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Blue is The Warmest Color, started by request, (highly regarded Fr. lezzie-themed film)

What makes it so hot?

by Anonymousreply 8603/11/2014

I like blue.

by Anonymousreply 105/24/2013

Did someone mention blue?

by Anonymousreply 205/24/2013

From what I'm understanding in reading reviews, this movie is just a porn made by a horny and pervy straight guy. It's pretty much same story lesbians get all the time. Young woman coming to terms with sexuality, sleep with guy, falls in love with woman, few years pass and loves starts to fade, one of them starts eyeing a man again. It seems to be same 'o crap that says lesbianism isnt real and that we all hate labels for that reason. No wonder straight male reviewers are going crazy for it.

by Anonymousreply 305/24/2013

OP, I think it's the 10-minute very realistic sex scene between the actresses.

by Anonymousreply 405/25/2013

yeah, some reviews says it just looks real. others say that it is unsimulated. and i think one said it looks like part might real sex others are simulated. im willing to see the movie as soon as we can. but i do hope it's not just the straight guy fantasy that all women are sexually fluid and one character does end up with a man. im kinda waiting for lesbian magazines to review it. so far everything i read is by straight male critics.

by Anonymousreply 505/25/2013

yeah, some reviews says it just looks real. others say that it is unsimulated. and i think one said it looks like part might real sex others are simulated. im willing to see the movie as soon as we can. but i do hope it's not just the straight guy fantasy that all women are sexually fluid and one character does end up with a man. im kinda waiting for lesbian magazines to review it. so far everything i read is by straight male critics.

by Anonymousreply 605/25/2013

R6 I also heard the 10 minute sex scene was not simulated. I wonder how it was filmed.

by Anonymousreply 705/25/2013

I went to awards daily's twitter and now I'm really starting to think this movie is just some male lesbian fantasy porn made by a dirty old man. A writer for Entertainment Weekly pointed out (Mark Harris) that all the male critics drooling over this film most likely would not have felt same way had it been graphic sex between 2 men. The critic Glenn Kenny comes off sounding like a pervert and tweeted that female critic Manohla Dargis shoulf stop "harshing our (male critics) mellow" because she pointed out how this movie was more male fantasy than anything else. I was looking forward for this movie (still will watch) but now I think it'll join all the other lesbian turds ever made.

by Anonymousreply 805/26/2013

So, has anybody seen this?

I want to see it, but not in a theater filled with popcorn munching audience. Lincoln Center here I come!

by Anonymousreply 910/26/2013

IFC is letting high schoolers in in spite of the NC-17 rating. Cool.

[quote]The controversial Palm d'Or winning French romantic drama Blue Is The Warmest Color opened in select cities this weekend—and even though it's rated NC-17, IFC Center vowed to let high schoolers in to see the film.

by Anonymousreply 1010/26/2013

Lesbian here, pretty much not interested in this film.

One critic said it made him feel like he was witnessing genuine feelings of passion in the females.

I've thought that is has always been part of straight male fascination with viewing lesbian sex. Straight men don't believe women truly want to have sex with them.

Watching two women who want to be together is their chance to see real female desire.

by Anonymousreply 1110/26/2013

[quote]Straight men don't believe women truly want to have sex with them.

I have two very close friends who are straight men, and this is not how they feel, at all. Straight (white) men are about entitlement.

by Anonymousreply 1210/27/2013

r11 What do you mean by straight men not thinking women want to be with them.

by Anonymousreply 1310/27/2013

You've come a long way from Milan to Minsk... Rochelle Rochelle...

by Anonymousreply 1410/27/2013

How can I best explain this hypothesis.

Yes, most straight men feel entitled, they have generally the dominate position in society (physical strength, more money etc).

But... 1) that unequal relationship means that sometimes women are with men, not out of sexual desire but as security. So for men, there might be a underlying fear that the sex they have with women is always coerced.

Subconscious thoughts.

Also, 2) the imbalance in general horniness between the sexes. It seems to me that generally speaking, straight men must grow up constantly feeling rejected. "I have this super-fun tool! Let's have sex! Oh, bummer no sex".

