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How can so many people go missing?

Is it alien abduction? Appalling.

Do you know of anyone who just... disappeared?

by Anonymousreply 8603/11/2015

I imagine more than half, or their bodies, could be found in Florida.

by Anonymousreply 105/08/2013

With 315,819,634 of us not missing, it doesn't seem that bad actually.

by Anonymousreply 205/08/2013

I had an uncle who took off and disappeared. After my grandfather died uncle pitched a fit because no money was left for his bastard children (who he never supported anyway). He was a total fuck up and quite honestly, the whole family is pleased we dont have to deal with him anymore.

by Anonymousreply 305/08/2013

Kids snatched by non custodial parents and people like crazy lady in PA who just take off for whatever reason

by Anonymousreply 405/08/2013

I do have a cousin who is still a Vietnam draft dodger. He lives in Florida under a different (but stupidly similar) name. He's kind of a motorcylcle gang-type, huge with a ZZ Top beard. He's married, so I think she brings home the bacon. But he does off the books type things for cash, like selling his own honey; car repairs... Of course he doesn't pay taxes.

by Anonymousreply 505/08/2013

R5 President Carter pardoned all the draft dodgers over 30 years ago. Your cousin (who really hasn't disappeared as you know where he is and what he does and looks like) probably is a fugitive from the law. You should find out if there is a reward for his capture and if so, turn him in.

by Anonymousreply 605/08/2013

You made me laugh R6.

by Anonymousreply 705/08/2013

They broke this down on Maddow. 90% of the people reported missing are either not really missing or are runaways. 5% is family abduction. 3% something I can't remember and 2% are actual kidnappings.

by Anonymousreply 805/08/2013

But wouldn't the minute you applied for a job, driver's license, etc. be your undoing- if you were hiding? So you're a runaway: are you working at McDonalds or buried in a shallow grave?

by Anonymousreply 905/08/2013

OP, if you're serious, there are several reasons for the large number of human disappearances that occur each year.

About 900,000 missing person cases are reported annually in the United States. About 500,000 are never found. And the actual number of disappearances is higher, because it doesn't include people who are already living out of the network, such as the homeless (who are heavily targeted).

A fairly small number - about 25,000 - are taken by serial killers. The active and successful serial killers - and the surprisingly successful thrill/hunt murder organizations out there - are rather efficient, more so than realized. The better psychopaths each take from 4 to 100 per year. Some of the organizations will go through 5 to 40 per month, either through hunts or torture sessions for the group. These include a few - not many - illicit gourmet groups committed to enjoying the potentials of human meat. These are not the crazed cannibals from movies - they are connoisseurs in a very old, secret tradition. A lot of children go to this purpose - tender and fresh, apparently, compared to man mutton.

A much smaller number are taken by professional criminals, for revenge, warning, payment. This accounts for only 7,500 or so, but watch for huge increases if the Mexican-style activity spreads north.

About 30% of the total drop out of sight on their own. They take other identities, run away, leave it all behind. This group is having a harder time, because of the extensive expansion of surveillance and databasing. Many are now found eventually who formerly would have stayed unlocated.

About 30% are taken for harvesting. This is more difficult, because the healthy are preferred among the higher-end organizations, and the disappearance of healthy people tends to get noticed, because they usually have families and friends. However, the low-end, international organ-sale groups will use just about anyone, and they do sweeps from city to city, careful to avoid patterning identification.

And most of the rest are collected for various research purposes. Many are shipped out of the country - it would threaten the system if anything ever was discovered that started to pull the thread in the fabric of the system. But some domestic facilities exist, under deep cover. None of this is official government business. But it is huge, with about a billion a year in funding from various private and international sources. Life-extension, elite medical research, weapons testing with both munitions and bio/chem, DNA/genetic work, human-animal crossbreeding are among the primary foci.

And in the last category there also are hints - I'm not privy to details and don't dare ask the right people about it - that some partnership with "unidentified colleagues" is involved. There is talk of a treaty that includes collection of humans for research purposes, in exchange for the appearance of continued autonomy and independence.

