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The Best Film at Cannes Is the French, Lesbian Answer to Brokeback Mountain (thread by request)

Blue Is the Warmest Color features long, graphic sex scenes that are crucial in establishing the all-consuming physical passion that is the foundation of the bond between Adèle and Emma (what U.S. distributors will do with all the full-frontal flesh, saliva, spanking, and panting is anybody's guess). But though it instantly joins works like Ang Lee's Brokeback Mountain on the too-short list of great big-screen same-sex romances, the movie adds up to much more than a lesbian love story; by the time it reaches its quietly devastating, though hopeful, final shot, Kechiche's film has become a map of the human soul.

by Anonymousreply 8209/29/2013

Should have called it "Processing Valley".

by Anonymousreply 105/24/2013

So is anything that is lesbian going to have to be called "lesbian BBM"? BBM was a horrible movie.

by Anonymousreply 205/24/2013

What I thought worked with BBM is that it was a very mainstream film, telling a story about two men in love without giving it any special treatment. You know, indie or artsy.

[quote]and I bet they're bi-girls

You mean the characters? Not according to the reviews.

by Anonymousreply 305/24/2013

...of course, Brokeback Mountain didn't have any lingering scenes of raw sexuality to speak of.

There's always that double-standard in the portrayal of male vs. female homosexuality in mainstream(ish) movies.

by Anonymousreply 405/24/2013

We need good movies, as we know Hollywood doesnt give any lol

by Anonymousreply 505/24/2013

Actually, BBM didn't have very explicit sex scenes.. because Hollywood is strangely homophobic. Lesbian sex scenes however are a lot less controversial, and it sells movies because of all the horny men out there. Gay themed movies still struggle to get funding, like the whole controversy around I Love You Phillip Morris. While lesbians movies get made without question. I'm sick of the homophobic society. It's all about what gets straight men off, cause they're the ones with the money.. lesbians do, while gay men sadly don't.

by Anonymousreply 605/24/2013

"While lesbians movies get made without question."

I don't think more lesbian movies (non porn) get made than gay movies.

by Anonymousreply 705/24/2013

[quote]While lesbians movies get made without question. I'm sick of the homophobic society

I disagree with your first sentence but agree with the second. The biggest issue facing both types of movies is that they're put into the gay ghetto. BBM was able to break through to the mainstream and critics seem to be saying that although this movie does have explicit sex scenes, it's not exactly a lesbian movie. It's a coming of age story that happens to be about a young lesbian. In other words, it doesn't belong in a lesbian ghetto. Of course, this won't go mainstream here because it's a foreign movie.

by Anonymousreply 805/24/2013

It won!!!!

It's really disturbing to me how little this movie was mentioned in the mainstream American press.

I wonder why...??

by Anonymousreply 905/26/2013

^ AP, Reuters, Guardian, Chicago Tribune have already picked it up.

by Anonymousreply 1005/26/2013

This sounds fantastic.

I was also reading in the BBC link about it that Oscar Isaac is meant to be great in Inside Llewyn Davis which came second to this at Cannes.

Colour me excited.. Oscar Isaac is so hot. And this lezzie drama sounds super intriguing.

by Anonymousreply 1105/26/2013

But will there be scissoring?

by Anonymousreply 1205/26/2013

OP's linked article got me interested in this film until the writer put Brokeback Mountain up on a pedestal.

by Anonymousreply 1305/26/2013

They should have named it Rochelle Rochelle.

by Anonymousreply 1405/26/2013

Why is R-o-c-h-e-l-l-e censored?

by Anonymousreply 1505/26/2013

R9, I meant BEFORE it won.