So viewing lesbian sex is a chance to peek at in-coerced, genuine female desire.

I dunno, it's just a theory.

by Anonymousreply 1510/27/2013

When will we get a gay (as in male) movie like this? Maybe when hell freezes over, aka never?

by Anonymousreply 1610/27/2013

So is this yet another Canne Film Festival champ to open in NYC and LA and promptly die from mixed critical reviews, no box office and even less public interest?

It sure seems a likely candidate.

by Anonymousreply 1710/27/2013

I don't find it hot at all.

by Anonymousreply 1810/27/2013

For those of you who speak French

by Anonymousreply 1910/27/2013

Good point R15. You are French, right? It's pretty much like this in France.

Also, from the one time I saw Kechiche (at a Q&A for a movie he acted in), I have no desire whatsoever to his film. What a pretentious douche.

by Anonymousreply 2010/27/2013

I'm willing to bet most of the audience for this film will be straight men. Not a good sign.

by Anonymousreply 2110/27/2013

I intend to avoid it. Wish there was a good lesbian film, though.

by Anonymousreply 2210/27/2013

The director, Kechiche, and actors, Adele and Lea all won the Palme d' Or. Unprecedented.

by Anonymousreply 2310/27/2013

[quote] promptly die from mixed critical reviews, no box office and even less public interest?

The film got rave reviews.

by Anonymousreply 2410/27/2013

[quote]Wish there was a good lesbian film, though.

It seems like a lot of you are judging the film based on a few reviews that are ambivalent about the sex scene in the film. It's a bit silly to be so trusting of what some critics say, to be honest.

The film didn't get Palme d'Or for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 2510/27/2013

I'm a real-life dyke who didn't like the sex scenes (the author of the original work, who is a lesbian, called it when she said it seemed like they were inspired by so-called "lesbian" porn), but loved the film as a whole, which is stunning. In spite of not having any queer women at the helm it captures a lot of realistic, emotional truth-- about first love especially. When the two main characters' big fight comes, you will cringe in recognition. Michelle Dean of Flavorwire wrote the most perceptive review of the film, which I've linked.

by Anonymousreply 2610/27/2013

[quote]yeah, some reviews says it just looks real. others say that it is unsimulated. and i think one said it looks like part might real sex others are simulated.

What's the difference between real lesbian sex and simulated lesbian sex?

by Anonymousreply 2710/27/2013

Why does anyone who isn't a gullible 14 year-old boy think the sex is unsimulated? If you aren't 14 year-old boys you all need to get out more.

by Anonymousreply 2810/27/2013

The movie is 3 hours long, so 170 minutes of its running time are NOT a sex scene. So typical of Americans to focus on the sex, we really are living in the 1950s in some ways.

by Anonymousreply 2910/27/2013

It's interesting that the girl who plays the older lesbian, Lea Seydoux, seems to be the target of the pissy director's seemingly endless rage. Didn't he imply that she is in the business because of her connections? I notice the younger blonde actress in the film is keeping her mouth shut for the most part. She's also the one getting most of the accolades overseas. Smart move.

by Anonymousreply 3010/27/2013

[quote]Apparently, there were even rumors at Cannes that the Palme d’Or was some kind of rebuke to Dargis, a rumor that even if true I think she should take as a massive compliment.

Any article that claims this, R26, is not worth reading.

by Anonymousreply 3110/27/2013

Then you missed out on an article that has a nuanced and thoughtful view of a flawed but great movie, R31.

by Anonymousreply 3210/27/2013

Lea Seydoux is granddaughter to Jerome Seydoux, who owns Pathé. Huge film empire in France.

by Anonymousreply 3310/27/2013

The younger actress is the main character (the film is named after her in the unsubtitled version)but Lea Seydoux is also excellent. Basically the movie wouldn't work at all if the audience didn't believe the main character's whole life is changed by meeting Seydoux--and that the main character is not just wasting her time spending literally years physically and emotionally obsessed with Seydoux.

by Anonymousreply 3410/27/2013

Love watching foreign films set in Europe (specifically France) about relationships, even if its just director fantasy. The slightly eerie weather, the love of LOVE - so different from the mall drone/repressed frau terrorism existence that has blanketed my beloved USA.

by Anonymousreply 3510/27/2013

Lea and Adele. Great interview.

by Anonymousreply 3610/27/2013

Then watch Patrice Chéreau, R35.

