I can't wait...
Arrested Development season 4 on Netflix
|by Anonymous||reply 226||11/08/2013|
The way this show is being hyped you'd think Jesus Christ was going to make his Second Coming on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/25/2013|
Watching the IFC marathon now!
"LOOK WHAT THE HOMOSEXUALS HAVE DONE TO ME KNOW"???!??
"You can't just blow that out and reset it"???!!
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/25/2013|
No where near as exciting as AD on Netflix, R1.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/25/2013|
I thought it was today. I keep refreshing and come up with nothing. I need to laugh NOW....
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/25/2013|
Probably at 3am when Cali hits midnight, R4 (just guessing).
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/25/2013|
Its on now. Only a few minutes in Kristen Wig and Seth Rogen as young mama and daddy Bluth AND Liza...
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/25/2013|
Oh dear. Two episodes in and I've laughed maybe twice.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/25/2013|
More, r7 (but spoiler free please)
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/25/2013|
1st episode was ok 2nd truly bad. Each episode is a catch up to one character. Third belongs to Portia....
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/25/2013|
I'm finding it hard to follow and I've watched the full series twice.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/25/2013|
It's not out for torrent download yet. Hanging out for it in Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/26/2013|
Someone told too skinny Portia 'what do you weigh? 90 lbs?' Ouch...
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/26/2013|
Can't believe there's a whole subplot spoofing the "Jessica Chastain is Ron Howard's illegitimate daughter" rumor. Datalounge is the only place I ever heard that rumor.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/26/2013|
I don't recognize Portia de Rossi. She looks like Sally Sitwell. Her hairline is about 2 inches higher than it was, giving her a massive five head. She looks hydrocephalic.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/26/2013|
Watched a few episodes when they were posted after midnight. Is it just me or does it seem like the writing is off/different? Admittedly, I haven't watched the previous episodes in years, but I don't remember Michael being that ridiculous and annoying and I don't remember George Sr. being portrayed as a dumb idiot before.
I kind of found the first two episodes hard to watch and I'm so far, a little disappointed.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/26/2013|
This is really disappointing. Not a single laugh-out-loud moment in the first two episodes.
Nice to see John Slattery and Mary Lynn Rajskub.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/26/2013|
Love Mary Lynn Rajskub - recalls the Larry Sanders Show.
I think the DL influenced a particular subplot...lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/26/2013|
I haven't watched yet because I was thinking there might be problems on Netflix with the higher traffic.
So no problems then?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/26/2013|
On episode 9 and LOVING it. Each episode gets better and better. It took me just a few episodes to get into the groove (and them too, I guess), but holy shit this is still the best show on TV ... or whatever we can call it now.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/26/2013|
We're watching now.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/26/2013|
Portia looks really different - is it fillers or what?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/26/2013|
There's too much voiceover.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/26/2013|
R21: It does look like Portia has had A LOT of work.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/26/2013|
It's the diamond cream with real FUCKING diamonds!
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/26/2013|
I've seen the older episodes so many times and yet I still can't stop watching the current marathon on IFC long enough to watch the new ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/26/2013|
I hope you're right r9. Two episodes in and I'm really disappointed. Like others have said, it hard to follow and real laughs are scarce. I don't like one character centered episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/26/2013|
r26: it gets better!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/26/2013|
The first couple of episodes are heavy on exposition and narration, but it does get way better. I'm watching classic Arrest Development right now.
They did a great job with this.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/26/2013|
"No, I meant I'm glad to be out of that hot box in the desert."
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/26/2013|
When does it get better? I'm on episode 5 and think it's still awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/26/2013|
I'm here to see my little girl and get my rocks off.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/26/2013|
I just finished episode 10. I think it picked up right at episode 6. I can't say the season is knee-slappingly funny, but I'm blown away by the complexity of the story as it keeps getting bigger and bigger and folding back on itself constantly. I think it might be some of the cleverest TV writing seen in some time.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/26/2013|
I watched episode one last night, and was going to rewatch it this morning, but now that episode is missing from the season 4 episode list...can we only watch the episodes one time?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/26/2013|
That would be ridiculous, R33.
What if a couple can't watch a show at the same time? If one gets to watch it, does that mean the other misses out?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/26/2013|
[quote]this is still the best show on TV ... or whatever we can call it now.
"It's not TV, it's HBO." "No, wait, it's not HBO ... it's NETFLIX!"
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/26/2013|
[quote]What if a couple can't watch a show at the same time? If one gets to watch it, does that mean the other misses out?
You're whining about something that isn't true. The episodes don't "disappear" after you watch them, and you can certainly rewatch them.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/26/2013|
It's great that with the multiple timelines they can go back and spoof parts of American culture that have happened since the show went of the air
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/26/2013|
R36? Did you miss my first sentence where I pointed out that it's ridiculous for that to be the case? The rest was rhetorical.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/26/2013|
I'm just guessing that with the lack of activity on this thread, a lot of people are also binge-viewing AD today.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/26/2013|
George Sr. was always the weakest main character. Why does he get two centric episodes?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/26/2013|
I'm going to start watching soon. Is Lucille Bluth still FIERCE?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/26/2013|
Georgie Sr. to a barely-recognizable Lindsay: "If you have any more work done, your cartilage is going to collapse"
Love that it was acknowledged.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/26/2013|
" Is Lucille Bluth still FIERCE?"
