As someone who is moving to NYC, I'm curious as to the difference (mating habits, dress, you know the anthropological stuff) between the Chelsea Gay & the Hells Kitchen Gay... Educate me
NYC Gays: Chelsea Gays vs Hells Kitchen Gays
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/16/2013|
As I understand it the Hell's Kitchen gays are professional or private whores. The Chelsea gays are plastic bitches if they're not drug addicts.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/13/2013|
Hell's Kitchen gays will cut you for comparing them to Chelsea gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/13/2013|
Chelsea is older because it's more expensive. . HK Is younger as the newer gay hood.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/13/2013|
Gays, gays, you're both uninteresting.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/13/2013|
How can people even afford to live in NY and yet accept those horrid conditions of roommates, bedbugs, big-ass roaches/bugs, or rats?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/13/2013|
AIDS or meningitis? Take your pick.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/13/2013|
Gays are over.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/13/2013|
I'm assuming you're planning to become one or the other, OP. If so, how depressing for the city (we don't need any more of either).
If not, why not consider becoming Ramble riff-raff? or a bathroom perv? or an older, straight-acting, DL gym sauna slut? All are more appealing.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/14/2013|
OP, forget about those two ghettos and move to West Harlem. The rents are more affordable and the population more diverse.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/14/2013|
Chelsea is tired and Hell's Kitchen is full of whores.
Move to Houston.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/14/2013|
50 and up = Chelsea
30 - 49 = HK
18 - 29 = Brooklyn
Rich gays = Meat Packing.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/14/2013|
The kind of guys who can be referred to as "gays" or who call other dudes things like "Chelsea Gays" are over, tired. The whole "the gays" thing is so uncool and dated. It's all about brosexuals, dudes, and homothugs now. Masculinity rules.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/14/2013|
Interestingly, there are actually more gays in Murray Hill then in Hells Kitchen. Just more low key so you don't notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/14/2013|
Bwahahahah! In New York City?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/14/2013|
In real estate ads West Harlem is called Hamilton Heights.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/14/2013|
What about the Fuckberry Farms neighborhood? Or at least that's what they're calling it.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/14/2013|
Hamilton Heights is 90% black. Hardly "diverse".
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/14/2013|
Morningside Heights has become pretty trendy. There are still some shady streets, but overall it's a safe area to live. It's technically Harlem, but rental agents classify it as the upper fringe of the Upper West Side.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/14/2013|
I always trust people in real estate to give me the straight goods.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/14/2013|
r18, Morningside Heights is NOT part of Harlem. Here are the boundaries - East: Morningside Drive. West: Riverside Park. North: 125th Street. South: 110th Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/15/2013|
Morningside used to seem like suburbia....now it's part of the ues!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/15/2013|
[quote]"Masculinity rules." Bwahahahah! In New York City?
I couldn't agree more, NY is for nancies
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/15/2013|
More pumped gym queens in HK than Chelsea now. The steroided look is so 80's, though some do appear from time to time and look so ridiculous and out of place.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/15/2013|
r22, this is plenty of dude4dude masculinity in NYC. I know lots of it exists in Washington Heights, Harlem, the Bronx, Brooklyn, and Spanish Harlem. A LOT of it, probably numerically more than the stereotypical types in Chelsea or lower Manhattan, but the kind of NYC gays on DL probably don't see or experience much beyond their tiny, insular ghetto.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/15/2013|
Hell's Kitchen resident here and really you couldn't find a greater place to live than in the 10 blocks on 9th between 42-52nd.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/15/2013|
I'm curious R25. How so?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/15/2013|
Everything you need is here, R26!
Plenty of great bars and restaurants, the theater district is an avenue over, you're close to all subway lines and there are enough guys to sleep with that you could have a couple a week and not get bored.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/15/2013|
What about Greenwich Village?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/15/2013|
The Village is much too expensive for most people under 40 to afford. That's another thing that's so great about Hell's Kitchen. It's still very affordable to live there and still be in the middle of everything.
You can get away with only having one roommate and paying 1050-1100 a month (each). With prices so dirt cheap I don't know how people complain about living in New York.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/15/2013|
I am 37, live in west chelsea with my partner and we aren't rich. Rent is $2300 a month for a real one bedroom on the top floor of a pre-war building. I have a job making around 70K, he makes about 30K, we make it work. Very low key. I love walking 10th avenue from 23rd down to Chelsea Market. Walking the Highline. Beautiful blocks. THere are enough whores in London Terrace to keep you busy if that's your thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/15/2013|
R30, we're neighbors!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/15/2013|
If I lived in NYC, I would definitely fit in better in the Bronx and Washington Heights, which sound much more grounded and mainstream than Chelsea.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/15/2013|
r30, I must ask, what do you do that earns you only 70K? I'm almost afraid to ask what your bf does for his pittance. And how do you survive on only a combined 100K? I make three times that amount and have trouble making ends meet.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/15/2013|
I make about 70K too, working in publishing.
I think rent over 2K/month is hardly "dirt cheap," though. Particularly to be in a neighborhood like HK, which really is the worst of modern NYC: restaurants that aren't as good as they should be, a major hellacious tourist area right on the doorstep (Broadway--which hasn't been more than a horrible pseudo-theatrical corporate whorehouse for ages now), and some of the ugliest architecture on the island.
