Airline to charge passengers according to their weight.
A Pacific airline has scrapped its traditional fares for a pay-what-you-weigh system.
Under the new rules, passengers must give their weight along with the weight of their baggage, when booking flights with Samoa Air.
And lying won't work. The airline plans to weigh passengers at the airport before they board their flight, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.
The airline then uses the combined weight to calculate the fare. The longer the flight, the more per kilogram the ticket costs.
"This is the fairest way of travelling," Samoa Air CEO Chris Langton told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. "There are no extra fees in terms of excess baggage or anything — it is just a kilo is a kilo is a kilo."
While some American airlines charge the price of two seats for obese passengers who can't fit into one, this is the first time an airline has charged by the kilogram.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/03/2013|
I think the seat thing is more fair. The airline has a set number of seats. If you are obese so you can't be accommodated by one normal seat then it is completely fair that you pay for the extra one as you are also occupying it so that is a seat the airline can't book.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/02/2013|
They should make a killing. There is no such thing as 99lb Samoan.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/02/2013|
Brilliant, it's the best way to deal with air passenger travel. I'm surprised it hasn't been talked about before now. Cargo is based on weight, so should passengers.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/02/2013|
This is a very DL-friendly policy.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/02/2013|
Are they going to put everyone on a scale? 'Cause if not, everyone will just lie. I know I would.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/02/2013|
This will never happen because men will claim it's discriminatory. Men weigh more on the whole than women do.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/02/2013|
R5 The airline plans to weigh passengers at the airport before they board their flight
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/02/2013|
The SAMOANS of all people came up with this?
They're some of the biggest people on Earth!
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/02/2013|
[quote] Men weigh more on the whole than women do.
Not where I live.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/02/2013|
It's actually quite the opposite of discriminatory, it's equitable.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/02/2013|
Not equitable in the slightest. Intrusive and annoying.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/02/2013|
A fully loaded 767 weighs 395,000 pounds. Whether you weigh 150 or 350 pounds has a negligible effect on fuel costs. Stop being a fool for corporate divide and inflate prices schemes.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/02/2013|
Yes, R14, but fill that plane with 150 Americans (or Samoans) at 225 lbs average and the combined weight is 33,750 lbs. Fill it with 150 Europeans (not the Brits) at about 175 lbs and the combined weight is 26,250 lbs. Given you can get charged $50 for going 5 lbs over on baggage, what's the overage charge for 7,500 lbs?
I so want this to stick, and I'm at little overweight at 180 lbs.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/02/2013|
You have to take of your belt and shoes. The x-ray sees you naked. Who would be shocked about going on a scale?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/02/2013|
But the 5' fatty who weighs 220 lbs is more likely to have her flab hang over into my seat than the 6'2" average build 220 lb guy is. They need to adjust it for height because the short have an advantage and their flab can still intrude into my space.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/02/2013|
R14 is the corporate tool.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/02/2013|
Samoa, where America's obesity begins
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/02/2013|
No R18 and R15, you are the corporate tools. This is plain and simple an attempt to turn passengers against each other so they won't mind paying more for a flight.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/02/2013|
In your hypothetical case (and frankly, all the planes going to Samoa are likely to have Samoans in them and therefore your case is an extreme), that's a difference of just 6,000 pounds. 3 tons out of 196 tons. Hardly worthy of a serious surcharge.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/02/2013|
We are all corporate tools unless we rise up an overthrow this rotten system!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/02/2013|
I'm 5'7" and weigh 145lbs - on the smaller side of average for a male. I feel cramped in an airline seat even without an overweight person seated next to me. How about for starters, the airlines are required to have seats that a normal sized person can sit in?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/02/2013|
R15, excellent points and great comeback.
(And I mean a real great comeback. Not a 'great comeback, Potsie!')
