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Airline to charge passengers according to their weight.

A Pacific airline has scrapped its traditional fares for a pay-what-you-weigh system.

Under the new rules, passengers must give their weight along with the weight of their baggage, when booking flights with Samoa Air.

And lying won't work. The airline plans to weigh passengers at the airport before they board their flight, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.

The airline then uses the combined weight to calculate the fare. The longer the flight, the more per kilogram the ticket costs.

"This is the fairest way of travelling," Samoa Air CEO Chris Langton told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. "There are no extra fees in terms of excess baggage or anything — it is just a kilo is a kilo is a kilo."

While some American airlines charge the price of two seats for obese passengers who can't fit into one, this is the first time an airline has charged by the kilogram.

by Anonymousreply 5304/03/2013

I think the seat thing is more fair. The airline has a set number of seats. If you are obese so you can't be accommodated by one normal seat then it is completely fair that you pay for the extra one as you are also occupying it so that is a seat the airline can't book.

by Anonymousreply 104/02/2013

They should make a killing. There is no such thing as 99lb Samoan.

by Anonymousreply 204/02/2013

Brilliant, it's the best way to deal with air passenger travel. I'm surprised it hasn't been talked about before now. Cargo is based on weight, so should passengers.

by Anonymousreply 304/02/2013

This is a very DL-friendly policy.

by Anonymousreply 404/02/2013

Are they going to put everyone on a scale? 'Cause if not, everyone will just lie. I know I would.

by Anonymousreply 504/02/2013

This will never happen because men will claim it's discriminatory. Men weigh more on the whole than women do.

by Anonymousreply 604/02/2013

R5 The airline plans to weigh passengers at the airport before they board their flight

by Anonymousreply 704/02/2013


Link, please?!

by Anonymousreply 804/02/2013

The SAMOANS of all people came up with this?

They're some of the biggest people on Earth!

by Anonymousreply 904/02/2013

For R8

by Anonymousreply 1004/02/2013

[quote] Men weigh more on the whole than women do.

Not where I live.

by Anonymousreply 1104/02/2013

It's actually quite the opposite of discriminatory, it's equitable.

by Anonymousreply 1204/02/2013

Not equitable in the slightest. Intrusive and annoying.

by Anonymousreply 1304/02/2013

A fully loaded 767 weighs 395,000 pounds. Whether you weigh 150 or 350 pounds has a negligible effect on fuel costs. Stop being a fool for corporate divide and inflate prices schemes.

by Anonymousreply 1404/02/2013

Yes, R14, but fill that plane with 150 Americans (or Samoans) at 225 lbs average and the combined weight is 33,750 lbs. Fill it with 150 Europeans (not the Brits) at about 175 lbs and the combined weight is 26,250 lbs. Given you can get charged $50 for going 5 lbs over on baggage, what's the overage charge for 7,500 lbs?

I so want this to stick, and I'm at little overweight at 180 lbs.

by Anonymousreply 1504/02/2013

You have to take of your belt and shoes. The x-ray sees you naked. Who would be shocked about going on a scale?

by Anonymousreply 1604/02/2013

But the 5' fatty who weighs 220 lbs is more likely to have her flab hang over into my seat than the 6'2" average build 220 lb guy is. They need to adjust it for height because the short have an advantage and their flab can still intrude into my space.

by Anonymousreply 1704/02/2013

R14 is the corporate tool.

by Anonymousreply 1804/02/2013

Samoa, where America's obesity begins

by Anonymousreply 1904/02/2013

No R18 and R15, you are the corporate tools. This is plain and simple an attempt to turn passengers against each other so they won't mind paying more for a flight.

by Anonymousreply 2004/02/2013

In your hypothetical case (and frankly, all the planes going to Samoa are likely to have Samoans in them and therefore your case is an extreme), that's a difference of just 6,000 pounds. 3 tons out of 196 tons. Hardly worthy of a serious surcharge.

by Anonymousreply 2104/02/2013

We are all corporate tools unless we rise up an overthrow this rotten system!

by Anonymousreply 2204/02/2013

I'm 5'7" and weigh 145lbs - on the smaller side of average for a male. I feel cramped in an airline seat even without an overweight person seated next to me. How about for starters, the airlines are required to have seats that a normal sized person can sit in?

by Anonymousreply 2304/02/2013

R15, excellent points and great comeback.

