The worst city in the world
Toronto has to be the worst city in the world. It is dirty, ugly, and looks like it's falling apart. I have to travel to work riding its rust bucket TTC. Man, going around the city really makes you feel so depressed.
This is why I especially like Kelly Clarkson's "Break Away". If only one day, I could break away from this shithole.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/11/2013|
Yes, OP, it compares terribly to Lagos.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/28/2013|
How long until the mandatory Houston cheap shot?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/28/2013|
You need to head over to LCBO and get a bottle of Ontario Whine, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/28/2013|
OP clearly has some weird disdain for the city. Couldn't afford the rent or something?
Toronto is definitely ugly. But it's suuuuper eclectic and gay-friendly. Most guys downtown are gay.
OP should take a trip to Dhaka, Bangladesh.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/28/2013|
[quote]I have to travel to work riding its rust bucket TTC.
Me too. Haven't you been on any of the new subway trains? And the new streetcars are being rolled out next year.
Go vist Cleveland and get back to us.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/28/2013|
They campaigned to get foreigners to move there a couple decades ago, and now I'm sure they regret it. I imagine it will be renamed West Kabul someday.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/28/2013|
Wow, is Toronto really that big of a shithole? I've never been there, but if it's that bad, I won't bother going.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/28/2013|
I'm sure they don't regret it, especially as that welcome did not extend to Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||03/28/2013|
Toronto is wonderful, not a shithole.
That said if you want to leave it and marry an American...
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/28/2013|
As someone who's lived in Toronto for 12 years, I can understand the sentiment expressed by OP but he's being a bit of a drama queen. It's nondescript and bland rather than ugly, without amazing culture or architecture, the TTC is indeed complete crap, but there are far worse places to live. It is horribly overpriced, even in comparison to, say, NYC. If you have a cushy job and make a lot of money, it is comfortable and convenient.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/28/2013|
I am so surprised to hear this. I thought it was friendly, clean, the buildings had personality.
Maybe one visit does not tell the whole tale but I found it quite nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||03/28/2013|
Toronto is a nice city, very clean and safe, plenty of shopping, nice restaurants, and there is somewhat of an art and theatre scene.
But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism. You get a bit of Italy here, a little India there and a whole lot of China over there, but you're left wondering, what exactly is Toronto? Vancouver has the gorgeous scenery and Montreal has the French thing, Toronto is just...there.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||03/28/2013|
The Canadians I know intensely dislike Toronto as being full of ... for lack of a better term, snotty yuppies. I've always found the train stations themselves incredibly depressing places, miserable colour scheme, while being sterile at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/28/2013|
[quote]It's nondescript and bland rather than ugly, without amazing culture or architecture,
This is exactly how I've always imagined it.
Goes to show...you don't need to go to Toronto, to know what Toronto's like.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||03/28/2013|
Why does everything in Canada seem like 10 years behind the times? The fashion and decor seems so dated.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/28/2013|
Toronto is wonderful. Architecturally mongrelized, yes, but incredibly heterogeneous, fantastic transit...and the islands!
Too bad it's north of here.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||03/28/2013|
Horrible transit if you have to live here.
Otherwise, what R10 said.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||03/28/2013|
You guys need to take the NYC subway! TTC crap? Bliss!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||03/28/2013|
Toronto and its people are cold. And flat, like its environs.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||03/28/2013|
[quote]But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism.
It tries to be all things to all peoples and ends up being not quite anything to anyone, which is both its beauty and its failing.
Personally, I'm sick to death of the diversity mania. I don't give a fuck how you did things in whatever land of eternal fuckery you fled. You're in Canada now, bitches - learn to drive properly, don't cut in lines and say please and thank-you.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||03/28/2013|
I'm from New Orleans. Come on down, sweetie. (you might want to bring your bullet proof vest)
|by Anonymous||reply 23||03/28/2013|
"Worst city in the world"
Hey op, fuck you, it's not my fault you live/work in a shitty part of town
|by Anonymous||reply 25||03/28/2013|
Is Toronto replacing Chicago as the new DL urban punching bag fav?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||03/28/2013|
Yes OP, it's a shithole. Amazing that The Economist has consistently ranked it among the 5 most livable cities on Earth. Or that its population continues to grow by tens of thousands every year to the point where it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||03/28/2013|
[quote]Brussels is the worst place on the planet.
