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Chris Matthews to Obama on IRS scandal: ‘Do something’ or face 2014 backlash

Two big stories tonight: the IRS and Benghazi. The President called one “outrageous” and the other a “sideshow”. Let’s start with the outrageous.

Taxes. If you’re honest and pay ‘em, the best feeling you get after April 15 is, “well, that’s over with!!!” You’ve done what you have to do.

So you try to believe that the system is basically fair – that those progressive rates really mean something – that those IRS people who go over your returns really are looking to keep people honest and they’re fair about. How else can you deal with all this if you don’t have some basic faith in the system?

This, my progressive, independent and reasonable conservative friends is how we live in this country, how we try to be good citizens. And we are the ones furious at this IRS story!

Do these people know what they’ve done to undermine that basic civic faith that we’re not being chumps for being honest at tax time? Do they know what they’ve done to the faith that this republic can perform the way we need it to?

Then, there are the far-right people. They love this baby. They always expect the worst. They get up in the morning figuring they’re about to be picked up by FEMA workers and taken to concentration camps, or the Black Helicopters of the World Order are coming to take their guns!

Yes, this expect-the-worst crowd just got an earful of what it goes to bed at night agitated about. I can only guess what they’re saying about the news that some in the IRS have decided to target right-wing groups. “Knew it all the time,” they’re muttering. This is “The Guvament” they’re telling everyone they can get to listen! “They ought to ‘abolish’ that darned IRS.”

Mr. President, I’ve got some advice. This thing is going to demoralize the good people, give firepower to the far-out. So don’t just talk about how “outrageous” it is. Do something. Act! Remember what Reagan did when the air traffic controllers broke faith with their oaths and went on strike? He fired the bunch of them!

Guess what! You may not like the rough treatment, but that’s when we realized he was President! That’s when the Bad Guys in the soon-to-be-gone Soviet Union knew this country had a leader!

So do something. I can call something “outrageous.” You can act!!! Find a way to get rid of whoever did this or your enemies will ride this baby right through 2014. Find a way to get rid of these people or Mitch McConnell will ride them right through re-election

by Anonymousreply 3205/24/2013

Chris Matthews is a drunk. He slurs his words often on Hardball. Get some help Chris.

by Anonymousreply 105/18/2013

When are they going to talk about the way Karl Rove and the Koch brothers' sponsored Tea Party hide behind tax exempt status to undermine our government?

This IRS issue is bullshit. Not only because Republicans go after people they disagree with all the fucking time, but because the fucking Tea Party and all these arrogant bastards are hardwired to believe they are above the law and the rules don't apply.

So when the most modest challenge is leveled, when they are questioned regarding the legitimacy of their practices, they scream like a pack of hounds.

Fuck them. And fuck Obama administration's stupidity for not getting ahead of this thing and framing it as it should've been framed. Obama is emerging as one of the weakest Presidents in my memory.

How the hell can he say he only just read about this like the rest of us? His press office at the very least ought to have notified him it was breaking.

Is he stupid? Does he not yet understand what the GOP game is? This is the 2014 election campaign. If things continue as they have been since before his re-election, we're going to lose our asses in BOTH houses of Congress in 2014.

Chris Matthews is full of shit. I like Chris. But he's full of shit.

by Anonymousreply 205/18/2013

I agree with Chris Matthews which hasn't happening in years.

by Anonymousreply 305/18/2013

Shris Matthews needs to stop spitting and running roughshod over every speaker. He has knowledgeable guests then overtalks and intterupts them so he can spout.

by Anonymousreply 405/18/2013

Chris Matthews is an interrupting, blowhard gas bag, but on this point--he's right!

by Anonymousreply 505/18/2013

Chris is spot on about this issue and I very seldom agree with him on anything.

by Anonymousreply 605/18/2013

Liberal groups have been treated the same by the IRS, why is this news?

by Anonymousreply 705/18/2013

The IRS has not audited a church in 10 years. Why isn't this news? Churches illegally endorse right wing candidates all the time and the IRS is terrified to do anything about it.

by Anonymousreply 805/18/2013

Thank you, R8. And they knew perfectly well that Karl Rove's Global WTF-ever group that was seeded by the Koch brothers was actively engaged in partisan political activities and not on "education on issues" as they lied and said. These 501C4s are a real problem. They need to get rid of the exemption for them and police the 501c3's much better.

by Anonymousreply 905/18/2013

The IRS issue - above all else - will lead to a Republican landslide in the mid term elections.

Republicans will have the house and senate...repeal Obamacare and possible impeachment proceedings.

Holder will resign well ahead of the fallout (a back channel agreement to resign and not face prosecution).

by Anonymousreply 1005/18/2013

[quote]The IRS issue - above all else - will lead to a Republican landslide in the mid term elections.

In your dreams, freeper boy.

[quote]Republicans will have the house and senate...repeal Obamacare and possible impeachment proceedings.

In your dreams, freeper boy.

[quote]Holder will resign well ahead of the fallout (a back channel agreement to resign and not face prosecution).

