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Do women really like James Deen?

I read that Voice piece on his GF which suggested he was popular amongst female viewers and downloaded some of his work. He's attractive I guess, but he seems to really be rough and violent. Maybe it's the clips I got, but in all of them he's really nasty.

And why do girls talk while their getting fucked? It's really absurd. I feel like gay guys just moan.

by Anonymousreply 6507/31/2014

"And why do girls talk while their getting fucked? It's really absurd. I feel like gay guys just moan."

Because that pizza isn't gonna order itself. Of course, gay men groan and moan about the carbs.

by Anonymousreply 104/30/2013

He's no John Leslie that's for sure.

by Anonymousreply 205/01/2013

Hasnt he been dead a long time?

by Anonymousreply 305/01/2013

I agree OP. I admit to watching straight porn for many years. I've inadvertently happened to watch many videos of him and it was only until last year that I found out about all this "women love Deen" hoopla. I've always found him rough and gross and not at all Mr. Sensitivity. I've seen him choke (with hands or dick) women until they have tears in their eyes. And again, just vile all around.

I think he's supposed to be popular with inexperienced teen girls.

by Anonymousreply 405/01/2013

Women think he's cute until.they see what a pig he is. Straight male porn stars are generally gross looking.

by Anonymousreply 505/01/2013

I love it when he & another dude cram both of their cocks into one cunt.

by Anonymousreply 705/01/2013

He's the sensitive, hipster guy personified in porn, so of course he has legions of college chicks and hipster chicks as fans. These same girls typically dig Ryan Gosling and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, too. Yep, Gosling, JGL and James Deen. In that order.

by Anonymousreply 805/01/2013

I watch a lot of straight pron. He is one of my favorites.

Alot of his recent pron is rough but it is simply a jandra of straight pron. He is currently hired to do rough more than anything. He's good at all the jandras.

Love his big cock and his drop dead blue eyes.

by Anonymousreply 905/01/2013

r9

The word is genre. Pronounced "zhan-ra."

by Anonymousreply 1005/01/2013

Oh dear. R10 obviously is relatively new to DataLounge.

In the DataLounge world, it is jandra.

by Anonymousreply 1105/01/2013

He's not pot-bellied. He doesn't have that rough appearance that is pervasive in straight porn. Lots of young women watch porn and many are attracted to him or the idea of him because he doesn't fit their stereotype of a gross-looking porn actor.

Some of his scenes are very rough, I saw enough of two to be grossed out. He seems to enjoy very rough even violent sex where the woman is dehumanized and even raped. He's slapped women, choked them. I don't find anything sexy about that kind of aggression.

Aesthetically, yuck. He's got an above average sized dick but pancake ass. Face is just average.

by Anonymousreply 1205/01/2013

Tiffani Fat Face Thiessen doesn't like him.

by Anonymousreply 1305/01/2013

I think he's super hot, but some of his vids I've found pretty disturbing too. I saw one on myvid with James and my favorite straight actor, Bruce Venture, that was basically simulated gang rape. I couldn't get into it.

I know that we see this type of thing all the time in gay porn too, but it just seemed too real with a female actor. I get that women can like it rough, but IDK - I just wondered how far that type of thing goes in shaping the behavior of straight men.

by Anonymousreply 1605/01/2013

Deen works for a ton of different companies, the Kink.com stuff is incredibly rough BDSM stuff, but that's what he's being paid for. Whether he likes it or not is something else entirely, he's doing a job... He does plenty of scenes where it's just fun, feel good sex and those make up the bulk of his "work. Just mentioning because some were reading too much into a few scenes of his..

by Anonymousreply 1705/01/2013

Links R4, R12, R16, and ESPECIALLY R7???

by Anonymousreply 1805/01/2013

Who makes gay porn with simulated gang rape? I rarely see overly rough sex in gay porn but I wouldn't mind seeing some. What?

R18, just google "James Deen DP" and "James Deen Bruce Venture"

by Anonymousreply 1905/01/2013

No,he is an ugly troll!

by Anonymousreply 2005/01/2013

Someone post some safe for work pictures and I'll weigh in.

by Anonymousreply 2105/01/2013

A short vid of James in action.