I have a friend who visited there and said that it was nothing like she thought it would be - that there were tons of Muslims in hijabs and lots of buildings were just falling apart.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||03/28/2013|
I think I'd choose Toronto over any city in India. Once they're done raping women, they'll move on to men.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||03/28/2013|
Toronto is a shithole. Ugly, charmless, and such a whining grotesque wannabe, forever proclaiming it is a "world-class city." Ha. With that pig for a mayor, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||03/28/2013|
R27 has an L-shaped couch and a b&w oversized print of the NY skyline.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||03/28/2013|
"it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city"
I don't understand this. How? Mexico City is in North America. Metropolitan area: 21 million people.
And then there's New York City and Los Angeles.
I really don't think Toronto is North America's largest city, nor that Chicago is in 2nd place. Unless you're talking square miles or something, and I thought L.A. was pretty sprawling.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||03/28/2013|
"But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism."
This is so true. At first they had boring provincial WASPS, and then they added multicultural overdose. They went from boring...to boring, in another form. But they tell themselves they are exciting now, because the real estate prices went up.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||03/28/2013|
Out of the cities I've actually been to, I'd have to say Moscow. Expensive, ugly and violent.
I also found Milan very disappointing compared to what I was expecting. Long way from a shithole though.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||03/28/2013|
[quote]Mexico City is in North America
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/28/2013|
[quote]I also found Milan very disappointing compared to what I was expecting.
Why, what were you expecting? Maybe you were affected by all the 'fashion' talk. Not a good idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/28/2013|
R27 might be Glen Murray.
[quote] "But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism."
I also agree with this. One would think that it would result in something interesting culturally and otherwise. Instead, it very much feels like different ethnic communities living side by side, remaining insular, instead of coming together and enriching each other's experiences.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||03/28/2013|
I have been to New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sao paolo, Mexico City, Paris, London, Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Cairo, tel aviv, Jerusalem, Beijing, Hong Kong. Shanghai, Jakarta, Myanmar, Bangkok, all of Vietnam, and countless other cities...Brussels is the worst.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||03/28/2013|
r35 doesn't know that Mexico City is located in North America? The 'Oh, Dear' troll has just earned herself an 'Oh Dear!'
|by Anonymous||reply 40||03/28/2013|
R39 Tell us about more about Brussels
|by Anonymous||reply 41||03/28/2013|
[quote] I have been to New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sao paolo, Mexico City, Paris, London, Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Cairo, tel aviv, Jerusalem, Beijing, Hong Kong. Shanghai, Jakarta, Myanmar, Bangkok, all of Vietnam, and countless other cities...Brussels is the worst.
Try Auckland. An abomination in one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||03/28/2013|
I meant 4th largest city, oops.
And R31 lives in a dumpster.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||03/28/2013|
R42 What's wrong with Aucklund? It may be boring, but is it really the "worst"?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||03/28/2013|
R36 Yes, I suppose I was affected by all the fashion talk - I expected to be like Paris. Instead I found a charmless city of post-industrial brutalism. Not horrible by any means but just totally at odds with what I was expecting.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||03/28/2013|
R27 is like these idiots in Vancouver, who are ALWAYS pointing to some useless ranking that puts Toronto or Vancouver on some top ten list that includes other amazing cities...like...Melbourne and Perth...
Yeah, forget about NY and London and Paris...it's all about Calgary and Perth!
The only interesting city, real city, in Canada - Montreal isn't even on these stupid lists (and neither is NY, London, Paris), but... Calgary is. Calgary actually might be uglier than Toronto and more brainless than Vancouver. Shove these useless rankings up your ass - they are for businessmen that want parking spaces, and they have nothing to do with what is a great city.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||03/28/2013|
R47 = Montrealer, ranked #16
|by Anonymous||reply 48||03/28/2013|
NYC is the worst. It is the bane of my existence.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||03/28/2013|
Geez...I guess I will never leave New York.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||03/28/2013|
The Mayor of Toronto hates his life so much that he's become a raging alcoholic!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||03/28/2013|
The mayor of Toronto hates Toronto so much he has become an alcoholic. The people who voted for him hate themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||03/28/2013|
R2, I think you did the job yourself.