In your dreams, freeper boy.

by Anonymousreply 1105/18/2013

No one cares about this, aside from freepers and talking heads.

by Anonymousreply 1205/18/2013

"The IRS Official In Cincinnati Who Decided To Scrutinize TeaParty Groups Was A Bush Appointee Who Used To Work For Grover Norquist"

by Anonymousreply 1305/18/2013

After this week of so-called "scandals", Obama's approval rating is actually up, and his disapproval rating is actually DOWN.

So yeah, rethuglicans... keep it up. It's so working for you.

by Anonymousreply 1405/18/2013

R11 - Typical. Hopefully you can see passed your ideology and realize these are serious issues. I wonder if the IRS had been targeting Gay groups what your opinion would be?

I have no doubt the mid-term elections will not be good for the dems...buckle up.

by Anonymousreply 1505/18/2013

r15= still a freeper

by Anonymousreply 1605/18/2013

Is the president going to have to resign over all these scandals like Nixon did?

by Anonymousreply 1705/18/2013

We hope so!

by Anonymousreply 1805/18/2013

Most likely not r17, expect a terrorist attack or something like that from Obama, remember Clinton blew up a drug factory, anything to draw attention away. Most likely meeting with Rahm or maybe Sandy "socks" on what should be done.

by Anonymousreply 1905/18/2013

Seems we got ourselves a freeper infestation!

by Anonymousreply 2005/18/2013

Why don't people realize this is bullshit deliberately designed to weaken Democrats and to weaken Obama's influence leading to the mid terms? The GOP and Karl Rove who is definitely participating in this "strategy" are as transparent as ever.

by Anonymousreply 2105/18/2013

Matthews is in love. With Obama. He would say anything like this unless it was serious.

by Anonymousreply 2205/18/2013

R19 I was thinking that myself. A drummed up terrorist attack now is risky...uless the administration can blame it on a white supremist type organization. Anything other than that hurts the administration and opens up a Pandora's box.

by Anonymousreply 2305/18/2013

Matthews was the one who called Obama out after the first debate in forceful, straight-forward language, and it scared the brainiac off his ass. I don't always agree with Matthews, but I do respect him.

That said, blaming Bush will not work here despite the fact that it is in fact Bush's appointee. The line he needs to draw is between Rove and the now-resigned IRS dude, and suggest that this is nothing more than the teatards doing what they always do, reaping the rewards of government largess and screaming about it at the same time. I mean, why should the Koch brothers and Rove not pay taxes like the rest of us?

The scandal here is that these groups have been deftly using a loophole to avoid accountability for their speech. You have the right to free speech, but as Scalia has famously said, there is no right to privacy in the constitution. Obama should use this as a wedge issue to separate the monied GOP from the teatards. We've certainly seen that when the shoe is on the other foot, the Pubbies used every available issue from marriage equality to rape (with diminishing results, but after two decades of ascending power due to the tactic).

by Anonymousreply 2405/18/2013


by Anonymousreply 2505/19/2013

woah oh oh

by Anonymousreply 2605/20/2013

R10 and R15 jerk off to Glenn Beck.

How quickly they've forgotten 1998. Here they are again, going full retard.

Please proceed, Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 2705/20/2013

[quote]The IRS issue - above all else - will lead to a Republican landslide in the mid term elections.

I agree it will have a major influnce though the entire IRS issue is total bullshit. Sadly, there are millions of stupid people who don't know it's bullshit. They're the same people who supported Bush through the two elections he stole. They'll continue to give total support to the Pubbies because the Pubbies are experts at making noise and throwing up smoke - something the Dems have never figured out.

It's all been downhill for Democrats ever since that moron from California admitted that the Dems have no balls when she announced "Impeachment is off the table." That was a total admission that the Dems will roll over and take every slap and kick the Pubbies can give.

Obama moved into the Oval Office and sat around for the first year waiting for the consensus. He didn't know how to lead. Anyone with leadership ability would have given up on a consensus after 90 days and begun to kick Rethuglican butt. His inaction continued the downhill slide for Dems. The midterm election will place the Pubbies in TOTAL control of the House and Senate.

by Anonymousreply 2805/20/2013

Obama's ratings are holding steady. And he's already done something about the IRS. The commission is history, and the DOJ has begun investigating.

Meanwhile, over in the House, Boehner wants both "someone to go to jail" and to hold House hearings. This is idiotic. If the House holds hearings while a criminal investigation is either ongoing or expected, anyone who possibly has any culpability will have to be given "use" immunity. This will lead to appeals if and when anyone is convicted in court. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

by Anonymousreply 2905/20/2013

Let them hang themselves, R29.

by Anonymousreply 3005/20/2013

[quote]Obama's ratings are holding steady. And he's already done something about the IRS. The commission is history, and the DOJ has begun investigating.

Yes, it's all over. It's history. No mention of IRS in the media today. No mention of the IRS in Congress today. It's all history so nothing will bother us.

At the same time, the war in Afghanistan ended this morning and all our military people will be back in the U.S. next week while every Republican in Congress resigned. Everything is beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 3105/20/2013

They are all getting off the band wagon, Matthews, Howard Fineman...

by Anonymousreply 3205/24/2013
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