I don't understand that question and I won't respond to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/26/2013|
"So glad to be out of that sweaty old hot-box"
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/26/2013|
I loved the 2nd Michael-centric episode. Now it seems to be getting good.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/26/2013|
Episode 6 is where it starts to hit its stride. Up until then it feels way too forced.
If this show doesn't win every Emmy, something is wrong. I'm almost bummed for Louie, but this show is genius.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/26/2013|
Rebel Hall, like Ron Howard's other daughters Bryce Dallas and Paige Carlyle, was named for the place she was conceived. LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/26/2013|
Rebel Alley, I mean!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/26/2013|
"George Sr. was always the weakest main character. Why does he get two centric episodes?"
He was available.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/26/2013|
George Michael also has multiple episodes devoted to him. There are 15 episodes, so ... do the math. Though they all appear in each others' episodes.
It looks like I'm watching them all today. I was going to break it up, but I can't stop watching.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/26/2013|
I was just about to start watching it and my cable/internet went out.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/26/2013|
The GOB Entourage episode is pure brilliance. Did anyone else notice the "and Jeremy Piven" sign at the beginning??
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/26/2013|
I just watched the first two eps: Meh.
You mean I have to get through four more before it gets better, R46?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/26/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/26/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/26/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/26/2013|
Steve Holt looks hideous. I love that GOB talked to him for 2 hours and didnt even know it was him.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/26/2013|
[quote]Steve Holt looks hideous. I love that GOB talked to him for 2 hours and didnt even know it was him.
That didn't make a whole lot of sense, as it happened just after GOB's wedding, which happened not long after the end of the series. Steve shouldn't have looked that different.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/26/2013|
I'm about halfway through and my review is very mixed... there are places when everything clicks into place and it feels like Arrested Development, but then long stretches where the timing is off and it doesn't feel funny enough. And it's frustrating that there's not enough interaction between the main characters.
The George Sr. storyline isn't amusing at all, and there are two episodes devoted to it of the first five. I was ready to give up after episode 2, though it did get better. The stuff with GOB and Lindsay and Tobias is the best -- GOB's ill-fated wedding has one of the series' funniest sight gags ever.
There is a surprisingly large amount of Liza, and more of Henry Winkler than I was expecting too. So far Michael Cera has had the least amount of screentime, but it looks like the concluding episodes focus on him.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/26/2013|
I'm on #5, and so far it isn't working for me.
It's always been an ensemble show, and this is like watching the Three Stooges with an episode about Moe, followed by an episode about Larry, then an episode about Curly.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/26/2013|
And again, does anyone else feel the characters seem off? It's like the writers and actors forgot how the characters were originally presented. Michael was never portrayed as annoying, desperate and dumb and I don't remember George, Sr. ever being portrayed as dumb. That's how those two are coming off to me in Season 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/26/2013|
Wonder if Cera hard to sign thus his consulting producer credit...
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/26/2013|
Wonder if the movie Bateman keeps talking about is THE MOVIE...
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/26/2013|
Cera has a producer's credit because he worked in the writer's room.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/26/2013|
And who the hell is John Beard fucking that he's in or mentioned in practically every episode? Is he still even on NBC News?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/26/2013|
I'm enjoying it more and more and the rest of you can go cry in your pie!
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/26/2013|
And speaking of Michael Cera... he's really not aging well at all. It's like his nose keeps protruding and his chin keeps receding. He looked better as a 14 year old than he does at 24.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/26/2013|
"And she never even saw the license plate" LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/26/2013|
Cera has always been funny looking and he is getting worse as he ages. Maeby has also lost her youthful charm...
I'm up to the episode Lindsey(Portia looks better with her real hair) becomes like her mother. I agree it is getting better...
Georgesr is like Stanley in TGG much better in small doses...
Maybe highlighting one character per episode was because they had to work around Bateman's film career...
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/26/2013|
Episode 9-- Lucille is in fire!!! I'm loving the Debris(?) character!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/26/2013|
Me too! Debree is awesome!
Tobias: Have you been drinking?!?! Debree: Noooo ... It's pills.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/26/2013|
It's Debrie AKA Sue Storm, bitches!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/26/2013|
Yeah Michael Cera's looking older than Jason Bateman.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/26/2013|
r73: Bateman has noticeably aged.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/26/2013|
Lucille speaking about the Asian Housewives: They come after me and they'll find themselves one UN-fortune-ate cookie!
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/26/2013|
Why name one character Marc Cherry? Because his show DH killed AD in ratings?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/26/2013|
Whoever asked about Lucille: she's perfection. Her episode, along with her interactions with Lucille 2, are classic AD.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/26/2013|
R76, Marc Cherry actually played himself on the show in an earlier episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/26/2013|
3 episodes in and it's really awful. I hope it gets better.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/26/2013|
I'm only watching one episode a day, and then watching it a second time before moving on. I'm hoping to catch some of the foreshadowing.
