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Do You Care About 9/11 Anymore?

It was such a long time ago. Can't even remember what color the sky was that day now.

by Anonymousreply 7709/28/2013


by Anonymousreply 104/27/2013

I remember and care. Just youtube a video of one of the towers coming down or the plane hitting. People jumping to their deaths a running for their lives.

by Anonymousreply 204/27/2013

I believe that the CIA and Bush administration planned and executed the whole thing and I don't know if they simply wanted to go bomb Iraq or if they had more then one agenda? You could say, I care.

by Anonymousreply 304/27/2013

Knock knock.

Who's there?


9/11 who?


by Anonymousreply 404/27/2013

I don't fret and get upset about it every day. But when I see any video footage, it still hurts.

Yeah, I care. What a question.

by Anonymousreply 504/27/2013

Mecca still exists, so we're not done with responding.

by Anonymousreply 604/27/2013

I still care. But while I don't think of it as much as I used to I still think of it more than I want to.

by Anonymousreply 704/27/2013

The world definitely changed that day - a paradigm shift, the result of a staged ritual. I wonder about kids born after it. Their existence isn't "normal" in my estimation. They don't have a frame of reference to a pre-surveillance state, to a time before ridiculous airport tension (largely manufactured military theatre), deliberately dumbed down celebrities who question nothing and won't shut up about "supporting our troops", FOXNews mentality becoming mainstream, etc.

by Anonymousreply 804/27/2013


Do you think no other nation, nor the US for that matter, hasn't had big nation-changing events bfore 9/11? lol

by Anonymousreply 904/27/2013

I'm not talking about other nations. I'm talking about whether or not I care about 9/11 anymore. I didn't realize I was asked to describe the experiences of people who are not me. Pearl Harbor is maybe the closest relative to a localized U.S. event, but doesn't compare to 911. Maybe Oklahoma bombing as a contender? You go on back to lol'ing now, R9, you reptilian queen.

by Anonymousreply 1004/27/2013

Get a hold of yourself R9 The topic is 9/11, not "Other nations that experienced big nation-changing events".

by Anonymousreply 1104/27/2013

Nice post r8. I agree.

by Anonymousreply 1204/27/2013

The islamic terrorists in Boston was a reminder that 9/11 was just a start of the hate that islam has for America.

by Anonymousreply 1304/27/2013

r10, the assassination of Kennedy killed the 'innocence' of the country. It was all downhill after that.

Did you hear/experience the air raid drills, where kids had to get underneath their beds and desks preparing for the bomb to drop?

What about Vietnam, and the Draft?

by Anonymousreply 1404/27/2013

R6=stray freeper.

by Anonymousreply 1504/27/2013

With the Pubbies, New York's 9-11 mayor, and freaks like Lisa Beamer shoving it at us for years and years, I don't want to dwell on it. As a moment in history, it's an important date and is right up there with Dec. 7, 1941. I have no interest in visiting the memorial nor care about what ugly building replaces it.

Now, while we're remembering dates, let's not forget the important anniversary we have coming on May 1st.

by Anonymousreply 1604/27/2013

Blue, then grey.

by Anonymousreply 1704/27/2013

There's no statute of limitation on mass murder and treason OP, as we know from the Kennedy assassination.

by Anonymousreply 1804/27/2013

I was so shocked by the Oklahoma City bombing that 9/11 did not hit me as hard. I'm sure I would have been more affected if I lived in NYC.

I realized a number of years ago that we may as well get used to bombings because they're going to become part of life.

OKC was harder to process because it was domestic terrorism and was carried out for some pretty damn stupid reasons.

by Anonymousreply 1904/27/2013

R3, ITA with you. People, even so called Liberals like Rachel Maddow act like we're crazy to believe the obvious. Just follow who profited the most from 911...W and Cheney.

by Anonymousreply 2004/27/2013

I don't think about it everyday, but how can you look at the skyline and NOT think about it?

by Anonymousreply 2104/27/2013

[quote]how can you look at the skyline and NOT think about it?