Only when he died did I realize the huge influence he had had on my life.

Met him once. What charisma. I've never seen anything like it. This was a great guy, I'm sure.

by Anonymousreply 3710/27/2013

My pussy is all blue inside!

by Anonymousreply 3810/27/2013

R36 here. The actresses talk about using prosthetic vaginas in the sex scene. Way funny how they talk about it.

by Anonymousreply 3910/27/2013

I wonder if the younger generation is having sex as choreographed in straight porn since they have been bombarded with that since birth (and a film like this would confirm it as normal)...?

by Anonymousreply 4110/27/2013

I haven't seen the film, so I don't know is the sex scene looks choreographed (though, I am sure most of it was choreographed for the actresses and the camera).

Is the sex scene controversial in France, or anywhere in Europe?

by Anonymousreply 4210/27/2013

In Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago, the film was screened before a group of lesbians, followed by a panel discussion (!) All the current-affairs weeklies are writing about "the sex scene."

by Anonymousreply 4310/27/2013

Frenchy femmes

fucking furiously, fingering, on fire

Ladies lick latex labia

Sartre can't dance no more

Sartre can't dance no more

Sartre can't dance no more

by Anonymousreply 4410/27/2013

The sex scene will just be controversial in the US.

by Anonymousreply 4510/27/2013

The sex scene was bad -- not believable to me at all. Hell, the sex scene between Julianne Moore and Amanda Seyfried in Chloe was much better -- and hotter -- than this one.

That said, this movie was great and terrible at the same time. As someone above noted, it was like watching live in-the-flesh dyke drama, what with the slapping, the screaming, the throwing of suitcases, etc. It was like seeing regular lesbian life portrayed on the screen, quite literally, warts and all (did anyone else notice the warts on Adele's hand?).

It was so much like real lesbian life that I was quite honestly a bit bored by it.

By the same token, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry -- mostly I laughed in recognition of what was happening and what I knew was going to happen down the road. It's like laughing at/with someone who's had the same awful experience as you, shaking your head and chuckling.


Two things really pissed me off. I was there with my best friend, a bi-girl, and she and I were at the point where we were poking each other every time the director had the camera lingering on Adele's (or both girls') ass. JFC! I said, "Jesus -- this guy really loves that ass!" And my buddy says, "Yeah -- this should be a drinking game -- every time he shows her ass, you have to drink a shot. You'd be really drunk at the end of this three hours!!" Those ass shots over and over and over were so over the top... and I'm an ass aficianado! That was one of those "you can tell this movie was made by a straight man" issues.

Secondly, when the girl cheats, you KNOW it has to be with a fucking MAN. I mean, I don't know what was in the original graphic novel, but I'm so sick of this "lesbians always crave a dick" shit I could scream.

Overall, a very interesting movie which gave me a lot to think about. I am mainly interested in the flyover types' reactions -- you know, the folks who can't imagine lesbians outside of bed. But then again, probably none of them will see this, or they'll go right to the sex scene and think to themselves, "Oh -- THAT'S what they do!"

I went to the IFC for the 11:30AM show today, and the theater was pretty empty. Fuuuck -- if that's how it plays in the Village, I wonder if anyone outside of NY and LA will ever see it.

by Anonymousreply 4610/27/2013

The "flyover types" are not going to see a movie that has subtitles!

by Anonymousreply 4710/27/2013

Ugh, sounds a little too male-gaze (and male drool) for me. I think I will pass. (On a shallow note, I don't really like the actresses).

Sounds like a typical awful 1970s sexist French movie. Yuck.

