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Fox News guest: Scientific ‘enlightenment and reason’ led to the Holocaust

A Fox News guest on Thursday slammed President Barack Obama’s transportation secretary nominee, connecting him to an 18th century scientific movement that embraced reason, which she said was partially to blame for the Holocaust.

Fox News host Steve Doocy asked Penny Nance, CEO of the Christian activist group Concerned Women for America, if she could make any sense out of why Charlotte Mayor Anthony Foxx would proclaim May 2 as both a “Day of Prayer” and a “Day of Reason.”

“He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance, clearly he’s not running for re-election since he’s up for transportation secretary,” she opined. “You know, G. K. Chesterton said that the Doctrine of Original Sin is the only one which we have 3,000 years of empirical evidence to back up. Clearly, we need faith as a component and it’s just silly for us to say otherwise.”

“You know, the Age of Enlightenment and Reason gave way to moral relativism. And moral relativism is what led us all the way down the dark path to the Holocaust… Dark periods of history is what we arrive at when we leave God out of the equation.”

Foxx, who attends Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Charlotte, first declared a Day of Reason in 2012 at the request of Charlotte Atheists & Agnostics.

“I would like to actually thank [Charlotte] Mayor Anthony Fox for proclaiming a Day of Reason at our request,” Charlotte Atheists & Agnostics President Shawn Murphy told Raw Story in 2012. “So, we do have support locally. … We requested a proclamation from the mayor’s office to proclaim it a day of reason and he was kind enough to oblige.”

by Anonymousreply 2205/05/2013

Wow, these people really want to move backwards, like to the 15th century backwards. I guess no one told them the Age of Enlightenment and Reason also gave us the American Revolution.

by Anonymousreply 105/02/2013

“You know, the Age of Enlightenment and Reason gave way to moral relativism. "

Um... what? Reason and relativism aren't compatible with each other.

by Anonymousreply 205/02/2013

The Age of Enlightenment could not have led to moral relativism because moral relativism predates it by a few thousand years.

by Anonymousreply 305/02/2013

The Age of Enlightenment also gave rise to capitalism. Another evil.

by Anonymousreply 405/02/2013

" the Doctrine of Original Sin is the only one which we have 3,000 years of empirical evidence to back up."

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

by Anonymousreply 505/02/2013

[quote] “He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance, clearly he’s not running for re-election since he’s up for transportation secretary,” she opined

Wow. Only a troll would know that NC has the 7th highest church attendance. I'll bet she's got the states ranked according to church attendance.

by Anonymousreply 605/02/2013

I done told you people over and over again: Given the opportunity, these people would give Saudi Arabia a run for its money.

by Anonymousreply 705/02/2013

[quote]Um... what? Reason and relativism aren't compatible with each other.

Well, some people certainly reasoned their ways into relativist theories.

by Anonymousreply 805/02/2013

[quote]He comes from North Carolina, which has the 7th highest church attendance

North Carolina is also number 17 in divorce rates and has a teen pregnancy rate that is significantly higher than the national average.

by Anonymousreply 905/02/2013

How interesting. Some people hypothesize that some of the anti-semitic thinking dates back to Luther's writings about the sins of the Jews.

Below is a link to Wikipedia. I realize it is not a definitive source, but it's a starting place if you'd like to ridicule FoxNews and their ridiculous claim.

by Anonymousreply 1005/02/2013

GK Chesterton also aid

"There is nothing the matter with Americans except their ideals. The real American is all right; it is the ideal American who is all wrong"

by Anonymousreply 1105/02/2013

"Dark periods of history is what we arrive at when we leave God out of the equation"

Has she ever heard of the Inquisition? Or the Salem witch trials? Or the "troubles" in Northern Ireland? Religion has led to all kinds of horrible things throughout history.

by Anonymousreply 1205/02/2013

How about the fucking Crusades?

by Anonymousreply 1305/02/2013

R12 and R13, I bet he doesn't consider Salem or the crusades dark times.

by Anonymousreply 1405/02/2013

Translation = Republicans do not accept facts and reality.

by Anonymousreply 1505/02/2013

Two things not associated with Faux News - enlightenment and reason.

by Anonymousreply 1605/03/2013

Actually, pseudoscience (eugenics) and irrational public policy (exterminating the Jews will solve all our problems) led to the Holocaust.

by Anonymousreply 1705/03/2013

Fox is a finely crafted right wing propaganda operation, no more, no less.

by Anonymousreply 1805/03/2013

R17, Eugenics isn't pseudoscience. Throughout the 50s and 60s Germany had an extremely low number of hereditary diseases. The problem isn't that it isn't science, the problem is that it is immoral.

by Anonymousreply 1905/03/2013

R19 their application of eugenics was misguided an heavy handed. These days we have a better understanding of what is hereditary or even harmful.

by Anonymousreply 2005/05/2013

The collapse of the German mark which rendered almost everyone in Germany poor overnight led the German people to look for a scapegoat. This was obviously supplied by "the Jews," a small handful of whom got VERY, VERY rich via World War One and its aftermath when everything in the ruined Germany could be snapped up for pennies on the dollar.

If the US dollar collapses and renders a huge portion of Americans poor overnight, we could have a "Holocaust" of our very own in response to it. People don't like being bankrupted, and when it happens to a large portion of a society all at once, it is no great wonder that they would go mad with blood-lust for revenge.

by Anonymousreply 2105/05/2013

Yeah, I'm sure Albert Einstein would agree with Fox about scientific reason and enlightenment being the cause of the Holocaust.

by Anonymousreply 2205/05/2013
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