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Here's what I don't understand about anti-gay people.

From my understanding, their biggest problem with the acceptance of homosexuality, or as they say, the promotion of homosexuality, is that it will destroy the nuclear family, thus the de-population of the earth. I've heard this from religious and non-religious alike.

If that's the case - and I am pretty sure it is NOT the case - that presumes that people will choose a homosexual lifestyle, right? Why would anyone choose homosexuality if they're heterosexual?

I mean, if people chose, I could see their point because it is easier to get along with your own gender, but most people are not wired that way. Most are wired to fall in love with the opposite gender, or am I missing something and we're all wired to fall for the same gender? Is that the big secret? I know I am, but maybe I'm the norm and because homosexuality has been demonized most will not admit to it.

In other words, all of these "straight" men are bearding and truthfully desire men. Could it be?

by Anonymousreply 2606/15/2013

Their biggest problem is IGNORANCE.

And then there's the purveyors of homophobia who have everything to gain in terms of power and money by perpetuating it.

by Anonymousreply 106/14/2013

Here's another thing. Gay people are the last group (besides the Muslims, and the poor) that it's okay to demonize. The ruling class NEEDS groups of people to demonize. That's how they stay in power.

by Anonymousreply 206/14/2013

OP I used to feel the same way, I could not understand how some people could say things that were so easily discredited. Then I realized something. The people who make these statements, the people who lead this movement are being paid to say these things. Its all about money for them. They earn a pretty income demonizing people. As long as hating gay people pays, they will keep it up. For some of them, its really the only work they know how to do.

by Anonymousreply 306/14/2013

OP, I believe you've got it all wrong. If the issue was repopulating the Earth, more likely increasing the number of Christians or another religion, anti-gay's would also be against childless straights and for plural marriage.

Instead some insist on legislating sexually acceptable practices. Oral and anal sex was once deemed unnatural and illegal, even for straights. Those who take the Bible literally use it as justification for their positions. The same stigma is attached to the world's oldest profession.

by Anonymousreply 406/14/2013

But there are people who truly believe that homosexuality will destroy the family. They are not paid....they truly believe this. Unless they are closeted homosexuals themselves, how could they possibly believe that heterosexuals will choose homosexuality?

by Anonymousreply 506/14/2013

R5, you constantly hear these homophobes talking about 'choice' and 'temptation'.

Combine that with studies that prove that very homophobic men are turned on by gay porn, while non-homophobic straight men are not... and I can come to only one conclusion.

Most of these idiots are bisexual. For them it CAN be a 'temptation' away from what they see as 'normal', and it IS a choice for them to not act on their desires.

And because they're small-minded self-absorbed idiots, they cannot imagine anyone else being any different. They think EVERYONE feels that way. That gay people are just 'weak' against the 'temptation'.

by Anonymousreply 606/14/2013

When you get right down to it, the problem that anti-gay people have with homosexuality is butt sex. The rest is just window dressing.

by Anonymousreply 706/14/2013

"But the Bible says....and I'm a Christian."

by Anonymousreply 806/14/2013

The morbidly obese bitch who organized the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), to fight marriage equality is a total failure with her own marraige. The father of Maggie Gallagher's son refused to marry her. When she finally trapped a guy into marriage, it didn't last. He probably is paid by NOM to keep quiet about their failed marriage.

by Anonymousreply 906/14/2013

DO NOT try to apply logic to their arguments. They simply will not hold up.

They are very much afraid of many things, change, and their own erotic impulses among others.

by Anonymousreply 1006/14/2013

"Why would anyone choose homosexuality if they're heterosexual?"

Who doesn't want to be fabulous?

by Anonymousreply 1106/14/2013

They believe the earth would be depopulated because they believe everyone is gay (including themselves).

by Anonymousreply 1206/14/2013

Yup. People who think straight people can be "tempted" into gay sex, must think most people are gay(or bisexual)-- including themselves.

by Anonymousreply 1306/14/2013

Yeah yeah and heterosexuals choose to be heterosexual. There was a great video I saw of people who said this were asked when they chose to be heterosexual. The responses were hilarious. Has anyone posted it?

by Anonymousreply 1406/14/2013

What did they say, R14?

by Anonymousreply 1506/14/2013

I remember listening to some phone-in show on the radio and a perfectly nice sounding woman felt that if homosexuality became more acceptable more and more men would move over.

It's absurd.

by Anonymousreply 1606/14/2013

R16, I've talked to many ladies who really believe that to be true; more acceptance means more men would declare themselves to be gay. They don't realize that there's always been homosexuality, and not just in ancient Greece. People are really naive.

by Anonymousreply 1706/14/2013

R16, Ironically that statement might be somewhat true. You see, over a certain age, single straights avoid fundie churches because they're expected to be celibate until marriage. Therefore the only single men that attend tend to be under their mothers' thumb and possibly hiding their homosexual tendencies.

Once married, men are more likely to attend with their conservative wives. Don't forget many of them have gotten married because of societal expectations. It's a well-known fact, even discussed on Oprah, that there are a lot of gay hookups among church goers pretending to be straight. Therefore ladies may see acceptance of homosexuality as the equivalent of outing of fundie male church goers who were really always gay.

by Anonymousreply 1806/14/2013

I once called an anti-gay blogger on this, wrote him and said "...but if all homosexuality is chosen, and you have to fight to keep men from choosing to be gay, then same-sex relationships must be more desirable".

He wrote back and said something like "There are a lot of reasons men might chose the homosexual lifestyle, bad relationship with a woman, the desire to avoid the responsibilities of family life, recruited at a vulnerable age, blah blah nobody is born gay etc.".

In short, that guy was too stupid to grasp simple logic.

by Anonymousreply 1906/15/2013

R19, Many people are too stupid or uneducated in the realities of life. I'll bet that if you do a poll you'd find plenty of people who aren't aware of the "born gay" logic. You would not believe what fundies are told in church.

by Anonymousreply 2006/15/2013

That's the talking point, OP, but really what's behind it is the need to hate others, to feel superior, more entitled to social esteem, and to deprive those they hate of their rights.

by Anonymousreply 2106/15/2013

I think MOST of it is certain people not dealing with their own feelings of being gay.

by Anonymousreply 2206/15/2013

What R2 said. Where would Hitler have been without his Jews?

by Anonymousreply 2306/15/2013

Meanwhile the UN is increasing future population estimates dramatically. They now say Africa will have 4 BILLION people all by itself by 2100. If there is anything this planet doesn't need, it is heterosexuality.

by Anonymousreply 2406/15/2013

More homosexuality could save the planet, R24. I've thought that ever since I realized I was of the homosexual persuasion.

by Anonymousreply 2506/15/2013

Homosexuality will save the world, despite the grumblings of the phreaks.

by Anonymousreply 2606/15/2013
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