Episode #1, Buster has only one line: "I keep losing my jewels." Things don't look good for Buster.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/26/2013|
GOB and George Michael just kissed after GOB sucked GM's pinky.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/26/2013|
Sally Sitwell is an alpaca!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/26/2013|
5 episodes in...still really bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/26/2013|
GOB has gay sex!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/26/2013|
I was so confused about anus tart, but then I got to the license plate. Literally laughed out loud for about five minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||05/26/2013|
It does get better. I think it will get better with multiple viewings too, like the earlier seasons. Even though it wasn't as laugh out loud funny as the classics I think they did a great job at telling a complex story in an interesting format.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/26/2013|
ANUSTART is a classic. I'm surprised (no, wait--this is DL so I'm not surprised) that so many of you don't like it. It feels very much like the old Arrested Development episodes to me. I love Judy Greer and Ron Howard.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/26/2013|
They're the ambiguously gay duo.
I assure you there is nothing ambiguous about me. I'm Johnny Flamer of the Fantastic Four.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/26/2013|
The first handful of episodes were almost a chore to get through, but the later episodes are some of the best of the series. So yes, it does get a lot better.
But I'm still going to go and rewatch the first episodes again. I think a large pat of my disconnect with them was me getting adjusted to the new style of storytelling the show now has.
They have pretty much destroyed the idea of self-contained episode storylines, which is jarring, but when it all starts coming together is actually pretty awesome.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||05/26/2013|
By the time I got the Tobias-centered episode, I was dying from how they synced it up to Lindsay's and her trip to India. I should have known it was Tobias behind her in the plane!
Also, I will never be able to look at those AT&T commercials with the kids the same way again. "I'll show you I'm not gay".
I'll watch E6 after I've watched the Liberace movie, but I'm somewhat surprised by the incredible lack of Gob and Buster. It's disconcerting.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||05/26/2013|
I don't know how DL couldn't love this considering the Jessica Chastain reference.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||05/26/2013|
Maebe: Please don't squeeze the shaman.
Ok I LOLed
|by Anonymous||reply 92||05/26/2013|
I think most of us after a few episodes the show is great
|by Anonymous||reply 93||05/26/2013|
I started to get used to Portia's new face after she cut her hair. It's really cute when it's short like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||05/26/2013|
The Maebe episode is some funny shit! "Thank you Kirk Cameron for that very bible-y introduction."
|by Anonymous||reply 95||05/26/2013|
[quote]The first handful of episodes were almost a chore to get through, but the later episodes are some of the best of the series. So yes, it does get a lot better.
But I'm still going to go and rewatch the first episodes again. I think a large pat of my disconnect with them was me getting adjusted to the new style of storytelling the show now has.
I'm glad I hung in because after the first four or five episodes I was ready to give up. I wonder how the show would've been structured had Hurwitz had been able to get everyone's schedules to line up (the CGI is really obvious in the trial scene between Lucille and Lucille 2. I think a number of Tony Wonder scenes were CGI. Less noticeable are the Barry Zuckercorn scenes).
|by Anonymous||reply 96||05/26/2013|
I'm only to episode five, but there are serious problems with the ensemble not being together. It's obvious the writers tried to find ways to get around the actor's availability. It was always an ensemble show.
There are still some moments, but it's lost its groove. Obviously that was going to happen after seven years. Not sure why this had to be revived if this is the result.
The green screening of actors into other's scenes is actually offensive to me. I'm kind of shocked by it. It really throws off everything.
Lucille is still fabulous, and her smoking scene was brilliant.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||05/26/2013|
"You look as swishy as Ryan Seacrest"
"Ryan Seacrest is Straight"
"And I'm 40"
|by Anonymous||reply 98||05/26/2013|
I agree the first five have been a chore to get through. Does it really get better? I'm not sure it's worth the investment for a couple of laughs.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||05/26/2013|
Yes, it gets better.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||05/26/2013|
I love that Maebe did not recognize Steve Holt, even after his "Steve Holt!".
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/26/2013|
It's worth it, and it will be even better on rewatches. The story keeps looping around on itself, and adds addition information to scenes you've already seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||05/26/2013|
I guess I’m in the minority or maybe it’s because I love and appreciate seeing these characters again, whether they’re all together or not, but I enjoyed the first two episodes; especially the second George Sr. centric one. The smoking scene between Lucille and Buster gave me a good laugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||05/26/2013|
I agree even when you are not laughing its good to see the actors/characters again. Unlike Its Always Sunny In you laugh a lot but the show has only awful characters in it...
|by Anonymous||reply 104||05/26/2013|
No one mentioned Tommy Tune? What is wrong with you, bitches?
|by Anonymous||reply 105||05/26/2013|
It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is the funniest show on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||05/26/2013|
Funny yes. Likeable characters hell no...
|by Anonymous||reply 107||05/26/2013|
ARGYLE: You're going to have to work with our new patient, and good luck with her. We call her the B word from the C ward. Or is it the C word from the B ward?
