Fox News guest: Scientific ‘enlightenment and reason’ led to the Holocaust
A Fox News guest on Thursday slammed President Barack Obama’s transportation secretary nominee, connecting him to an 18th century scientific movement that embraced reason, which she said was partially to blame for the Holocaust.
Fox News host Steve Doocy asked Penny Nance, CEO of the Christian activist group Concerned Women for America, if she could make any sense out of why Charlotte Mayor Anthony Foxx would proclaim May 2 as both a “Day of Prayer” and a “Day of Reason.”
“He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance, clearly he’s not running for re-election since he’s up for transportation secretary,” she opined. “You know, G. K. Chesterton said that the Doctrine of Original Sin is the only one which we have 3,000 years of empirical evidence to back up. Clearly, we need faith as a component and it’s just silly for us to say otherwise.”
“You know, the Age of Enlightenment and Reason gave way to moral relativism. And moral relativism is what led us all the way down the dark path to the Holocaust… Dark periods of history is what we arrive at when we leave God out of the equation.”
Foxx, who attends Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Charlotte, first declared a Day of Reason in 2012 at the request of Charlotte Atheists & Agnostics.
“I would like to actually thank [Charlotte] Mayor Anthony Fox for proclaiming a Day of Reason at our request,” Charlotte Atheists & Agnostics President Shawn Murphy told Raw Story in 2012. “So, we do have support locally. … We requested a proclamation from the mayor’s office to proclaim it a day of reason and he was kind enough to oblige.”
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/05/2013|
Wow, these people really want to move backwards, like to the 15th century backwards. I guess no one told them the Age of Enlightenment and Reason also gave us the American Revolution.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/02/2013|
“You know, the Age of Enlightenment and Reason gave way to moral relativism. "
Um... what? Reason and relativism aren't compatible with each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/02/2013|
The Age of Enlightenment could not have led to moral relativism because moral relativism predates it by a few thousand years.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/02/2013|
The Age of Enlightenment also gave rise to capitalism. Another evil.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/02/2013|
" the Doctrine of Original Sin is the only one which we have 3,000 years of empirical evidence to back up."
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/02/2013|
[quote] “He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance, clearly he’s not running for re-election since he’s up for transportation secretary,” she opined
Wow. Only a troll would know that NC has the 7th highest church attendance. I'll bet she's got the states ranked according to church attendance.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/02/2013|
I done told you people over and over again: Given the opportunity, these people would give Saudi Arabia a run for its money.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/02/2013|
[quote]Um... what? Reason and relativism aren't compatible with each other.
Well, some people certainly reasoned their ways into relativist theories.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/02/2013|
[quote]He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance
North Carolina is also number 17 in divorce rates and has a teen pregnancy rate that is significantly higher than the national average.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/02/2013|
How interesting. Some people hypothesize that some of the anti-semitic thinking dates back to Luther's writings about the sins of the Jews.
Below is a link to Wikipedia. I realize it is not a definitive source, but it's a starting place if you'd like to ridicule FoxNews and their ridiculous claim.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/02/2013|
GK Chesterton also aid
"There is nothing the matter with Americans except their ideals. The real American is all right; it is the ideal American who is all wrong"
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/02/2013|
"Dark periods of history is what we arrive at when we leave God out of the equation"
Has she ever heard of the Inquisition? Or the Salem witch trials? Or the "troubles" in Northern Ireland? Religion has led to all kinds of horrible things throughout history.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/02/2013|
How about the fucking Crusades?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/02/2013|
R12 and R13, I bet he doesn't consider Salem or the crusades dark times.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/02/2013|
Translation = Republicans do not accept facts and reality.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/02/2013|
Two things not associated with Faux News - enlightenment and reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/03/2013|
Actually, pseudoscience (eugenics) and irrational public policy (exterminating the Jews will solve all our problems) led to the Holocaust.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/03/2013|
Fox is a finely crafted right wing propaganda operation, no more, no less.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/03/2013|
R17, Eugenics isn't pseudoscience. Throughout the 50s and 60s Germany had an extremely low number of hereditary diseases. The problem isn't that it isn't science, the problem is that it is immoral.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/03/2013|
R19 their application of eugenics was misguided an heavy handed. These days we have a better understanding of what is hereditary or even harmful.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/05/2013|
The collapse of the German mark which rendered almost everyone in Germany poor overnight led the German people to look for a scapegoat. This was obviously supplied by "the Jews," a small handful of whom got VERY, VERY rich via World War One and its aftermath when everything in the ruined Germany could be snapped up for pennies on the dollar.
If the US dollar collapses and renders a huge portion of Americans poor overnight, we could have a "Holocaust" of our very own in response to it. People don't like being bankrupted, and when it happens to a large portion of a society all at once, it is no great wonder that they would go mad with blood-lust for revenge.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/05/2013|
Yeah, I'm sure Albert Einstein would agree with Fox about scientific reason and enlightenment being the cause of the Holocaust.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/05/2013|