When I look at the skyline, I see palm trees, sand, and the ocean. Why would that make anyone think about 9/11?

by Anonymousreply 2204/27/2013

Some of you are so insular.

by Anonymousreply 2304/27/2013

I was very upset by the Oklahoma City bombing but frankly, I'm old, so I've been upset and angry about many events in our history.

The worst part is, I blame our own government for many of those events.

by Anonymousreply 2404/28/2013

This thread seems to be a place for raging queens to dump their crap.

To answer your question, OP: I don't think about it much now. But when old stories come up it still makes me cry.

by Anonymousreply 2504/28/2013

It was an inside, so it's depressing by now that more people can't see that.

by Anonymousreply 2604/28/2013

[quote]It was an inside, so it's depressing by now that more people can't see that.

We "can't" see it, or you are nuts. Which could it be?

by Anonymousreply 2704/28/2013

The sky was blue that day, OP, at least it started out that way. Yes, I still care about it but not as much as I did at the time, that's just natural.

The most depressing thing about 9/11 these days is the number of fuckwitted fools who buy into GED level conspiracy theories about it.

Years of preparation from Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Fox have warped their minds to the point where the government they are certain is totally incompetent is also a modern-day Dr. No organization.

Oklahoma City affected me more than 9/11. On 9/11 and on Marathon Day, my first thought was that it was the friends of Timothy McVeigh. I'm still a lot more afraid of those homegrown fuckers than I am of Muslims.

by Anonymousreply 2804/28/2013

The "official" story has more holes than a brick of Swiss cheese, but hey ... I'm just a doofus.

("Hi, Mom, it's me, Mark Bingham." Most folks identify themselves to their parents including surname, no?)

by Anonymousreply 2904/28/2013

yeah, my nightmares have all but stopped.


by Anonymousreply 3004/28/2013

Something like 126 were killed in the Oklahoma bombing.

3 were killed in the Boston bombing (plus severe injuries)

Almost 3000 (around 2763) were killed in the World Trade Center being hit by airplanes.

Plus it created toxic air with carcinogenic particles filling the air for months.

Lower Manhattan was uninhabitable.

It was traumatic that all people in two airplanes which flew into the World Trade Ctr bldgs were incinerated. Including another plane in Pennsylvania.

Over 600 people who worked in one financial firm lost their lives.

People were forced to jump 20, 40, 50 and more stories to their deaths rather than be burned to death.

Oklahoma and Boston have little in common with the World Trade Center catastrophe.

Anyone who says Oklahoma bombing hit you harder lacks intelligence, breadth of knowledge, fundamental common sense, ability to read newspapers, and ability to be interested in events outside of your own region.

by Anonymousreply 3104/28/2013

[quote]("Hi, Mom, it's me, Mark Bingham." Most folks identify themselves to their parents including surname, no?)

Which is more likely? A man facing an imminent violent death gets flustered and begins the call to his mother as if it were a business call, or the people who faked the whole thing did it on purpose as a clue?

by Anonymousreply 3204/28/2013

Almost 3000 people were incinerated as the World Trade Center buildings toppled down into dust and wreckage.

People on the ground had to run for their lives as enormous clouds of asbestos, debri, incinerated building parts and heavey toxic dust stormed down the side streets.

by Anonymousreply 3304/28/2013

sorry, heavy

by Anonymousreply 3404/28/2013

I'm from Boston, R31, and I've lived in NYC. A lot of my friends still live there. I've never even been to Oklahoma City on a layover, you dumb cunt.

It's not a question of "what attack killed more people" nor is it a regional pissing contest. It's not about determining which was "worse" that's an impossible task. Ask any family member of any victim of any terrorist attack and regardless of where or when it happened and who did it, no one's pain is worse or more important or more meaningful than anyone else's.