NARRATOR: And then Tobias got some more bad news.
LUCILLE: Hello, anus tart.
NARRATOR: And she'd never even seen the license plate.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||05/26/2013|
Most episodes are almost 40 minutes long. That is a hour show on network TV. You just know whoever writes the show reads DL. How can you not love a show that gives a shout out to MST3K?
|by Anonymous||reply 109||05/26/2013|
Michael Cera hasn't always been odd looking... I was re-watching seasons one and two and was surprised at how cute and normal looking he was back then, handsome, even. And Alia was equally darling. It's shocking how young they were when the show started, one thing I noticed is how drastically Alia's voice changed.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||05/26/2013|
Alia grew up really fast. Unlike Cera who's still an man-boy, she looks like an adult woman now.
Also, GOB turning out to be bisexual-ish was amazing, and kind of cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||05/26/2013|
Will Arnett is so incredibly hot in that wedding scene. Beyond.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||05/26/2013|
The Arnett/Stiller bromance was hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||05/26/2013|
I never thought GOB/ Arnett was kinda hot until I saw this. The scene with him and Ben Stiller was well done...
I hope AD beats the hell out that ABC family sitcom at The Emmys...
The Maeby and GOB episodes are classic...
|by Anonymous||reply 114||05/27/2013|
Debris to Liza, Tobias tries to quiet her instead she says 'pills'...
|by Anonymous||reply 115||05/27/2013|
I think she's great as Lindsey but I was completely distracted by Portia de Rossi's new face in her first episode. I hope it gets better with the haircut.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||05/27/2013|
Watched the first two episodes.
There was a smugness to them, as if everyone thought they were being far more clever than they were.
I don't remember the show being so stupid.
And the kids sure grew up ugly.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||05/27/2013|
Is DeBrie Madge from Mad Men?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||05/27/2013|
Alan Tudyk is hot
|by Anonymous||reply 119||05/27/2013|
OMG the CG french kiss reenactment.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||05/27/2013|
Lucille (screaming): "You're a hot mess"!
Buster (screaming): "You're the hot mess"!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 121||05/27/2013|
The supporting actors are getting a surprising amount of screentime.
The Maeby episode was really good. I'd say it's too bad they waited so long for hers, but there were so many tie-ins from earlier episodes, it made it worth the wait.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||05/27/2013|
[quote]I hope AD beats the hell out that ABC family sitcom at The Emmys...[/quote]
Interesting you say that r114, because I realized that Modern Family is the first comedy since Arrested Development's original run that hasn't done an episode yet that doesn't crack me up. I love them both.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||05/27/2013|
Maeby's episode was so great. It reminds me why I've always liked her so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/27/2013|
2/3 of the Funke's are now sex offenders lol
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/27/2013|
It all kind of came together... for anyone who didn't want to stick it out past the first 4 or 5 episodes, keep watching.
Interesting cliffhanger. Have they started working on the movie yet, or is it dependent on the success of this season?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/27/2013|
R108, I literally laughed out loud at that moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/27/2013|
Okay the episodes do get a lot better once you get through the first few. For me, it took until about Episode 7 with the first GOB centric episode. It's probably because it's the first one where more of the characters are brought in.
Although the first few episodes don't work as well because of the change of format (the show works better as an Ensemble), you start to see how everything intertwines together in about episode 6 and it's sort of genius, and makes you appreciate them more for what they are. Just a shame that it takes so long to get you there.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/27/2013|
[quote]Will Arnett is so incredibly hot in that wedding scene. Beyond.
Will has done it for me ever since Season One when he's on the boat in that black swimsuit with his legs slightly spread.. damn he's fucking hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||05/27/2013|
GOB on the boat:
|by Anonymous||reply 130||05/27/2013|
GOB in flip-flops:
|by Anonymous||reply 131||05/27/2013|
This is genius! George Maharis is the name George takes because everyone associates George Michael with his arrests for lewd conduct. He took the name Maharis in part because Maeby kept pronouncing herress with a hard H sound.
Anyway, look at this AND look at the person he was booked with!
|by Anonymous||reply 132||05/27/2013|
Buster as a drone pilot? His episode is a scream. I don't want to watch the last episode will be sad when it is over...
I hope Jessica Walters wins an Emmy...
|by Anonymous||reply 133||05/27/2013|
Nice catch R132. That guy looks like Chris Traeger.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||05/27/2013|
I hate the ending, but I hope that means the movie or season 5 is going to happen. Other than that, it was amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||05/27/2013|
Ugh, up to episode 6 and it's another George Sr. epsiode? This is really a slog.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||05/27/2013|
I love it from the beginning, but I agree with most everyone else, it really start picking up after episode six.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||05/27/2013|
George Michael: I wouldn't put all of my Anns in one basket.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||05/27/2013|
Emmys for Jessica Walters, Will Arnett and Alia Shawkat!