Lesbians ripped off again. Well, it seems like a new feminist wave (a real one, unlike the fake on of the 90s) may be stirring, maybe a good film will come eventually....(j'espere!)

by Anonymousreply 4810/27/2013

I guess I'm not typical, R47. But then again, I drove three hours just to see it in NYC. I didn't want to have to wait for the DVD, since I am virtually certain it will never play anywhere close to me.

by Anonymousreply 4910/27/2013

It probably wont't. I bet you will get Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, IV, V, and VI, though

by Anonymousreply 5010/27/2013

As more of a film lover above sexuality, this film was just ok. Take away the art house appeal, the lesbianism, and the raunchy sex scene, and you're left with another run of the mill coming of age story. Lea was very good, but the Adele character was far too down and sad...she had no hope, and therefore I could care less about her. oh, did I mention you have to read subtitles for three fucking hours?

by Anonymousreply 5111/21/2013

So when will we get a gay (as in male) movie like this? Never, that's when.

The lesbians who think these scenes are controversial whatsoever are completely delusional. Lesbianism is mainstream today. The world is run by white straight men, and they love lesbians. Orange is the new Black NEVER would have made it big if it was about gays instead of lesbians. Heck.. just look at the 40+ tv shows currently with lesbians characters, compared to the seven shows with gay characters (most of them asexual I might add).

by Anonymousreply 5211/21/2013

I guess I should be mildly pleased there's another lesbian movie, but R3 (and others) saved me from wasting my time watching it. I'll pass on another "straight guy makes 'lesbian' wish fulfillment or porn".

by Anonymousreply 5311/21/2013

I liked reading your post, R46.

by Anonymousreply 5411/21/2013

Cry me a river R52. "The world is run by white straight men, and they love lesbians. ". They love fake lesbians who end up with men, you men. I'd rather they ignored us, if that = love. There's tons of gay directors and gay casting directors in hollywood. Tons more than there are lesbians. So if you want representation, time to represent yourself.

by Anonymousreply 5511/21/2013

[quote]Orange is the new Black NEVER would have made it big if it was about gays instead of lesbians.

I take it "OZ" doesn't ring a bell?

by Anonymousreply 5611/21/2013


It could and will happen. No one is going to be lining up to see Neil Patrick and Zachary in a movie....but if you get two great actors with chemistry, masculinity and near a-list status, it will happen.

by Anonymousreply 5711/21/2013

I can't read sub-titles fast enough and see what's going on to enjoy such a movie. I'm a narrow, simple minded mo. I can't tap my head and rub my belly either.

by Anonymousreply 5811/21/2013

I guess it's different when you didn't grow up reading subtitles. I was raised in Holland (where everything is subtitled), and my American father used to say to me and my brother: "You guys READ movies," since we tended to turn the sound down and focus on the subtitles.

by Anonymousreply 5911/21/2013

[quote]There's tons of gay directors and gay casting directors in hollywood. Tons more than there are lesbians. So if you want representation, time to represent yourself.

Weird then that they don't make ANY gay movies, or that there's only gay characters in seven tv shows, compared to the 40+ including lesbians. Even the gay directors shy away from adding gay characters. Ryan Murphy and Kevin Williamson are both examples of gay men who'd rather add lesbian characters than gay ones. So again, yes, I stand by what I said. Lesbianism is mainstream today, there's nothing even remotely controversial or taboo about lesbian love or lesbian sex. Just look at all the lesbian sex in Game of Thrones, compared to the ONE very mild sex scene between the two guys. There's a clear difference there.

The acceptance of lesbians in society is clearly higher than for men. I'm from Norway, and a recent research proved my point. More people have an issue with gay men than lesbians. But is it any wonder when the gay male visibility on tv is abysmal compared to the dozens of shows including lesbians and even lesbian sex? We have seven American shows on tv right now including gay characters, and out of those just TWO shows portray men as sexual human beings, not asexual freaks like the two gays on Modern Family.

by Anonymousreply 6011/22/2013

R60, don't despair or complain because most of those lesbian characters you speak of are absolutely, ridiculously UNREALISTIC pawns in straight men's jerk-off fantasies, lol. They serve little purpose other than for straight men to jizz all over them.

I'd much rather be a gay man portrayed honestly, candidly and sexually by OUR TERMS by other gay men. Gay men might be slightly more on the fringe but in today's American society that is only a good thing!