By the time 9/11 and Marathon Day happened, Oklahoma City had already done its work and it could not be undone. It wasn't just Oklahoma City either. Clinics had been bombed and doctors had been targeted and assassinated. The crazy fuckers who now routinely run for office and WIN were on the rise. We can all see where this has taken us. These insane reactionaries have become widely accepted in this country. If that doesn't scare the shit out of you more than Al fucking Qaeda then nothing will and you're a fool.

by Anonymousreply 3504/28/2013

I knew several people who were killed, am a NY native and was here during and since, Americans' complete disregard for others makes me not care so much anymore. We willfully killed tens of thousands of people who had nothing to do with it in countries that were not involved.

The huge majority of Americans simply did not or do not care about this glaring fact. The bullshit was so obvious.

Must say I didn't care much about the carnage in Boston.

by Anonymousreply 3604/28/2013

really r36? That's fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 3704/28/2013

OP, the sky was green like the grass, like the trees, like Frankenstein's monster.

by Anonymousreply 3804/28/2013

R36, please emigrate as soon as possible.

by Anonymousreply 3904/28/2013

Assholes have been doing this for a while but, the most popular theme on Datalounge lately seems to be to say the most ridiculous things. Posters will whip others into a frenzy and gleefully respond.

by Anonymousreply 4004/28/2013

So true, R40. It's tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 4104/28/2013

I was 18 when JFK was murdered. 911 was worse. I felt real pain and anger which lasted a long time.

When it changed to be about the MONEY and who OWNS the tragedy, my spiritual side of it clicked off. Just like that. That's the bad part.

The good part is that "they" will have to top 911 to hurt us again, which is unlikely. Boston certainly did not do it, though many people tried/are trying to stretch it to do so.

by Anonymousreply 4204/28/2013

I hate the impact side effects 9/11 has had. Despite the lofty rhetoric that tries to imply the opposite, 9/11 HAS changed who we are as Americans. It HAS changed our way of life. Everytime we take off our shoes/throw away a water bottle at the airport, we show who won that day. It's all so fucking depressing.

by Anonymousreply 4304/28/2013

R42 here, agreeing with R43. I hate it too. We ARE changed, and damaged, and it angers very much. The "good" side to that is that we are also immunized.

by Anonymousreply 4404/28/2013

I care about it! How else would I have made all this money?

by Anonymousreply 4504/29/2013

Biggest psy-op in American history. Nobody asked questions, everybody just bought little US flags for the antennae on their cars. And here were are

by Anonymousreply 4604/30/2013

Yes, OP, it was a long time ago. Twelve whole years, just about your age, right dear?

by Anonymousreply 4704/30/2013

Considering that the children born after 9-11 are almost teenage, yes I'd say it's time to move on.

by Anonymousreply 4804/30/2013

I lived in NYC and was a medical responder. Sometimes it seems like yesterday and sometimes it seems like it happened so far in the past that I can't be in touch with it.

I'm mostly just disgusted by how it was used by the media, the government and the public. For ratings, for warmongering, for profit and for a fucking emotional and physical bloodbath. If I had died that day I would be mortified for all eternity by what has been done in my name.

by Anonymousreply 4904/30/2013

R46: You mean like the fact that at that time it's been confirmed that those American Airlines jets had NO Airphones onboard, and that it would have been nearly impossible to obtain a "cell phone" connection at all, let alone maintain one for a sustained conversation about boxcutters, etc.?

by Anonymousreply 5004/30/2013

r3/r20 and other conspiracy nuts are historical vandals. You should question your government's motive, but to lay claim that bombs brought down the Towers; that Sandy Hook, Aurora is staged and no one died; or that the FBI is responsible for the Boston bombings that's just crazy talk.

by Anonymousreply 5104/30/2013

I care about 9/11 every day, since I commute through the WTC on my way to work. The new construction there pales in comparison to those original (albeit architecturally outdated) twin towers. I miss their impact on the NYC skyline. Now I have to wind my way past street vendors who continue to make $$$ from tourists with their full-color souvenir booklets "The Day that Changed America" and "9/11 - Let Us Not Forget". It makes me want to vomit!!!