|by Anonymous||reply 139||05/27/2013|
7 episodes in and I quit. Maybe it gets better, but I can't bear watching them try again and again to be funny and failing. It really is more awful than I ever thought it could be, limp and hacky. What a fucking bummer.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||05/27/2013|
I can't get over how bad the hair and makeup is. All the wigs look cheaper than the shit Britney wears on her head and the makeup? Everyone's walking around looking jaundiced.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||05/27/2013|
Isla Fisher is Michael's best love interest. Too bad they don't have many scenes. Even though Isla is almost 40 standing next to George Michael and Maeby they look they same age.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||05/27/2013|
Buster: Is this one of those nights where nothing is as it seems and there's no cream pie for dessert?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||05/27/2013|
Yeah, I think I'm done too r140. It's just not working this time around. Not having the ensemble together is very disappointing. The multiple cameos every five seconds are annoying, and interrupt the flow. The show is not structured in a satisfying way any more. What used to feel smart and sharp now just feels tired and effortful. There are some great lines and a couple of good sight gags, otherwise... Eh.
The media build up and anticipation certainly hasn't helped matters.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||05/27/2013|
I have not seen many episodes but I have a question I hope someone can answer. Why is there SO MUCH voiceover narration? It just feels endless, as if someone were reading aloud while you are watching TV. I find it very annoying and it makes it hard for me to stay with the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||05/27/2013|
It eases up on the narration, which I forgave for necessary exposition but which I also agree was very heavy handed. They even mock it later in the George Michael episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||05/27/2013|
It allows them to get away with not filming as much. They were obviously on a tight budget.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||05/27/2013|
I think part of the issue is that these characters are better in smaller doses, which is why the shorter, ensemble-oriented episodes of season 1-3 worked so well. I also think the new episodes are suffering from the expanded geography. I liked the narrow world of seasons 1-3: the penthouse, the office, the model home, Wee Britain, the banana stand, etc.
That said, it's still good. I remember feeling a little letdown down by season 2 but found it improved upon re-watching. Hope the same happens with the new episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||05/27/2013|
Because Hollywood kisses Ron howard's ass? Because the plot is very complicated?
I didn't really notice too much narration I'm just glad its back.. Bothers me a little it is the one of the greatest ensemble shows of all time and this ISN'T an ensemble. Also Michael was always the heart of the show who held everything together but Jason Bateman was probably filming Identity Theft instead of being the star of season 4. Also bothers me sweet George Michael is no longer so...
Still I'm glad its back and hope for more...
|by Anonymous||reply 149||05/27/2013|
The last scene is incredible.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||05/27/2013|
The gripes are starting to roll in. After weeks of insane adulation, the Times says that Arrested Development is DOA.
I could have written this article myself.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||05/27/2013|
Most of the "reviews" I have read have been written by people too lazy to watch the whole season before writing their article. No wonder they keep saying negative things, if you wrote a review about half the movie, you'd have negative feelings about it too.
This isn't network TV, it's a whole different animal, and it shouldn't be reviewed in the same process as network TV. Season 4 is meant to be one eight hour(ish) whole.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||05/27/2013|
Except that we're talking about eight episodes of unexceptional tv, r152. Four plus hours. A lot of shows would have been unceremoniously cancelled before that. The critics and watchers are giving it more of a chance because of its pedigree.
Are you telling me that I'm supposed to watch nine hours of a comedy to its very last scene before it finally becomes funny? That's fucking ridiculous. Who has that kind of time to waste?
The first season of this show was funny right out of the gate, and remained fairly consistently so (with some exceptions) for two more seasons. That's why people wanted more of it in the first place.
The fact is, they restructured how the show functioned because the cast was not available, and the ensemble suffered. The writing has not been nearly as sharp. The actors are uninspired and it shows. It's lost its groove and should have stayed what it was: a fun show to visit in reruns.
So far, Netflix is one for three. House of Cards has been their only success.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||05/27/2013|
Hemlock Grove was more watched than House of Cards and Arrested Development is already more watched than both of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||05/27/2013|
[quote] A lot of shows would have been unceremoniously cancelled before that.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: but it's NOT NORMAL TV. They knew they wouldn't be cancelled halfway through a season, so they did not write to network tv's conventions.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||05/27/2013|
[quote]I've said it before, and I'll say it again: but it's NOT NORMAL TV. They knew they wouldn't be cancelled halfway through a season, so they did not write to network tv's conventions.
Yeah, but they should have. You don't resuscitate a cult hit and change its formatting and what made it work, and expect not to get backlash.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||05/27/2013|
There's hardly a backlash. Some people like it, some people don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||05/27/2013|
[quote]There's hardly a backlash.
Really? Have you not been paying attention?
|by Anonymous||reply 158||05/27/2013|
Despite the flaws I enjoyed AD AND Hemlock Grove much more than House of Cards. The critics aren't always right...
|by Anonymous||reply 159||05/27/2013|
[quote]Really? Have you not been paying attention?
