they still an item?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||10/05/2014|
[quote] While the show itself is much better than the usual cooking competition shows (mostly because of the lack of artificial drama among the contestants) there's apparently some juicy behind-the-scenes stuff going on, because Paul H. dumped his wife to fool around with Marcela.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||10/05/2014|
Back with his wife, r176.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||10/05/2014|
[quote]Sue Perkins? She is gay, quite famously. It's like saying "oh, that Rosie O'Donnell looks dykey. I wonder if she is fucking this guy." Perkins is with TV presenter Anna Richardson but it's all a bit hush-hush
I like them as a couple. Had no idea Anna Richardson is gay. Perkins, yes, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||10/05/2014|
What are your thoughts about BinGate? Yeah, Iain flew off the handle and it's his own fault but Mrs. Doubtfire was a dotty old bird and didn't help matters any. Didn't buy her reason for leaving, either. I think she was given the boot.
Still, thought it was crap that BBC resorted to this American reality show melodrama. Unnecessary.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||10/05/2014|
GBBO final tonight, who's watched it?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||10/08/2014|
GBBO Baking final! All the drama, all the tears, all the croquembouche!
|by Anonymous||reply 183||10/10/2014|