R50, that is such sophistry. Laughable.
Lenin's Russia was all about atheism, hence why they expected worship of the state: atheism makes man into god as a baseline argument, and thus invites tyrants to enforce their worldviews on other, "weaker" men.
And as trotsky, Lenin and Stalin showed us, they will be quite ruthless in doing it. And why not? There is no greater power to answer to, and no morality beyond whim.
The difference between atheism and other religions is minimal as far as ugly result, but quite large as far as any meaning or ability to judge the factors that go into it; in other words, if one accepts atheism, then any and all acts are equally meaningless and absurd. The only thing that matters, truly, is power. Morality is for a creature with a soul, not just another creature fighting for primacy in the jungle.
For how can morality exist universally if the only standard is man himself?
Logically, what we're left with are people worshiping states. And other men.
And we can also see that an atheist, such as yourself, doesn't have either the character or intellect to own or understand these facts and factors.
When a militant atheist, such as Trotsky, butchers millions of Christians? Well, that has nothing to do with atheism. By that standard, no belief system in history could or can be responsible for man's violence -- yet atheists argue just the opposite when they are on the attack against Christianity and the like.
Quite obtuse if not inane. Great work.
R51, you have little reasoning ability or understanding of language.
Maybe you should look up the word 'faith'.
Here, I'll help:
faith (fth) n. 1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing. 2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief, trust. 3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters. 4. often Faith Christianity The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will. 5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith. 6. A set of principles or beliefs.
You've deluded yourself into believing that atheism is itself a fact, rather than a belief. You don't actually know what the nature of the universe is, but somehow you've conflated your faith in a lack of higher power with fact. Such arrogance and megalomania is part and parcel of the true-believing atheist.
Always living down to the cliche of never even understanding your own ethos/religion.
of course, all atheists have in the playbook is to attempt ad hominems when baseline reality and logic are pointed out about their belief system. I'll leave you to it. No doubt there will be more false fronts about how atheism "is the opposite of faith" and an attempt to act like moral arbiters through a system that undoes the very meaning or existence of the word 'morality'.
Great stuff. Though a little tautological in its recursion. Like watching a toilet flush is to listen to an atheist extol the virtues of atheism as both fact and moral hierarchy.