I do think it's a mistake to continue to recognize the day with the ceremonial reading of the names, etc. While I completely respect the families of the victims, I think enough time has passed where the day can be acknowledged with quiet personal remembrances. It seems that that would be more healing than an annual death parade.

I will always remember that 9/11/01 was a clear, bright sunny day, in stark contrast to the events that unfolded that day.

by Anonymousreply 5204/30/2013

R51 believes any lie the lying liars in the US media shove down his gullible unquestioning throat.

You can't fake physical science and the official explanation of 9/11 defies the laws of physics. Therefore it is false. Yes, Virginia, it is that simple.

by Anonymousreply 5304/30/2013

Don't lump everyone who believes Bush and Cheney were behind 911 with the other things, R53. I do not for a second believe any of the other things were done by the government.

Also, every single day heaven knows how many in this "great" country die because of government caused poverty. Who is crying for them? Who reads their names off every year? They have my sympathy. The elderly who now are starving and dying of cancer while the rich don't have to wait an extra 5 minutes to catch a plane have my sympathy. Children who go to school and go to bed hungry every day have my sympathy. Poor childless adults who can't get medical care no matter if they are dying have my sympathy as do those minimum wage workers who died in the towers just trying to get by. The WS, banking and Corp big wigs…not so much.

by Anonymousreply 5404/30/2013

Oh man, I totally screwed up @ R54.

R54 was posted by R20, not R51 and it was a reply to R51. Sorry, R53 and R51, at least for posting with your number, R51. Crap, have to learn not to post when I'm in a rush.

by Anonymousreply 5504/30/2013

We all know the details about what happened but we have to move on. The victims who were trapped in those buildings would not want us to make the event a fetish object for grief porn - they did not want to be in those buildings - they wanted to get out of there and be free. And yet all we ever hear about are the buildings and not the people who died in them. We hear about fire, heat, anguish and violent death and we never hear about the stories of people that survived and helped others through the hour of peril that should make us glad to be alive.

by Anonymousreply 5604/30/2013

I think people who buy the official explanation are either subnormal or deranged.

by Anonymousreply 5704/30/2013

[quote]I hate the impact side effects 9/11 has had. Despite the lofty rhetoric that tries to imply the opposite, 9/11 HAS changed who we are as Americans. It HAS changed our way of life. Everytime we take off our shoes/throw away a water bottle at the airport, we show who won that day. It's all so fucking depressing.

This will not be fully realized for many years, the total side effects. And really, no one will ever stop caring about 9/11, so people should stop holding their breath. If nothing else, 9/11 is a major dividing point in the history of American civilization and the world. It happened right at the turn of the century, in the first year of the new millennium, so it is a perfect time point to section off this era of American civilization in history.

by Anonymousreply 5804/30/2013

Especially if they are Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 5904/30/2013

If you had an upstairs neighbor who perished on the 86th floor like I did, you would definitely think and care about it. He was the nicest man. when I see his wife and daughter, my heart just breaks for their loss. I sometimes think that I could have been in the buildings because my work took me there occassionally. Go visit the memorial and that will answer your question OP. It is very powerful.

by Anonymousreply 6004/30/2013

I care about the people who were affected and suffered. I do not care about the structured mourning that has been going on for the last 12 years. It is total grief porn. This local gallery does a yearly fall show with an opening reception in early September. Their opening in 2011 fell on 9/11, so they had this entire room of 9/11 "tribute" art, it was so fucking weird and obvious. I hated it.

by Anonymousreply 6104/30/2013

We have an old boy who lives in our neighborhood, almost 10 years. Has never hurt another animal, but has at times forgotten he should be "home" before the sun rises. Rocky

R61-I smelled the burning bodies for 6 months. I will never forget.

by Anonymousreply 6204/30/2013

R61-the Racoon Story was to be placed in another thread, Please accept my apologies.

by Anonymousreply 6304/30/2013

I think the adoption of the name "9-11" is odd. This kind of nomenclature for events is more common in China and Taiwan (for example, Taiwan's 921 Earthquake), but I can't think of another American event which is named in this way.

by Anonymousreply 6404/30/2013

I thought "9/11" and "Ground Zero" were so dumb-sounding and disrespectful at the beginning, but both stuck.

by Anonymousreply 6504/30/2013

168 people died in the Oklahoma City Bombing, including 15 babies/children.