NSFW

by Anonymousreply 2305/01/2013

r22 that chick is so damn dumb. Who on earth would believe her having sex with James Deen was an oops, stolen sex tape and not a fucking porno.

by Anonymousreply 2405/01/2013

[quote] If you ever noticed Jewish male heterosexual porn stars like Ron Jeremy, Jonah Falcon and James Deen have gotten much attention from the mainstream media.

Jonah Falcon gets a lot of press as a porn star, not a freak of nature?

by Anonymousreply 2505/01/2013

" He's attractive I guess, but he seems to really be rough and violent. Maybe it's the clips I got, but in all of them he's really nasty."

There you go. Straight women like violent (or at least male dominance) sex, even/especially if they don't talk about it.

Plus he's a little guy who can play "nerdy" and Jewish boy next door thing, which is "non-threatening." He's like 5'6, 140, or something. His dick isn't small, but it's exaggerated by at least 2 inches in anything I've read about him. It's like porn-avg, but it looks big on a little guy, especially to little girls.

You take a non-threatening looking guy and have him do rough anal on chicks= that makes women wet.

by Anonymousreply 2605/01/2013

He doesn't do much for me; I prefer dork-hipster crossover Dane Cross.

by Anonymousreply 2705/01/2013

I've seen him in many, many porn videos. Yes, I am a gay male that loves straight porn if the guys are hot. James Deen is hot.

R26 nails why Deen is so hot. Though I believe, he is more like 5'8 or 5'9.

Great in rough or vanilla porn.

by Anonymousreply 2805/02/2013

Of course women liked him. That's what made him a star. My grandmother and even my mom was in love with him and had posters of him all over her room. She even had toys of him.

by Anonymousreply 2905/02/2013

R26 is mistaken, but it's easy to see why, because there are actually two James Deens.

The 'real' Deen is the man who is very, very, good at making the sadistic violent porn that is produced for straight men, who make up the overwhelming bulk of porn consumers (i.e., the people who actually buy the stuff which drives the market).

Even though this type of straight porn is now huge, so all straight male porn stars produce their fair share of 'rough' scenes, Deen is known throughout the industry as a natural sadist who takes genuine delight in inflicting as much physical and psychological pain on his female co-stars as he can get away with. A few, such as Andy San Dimas, have spoken out about this, but the small handful of established male porn stars are far more valuable and powerful within the industry than the endless stream of of girls who come through the valley, so most are silent about it.

Then there's imaginary Deen who exists in the minds and blogs of his (much smaller than has been hyped) clique of fan girls on tumblr who make gifs of him, mostly taken from his vanilla scenes from Digital Playground and the like, eating his co-stars out and holding their hands while he fucks them with remarks like 'OMG SO ADORABLE', and 'HE IS LITERALLY THE PERFECT BOYFRIEND!!!!'.

It's bizarre. These girls have managed to take a violent dude with an established record of abuse within the industry, and turn him into the porn equivalent of a Tiger Beat pin-up. I suspect it might be their way of 'coping' with the fact that porn is ubiquitous and inescapable for todays teen and 20-something women, so they take a part of it and determinedly (and against all the actual evidence of who Deen is) turn it into THEIR fantasy.

Some idiot woman journalist picked up on this and ran with a story portraying Deen as the world's first 'sensitive' straight male porn star who represented 'what women want'. The media have been endlessly regurgitating this line since, which causes confusion for most people when they look up his stuff online and encounter the 'real' Deen smirking like Ted Bundy in the middle of a gangbang.

Porn photographer Nate Igor Smith basically summed the whole thing up on twitter:

by Anonymousreply 3005/02/2013

This porn piece of shit, James Deranged, sounds like a psychopath! The percentage of viewers who watch male porn stars simulate rape scenes, making the woman the victim, chocking and abusing women in theses porn videos are men. What is scarey are men who like to watch this sick shit! because these acts are mimicking real life crimes against women. The women that like James Deranged are either sheeple, or very stupid, or it's an inflated PR lie made up by a bunch of sleaze bag straight male pigs who run the garbage porn machine who are sending a message to straight men, that women like to be rapped and sexually terrorized and their fantasy has come true because look! why! even women like to watch this! right!

by Anonymousreply 3105/02/2013

He really does look like Ted Bundy.

by Anonymousreply 3205/02/2013

[quote] There you go. Straight women like violent (or at least male dominance) sex, even/especially if they don't talk about it.