I read the list of the five "top contenders" in Time magazine earlier today, and it wasn't even mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 1605/26/2013

I'm sorry -- I meant R10.

by Anonymousreply 1705/26/2013

Yes, there will be r12.

by Anonymousreply 1805/26/2013

Dark horse

by Anonymousreply 1905/26/2013

I'm confused. Home Depot's color is not Orange in France? It's Blue?

by Anonymousreply 2005/26/2013

Nicole Kidman was on the jury

by Anonymousreply 2105/26/2013

The movie has an almost 3hr running time. In order to get a theatrical release they will need to get it down to at least 2.5hrs and release a "Director's Cut" on DVD and VOD

by Anonymousreply 2205/26/2013

[quote]Nicole Kidman was on the jury

So was Joey Luft, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 2305/26/2013

I'm confused. We've already been told on DL by a person who is completely NOT connected with the Liberace movie that it is the best thing at Cannes and is going to win EVERYTHING at Cannes including Best Actor. Now I'm being told that is possibly not true? Well...hmmmmmmm

by Anonymousreply 2405/26/2013

Is this a softball remake of Field of Dreams?

by Anonymousreply 2505/26/2013

R8, WRONG. Movies with explicit lesbian sex scenes are made every year. Movies with explicit gay sex scenes are boycotted (see ILYPM).

I will never expect lesbians to understand the homophobia in Hollywood, because lesbians are accepted in movies.. gays are not. Just look at how many lesbian movies have been made the last few years. They get raving reviews because they actually see the light of day. Gay movies do not. There's been so many lesbian movies lately, I've lost count. Most lesbian movies are approved and funded by the big studios. Just look at Black Swan and The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. If those movies were gay themed instead of lesbian themed, they never would have seen the light of day. Wonderful gay movies struggle to get funding, and constantly have to beg for money from the audience (i.e. kickstarter campaigns etc). When is the last time a lesbian movie begged for money? Oh right.. that has never happened.

You have no idea what you're talking about, R18. It's all about what get straight men off, because straight men are the ones with all the money... which means lesbian movies get made, while gay movies struggle to get funding. It's not even about the money.. it's about the controversy surrounding gay sex vs lesbian sex. A sexually explicit gay movie was recently BANNED in Australia. James Franco had to defend the movie in the media. The movie at Cannes also has explicit sex scenes, but since they're lesbian sex scenes, they're accepted. You know I'm right.

by Anonymousreply 2605/26/2013

Just to add to what I said above.. Behind The Candelabra is another example of a gay themed movie that struggled to get funding, because it was "too sexually explicit". All the Hollywood Studios turned it down, while HBO actually had the guts to go through with it. They deserve so much credit for making this movie.

by Anonymousreply 2705/26/2013

[quote]Dark horse

There were rave reviews for the film when it screened, which is why I asked OP to create a thread.

I wouldn't call it a dark horse.

And I really hate that it will most likely be trimmed in order to play in theaters.

by Anonymousreply 2805/26/2013

So glad to see Bruce Dern winning best actor! I thought he was do hot in his prime in that wild,dangerous way! Do you guys think he may be the frontrunner for next years Oscar?

by Anonymousreply 2905/26/2013

R28, the Guardian correspondent wrote:

[quote]While the winners in 2011 (Terrence Malick's The Tree of Life) and 2012 (Michael Haneke's Amour) went into the festivals as favourites, only the canniest could have foreseen a victory for Kechiche.

by Anonymousreply 3005/26/2013

From the Guardian review:

[quote]The darker phase of their relationship (presumably the second "chapter" of the title) is painful and there is ultimately much crying, and this looks every bit as passionate and real and un-Hollywood as the sex. [bold]I can't imagine Jessica Chastain or Anne Hathaway ever doing the brutally authentic tears-mingling-with-snot look the way Adèle Exarchopoulos does it.[/bold]

I don't know if it's American actors, but I imagine not that many American directors would ask their actresses to bare it all.