So, OP, do you really want to know?

by Anonymousreply 1005/08/2013

Penelope Milford. (she got the role I was offered in Coming Home but I was busy and couldn't take it.)

by Anonymousreply 1105/08/2013

[quote]But wouldn't the minute you applied for a job, driver's license, etc. be your undoing

Not if you stole someone's identity.

by Anonymousreply 1205/08/2013

R10. your post creeped me out. Where did you get this information? YOU creep me out, to be honest.

by Anonymousreply 1305/08/2013

r10 - what is your source for this information.

by Anonymousreply 1405/08/2013

r10 - another question, why haven't they taken Lyndsay?

by Anonymousreply 1505/08/2013

For anyone who believes what R10 wrote: I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Priced to sell. Please contact me if interested.

by Anonymousreply 1605/08/2013

R15 Like anyone would want to harvest her organs. She probably wouldn't be any fun to hunt either.

by Anonymousreply 1705/08/2013

r10 literally wears a tin hat.

by Anonymousreply 1805/09/2013

[quote]The better psychopaths each take from 4 to 100 per year.

One must only do business with the better psychopaths.

by Anonymousreply 1905/09/2013

It's a cookbook!

by Anonymousreply 2005/09/2013

Yes, the topic is creepy, but don't blame the messenger. Take or leave the information I offered - it's nothing to me. You think I'm unaware of how absurd the latter part sounds? (By the way, if you saw the statistics for disappearances in Russia, you'd likely shit yourselves - Putin's cut more deals than you can imagine.)

But be aware of your surroundings if out alone late at night, as many of the people here fit the "expendable/convenient category for targeting. Except R16 and R18, who can go ahead and position themselves for collection as a matter of public service, although the condition of their livers probably lessens their risk a bit.

R14, I work for an NSA contractor, and happily have ways to post securely and anonymously to avoid any backlash.

by Anonymousreply 2105/09/2013

More details, R10?

by Anonymousreply 2205/09/2013

[quote] many of the people here fit the expendable/convenient category for targeting

No doubt!

by Anonymousreply 2305/10/2013

R10, your post at R21 answered my question of where you get your info. I have to say that several paragraphs scared the crap out of me. Do you have any demographic info and a few tips about how to avoid being one of the chosen?

by Anonymousreply 2405/10/2013

Human-animal crossbreeding?!

Come on.

I'm going to guess r10 doesn't believe we actually landed on the moon either.

by Anonymousreply 2505/10/2013

Makes sense to me, R25, and I'm not into conspiracies. Soldiers bred with animals for speed, superior vision, or hunting instinct, for example. Keep in mind that just because they're doing research doesn't mean that they've made significant progress. It just means that, like Karl Rove, they've found deep pockets to fund their madness.

by Anonymousreply 2605/10/2013

It's known that humans and chimps can likely produce viable (if not fertile) offspring. It's science's dirty little secret. If you go digging online there is tons of proof and some photos.

by Anonymousreply 2705/10/2013

R27 Well, if its on the internet, then it must be true. By the way, did you know the word gullible is not in the dictionary?

by Anonymousreply 2805/10/2013

Ah but the word denial is, R28. Read up on the science. It's the same as a horse and a donkey producing a mule. No difference. In fact no scientist denies that it is possible - it's just sort of a taboo subject that they try not to mention too much because of all the ethics problems with it.

by Anonymousreply 2905/10/2013

The stench of crazy is all over this thread.

by Anonymousreply 3005/10/2013

r10 refers to "treaties" with aliens, no?

by Anonymousreply 3105/10/2013

Right, which makes him crazier than a bedbug.

by Anonymousreply 3205/10/2013

I love R10. Tell us more, please. I'm serious.

by Anonymousreply 3305/10/2013

One of the California government offices has photos you can view of unknown people in the morgue before burial. Internet sleuths have cracked a few cases.

by Anonymousreply 3405/10/2013

also, trolldar r66 on the rachel maddow thread, then come back into this thread for a further dose of cray-cray!

