R22: Every other country with a highly developed economy, and many without, regard universal health care as a public obligation to the individual.
Guess what the get for their tax dollars. They get better medical care, and if you don't believe me, the statistics are at link. These figures are from "Lancet," the British equivalent of "The New England Journal of Medicine." In other words, from an impeccable source, and peer reviewed.
Maternal mortality is the gold standard statistic for health care. The United States comes in 39th, behind such countries as Slovakia and Albania. I invite you to find three countries above the United States that do not have universal, one payer, socialized medicine.
So it is not free? No, but it saves a hell of a lot of money that comes from the tax-payers. Who do you think picks up the health care bill for people without insurance, assuming they can get any at all, the medical-care fairy? We do through our tax dollars.
But wait, we are the tax payers. If you pay taxes at all, I bet you pay a lot smaller percentage of your wealth for the public good than the rest of us do. What gives your class the right to dictate to the ones who pay the tax bills, the right to tell us what benefits we should get.
What if you do pay taxes? That's even worse, because then you are a Quisling to your fellow workers -- pushing for better treatment for the rich while pushing people just like you out of the lifeboat so you can get more legroom.
If we had socialized medicine we would fewer lost days at work and a healthier workforce to make corporations more money with less sick pay, for corporations that have sick pay. I bet you think corporations shouldn't have to pay for health insurance.
Where the f... are we supposed to get insurance then? Bandage each other? Set each others broken bones? Watch each other die because you want another BMW?
Who pays the most for health care in the world? We do. How would you like it if the corporation you work for or own stock in had the highest operating expense in its industry and came in 39th in profits?
Why does the expense bother you? It would make the economy improve. What it does to you is frighten you about higher taxes, except I bet you know everyway possible to avoid taxes. Already paying less than your fair share, you just want to pay less, scumbag.