Actually, what I like about him is that he pays attention to the woman's clit. He makes sure she gets off too (not "fake" get off, either - so not just penetration).

by Anonymousreply 3305/02/2013

No.

by Anonymousreply 3405/02/2013

[quote]the small handful of established male porn stars are far more valuable and powerful within the industry than the endless stream of of girls who come through the valley

That is completely untrue. Women are much more highly valued and compensated for work in porn than men are--it's the reason for all the "gay for pay" crap, since men are paid better in gay porn than they are in straight. There is not a knowledgeable person who works in or has worked in that industry who would say anything different. It is simply uninformed and, frankly, wishful thinking in that it would prop up the very crudest sort of feminist critique of the industry.

by Anonymousreply 3505/02/2013

Great post R30. He does sound like a textbook psychopath/sociopath.

It's not a coincidence that his popularity coincides with the success of "50 Shades" which is essentially another idiotic fantasy about a psychopath being transformed by a woman's love.

I disagree with you about him having the psychopathic "look." I've always associated that look with a long, masculine face, sharp nose and cold "shark" eyes. Michael Bay, Ari Emanuel and Simon Halls are good examples (among the many, many in Hollywood.)

by Anonymousreply 3605/02/2013

The low-pay, low-status thing is true for the 'mopes' in the industry who hang around on the fringes and supply the bodies for the bukkake and gangbang scenes, R35.

But the handful of TOP male porn stars who have 20-year plus long scenes make a lot of money (Deen boasted he made $25,000 a month) and are highly valued because very few men can actually be relied on to maintain wood and come on cue day in, day out.

The idea that the actresses are all rich and in control similarly only applies to those at the top of the industry. The pool of largely unknown girls on the bottom have to do pretty much what the agents and directors tell them to do, and if they speak out on abuse, they are blackballed.

Even Andy San Dimas, who was one of the most popular actresses in the biz (Female Performer of the Year nominated), was afraid to name James Deen in the interview where she described him deliberately doing things to her that she had specifically said she didn't want to do (hitting her in the face repeatedly, spitting in her face, lifting her by the hair and dragging her across the room) and afterwards being obviously delighted by the trauma he caused her. But she gives enough details in the interview that it is clear which scene and which male performer she is describing.

"Rocco has far more power in this industry than any actress," said Stagliano".

Guess John Stagliano doesn't count as a 'knowledgable person' in the industry, huh?

by Anonymousreply 3705/02/2013

The low-pay, low-status thing is true for the 'mopes' in the industry who hang around on the fringes and supply the bodies for the bukkake and gangbang scenes, R35.

But the handful of TOP male porn stars who have 20-year plus long scenes make a lot of money (Deen boasted he made $25,000 a month) and are highly valued because very few men can actually be relied on to maintain wood and come on cue day in, day out.

The idea that the actresses are all rich and in control similarly only applies to those at the top of the industry. The pool of largely unknown girls on the bottom have to do pretty much what the agents and directors tell them to do, and if they speak out on abuse, they are blackballed.

Even Andy San Dimas, who was one of the most popular actresses in the biz (Female Performer of the Year nominated), was afraid to name James Deen in the interview where she described him deliberately doing things to her that she had specifically said she didn't want to do (hitting her in the face repeatedly, spitting in her face, lifting her by the hair and dragging her across the room) and afterwards being obviously delighted by the trauma he caused her. But she gives enough details in the interview that it is clear which scene and which male performer she is describing.

"Rocco has far more power in this industry than any actress," said Stagliano".

Guess John Stagliano doesn't count as a 'knowledgable person' in the industry, huh?

by Anonymousreply 3805/02/2013

Okay, I concede the point on "mopes" vs. "stars"--but please note that the article you link is over a decade old.

The situation across the industry has changed considerably since then. The pool of nobodies needing to do anything to survive more or less describes the majority now. It's a male-dominated industry behind the camera, yes, but there are still fewer bankable male stars than there are female.

by Anonymousreply 3905/02/2013

Interesting re. Andy San Dimas and her interview - I say this as someone who likes Deen's vanilla stuff, but has never watched his kinkier stuff.