In fact, I would argue that gay male culture is more and more mainstream and desirable to straights vs. lesbians (who they can't make heads or tails of). You hear everyday of straight people appropriating gay male culture, visiting gay-male bars, but never the inverse of lesbian culture or lesbian bars...

Stop basing your own feeling of self-worth off of pathetic straight men who only wish they had 1/100th of the sexual freedom gay men enjoy!

by Anonymousreply 6111/22/2013

^ Exactly.

If straight people love lesbians and lesbian culture so much, why don't fraus and straight dudes instead go ahead and invade lesbian bars, lesbian space, try to appropriate lesbian culture, etc.?

Where can I sign-up to make straight people leave gay-male bars ALONE and focus on lesbians instead? I would love this. Gay male space for gay men only.

by Anonymousreply 6211/22/2013

I heard the sex scene is nothing but a male fantasy of lesbian sex. There's "scissoring" and breast-slapping...sounds like the typical fare of porno movies.

by Anonymousreply 6311/22/2013

On DVD Feb 11

by Anonymousreply 6411/22/2013

R63, there's also ass eating.

Brokeback was much better and they didn't need explicit sex to get across what only needed to be implied.

3 out of 5 stars. Who else has seen it?

by Anonymousreply 6511/22/2013

No ass-eating?

by Anonymousreply 6611/24/2013

Honestly, the background turmoil between the actresses and the director over the content seems to be more intriguing than the actual film itself. Dyke drama just became mainstream.

by Anonymousreply 6711/24/2013

I saw it today. What's the big deal about the sex scene? To me, it seemed to be perfectly molded into the story of the nature of their relationship - the ending, where it is clear that they still desire each other, would have made no sense without showing the strong physical aspect of the relationship.

I must have expected something really crude, based on the hoopla surrounding the film (in the US), because once the sex scene was over I was thinking - that's it? It seemed a seamless part of the story. It was, actually, quite beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 6811/28/2013

[quote]In fact, I would argue that gay male culture is more and more mainstream and desirable to straights vs. lesbians (who they can't make heads or tails of)

Is this why straights don't like lesbians or why YOU don't like lesbians? Be honest.

by Anonymousreply 6911/29/2013

The extended sex scene began to feel like a tutorial, and rather pedantic, but the love story was powerful and the heartbreak very real. Straight men (as we all know) are deeply flawed, but this movie has much to offer. It will make you think; it will make you feel. Go.

by Anonymousreply 7011/29/2013

One of the more lucid reviews written of the film:

by Anonymousreply 7112/05/2013

R62? Apparently, you must be very young.

When I was in my late teens and 20's, in 1970s B.I. (before the Internet), that was EXACTLY what straight people would do -- go to lesbian bars. [You poor gayboys, always thinking bad things only happen to you.] Back in the late 70's and all through the 80's, lesbian bars were often frequented by straight couples and solitary straight men. And some -- maybe most -- still are.

And would that they were there to "appropriate 'our' culture"! No -- you know why they were there: we lesbians only needed a dick to "straighten us out," or we were just DYING, in our heart of hearts, to have a threesome between some woman and -- her husband? Who knows.

Now -- is that what you'd rather have? Straight women coming into gay bars to try to "make you straight"? Or straight people in general coming in just to enjoy the culture gay men are famous for?

Let's put it this way, gentlemen: as usual, I'll trade ya.

by Anonymousreply 7212/05/2013

This film was pretty great up until the completely OTT sex scene though the silly "sleep while furiously masturbating and exposing and playing with one's titties" hinted at some of the ludicrousness to come.

The sex scene was so jarring and abrupt, when prior things had been so intimate and engaging, and suddenly we weren't watching these characters anymore, we were just watching two actresses being exploited, rimming each other, bumping pussies and wiggling each other's clitorises. It actually just pushed me way out of the film, staring at the edges of the screen or at the wall, in an instinctive effort to give these poor women some privacy. It added nothing to the film and the film never quite recovered from it, veering close to self-parody in the last hour.

