I've been to another discussion forum, about politics, where one Republican voter -- one who has said he/she is a birther -- continuously uses the middle name "Hussein" while posting anything anti-President Obama.
[italic]Barack [bold]Hussein[/bold] Obama[/italic]
Do you think people who do this are racist?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/17/2013|
It's some combination of xenophobia and racism
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/16/2013|
I actually know lots of people who do this precisely to show solidarity with President Obama.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/16/2013|
He's just saying it because the media played it down. Why bother with him? Nobody cared then and nobody cares now.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/16/2013|
I can't see racism in it. There's an implicit 'he's Muslim' ... I expect those types of people would be as unhinged about any Democratic president, black, while, male, female, whatever. The middle name is just an easy win for them.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/16/2013|
It's not racist, but it's typical conservative smearing designed to suggest to likeminded idiots that Obama is FOREIGN in some way, i.e. not a real american and possibly islamic.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/16/2013|
Do you know Joanne Woodward's middle names?
Joanne Gignilliat Trimmier Woodward
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/16/2013|
It's technically not racism, but it is bigotry and intentionally hostile, so I voted yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/16/2013|
It's a McCain lady thing. Remember McCann lady: he's a, he's a, he's a A-rab. In an odd way, actual racism would be an intellectual step up for those types.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/16/2013|
I think they emphasize the "foreign"-ness of the name "Hussein," (xenophobia) because of underlying racism ( i.e.: this Other/Black person is not someone who should be president)
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/16/2013|
[quote]I think they emphasize the "foreign"-ness of the name "Hussein,"
Because "Barack Obama" is so white bread. Its a link to what their intended audience (idiots) see as the culprit of 9/11 - Saddam Hussein.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/17/2013|
They're under the delusion that there isn't a single, tax-paying American with the name "Hussein." They're idiots using it as a pejorative because they think a name alone determines if one is good or bad.
It's absolutely bigoted.
Classic right-wing idiocy. Nothing new.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/17/2013|
ummmm, that is in fact his name. Not much different than saying George W Bush.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/17/2013|
R13: Stop being such a moron. Seriously. And the "ummmm" doesn't help.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/17/2013|
Shall they call him Barack David Obama? What about Barack Mary Obama? Hussein is his middle name, unless I am missing something.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/17/2013|
Why say his middle name at all, unless you're trying to make a dog-whistle point? Just call him President Obama.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/17/2013|
George W Bush was rarely called George W Bush by left wing critics. He was called President Bush. Its people like Ann Coulter who love to say it, then play coy like "well it is his name".
Yes, we always said William Jefferson Clinton, all the time. I don't even know what Ronald Reagan or Bush 1's middle names are.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/17/2013|
Yeah, you're missing that part of your brain where you comprehend that they specifically use his middle name to accentuate his "foreigness."
People even noticed it was left out at the second inauguration. Don't be a fucking idiot. They kept using "H."
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/17/2013|
R17 - actually, George W Bush was called Mr Bush by left wing critics and very rarely President Bush. God fucking forbid we reference dear leader as Mr. Obama.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/17/2013|
Way to miss the point, R19. And Mr. Obama is perfectly fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/17/2013|
And at what point did they refer to him as "Walker," R19? God forbid you admit the truth about your fucking transparent bigoted party.
We know exactly why they use "Hussein," so you're either a fucking idiot or a liar. Don't even attempt to act like it's used nonchalantly. Are you really going to pretend there isn't hostility towards minorities, particularly Muslims?
I mean shit, the bombs were still going off in Boston, yet the rightwing didn't waste anytime telling us a dozen were killed at the hands of a Saudi.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/17/2013|
My god you people can find racism in the opening of an envelope.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/17/2013|
[quote]actually, George W Bush was called Mr Bush by left wing critics and very rarely President Bush.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/17/2013|
George W. Bush was called George W. Bush to differentiate him from his father George H. W. Bush.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/17/2013|
Also, calling him "W" was a folksy PR move formulated by his goons. The use of "hussein" by the right wing is used as a pathetic smear.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/17/2013|
It's not "racism." It's xenophobia and bigotry and we know exactly why the right-wing does it. I'm embarrassed for you that you're attempting to dismiss the reason knowing full-well how the right-wing feels about Muslims in particular.
The right-wing isn't known for being clever. They're incredibly simplistic when it comes to their hate of anyone who they consider "other."
So I'll chalk your attitude up to idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/17/2013|
So what? It IS his middle name. If ol Obama doesn't like it. He should have changed it. Besides, he is a muzzz.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/17/2013|
Dear leader is the most arrogant, self-aware, self-promoting, egotistical politician the country has ever known. If his middle name was of concern to him, he would have changed it. Nothing about this person is something he didn't manufacture or condone.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/17/2013|
Says the semi-literate moron at R27
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/17/2013|
Moreso xenophobia than racism. In their eyes, America is a Judeo-Christian and Eurocentric society and names that don't fit with that ideal are suspicious and looked down upon with disdain. I don't think it necessarily has to do with color because if Obama was Mexican or Chinese, they would still harp on about his foreign roots because they believe non-European heritage =suspicious and Anti-American even though they don't want to admit it.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/17/2013|
Says the rump ranger @ R29
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/17/2013|
They use "Hussein" because they can't get away with using "Nigger."
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/17/2013|
They can't stand the man because he has African heritage and a Muslim name. It's insane how far this country has come. I would have laughed uncontrollably in someone's face a decade ago if someone told me a biracial man with the middle name Hussein would be President Bush's successor.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/17/2013|
OP, I'm so glad you posted this. I actually had an event when I was sitting in my dentist's chair and he had this conversation with me, and he was getting upset: Why NOT call him Hussein? Why NOT? That's his NAME isn't it??
You can imagine how fucking scared I was hearing all that while he was holding a drill in his hands. I just agreed with him and never went back.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/17/2013|
R22, mixed metaphor. You have detention for 3 days.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/17/2013|
Because they all think they are being clever and original, they repeat this tired "joke." Of course it's racist. That's what make republicunts come alive: racism.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/17/2013|
You should have given us a HELL YES option, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/17/2013|
I think people who do this, at least in the context you are describing, OP, are appealing to racist and Islamophobic sensibilities by emphasizing the president's middle name.
This is not to imply that everyone who states the president's entire name in every single context is doing so with a racist intent.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/17/2013|
This is a 2008 question. We've been over this already. Stop feeding the trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/17/2013|
Actually, I always called W. "Chimp" or "Fuckface."
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/17/2013|