A nice dig at Chastain and Hathaway, nevertheless.

by Anonymousreply 3105/26/2013

Well, R30, then the reviewer for the Atlantic is very canny. The thread title is from his review of the film.

by Anonymousreply 3205/26/2013

R14, R15, A mentally ill abuser used to post ridiculous and bizarre rants using someone else's name. Webbie, after repeated urgent requests, finally deleted all posts with that same name.

by Anonymousreply 3305/26/2013

I thought she was a Swiss pharmaceutical company.

by Anonymousreply 3405/26/2013

Neither Black Swan nor Girl with the Dragon Tattoo are lesbian themed movies.

by Anonymousreply 3505/26/2013

Film critics singling out Blue is the warmest colour as the favorite of the festival:

by Anonymousreply 3605/26/2013

The film will probably get passed with a PG-13 rating. The MPAA (which is full of dirty old straight men) is only concerned with male nudity and male-on-male sex.

by Anonymousreply 3705/26/2013

can't wait to see this one.

by Anonymousreply 3805/26/2013

As a lesbian,dyke, queer girl I 100% agree that male sexuality and M/M relationships are censored and their stories are underfunded by Hollywood. That stated, why on earth do commenters like [R8] feel the need to put down lesbians and a film, that reviewers are hailing as a film that is more about characters than their sexuality??? Should I start hating all men because they typically get paid more the same job women do? No that's idiotic. Should I bitch and moan about how HBO is producing a new series around gay men and they aren't doing a similar one for lesbians?? Nope, and I'll be watching that show if it's good. Queer as Folk ran as both an English and American versions, what did we(dyke-bots) get?? Shitty Lword, should I start crying that HBO likes gay men and not lesbians?? It is getting better, but the truth is that creating an excellent film/tv show is difficult. It's even more difficult to get funding when execs have the viewpoint of appealing the the most general mass audience possible. They don't care about social issues or even quality of material. They care about making $$$. Just ask the African-American community how well represented they are in getting films financed where all the characters are black. Not naive, not all gay men are supportive of lesbians and vice-versa, but they way to get more glbt films made is for all of us to support work we believe in, and stop knocking each other down for no reason.

by Anonymousreply 3905/26/2013

For the foreseeable, nearly all representations of gay men in mainstream movies will be Oscar-baity "nobly suffering homosexual" played by a "serious" straight movie star whose bravery at kissing another "serious" up-and-coming straight movie actor for 12 seconds will be much commented on, guy who makes Vince Vaughn nervous and bitchy waiter.

For the foreseeable future, nearly all representations of lesbians in mainstream movies will involve the prettier one turning hetero (or giving it the good old college try.)

Same as it ever was.

Exciting new ground might be broken by the occasional gay villain (humanized slightly because being gay has made him understandably bitter about life) and lesbian computer expert (because we all know there are too many asian men on screen these days.)

by Anonymousreply 4005/26/2013

There is no such thing as a lesbian in movies or tv they're always bisexuals. I have no interest in seeing this shit. The two chicks in it are gross.

by Anonymousreply 4105/26/2013

[quote]For the foreseeable future, nearly all representations of lesbians in mainstream movies will involve the prettier one turning hetero (or giving it the good old college try.)

Exactly. What's the point.

by Anonymousreply 4205/26/2013

[quote]Behind The Candelabra is another example of a gay themed movie that struggled to get funding, because it was "too sexually explicit"

Complete bullshit. This movie has virtually NO gay sex. Douglas ain't doing it and neither is Damon. Does not happen. Of course Hollywood's idea of "too sexually explicit" when it comes to gays is 2 men kissing briefly. But don't take my word for it. Here's a reviewer's opinion:

[quote]The sex scenes are not especially graphic,

by Anonymousreply 4305/26/2013

As a gay man is kind of bittersweet to see that M/M films don't get the same respect. "I Love You Phillip Morris", "Behind The Candelabra"..etc.

However,I couldn't be more happy for "Blue Is The Warmest Color"! Especially after all the protests done by the homophobic French conservatives. Hehe Poetic justice I would say.