How do you know that he isn't the "nice guy" that she refers to in the scene? I suppose because he tends to be the one whispering things, which would distinguish him from the "nice guy" in this narrative.

Also, it doesn't seem that he broke Andy's safeword or went against her consent - unless I am missing something? - in the interview you referred to, R30. It sounds like it was rough and degrading, but did she not give consent for rough/degrading sex? I am not trying to pick apart your post; I am genuinely curious.

(Interview attached.)

by Anonymousreply 4005/02/2013

Thanks R30. It's what I felt about all the attention he's gotten. The sensitive guy meme does not compute with his actual work.

by Anonymousreply 4105/02/2013

I am female j.d. disgusts me. He's a rapist rapist pig money grubbing stupido. My daughter thinks he's learn ing disabled. Rock on loverly gay boyz !!! luv m.

by Anonymousreply 4205/22/2013

Please tell me R42 is a troll post. "Learn ing disabled" indeed.

by Anonymousreply 4305/22/2013

Yes! I love the intensity and intimacy he creates in a scene. He is always looking intensely into his partners eyes. Even when he does more BDSM scenes, you can see how in touch he is to make sure his partner is always ok. Love his groans and the soft muttering into his partners ears. Adds to the whole experience. Can't get enough of him!

by Anonymousreply 4408/17/2013

Many women like rough sex and BDSM porn...I can't get off to anything vanilla. I think James is ok, he's versatile and has a good sense of humor. I couldn't care less how "sensitive" he comes across. There's a dearth of good-looking men with personality in straight porn so we have to take what we can get.

by Anonymousreply 4508/17/2013

R8, don't forget Sufjan Stevens

by Anonymousreply 4608/17/2013

How could we forget Sufjan, he's on our team.

by Anonymousreply 4708/17/2013

I recently saw Deen in The Canyons. For someone who's never acted outside porn, he was surprisingly good.

In fact, he was entirely convincing as a possessive, controlling, manipulative, abusive sociopath. Take it for what it's worth.

I will give him credit for doing a gay/bi sex scene.

by Anonymousreply 4808/17/2013

I don't watch porn but what I have read about James Deen is completely unappealing.

I read an article on Jezebel, the author was in lust with heterosexual Asian porn star Keni Styles. After watching a video of his-I love his accent and his demeanor, I wish all straight male porn stars were like him

by Anonymousreply 4908/17/2013

I do

by Anonymousreply 5008/17/2013

Most women don't care about visual porn. Porn for women is stuff like 50 Shades of Grey - romance novels. I bet most of the people watching his movies are gay guys. Kind of like how most Playgirl subscribers are male...

by Anonymousreply 5108/17/2013

Oh, please. Plenty of women like porn movies. 50 Shades of Grey is shitty Twilight fanfic for flyover fraus You are delusional, R51.

by Anonymousreply 5208/17/2013

R45/52 = this woman:

by Anonymousreply 5308/18/2013

Almost all women are into rough sex and rape fantasies. I hang out with young liberal college chicks and they ALL talk about how much they like to have a guy pull their hair/slap them/"rape" them. Women have never liked "nice" or "sensitive" guys sexually.

by Anonymousreply 5408/18/2013

Where can I see his vids

by Anonymousreply 5508/18/2013

I just happened on a gif of him with two women, shot from behind him. HE HAS NO ASS WHATSOEVER. Like an ironing board back there.

by Anonymousreply 5609/01/2013

i like mr James Deen ho so nice and good fucker man wish u

by Anonymousreply 5707/31/2014

If he were gay he would be crucified.

by Anonymousreply 5807/31/2014

R44 covered it.

by Anonymousreply 5907/31/2014

how can i meet Mr jemes Deen want fuck by his wow really amazing man

by Anonymousreply 6007/31/2014

I find him very bland and the shaved pubes don't help either.

by Anonymousreply 6107/31/2014

His whole "I love my job as I get to fuck hot women all day" reads to me as he hates his job and is just trying to be a bro.

by Anonymousreply 6207/31/2014

How can i meet with Mr James

by Anonymousreply 6307/31/2014

please contact me with porno stars company

by Anonymousreply 6407/31/2014

Alright, will do R64.

by Anonymousreply 6507/31/2014
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