I've been to every major and most minor cities in the USA and Canada. Toronto is just bland and as others have said, lacking identity. For truly horrible, the Midwest Rust Belt and Cancer Coast of Texas-Louisiana-Mississippi-Alabama can't be beat.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||03/28/2013|
Funny...I love Toronto. To each his own.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||03/28/2013|
In Datalounge every city in the world, including Paris, London and Toronto, is a shithole compared to New York! There. Now can we never have another "let's shit on (fill in the blank)" thread again?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||03/29/2013|
I can only speak to the places I've visited so I'd have to say London is the worst. Horrifically expensive, no one speaks English, terrible overcrowding, sewer odors and rude/arrogant locals. Oh, and the food really does still suck. Another decade or so you won't be able to tell it apart from Lagos.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||03/29/2013|
Toronto? The worst city in the world?
You overprivileged piece of shit!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||03/29/2013|
Have you been to Caracas or San Pedro Sula lately? To Mogadishu or Karachi?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||03/29/2013|
R54 is right. New York City is truly vile.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||03/29/2013|
are you sure that wasn't Toronto, R58?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||03/29/2013|
I still plan to spend a couple weeks there in September.
I've always wanted to go to Canada - hell, to LIVE in Canada - since I was 12 (and I am OLD now).
I'll have a wonderful time, I'm sure - as long as I don't run into the miserable OP. (sorry, hon)
|by Anonymous||reply 63||03/29/2013|
R41 - There is one TINY part of the city that is quaint/older looking with nice stores, restaurants, etc. The rest of it is a burned out dirty shit hole that looks like it had no renovations after the air raids of WWII. The first time I went there I had to take the train from Amsterdam. When we got to the station in London I honestly thought I had taken a train back in time to a Berlin station in 1946. Completely filthy, graffiti and trash every where. Insult to injury, the "taxi" we had to take to the hotel looked, and smelled, like a Soviet era Trabant. The people there are classless cretins, but because a lot of them speak French they tend to look down their horribly disfigured noses at anyone. Brussels is truly the only place I have ever been in the world where I couldn't find one redeeming quality.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||03/29/2013|
Oops, Brussels not London.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||03/29/2013|
It's true about Bruxelles! Levis HQ is in Brussels and I worked there for a year before moving to Paris. The people for some reason are hideously ugly and backwards. The Grand Place in the center is rather pretty and there is the best chocolate I've ever had at Pierre Marcolini. But nothing else to recommend it.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||03/29/2013|
Brussels was the best of all the cities you went to. The problem was with you, not with Brussels. Obvious rethug politicunt posting there.
Toronto is beautiful and full of strapping hunks who love recreational sex with foreigners.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||03/29/2013|
This is the most famous landmark in Brussels/Bruxelles...
|by Anonymous||reply 68||03/29/2013|
What makes Toronto so bad is its refusal to accept it is nothing more than land for foreign owned condos and American franchises.
In the 1980s, Toronto used to actually have original culture, but not today.
Few people born in Canada still live in Toronto, so it is barely Canadian anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||03/31/2013|
Toronto is a great city. Love it. A bit expensive, but way better than...
Florence Paris London Rome
and don't even get me started on Asia! Tokoyo! Man, they sure have a strange slant on things, starting with their eyes.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/01/2013|
OP has obviously not been to Dayton, OH
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/01/2013|
It is falsely assumed that so many people move to the city because they are interesting and cultural.
This is a false notion.
People move to the city because that is where the increasingly hard to find jobs are today. Unfortunately these jobs are often paying low wages and thus enters the quagmire of urban life and the emergence of 400 Sq Ft apartments.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||04/01/2013|
Uh, the worst city in the world is Port Moresby. Then maybe Ulaan Baatar. Antananaravo is 3rd Canada is a certain kind of over-taxed socialism that's not for me. There is only one major urban area in the country GTA. The whole area is sad because of all the landed immigrants who came looking for opportunity but unfortunately the economy of Can can't absorb their skills, so a lot of cab driving iranian neurosurgeons. I was married to a c--- canadian who stole all my money. Having said all that, Toronto is not a bad place. It doesn't stink of garbage and urine like NYC in July. plenty of neighborhoods to get a drink. summer is not long so they enjoy it, festivals etc
|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/01/2013|
Worst city is Washington D.C. So many assholes there! Way too many to count.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||04/01/2013|
Canada and most of our northern states...full of mosquitoes, it's hard to put up with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||04/01/2013|
Toronto is actually one of my favorite places, though it is kind of blandly modern, steel and glass towers kind of place.