by Anonymousreply 3505/10/2013

R10 you are a lying weirdo. There is literally no proof of any of the outlandish stuff you said. I guess that's how you entertain yourself, though.

by Anonymousreply 3605/10/2013

R36, how do you know that?

by Anonymousreply 3705/10/2013

R36, All he did was say it. No evidence given, no documentation, no legitimate news source, etc. But if somebody saying something is proof enough for you, then you should look into buying that bridge. There are brokers everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 3805/10/2013

Because so many people have basements. What else are you going to do with it?

by Anonymousreply 3905/10/2013

This thread should make you think a little harder about what the real effect is. There will be more and more of these extreme stories because there are more broken human beings. Let's say there were 10,000 when the world had 3 billion people, and there are 25,000 now. Instead of an awful incident being revealed, say, once a week, now it happens every couple of days. The effect of a single "mistake" of one human being is magnified tremendously.

This is what we will live with. Oh, and add to that the complete overhaul of societal norms in the course of one generation and the effect of millions upon millions of single, wifeless, hopeless, angry young men.

Find a cave.

by Anonymousreply 4005/10/2013

say what?

by Anonymousreply 4105/10/2013

I know a "hit man"; and he has killed at least a dozen people who were reported missing. Wives contracting on husbands, and vice versa.

by Anonymousreply 4205/10/2013

Who the hell knows what's true and not with this shady stuff? It's interesting to hear about, as long as no final conclusions are made.

Are you kidding, R42? 'Cause this is a topic that really interests me; hit men, assassins. You'd be a fool to think they don't exist anymore in some forms, but the question is how are they organized? How many are they? Surely there can't be that many. And if they're so well hidden, how do angry wives get a hold of them?

by Anonymousreply 4305/10/2013

R27, that looks nothing like a chimp.

It's a sculpture from an amusement park.

by Anonymousreply 4405/10/2013

How common are hits on people? It seems like most people Tryng to hire one get caught by an undercover officer posing as a hit man.

R10 what about alien abductions? Are those happening as well?

Did Dick Cheney buy a new heart? I'd like to hear more about the hunting organizations. I have a feeling that is real ever since reading that story about it by O. Henry.

by Anonymousreply 4505/10/2013

[quote]surprisingly successful thrill/hunt murder organizations out there.

WTF is that? Seriously, it sounds scary.

by Anonymousreply 4605/10/2013

Human hunting is a quasi-urban legend, where certain people hunt and kill humans for the purpose of pleasure, entertainment, or sustenance.

Some science fiction writers depicted fictional future or alternate history tyrannical regimes where the hunting of humans for sport is institutionalised.

Numerous films have used the theme of human hunting as the basis or as a feature of their plot. The first film to ever feature it was the 1932 film The Most Dangerous Game, which is based on the Richard Edward Connell short story of the same name. Many movies have dealt with this, also TV shows.

by Anonymousreply 4705/10/2013

On The Island DVD Michael Bay tells this crazy story he heard about some super rich Arab guy that has his own plane with a hospital in it. He's very old with a bad heart and travels with this young guy who goes shopping etc. the catch is that the young guy is an organ donor and when the old guy goes into cardiac arrest they will swap his heart with that of the young man. The question remains whether they guy knows he is a walking organ donor or just thinks he lives a life of luxury?

by Anonymousreply 4805/10/2013

and more cray cray

by Anonymousreply 4905/11/2013

Please go away, R25, 30, 32, 35, 41 and 49. You're boring us.

by Anonymousreply 5005/11/2013

Some say the Atlanta child murders was a Saudi rich guy into harvesting.

by Anonymousreply 5105/11/2013

Over 150,000 a year for "experiments"? Sounds wildly exaggerated.

by Anonymousreply 5205/11/2013

Now 300,000 per year for fertilizer, that I could believe.

by Anonymousreply 5305/11/2013

"But wouldn't the minute you applied for a job, driver's license, etc. be your undoing- if you were hiding? So you're a runaway: are you working at McDonalds or buried in a shallow grave?"