Yes, which is how I know. Like I said, some people like it, some don't. There's no overwhelming consensus in either direction, but if you read the threads on IMDB a slight majority really enjoyed it, though acknowledge the flaws.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||05/27/2013|
Yeah the NY Times saying that Netflix killed the series isn't backlash at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||05/27/2013|
No. It's not. It's one opinion. One opinion does not equal a backlash, especially when the majority are able to recognize that just because something isn't flawless, doesn't mean it's terrible. As more and more people finish the season, you can see the tide turning and more people are enjoying it.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||05/27/2013|
[quote]This isn't network TV, it's a whole different animal, and it shouldn't be reviewed in the same process as network TV. Season 4 is meant to be one eight hour(ish) whole.
I don't think this can be over-stated.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||05/27/2013|
The NY Times article isn't just one opinion, it's an opinion that is saying the same thing as countless other people have.
Youre completely ignoring the tons of people who have stated they don't like it and who have complained that they're not bothering past 5 episodes. Even in this thread alone, people have said that the way they changed the format sucks.
Are there a lot of people who like it? Yeah. Are there a lot of people who don't? Yup. And that is backlash, like it or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||05/27/2013|
I just now got George's joke when he meets Oscar at the club and says "I'm going to sit opposite you so it won't look bad." Lol
|by Anonymous||reply 165||05/27/2013|
I think the point is that something shouldn't take five hours to get through before it gets enjoyable.
I'm one of the ones that didn't think it picked up until Episode 7. At the end of it, did I enjoy it? It's a toss up. I can certainly appreciate what it did, but I can also say that I think it was executed poorly and they could have developed it better.
Is it as good as the original first three seasons? Not even close. Should they have even bothered releasing it now if they couldn't match the original series or do it the way the original was done? Debatable.
Ultimately, to me, it seems like they just released it because they could and rushed into it to capitalize on an audience wanting the series to come back.
It seems thrown together and sloppy. Not only does the format not line up with the previous seasons, neither do a lot of the characters. Half the actors don't even really seem to be into it.
Like I said, I can appreciate it more now that I've gotten to the end of Season 4... but I can certainly see why people would be frustrated and don't like it and/or couldn't get through the first few episodes. And there are more than a handful who felt that way. I haven't even seen much praise for Season 4, but I've seen a lot of underwhelmed responses to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||05/27/2013|
Thought the first few episodes were good, not great. But the last handful of episodes, as it starts collapsing in on itself, are brilliant. Payoff after payoff after amazing payoff.
I'm glad they tried something different. They could never have recreated the AD from 2003-2006, partly because the kind of TV that AD created has been imitated to death. They took a step in a new, strange direction. There would have been backlash no matter what.
If it wasn't underappreciated at first, it wouldn't be Arrested Development.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||05/27/2013|
"Arrested Development disappointed" is the first search result on Twitter. It autofills to that phrase. People aren't happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||05/27/2013|
Just watched the last episode and loved it. I have seen the plot of the mother/daughter father/son dating the same person done on every soap opera but how it ended surprised me. I hope the haters don't win and we see more...
GOB told Cera to his face you are not the most handsome guy in the world...
The camera does not love Brian Grazer...
|by Anonymous||reply 169||05/27/2013|
I haven't read a single good review. Since they refused to release any episodes to critics, the reviews are now coming in and they are almost uniformly in agreement that the format change has destroyed the show.
Everyone is reluctant to say it, but Arrested Development season 4 SUCKS.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||05/28/2013|
When you rely on reviews to form your opinions, you should be disappointed.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||05/28/2013|
I watched six episodes before I read any reviews, but thanks for playing.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||05/28/2013|
I don't think it sucks. It's just not as good as the original.
I also agree that you shouldn't have to watch half a series before it all comes together. That's like asking movie-goes to get the DVD with the extras because that explains everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||05/28/2013|
[bold] Netflix stock sinks on mixed reviews of 'Arrested' [/bold]
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The hoopla surrounding the return of "Arrested Development" on Netflix's Internet video service has dissolved into a letdown on Wall Street.
Netflix's stock fell more than 6 percent Tuesday as investors reacted to critics' mixed reviews of the first new "Arrested Development" episodes since the Fox broadcast network canceled the series seven years ago.
Netflix Inc. released all 15 episodes of the resurrected "Arrested Development" at the same time early Sunday.
Analysts insist it's still too early to tell whether "Arrested Development" will be a hit or a flop.
Netflix had 29.2 million U.S. subscribers in March. The Los Gatos, Calif., company is hoping positive buzz about "Arrested Development" will help add as many as 880,000 more customers by the end of June.
The stock closed at $214.19, down $14.55.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||05/28/2013|
How can this be considered for Emmy? Is Netflix considered television or is this wishful thinking?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||05/28/2013|
I just got my Netflix Emmy screener package today. It was a full set of House of Cards on DVD, and a voucher code to watch Arrested Development online for free. Take that as you will.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||05/28/2013|
The second Lindsay and Tobias episodes were painfully unfunny. The Lucille episode was the closest to being the old AD, but even that didn't past muster. There are too many new actors and characters as they try to pad out the episodes. The DeBrie character is particularly awful and unwatchable.