Remington's and other places around that area were always loads of fun, lol.
It is definitely cold climate, though. I'd rather live there than Chicago or Boston or DC.
Guys in Toronto are hot, and it's basically a gay-friendly place.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||04/01/2013|
R46, yes I agree with you - Milan is awful - great food and fashion and architecture, which is why it's so weird that the city is so offensive on so many levels.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||04/01/2013|
[quote]"it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city"
[quote]I don't understand this. How? Mexico City is in North America. Metropolitan area: 21 million people.
I think that should have been "as North America's third-largest metro area," because it now is.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||04/01/2013|
I'm going to Milan, so what's the problem?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||04/01/2013|
No, it's 4th largest now, after Ciudad Mexico, NY and LA. And that's for the city proper, not the conurbation. Chicago is still bigger in that sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||04/01/2013|
The central part of Toronto (Downtown, Queens Park, The Annex) is beautiful but the urban/suburban sprawl surrounding it is ugly and depressing, especially in winter which is about 7 months long.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||04/10/2013|
I remember listening to Jamaican secretaries at my NYC hospital in the 1990s complaining about how their relatives in Toronto were being surrounded by immigrants from Hong Kong.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||04/10/2013|
I found Mumbai distasteful.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||04/10/2013|
[quote]I remember listening to Jamaican secretaries at my NYC hospital in the 1990s complaining about how their relatives in Toronto were being surrounded by immigrants from Hong Kong
At least THEY aren't shooting up the place.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||04/10/2013|
You won't find many people who were born in Canada, still living in Toronto today.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||04/10/2013|
R82, it's smoggy and crowded - crowded not in a picturesque, Old World way, but more in a grungy, run-down, utililtarian way. Yes, the Cathedral and La Scala are nice. The food is superb. The main train station is also interesting - the art nouveau reliefs sort of scream 1920's or 30's. But there is a lot of petty street crime and gypsies and the people who live there are very VERY gruff. It's worth ONE visit, maybe for two days. That's it.
In the 80's, I dated a hot little Alitalia FA who was based in Milan. There's a place, the Hotline Club, which is probably the Hot Text Club now, if it's even there any longer. And then there was a huge gay disco on the outskirts of the city.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/11/2013|
R86 - I agree, Mumbai and Delhi are horrible, but you sort of expect that when you go there and it isn't as much of a shock. Brussels, being in a first world country, I expected to be first world. It is a shit stain on the underwear of humanity.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||04/11/2013|
R90, but I love their sprouts.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||04/11/2013|
I agree, I guess every place does have its bright spot!
|by Anonymous||reply 92||04/11/2013|
Toronto is banality personified. It so desperately wants to be Chicago or New York but never will be; it lacks the architectural heritage, sense of identity, and homegrown culture. Like another poster alluded to, it's tries to be everything to everyone and ends up being a place of nothingness.
In terms of intersting Canadian cities, I would cite: Halifax, Montreal, Winnipeg. That's all.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||04/11/2013|
Toronto is fourth-largest ONLY if you don't take metro-area population into account, which in this day and age is retarded. Using this REALISTIC list, Toronto comes in seventh, below Chicago, Houston and DFW (and it ain't catching up with the latter two, given that Texas is one of the few places not hugely hurt by the recession).
|by Anonymous||reply 94||04/11/2013|
When you judge cities, determining whether they appeal to you, whether you would want to visit, revisit, or live there, do you actually consider the entire city? Or, do you ignore the bad or boring areas if (a) they're places you really wouldn't need to go if in the city (like many ghetto areas in big cities), and (b) there's a lot in the city that you like which offsets whatever it is you find negative?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||04/11/2013|
[quote]Have you been to Caracas or San Pedro Sula lately? To Mogadishu or Karachi?
I'm assuming OP's "worst" designation was to drive home the point how awful he thinks Toronto is, not because it's actually, objectively the worst. Sort of like saying "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse" generally just means you're really hungry, not that you could eat a whole horse.
I find Toronto "fine."
|by Anonymous||reply 96||04/11/2013|
[quote] "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"
Try the Swedish meatballs at Ikea.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/11/2013|