(And I mean a real great comeback. Not a 'great comeback, Potsie!')

by Anonymousreply 2404/02/2013

Are we sure this isn't an April Fool's joke? Samoan Airlines? Really?

by Anonymousreply 2504/02/2013

R25 may be right. A Wikipedia search shows that Samoa Air went out of business in 2003.

by Anonymousreply 2604/02/2013

It's on CNN.

by Anonymousreply 2704/02/2013

Helicopter tours typically do weigh ins.

by Anonymousreply 2804/02/2013

Price should/will be Passenger weight + weight of all baggage.

You can just imagine the purging that will go on in airline restrooms near the ticket counters.

by Anonymousreply 2904/02/2013

[quote]Men weigh more on the whole than women do.

You mustn't be from the US.

by Anonymousreply 3004/02/2013

People who are taller are going to way more, even if they aren't overweight. It's not egalitarian because you don't have control over your height.

by Anonymousreply 3104/02/2013

Statistically, there are more overweight men than women. This is true around the globe.

by Anonymousreply 3204/02/2013

[quote] don't have control over your height

So starve yourself to Manute Bol levels, stretch. Or pay up.

by Anonymousreply 3304/02/2013

I can see it already - flightfuls of short women with halter tops, short shorts, sandals and backpacks.

by Anonymousreply 3404/02/2013

It's not about being able to "control" your weight or height. It's about costs to the airlines. If you weigh more, you cost more. This is completely fair.

by Anonymousreply 3504/02/2013

It is fucking Samoan Air. Their planes probably aren't safe in the first place. I would never flyon a plane that had to confirm their weight limit.

by Anonymousreply 3604/02/2013

Airplanes should have steerage. Out of sight, out of mind.

by Anonymousreply 3704/02/2013

Hopefully this is a first step for the whole industry. Luckily i don't often fly cattle class, but when I do I am always sit beside some morbidly obese fat ass that crowds over into my space. I am not a small person - but if I can maintain 6'2" and 180lbs then I shouldn't have to suffer through having the fat rolls of a 5'10" 400lb person crawling into my space.

by Anonymousreply 3804/02/2013

I believe Cape Air (Boston - Provincetown, among other routes) asks for "an estimate" of one's weight at check in.

by Anonymousreply 3904/02/2013

In the 1940s when Puerto Ricans began moving to New York the planes were filled by weight not number of passengers.

by Anonymousreply 4004/02/2013

In 2011 a woman asked a copter pilot to give three friends from oversears a tour of Manhattan. Soon after they left 34th Street heliport the plane crashed into the East River. Mother, father, and daughter died. Photos showed they were all overweight. Pilot charged with overloading. No good deed goes unpunished.

by Anonymousreply 4104/03/2013

I don't really understand the point of this - just to deter fat people from flying? It's not going to change the fact that Fatty McFatterson is spilling over into your seat. All it's going to do is, maybe, make you pay a few dollars less. Is that supposed to be compensation?

by Anonymousreply 4204/03/2013

And I'd rather sit next to some Fatty McFatterson than some parent with a screaming kid.

by Anonymousreply 4304/03/2013

r42, if they charge by IQ points, you'll get a bargain.

It's not about deterring "fat" people from flying. It's about charging for costs to the airlines related to weight. Now, if airlines add a volume surcharge, maybe the spillover effect will be curtailed.

by Anonymousreply 4404/03/2013

I don't get it. You will still be sitting next to the fat person. The airlines are the only ones who win. The skinny person will still be charged the same amount that they are being charged now.

by Anonymousreply 4604/03/2013

[quote] You will still be sitting next to the fat person. The airlines are the only ones who win. The skinny person will still be charged the same amount that they are being charged now.

The skinny person pays less than the fat person, if the cost of the ticket is by weight.

by Anonymousreply 4704/03/2013

Sure thing - I weigh 140 pounds.

by Anonymousreply 4804/03/2013

R47, maybe I didn't phrase that correctly. Is the airline going to lower the ticket prices beyond what they are now for a slimmer person? or is the airline simply going to charge the overweight person more?

If there is only an increase in the ticket price for the overweight person then this rule does absolutely nothing for me.

by Anonymousreply 4904/03/2013

Can I take helium balloons as my carry on?

by Anonymousreply 5004/03/2013

I don't think this has anything to do with corporate anything. Samoan airlines appears to be comprised of a bunch of dinky turbo-prop puddle jumpers, and I definitely think weight impacts the safety of those little planes.

by Anonymousreply 5104/03/2013

I'll assume from the posts that none of you actually own a plane. Weight makes a MASSIVE difference in the amount of fuel required to take-off and get to cruising altitude. Once at cruising the weight doesn't have quite as much impact. Descending, landing, braking - also consume based on weight.

by Anonymousreply 5204/03/2013

Thanks, r52.

by Anonymousreply 5304/03/2013
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