A lot of runaways turn to prostitution, sadly. Some are just drifters who panhandle.

by Anonymousreply 5405/11/2013


by Anonymousreply 5505/11/2013

Geez, where are you R10? Don't tell me--

by Anonymousreply 5605/12/2013

"Take or leave the information I offered - it's nothing to me."

I'm pretty sure it's nothing for the rest of us, as well.

by Anonymousreply 5705/12/2013

Tastes like chicken!!

by Anonymousreply 5805/12/2013

It's the season!

by Anonymousreply 5905/12/2013

[quote]if you were hiding? So you're a runaway: are you working at McDonalds . . .

You either have to steal someone's id, apply for a new ID (with a birth certificate or immigration paperwork) or you can only work for cash.

That being said, I want to hear more about r10's info. My mom has said for years that people have been harvested for organs. I just ignored her but it wouldn't surprise me, either.

by Anonymousreply 6005/12/2013

I know a guy who swears he has never had a social security number. He lives in an RV and only works for cash. He's a talented craftsman and his customers don't mind what they consider artistic eccentricity.

He uses his twin brother's driver's license and the vehicle is registered in his brother's name.

by Anonymousreply 6105/12/2013


by Anonymousreply 6205/13/2013

Because aliens in outer space are baking us. We're beeing cooked by them so we may be consumed. That's what explains global warming.

Missing persons are being plucked by the aliens to determine whether we're done so they may, so to speak, stick a fork in us.

by Anonymousreply 6305/13/2013

There's no need to kill people to harvest organs. In Moldava, they'll sell you their own organs for $2000.

by Anonymousreply 6405/13/2013

In high school we had one of those scared straight assemblies, with an officer talking to us about what happens to teenage runaways. He said most end up in prostitution and die, from murder, abuse and drug addiction. He said many are sold as sex slaves and kept in captivity. Others end up with film careers - illegal pornography and snuf films. He talked about one family's years long search to find their daughter only to find out she was killed in a snuff film. I remember he said the things he's seen still keep him awake at night and the only reason he can do his job is to keep kids safe. This was in an upper middle class, suburban white kids - didn't think we were a likely demographic, but who knows. Upper middle class kids can be just as vulnerable. Even more so now, since prescription pills and heroin are so easily available, so many kids are using it and ruining their lives.

by Anonymousreply 6505/14/2013

Sometimes a person can be, well, disgusted with where the path in life has led to. That person longs for a change, the sort of change that can only happen if they just pick up and GO, no strings attached. So, they do just that, pick up and go. Sometimes it is the only way to change things.

Before computers,search engines and 9/11, it used to be much easier to create a new identity. Not so today.

There is a good book on how to disappear. I will post the title and author, if anyone's interested.

by Anonymousreply 6605/14/2013

Next time there is a missing person or murder, notice if it is near an occult holiday. I am not saying all people into Wicca, the occult and so forth are murderers. Just notice this. See if you draw the same conclusion. And please, don't conclude that all in the occult or Wicca are involved.

by Anonymousreply 6705/14/2013

Go for it, R66. I'm curious.

by Anonymousreply 6805/14/2013

R68, "How To Disappear", by Frank Ahearn.

by Anonymousreply 6905/14/2013

A lot of them are runaways. Shitty parents do exist, OP.

by Anonymousreply 7005/14/2013

very interesting thread...

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by Anonymousreply 7206/04/2014

creepy as fuck thread

by Anonymousreply 7306/04/2014

Hook-up gone wrong?

by Anonymousreply 7406/06/2014

I work in public health in Appalachia. Believe me there are thousands of throw away kids from terrible family situations that run away to find something better. With no education or life skills, they are easy prey. I assume some of them end up victims of foul play of some kind.

by Anonymousreply 7506/06/2014

Oh look, someone else stuck in my butt cheeks. And this one is stuck real bad, gotta fart hard.

by Anonymousreply 7606/06/2014

Help find this hot missing guy.

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by Anonymousreply 8403/11/2015

"A fairly small number - about 25,000 - are taken by serial killers."

Sounds like a HUGE number to me!

by Anonymousreply 8503/11/2015
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