Each year the city hosts a Memorial Marathon, they just had 24,000 run/walk last Saturday.

The Memorial is beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 6604/30/2013

I remember it fondly, and the billions its aftermath made for me and Halliburton!

by Anonymousreply 6704/30/2013

I made a shrine in my spare bedroom after 9/11 and lit candles for the victims every day for a year following the tragedy. I had planned to take the shrine down after a mourning year, but just couldn't bring myself to do it. It's still set up and I still have a gathering in my apartment on the anniversary every year where we hold a prayer service and light candles. As the most profound event in US history, it's worth commemorating so we don't repeat the same mistakes again.

by Anonymousreply 6804/30/2013

yes i remember apparently homeland security has forgotten though

by Anonymousreply 6904/30/2013

The toxic side effects ensure that no one is allowed to forget, including:

Full freedom now for the government to suppress basic freedoms. The liberty vs security debate has never been more important, yet SCOTUS has allowed Congress to skull fuck the population, whilst the corporations have profited.

11 years of futile war, bringing American 'freedom' to an unwilling middle eastern populace. So no freedom at all for them, then.

The right for every right wing asshole to isolate and exclude people following one of the 3 major religions simply because of radicalism, which exists in every religion, whatever an individual's own belief or opinion a out the attackers .

The right for any asshole take your life a misery simply by joining the TSA.

The rise in influence of the Defense Dept and the armed services.

There are others. Including sleight of hand about the numbers killed and seriously injured (military and civilian), misinformation (fuck it, flat out lying) to the US Ccitizenry by the government, and the enormous, unimaginable dollar-cost of the 'war on terror'. Basically, schools have paid the cost of the war. So that's a future generation ignorant and cowed by the military and the government.

And ironically, America's tantrum about 9/11 has cost more American lives, and more Americans their basic 'freedoms' than the original attack. I imagine that this is exactly what the original attackers hoped to achieve.

by Anonymousreply 7004/30/2013

70. Completely agree with everything. I think the terrorists are a lot more clever than most believe, they're not just irrational cave monkeys motivated by nothing else than religious extremism. They knew the effect the attack would have, and the fear and chaos it would bring to the US. Not to mention the cost. They know about the US debt; who doesn't. Watch out for China, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 7104/30/2013

Oh and I'm not a complete idiot. Of course airline security should be a priority, as should the protection of all citizens by any government.

But 9/11 allows the US government to be a complete dick about it if it so chooses.

by Anonymousreply 7204/30/2013

R72 = r70

Sorry, forgot to sign.

And sorry, too, for the typos in my first post. iPhone fucking type pads.

by Anonymousreply 7304/30/2013

It happen such a long time ago. We should forget about it. Because in the future well be still doing it for nothing really.

by Anonymousreply 7409/27/2013

Yes, I care. Those people jumped not because they were burning, but because the were roasting to death. Think about it. Every time you fly, it's a reminder of 9/11.

by Anonymousreply 7509/28/2013

I also hate that the phrase "ground zero" has been applied to this event. I used to use it gay bars and amusement parks to mean the spot a group would meet in a large crowded place after separating, to get together again to travel home together. Now it wouldn't be appropriate. I'm just saying.

by Anonymousreply 7609/28/2013

9/11 is right up there with the attack on Pearl Harbor, the burning of Atlanta, Martha Washington's fruitcake, and Benedict Arnold's treachery.

by Anonymousreply 7709/28/2013
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