Michael Cera hasn't appeared for eight episodes. Why did they even do this?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||05/28/2013|
The guest actress playing Debrie deserves a Emmy for that performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||05/28/2013|
Debrie is fabulous!
|by Anonymous||reply 179||05/28/2013|
Ann: How did you like your egg?
GOB: I said you were fine!
|by Anonymous||reply 180||05/28/2013|
I didn't realize, until I just started Googling, that Perfecto Telles (the name of Maeby's cutie-pie boyfriend) was a real person who was arrested with the real George Maharis in 1974. I love you, Arrested Development.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||05/28/2013|
Yeah, you haters are ridiculous. The Tony Wonder/GOB episode is probably the best of the series. Episodes 8-14 are brilliant. It is a bummer that it takes so long to get going, but it's more than worth it. Maria Bamford is the best guest star and Maeby, Lucille, GOB, and Tobias are all brilliant.
Also House of Cards never went anywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||05/28/2013|
[quote]When you rely on reviews to form your opinions, you should be disappointed.
Pretty sure no one said they formed their opinion based on reviews... only that it confirmed that a lot of people don't like the new season.
Reading comprehension should be required before some of you are allowed to post.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||05/29/2013|
R183 ... Yawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||05/29/2013|
Just realized that not only are you the one with the poor reading comprehension but you're also the one that didn't initially get the, "I'm going to sit opposite you so it won't look bad" joke.
It all makes sense now.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||05/29/2013|
I repeat, Yawn.
I feel bad for those not enjoying the fourth season. I understand it, though. It's a very different format. And this is definitely the WORST season of Arrested Development. But at it's worst, it's still better than most shows on TV ( Louie is better), and I'm still enjoying the hell out of it. Yes, there are a lot of jokes I missed the first time around, but that just adds to the rewatch ability factor that AD has always had.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||05/29/2013|
I enjoy it also - the first 2-3 episodes (around George Sr) weren't the best - but the later ones were wonderful and funny.
I just wish they did more scenes were all the family were together - those were the best in the earlier episodes.
Oh and Will Arnett is looking very good!
|by Anonymous||reply 187||05/29/2013|
[quote]you're also the one that didn't initially get the, "I'm going to sit opposite you so it won't look bad" joke. It all makes sense now.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||05/29/2013|
R186 is going to turn this into a yawn fest. Just like most of Season 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||05/29/2013|
[quote]you're also the one that didn't initially get the, "I'm going to sit opposite you so it won't look bad" joke. It all makes sense now.
Well, the really meta stuff tends to fly over my head on first viewing.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||05/29/2013|
The episodes get better after Episode 6 because that's when they start integrating more of the cast members, making it more like the original formula of the show.
I agree with others that say you shouldn't have to wait 6 episodes for something to get funny. Most of you wouldn't sit through a 3 hour movie if it sucked for the first hour and a half.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||05/29/2013|
ok - i didn't get the joke - please explain for someone that is dense!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||05/29/2013|
R193, it's the same actor playing both roles. So he was saying he was going to sit across the table and not next to him so it "wouldn't look bad". If they're next to each other they'd have to superimpose it.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||05/29/2013|
I can't express how much I loathed the George Michael episodes. The Buster episode was also pretty terrible. The ending was truly dreadful and tasteless.
I'm going to pretend this disastrous season never happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||05/30/2013|
The numbers are fantastic, and Netflix is asking for a fifth season. But I think they want to do a movie? Not sure how that will work.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||05/30/2013|
I thought the idea was this season would lead up to a movie, which accounts for the cliffhanger. Does anyone know what the deal is with that?
|by Anonymous||reply 196||05/30/2013|
I don't think they should do a movie. The rhythm and look of the show are very TV. And people complained these episodes were too long at 28-35 minutes -- how will they feel watching 90-120 minutes in a row?
|by Anonymous||reply 197||05/30/2013|
I thought it was kind of odd that Ann was involved but interacted only with GOB and not all with George Michael. Though the stuff about their failed wedding was hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||05/30/2013|
Well, no one knows what the "numbers" are because Netflix doesn't discuss them, and they base their evaluation on whether they sign up new subscribers. Whether those new subscribers will actually stick around after gorging themselves is not foreseeable, and probably unlikely.
What is known is that critically it was a failure, and creatively it has received a lot of blowback. Getting another season together will most likely not happen. The actors could barely be mustered for this go around to the extreme detriment of the ensemble, and no one successful wants to be the subject of such harsh criticism when they don't need to be, considering they were paid nothing.
A movie is more likely, but I still think doubtful, and a very hard sell after the reception of this season. A studio would insist the tone and structure change, and for once I would agree.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||05/31/2013|
Loved it - seems to me that Season 4 is pioneering "epic" comedy with its structure and that's just fine with me...
|by Anonymous||reply 200||05/31/2013|
[quote]What is known is that critically it was a failure, and creatively it has received a lot of blowback. Getting another season together will most likely not happen.
Wrong. So very wrong. Plus, while recognizing its bit as good, fans are loving this season.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||05/31/2013|
People forget that the storytelling of the first 3 seasons of AD on network TV was very different for those times and most people watched the other TV shows.