When it works, this film is brilliant. When it doesn't, it hits the skids HARD. One should suffer through it because Adele is terrific throughout, Emma slightly less so but the actress playing her has so much less to work with.

Adele should at least be honoured with an Academy Award nomination, in acknowledgement of the film. None of the other contenders come close to giving such a mesmeric performance.

by Anonymousreply 7312/11/2013

Love it! Much better than Titanic!

by Anonymousreply 7412/14/2013

I love it, too, but I don't discuss it on DL. There are a few people with an anti-lesbian bias here who will interrupt any discussion about the film. It's a shame, because as a film (not as a lesbian film, which is not; the story is far more universal) it's worth analyzing.

by Anonymousreply 7512/14/2013

Switzerland here. I would have to disagree with our Norwegian friend about lesbians being more accepted in Euro culture than gays. I'm a gay man, my sister is a lesbian. My life is far easier than hers. Gays are expected to be present in the arts, for instance. A handsome gay man who is educated will be invited to fabulous parties, asked to escort titled women to events where one can meet interesting people and other gay men, etc. My sister who is lovely and feminine is constantly hit on by straight men. If she decides to tell them she's gay she is ridiculed and rumors spread quickly. Such a dynamic makes her far more vulnerable than I.

by Anonymousreply 7612/14/2013

Blue is beautifully heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 7712/14/2013

Scandinavian here. I agree with r76. I think gay men have it easier. They are mostly perceived as highly educated and tasteful men. While lesbians are still considered as boring ugly hairy creatures with low-income jobs.

by Anonymousreply 7812/16/2013

I saw the movie at IFC with a full house. It's not just one thing, and can't be boiled down to the sex scene alone. I thought the acting was first rate, and it's searing to watch the main character go through the range of first love emotions, and the transition from being a love-struck teenager to a young adult, with all the disappointments that brings. I didn't have an issue with the sex scene. I thought it was hot, it didn't seem like male gaze to me. And as others have pointed out, it's 8 minutes in a 3-hour movie. And to talk about it as a separate entity from the movie misses the point. And makes us look a little simple minded--it's like every movie with lesbian content gets reduced to "how was the sex scene? Did it reflect the way I, personally, have sex? Were the girls cute?"

by Anonymousreply 7912/16/2013

What an overrated, unimaginative bore.

by Anonymousreply 8001/19/2014

R80 = 90 year old Academy member

by Anonymousreply 8101/19/2014

No, but someone who thinks gay people deserve better movies. And I am pretty sure not all french lesbians have crappy taste in music. That score was intolerable.

by Anonymousreply 8201/19/2014

It's a great film. Incredibly well directed and acted - it gets to the soul of the main character and what she goes through. It's a shame, but not surprising, given how many great films get ignored or misunderstood, that so many people can't recognize that.

On the other hand, it's a good thing, considering most people have pedestrian tastes in film and theater - anything that's embraced on a mass level is bound to be mediocre. This film is anything but.

by Anonymousreply 8301/19/2014

Oh come on its a movie full of cliches and stereotypes. Maybe teenagers are impressed with something constructed so simple and in such a gratuitous way.

by Anonymousreply 8401/19/2014

I just watched it on Netflix. I didn't think it was as great as the hype suggested. Adele was wonderful, what an absolutely natural performance. I find it hard to believe anyone who actually saw it could deny she deserved an Oscar nomination.

There seemed to be a sequence missing where Emma and Adele have a series of ups and downs. It feels like the film takes forever to get them together, then bam, Adele feels lonely, they have one blow out and its all over. I expected more of a roller coaster of dyke drama throughout.

The director was very indulgent. 30 minutes could easily be cut out of scenes, such as the seemingly endless classroom scenes, and used the extra time to flesh out the central relationship more.

I agree with the poster who said the sex scene seemed jarring. If it was meant to convey how much passion was between them, it failed at that task. What I saw was a mess of bodies at what looked like a filmed rehearsal or camera blocking session.

Didn't much care for Seydoux, although that may be the character and not her performance.

by Anonymousreply 8503/11/2014

what makes it hot is that the women in the film are women and the men are men.

by Anonymousreply 8603/11/2014
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