I say rock on girls. I hope you movie makes it all the way to the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 4405/26/2013

r44: a big part of the response the movie is getting is based on young pretty girls doing explicit nude scenes. It not really about lesbian acceptance beyond the hetero male sex fantasy.

by Anonymousreply 4505/26/2013

[quote][R44]: a big part of the response the movie is getting is based on young pretty girls doing explicit nude scenes.

Link, please.

by Anonymousreply 4605/26/2013

If you think that straight men ogling two lesbians having sex is equivalent to lesbians being accepted by society, you are solely mistaken.

by Anonymousreply 4705/26/2013

Since this film shows sexual acts involving a character aged 15, how will they get it past the US child porn regulations. Won't they have to cut out all of the sex scenes?

by Anonymousreply 4805/27/2013

hbo makes girls with that lesbian lena dunham

by Anonymousreply 4905/27/2013

brokeback mountain won venice

by Anonymousreply 5005/27/2013

Rochelle is censored? Why?

by Anonymousreply 5105/27/2013

At r51, I typed Roch Elle as one word and it appeared as Rochelle. Anyone know why?

by Anonymousreply 5205/27/2013

Several months ago I sort of got an explanation for that censorship, r51/r52.

Someone who uses the screen name D-a-v-i-d-a R-o-c-h-e-l-l-e explained that (s)he had previously experienced so much negative feedback and slander on DL that (s)he got the webmaster to set the board to edit the name to what you saw.

Now I don't know anything about that person, or the history of trouble on the site, or even if he/she actually exists. But apparently that's the reason that both that first name and last name will be auto-corrected to hyphens surrounded by brackets.

As with all other instances of censorship on this board, they are seemingly arbitrary unless you happen across somebody that can remember and explanation.

by Anonymousreply 5305/27/2013


by Anonymousreply 5405/27/2013

R53, I do exist and have been regularly starting threads and posting daily and anonymously. An insane nutcase with serious deep seated anger and a history of threats and violence to many different girls, according to the police, was using my name to continually post crazy rants. The only way to stop this non-stop abuse of my name, since authenticating did not work, was to repeatedly beg Webbie to delete and permanently ban all references using any variation of my name.

I am very sympathetic to other ladies and posters seeking legit advice that have been constantly harassed or have received nasty and abusive comments. I wish we could all ban together to stop bullying of everyone regardless of age, sex, race, nationality, sexual orientation, looks, etc, etc, etc.

by Anonymousreply 5505/27/2013

All I keep hearing is the sex is "explicit". yet there was a male gay film in contention that they called hardcore. What's the difference if the girls had real sex on screen it's hardcore.. The highest prize, The Palme d'Or is given to the director of the best film but Spielberg insisted on giving it to the two stars also, unprecedented. And if you can be awarded The Palme d'Or for having real sex on screen, Kris Jenner is breaking out the video camera as we speak.

by Anonymousreply 5605/27/2013

r6 You are wrong. There are more gay male movies than lesbian movies. Same is true with TV. The difference is that the sex scenes are more neutered with gay male characters than lesbian characters. But there are more gay men on TV and in the movies by a long shot.

by Anonymousreply 5705/27/2013

agree with R45 - that's what it's really about

by Anonymousreply 5805/27/2013

r40 Perfect Post!

by Anonymousreply 5905/27/2013

So does this movie end with one of the women in a heterosexual relationship?

by Anonymousreply 6005/27/2013

So did they really have sex with each other during the filming?

by Anonymousreply 6105/27/2013

I'd love to know. But I vaguely remember reading that it was not unsimulated.

R60, The lesbian grew less passionate and the young one cheated with a male. But she didn' t end up in a heterosexual relationship, still loved the older lesbian who moved on.

by Anonymousreply 6205/27/2013

Someone google to find out the kind of graphic things that were in the movie, and whether or not this was real sex.

To me, it sounds like a French porn film just won the top prize at Cannes!

by Anonymousreply 6305/27/2013

Thanks, r62.