It took many years for audiences to catch up and enjoy AD. The same will happen with the groundbreaking season 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||05/31/2013|
I watched Buster episode again last night. The bit with Buster stuffing Lucille's clothes to make a doll and making her "breakfast" was hilarious and incredibly cringe worthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||05/31/2013|
In the end, I really enjoyed it and am glad they made it.
I actually prefer this season over season 3, which I think was their weakest. I never enjoyed any of the Rita/ Mr. F stuff, or the Iraq subplot.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||05/31/2013|
I loved it when Buster thought it was a video game when they made him a drone pilot...
|by Anonymous||reply 205||05/31/2013|
I'm guessing Gob is the top and Tony Wonder is the bottom. Yes?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||05/31/2013|
Tony Wonder was shaving his legs and wearing toneail polish to play the "bottom half" of the legs in the sawing in half trick, so I think he was indeed the bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||05/31/2013|
I finished the season and like others have said, there are some great paybacks for earlier bits. I am thinking in particular about the George Michael living sitation toward the end. I still don't know if that's the best way to structure a TV series but it is what it is. I hope they can do another season and get everyone together this time.
What were your favorite episodes? I liked the Lucille and Buster episodes the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||06/01/2013|
Lucille, Maeby, Buster, and the 2nd Gob and Tobias episodes were the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||06/01/2013|
The Maeby, Lucille, Gob , Buster and first George Michael episodes are my favorite.
Did George Michael get Marta pregnant?
"Make me cry!" " You're a terrible mother."
|by Anonymous||reply 210||06/01/2013|
"I'm here! I'm queer! And now I'm over here!"
|by Anonymous||reply 211||06/01/2013|
R211, I also liked this variation:
"I'm here! I'm queer! And now I'm in a chair!"
|by Anonymous||reply 212||06/01/2013|
Not even close to being funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||06/01/2013|
I know of two friends who binge watched the 4th season.
One friend loved it, the other said he hated it and that it was "boring and confusing".
Out of curiosity I asked each what some of their favorite TV shows were.
The guy who loved it likes: Louie, Breaking Bad, Parks and Recreation.
The guy who hated it likes: Breaking Bad, The Big Bang Theory and Revolution.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||06/01/2013|
Anyone with a pulse should like Breaking Bad...
|by Anonymous||reply 215||06/01/2013|
I'm loving the homoeroticism of this season, especially the incestuous undertones.
Michael getting into the shower with George Michael and commenting that they're twins and to 'name one thing about us that is different' (which feels vaguely like he's talking about their cocks since he says it as he hops into a naked shower with his son).
I hope Bateman got to tap Cera's ass at least once during AD.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||06/02/2013|
Uncle GOB gets in on the action too, sucking George Michael's finger then kissing him on the mouth. I smell a threesome!
|by Anonymous||reply 217||06/02/2013|
"And I get to kiss him hard on the mouth."
Maybe Jason has tapped that after all?
|by Anonymous||reply 218||06/02/2013|
"Distractingly high-cut shorts..."
|by Anonymous||reply 219||06/02/2013|
Ooh, I just got why Herbert Love's campaign manager was always holding a cigarette.
And that's why AD, even in this weaker Season 4, is still better than almost anything else out there.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||06/02/2013|
I just finished binge watching. I thought it was amazing and a great season. I love the way it all comes together at the end. It was brilliant. Kudos. The two standout episodes for me were both Tobias-centric, but I enjoyed them all.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||06/02/2013|
I loved all of season 4, more than any of the other seasons in fact. Amazing how they fit the Byzantine storyline together like an intricate 3D jigsaw puzzle. I'm going to watch it again to pick up on some of the little things I may have missed the first time around. Initially I didn't recognize Portia de Rossi at all and actually believed that they'd hired a different actress to play her role. She looked more like herself once she cropped her hair short, however.
The GOB/Tony Wonder relationship was funny but I didn't think much of it having any real meaning because the Narrator said something like "they had feelings for each other that neither had ever felt before...it was friendship" and the whole gay sex thing was passed off more as an act that the characters were willing to do only because it offered them the opportunity to fuck themselves (since they were wearing masks of the other person). But then I was listening to the Mitch Hurwitz interview on NPR and he said that one of the characters seemed to be discovering that he may in fact be gay, so that got my hopes up that GOB and Tony may continue their relationship in the next season and/or movie.
Did anyone else think that P-Hound looks like an Asian version of Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
|by Anonymous||reply 222||06/05/2013|
3 perfect things:
|by Anonymous||reply 223||06/05/2013|
I slogged through them all, and I agree with whoever said that there was too much Ron Howard. It was like he was reading you a story in some of the episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||06/05/2013|
Maeby is both beautiful and unusual looking.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||08/17/2013|
I was a late bloomer with this show. Caught it from the beginning on Netflix. I actually preferred binging on Season 4 than the previous seasons. Loved the way the fourth season was structured to reveal the story in pieces from different character perspectives.
Is it coming back for a 5th season?
|by Anonymous||reply 226||11/08/2013|