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Idiots who babble on against regulation and the magic of the "Free Market"...

Anyone who wants to see what a truly free market would look like should study the America and the UK of the Nineteenth Century: child labor, black lung, robber barons, the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, hundreds of thousands of dead Chinese railroad workers, the Grant Administration's many scandals, etc... This list could go on and on... Regulation is vital to the PROTECTION of the free market. Without regulation, the free market descends into Darwinian anarchy and becomes one big boom and bust until it ends in depression. ...more

by Anonymousreply 2204/28/2013

But, but, but....corporations will always do the right thing, they are people too!

by Anonymousreply 104/24/2013

They are not idiots, they know damn well what they are doing.

It is the masses who continue to believe this nonsense, who are the idiots.

by Anonymousreply 204/24/2013

Look at the funeral of Margaret Thatcher, the great Free Market advocate who started the UK on the road to privatization and the end of the welfare state. Her funeral cost the equivalent of $15 million dollars, all on the public tab, a substantial portion of which was security to help the celebrity mourners feel safe from all the people who showed up to sing "Ding, Dong, the Witch is Dead" and turn their backs on the coffin.

by Anonymousreply 304/24/2013

Perhaps, R2. But I still think they're idiots because the can never survive in the long term. Either they get their comeuppance, or the system collapses and they lose it all anyway.

by Anonymousreply 404/24/2013


by Anonymousreply 504/25/2013

"Free Market" meaning the Corporations are free to do whatever they want to the people.

The word "free" is being radically abused in this term.

by Anonymousreply 604/26/2013

Remember how these tools demonized John Kenneth Galbraith when he said the consumer didn't have the same power to set prices as corporations.

by Anonymousreply 704/28/2013

Just before the oil shocks proved him absolutely right.

by Anonymousreply 804/28/2013

Sadly his son is a sellout who thinks China's flooding our market under aggressively undervalued currency is good for us.

by Anonymousreply 904/28/2013

Governments always do the right thing? You are trading one "evil" for another, more sinister, one.

by Anonymousreply 1004/28/2013

No, R10. The government is "we the people" and has no profit motive to screw us over... unlike corporate plutocracy. Government is the only thing standing between us and corporate fascism.

by Anonymousreply 1104/28/2013

R11. So, we have had a choice in wars, assassinations, internment camps, and all other government atrocities? Government and religion are the most corrupt organizations.

by Anonymousreply 1204/28/2013

R12, right behind for-profit corporations (including for-profit health-care, for-profit prisons, etc). The main problem with what you've cited is the for-profit military industrial complex. This is not a necessary outgrowth of government.

You seem to be confused about what government is, actually. It's not difficult to understand why, given how our government has been so co-opted by right-wing corporatists and bought by plutocrats, but hey, you should at least understand the how and the why of its necessary existence.

by Anonymousreply 1304/28/2013

And the left has never forced a hand? Obama has kept Guantanamo open, remained in Afghanistan, taken drone warfare to a new level, appointed numerous czars, and shoved obamacare down our throat by threatening those up for reelection. Government is fucking vile and should be marginalized.

by Anonymousreply 1404/28/2013

R14, Obama hasn't been allowed to close Guantanamo. Huge difference. Obama is withdrawing from Afghanistan as we speak.

The "appointed numerous czars" is just bullshit FOX News type spin. Seriously, are you fucking kidding me? You don't even grasp how our government works do you? EVERY president appoints people to take charge of certain tasks. No one man can do it all. And Obama has faced more, and more serious challenges than most.

And "shoved obamacare down our throats"?? More ignorant, misinformed idiocy. It passed congress, is supported by a majority of Americans, and is constitutional, and is FAR BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're just parroting/regurgitating talking points you don't even understand you ignorant ass.

You are a moron. YOU should be marginalized. YOU are what is wrong with this country.

by Anonymousreply 1504/28/2013

R14 is one of those "idiots" mentioned in the OP. Clearly.

by Anonymousreply 1604/28/2013

R15. You seem to be the parrot to me. Different views. I'm not sure you grasp government either. The right allows a much more critical thinking approach instead of the blind devotion to dear leader the democrats require. So, so sad.

Please explain how Obama, the commander in chief, couldn't make a change on Guantanamo? Was Eric holder in his way??

by Anonymousreply 1704/28/2013

Case in point

by Anonymousreply 1804/28/2013

R14 is coming down from her weekend vodka/meth binge.

by Anonymousreply 1904/28/2013

R19. Go wipe your mom's ass.

by Anonymousreply 2004/28/2013

Let's say hypothetically that Obama was a total sellout tool of Wall Street. Does that mean liberalism is as bad or worse as conservatism, and government as evil as corporations, only more so because they have guns? No, obviously not. We can get rid of Obama. We have no power over a corporate CEO except what we give Obama. Meanwhile, conservatism, libertarianism, nineteenth century liberalism: all proven economic disasters. The eocnomy needs government, it needs regulation, and it needs income redistribution and efforts to make the game more fair.

by Anonymousreply 2104/28/2013

[quote]The right allows a much more critical thinking approach instead of the blind devotion to dear leader the democrats require. So, so sad.

R17, that is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the truth. The left is all about independent and critical thinking. The right is all about lock-step falling in line behind dear leader... the Texas GOP even went so far as to make it a party platform plank to oppose the teaching of critical thinking skills.

You're either a troll, or you're completely loonie.

by Anonymousreply 2204/28/2013
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