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/02/2013|
Are we sure this isn't an April Fool's joke? Samoan Airlines? Really?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/02/2013|
R25 may be right. A Wikipedia search shows that Samoa Air went out of business in 2003.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/02/2013|
Helicopter tours typically do weigh ins.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/02/2013|
Price should/will be Passenger weight + weight of all baggage.
You can just imagine the purging that will go on in airline restrooms near the ticket counters.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/02/2013|
[quote]Men weigh more on the whole than women do.
You mustn't be from the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/02/2013|
People who are taller are going to way more, even if they aren't overweight. It's not egalitarian because you don't have control over your height.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/02/2013|
Statistically, there are more overweight men than women. This is true around the globe.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/02/2013|
[quote]...you don't have control over your height
So starve yourself to Manute Bol levels, stretch. Or pay up.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/02/2013|
I can see it already - flightfuls of short women with halter tops, short shorts, sandals and backpacks.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/02/2013|
It's not about being able to "control" your weight or height. It's about costs to the airlines. If you weigh more, you cost more. This is completely fair.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/02/2013|
It is fucking Samoan Air. Their planes probably aren't safe in the first place. I would never flyon a plane that had to confirm their weight limit.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/02/2013|
Airplanes should have steerage. Out of sight, out of mind.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/02/2013|
Hopefully this is a first step for the whole industry. Luckily i don't often fly cattle class, but when I do I am always sit beside some morbidly obese fat ass that crowds over into my space. I am not a small person - but if I can maintain 6'2" and 180lbs then I shouldn't have to suffer through having the fat rolls of a 5'10" 400lb person crawling into my space.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/02/2013|
I believe Cape Air (Boston - Provincetown, among other routes) asks for "an estimate" of one's weight at check in.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/02/2013|
In the 1940s when Puerto Ricans began moving to New York the planes were filled by weight not number of passengers.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/02/2013|
In 2011 a woman asked a copter pilot to give three friends from oversears a tour of Manhattan. Soon after they left 34th Street heliport the plane crashed into the East River. Mother, father, and daughter died. Photos showed they were all overweight. Pilot charged with overloading. No good deed goes unpunished.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/03/2013|
I don't really understand the point of this - just to deter fat people from flying? It's not going to change the fact that Fatty McFatterson is spilling over into your seat. All it's going to do is, maybe, make you pay a few dollars less. Is that supposed to be compensation?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/03/2013|
And I'd rather sit next to some Fatty McFatterson than some parent with a screaming kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/03/2013|
r42, if they charge by IQ points, you'll get a bargain.
It's not about deterring "fat" people from flying. It's about charging for costs to the airlines related to weight. Now, if airlines add a volume surcharge, maybe the spillover effect will be curtailed.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/03/2013|
I don't get it. You will still be sitting next to the fat person. The airlines are the only ones who win. The skinny person will still be charged the same amount that they are being charged now.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/03/2013|
[quote] You will still be sitting next to the fat person. The airlines are the only ones who win. The skinny person will still be charged the same amount that they are being charged now.
The skinny person pays less than the fat person, if the cost of the ticket is by weight.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/03/2013|
Sure thing - I weigh 140 pounds.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/03/2013|
R47, maybe I didn't phrase that correctly. Is the airline going to lower the ticket prices beyond what they are now for a slimmer person? or is the airline simply going to charge the overweight person more?
If there is only an increase in the ticket price for the overweight person then this rule does absolutely nothing for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/03/2013|
Can I take helium balloons as my carry on?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/03/2013|
I don't think this has anything to do with corporate anything. Samoan airlines appears to be comprised of a bunch of dinky turbo-prop puddle jumpers, and I definitely think weight impacts the safety of those little planes.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/03/2013|
I'll assume from the posts that none of you actually own a plane. Weight makes a MASSIVE difference in the amount of fuel required to take-off and get to cruising altitude. Once at cruising the weight doesn't have quite as much impact. Descending, landing, braking - also consume based on weight.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/03/2013|