That people "love" it tells you more about their need to justify to themselves the ridiculous rents they pay than it does the actual neighborhood.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/15/2013|
Anyone on Roosevelt Island?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/15/2013|
Harlem is where it's at now.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/15/2013|
How wonderful to have rats the size of small poodles scurry past your feet and then climb five flights home to your tiny roach-flat, all for the mere pittance of four grand a month.
I tells ya, there's nothing like the New Yawk lifestyle!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/15/2013|
West Chelsea is west of Tenth Avenue.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/15/2013|
What Murray Hill is to generic b-tier bros who share apartments while working their entry level corporate or finance jobs and sleeping with generic PR girls they pick up at horrible post-frat bars on Third Avenue, Hell's Kitchen is to generic b-tier gays who share apartments while working their entry level jobs in PR, "brand management" or in the chorus of Broadway shows (when they're out of work it's back to Astoria or Washington Heights) and sleeping with other generic boys they pick up on grindr or at the horrible gay bars off of 8th and 9th Avenue.
Hell's Kitchen exists as it does now because Chelsea got too expensive. It's now full of older more established gays and straight couples with kids who don't want to live on the Upper West Side (which is now basically Scarsdale with subway access), but who can't quite afford Tribeca.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/15/2013|
Seeing more gays every passing month in the Yorkville area of the UES. Cheap rents if you can handle the far walk to the subway.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/15/2013|
I've lived in NYC (Manhattan) pretty much all my life. I have never heard anyone in the city refer to Chelsea Gays or Hells Kitchen's Gays etc. I've also not noticed trends amoung friends living in different neighborhoods other than it is unlikely for a rich friend to live in Washington Heights or a young relatively poor friend on Central Park West.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/15/2013|
You queens who get your kicks, and make you feel better about your dreary lives, by carrying on about the supposed deficiencies of a great city that you don't know much about: why don't you get back over to those McDonald's, KFC, and potato chip threads that you keep starting?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/15/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/15/2013|
[quote] carrying on about the supposed deficiencies of a great city that you don't know much about
They don't even mention Shake Shack! OMGs!!! That's so the best place! It's so New York! It's so cool!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/15/2013|
I've always wanted to go to chelsea NYC. Just because the history of it and i've heard the guys are hot in that area, fit etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||04/15/2013|
West Village guy here, finding it easier to walk up to Chelsea than on up toward midtown. A hot guy's hot, no matter where his roof.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/15/2013|
Most of the gay left in Chelsea are Sam Champion-ish. Ya know, 50 and self-fabulous. If that's your type, by all means.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/15/2013|
I especially love it when in the middle of the night I hear crashing in my Chelsea kitchen and I get up and see that it's a giant rat knocking my dishes down.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/15/2013|
[quote] I make three times that amount and have trouble making ends meet.
If you make $300k a year and have trouble making ends meet, you must have a hardcore drug addiction. Because anyone with any common sense and self control could easily live off of $300k. After taxes, that's like $15,000 a month. Even if your rent was 5K a month, you can't make ends meet on a clear 10K a month? You are really fucked.
[quote]West Chelsea is west of Tenth Avenue.
Wrong. West Chelsea is anything west of 8th ave between 14th and 34th Sts. You only have a handful of residences west of 10th and the rest are galleries and commercial businesses.
Chelsea is much straighter now that it has been completely gentrified for over a decade. Hell's Kitchen looks more like what Chelsea was ten years ago although with 10X the number of shitty Thai restaurants.
If I was young and gay and wanted to go out all the time, I would definitely be in Hells Kitchen now. Since I did that in the early aughts I have no desire to now.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/16/2013|
where do masculine White bi and gay dudes live in NYC?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/16/2013|
Brooklyn is the new Manhattan. Williamsburg, Greenpoint and Bushwick are teeming with young, hot masculine gay dudes with beards, tattoos and non-attitudes.
Leave the chic-let teeth, perma-tans and steroid cycles to the Westside queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/16/2013|
r49 also thinks the West Village begins at Fifth Avenue since it's the dividing line between East and West numbered streets.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/16/2013|
r49, the NYC Planning Department says West Chelsea is 16th-30th, west of Tenth Avenue. Landmark Preservation Commission shows West Chelsea Historic District as 25th-28th, west of Tenth Avenue.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/16/2013|
[quote]If I lived in NYC, I would definitely fit in better in the Bronx and Washington Heights, which sound much more grounded and mainstream than Chelsea.
I guess nobody told you about the filthy, loud, drug-dealing Dominicans, or whoever else is peeing in the elevator EVERY day! Still, real estate agents will welcome your dough!
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/16/2013|
R51 is right. There are plenty of down-to-earth gays in Brooklyn who are fully integrated into the community without sacrificing their homosexuality. The gays in Chelsea and Hell's Kitchen are too isolated for my taste.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/16/2013|
I'll buy a cookie from Schmakery's and my fruit and veggies from the stand on 9th between 42-43. How much more integrated into the community do you want R55?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/16/2013|
I'd rather be gay-adjacent.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/16/2013|