Why do they always cheat with a man? Why can't film makers ever depict a lesbian cheating with another woman?? It's mind-boggling to me.

by Anonymousreply 6405/27/2013

Extra drama, R64.

by Anonymousreply 6505/27/2013

I think the director is related to Salim Kechiche, the amazingly hot actor from Three Dancing Slaves and The String.

by Anonymousreply 6605/27/2013

r64: to appeal to the straight male audience.

by Anonymousreply 6705/27/2013

Because everyone knows that men and women belong together, r64, even filmmakers. The character was just yearning for her normal, natural self to emerge from the darkness.

by Anonymousreply 6805/27/2013

R64: I know! Anyway in this film, the younger girl was not a lesbian until meeting the older girl, so hooking up with a man must've been familiar and easier for one time thing.

by Anonymousreply 6905/27/2013

The shoot for this movie as it was experienced by the technicians

by Anonymousreply 7005/28/2013

[quote]Why do they always cheat with a man?

For straight audiences. For straight men. Long sex scenes...directed by a man...doesn't sound promising to me...

by Anonymousreply 7105/28/2013

Buy the original comic instead. Written by a lesbian, and the sex scene is quite, quite different (the author was uncomfortable watching that part of the movie, so that should tell you a lot)

by Anonymousreply 7205/28/2013

The English version from that post - the author's take on the film adaptation of her graphic novel

by Anonymousreply 7305/28/2013

Why is it the typical femme/butch pairing with the bisexual being femme and the lesbian being butch? Puts me off seing it.

by Anonymousreply 7405/28/2013

R66, one is called Salim Kechiouche and has origins in Algeria the other is called Abdellatif Kechiche and has origins in Tunisia.

by Anonymousreply 7505/28/2013

Thanks for the link, R72, R73

She says (and this does not sound good at all):

"It appears to me that this was missing on the set: lesbians. I do not know the sources of information for the director and actors (who are all straight, unless proven otherwise), and I was not been consulted upstream. Maybe someone was there to awkwardly imitate the possible positions with their hands, and/or to show them some porn of so-called "lesbians"(unfortunately it is hardly ever actually for a lesbian audience). Because - except for a few passages - that's what it brings to mind: a brutal and surgical display, exhuberant and cold of so-called lesbian sex, which turned into porn, and made me feel very ill at ease. Especially when, in the middle of a movie theater, everyone giggles. The heteronormative laughed because they do not understand and find the scene ridiculous. The gays and queer people laugh because it's not convincing at all and they find it ridiculous. And among the few we do not hear laughing are guys who are too busy feasting their eyes on the incarnation of their fantasies on screen."

So if there are gay guys angry on this thread that lesbians get movies and gay guys don't - the truth is neither gay guys or lesbians get films. This is another "lesbian" film served up for a straight male audience. Nothing for lesbians here.

by Anonymousreply 7605/28/2013

Wouldn't you wait to judge it until you've actually seen it, R76?

by Anonymousreply 7705/28/2013

This tumblr needs to be re-posted. This was what the shoot was like, according to a large part of the crew

by Anonymousreply 7805/28/2013

Doesn't sound like a happy set, R78

by Anonymousreply 7905/28/2013

Well, I didn't want to see The Kids are Alright from what I read, and refused to see it. Then, after years passed, I finally watched it - and regretted doing so. So maybe I will skip this one, too.

by Anonymousreply 8005/28/2013

[quote]lesbians are accepted in movies.. gays are not.

Idiotic, highly inaccurate claim.

So...there goes any hope of a thread about New Rochelle, New York?

by Anonymousreply 8105/28/2013

I had a chance to see this movie today, maybe I suffer from a congenital lack of taste in movies or maybe i "just didn't get it" but I 0 didn't like it. Oral scenes were unsimulated. The fingering? I don't know. Clearly someone in charge saw something they like in it and it will be huge amongst the hipsters but it was just too long and too "french" for me. Half of the movie can be edited out. Towards the middle the story flows faster but soon it goes back to snail speed frustration.

by Anonymousreply 8209/29/2013
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