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The worst city in the world

Toronto has to be the worst city in the world. It is dirty, ugly, and looks like it's falling apart. I have to travel to work riding its rust bucket TTC. Man, going around the city really makes you feel so depressed.

This is why I especially like Kelly Clarkson's "Break Away". If only one day, I could break away from this shithole.

by Anonymousreply 9704/11/2013

Yes, OP, it compares terribly to Lagos.

by Anonymousreply 103/28/2013

How long until the mandatory Houston cheap shot?

by Anonymousreply 203/28/2013

You need to head over to LCBO and get a bottle of Ontario Whine, OP.

by Anonymousreply 303/28/2013

OP clearly has some weird disdain for the city. Couldn't afford the rent or something?

Toronto is definitely ugly. But it's suuuuper eclectic and gay-friendly. Most guys downtown are gay.

OP should take a trip to Dhaka, Bangladesh.

by Anonymousreply 403/28/2013

[quote]I have to travel to work riding its rust bucket TTC.

Me too. Haven't you been on any of the new subway trains? And the new streetcars are being rolled out next year.

Go vist Cleveland and get back to us.

by Anonymousreply 503/28/2013

They campaigned to get foreigners to move there a couple decades ago, and now I'm sure they regret it. I imagine it will be renamed West Kabul someday.

by Anonymousreply 603/28/2013

Wow, is Toronto really that big of a shithole? I've never been there, but if it's that bad, I won't bother going.

by Anonymousreply 703/28/2013

I'm sure they don't regret it, especially as that welcome did not extend to Americans.

by Anonymousreply 803/28/2013

Toronto is wonderful, not a shithole.

That said if you want to leave it and marry an American...

by Anonymousreply 903/28/2013

As someone who's lived in Toronto for 12 years, I can understand the sentiment expressed by OP but he's being a bit of a drama queen. It's nondescript and bland rather than ugly, without amazing culture or architecture, the TTC is indeed complete crap, but there are far worse places to live. It is horribly overpriced, even in comparison to, say, NYC. If you have a cushy job and make a lot of money, it is comfortable and convenient.

by Anonymousreply 1003/28/2013

I am so surprised to hear this. I thought it was friendly, clean, the buildings had personality.

Maybe one visit does not tell the whole tale but I found it quite nice.

by Anonymousreply 1103/28/2013

Toronto is a nice city, very clean and safe, plenty of shopping, nice restaurants, and there is somewhat of an art and theatre scene.

But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism. You get a bit of Italy here, a little India there and a whole lot of China over there, but you're left wondering, what exactly is Toronto? Vancouver has the gorgeous scenery and Montreal has the French thing, Toronto is just...there.

by Anonymousreply 1203/28/2013

The Canadians I know intensely dislike Toronto as being full of ... for lack of a better term, snotty yuppies. I've always found the train stations themselves incredibly depressing places, miserable colour scheme, while being sterile at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 1403/28/2013

[quote]It's nondescript and bland rather than ugly, without amazing culture or architecture,

This is exactly how I've always imagined it.

Goes to show...you don't need to go to Toronto, to know what Toronto's like.

by Anonymousreply 1503/28/2013

Why does everything in Canada seem like 10 years behind the times? The fashion and decor seems so dated.

by Anonymousreply 1603/28/2013

Toronto is wonderful. Architecturally mongrelized, yes, but incredibly heterogeneous, fantastic transit...and the islands!

Too bad it's north of here.

by Anonymousreply 1703/28/2013

Horrible transit if you have to live here.

Otherwise, what R10 said.

by Anonymousreply 1803/28/2013

You guys need to take the NYC subway! TTC crap? Bliss!

by Anonymousreply 1903/28/2013

Toronto and its people are cold. And flat, like its environs.

by Anonymousreply 2103/28/2013

[quote]But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism.

It tries to be all things to all peoples and ends up being not quite anything to anyone, which is both its beauty and its failing.

Personally, I'm sick to death of the diversity mania. I don't give a fuck how you did things in whatever land of eternal fuckery you fled. You're in Canada now, bitches - learn to drive properly, don't cut in lines and say please and thank-you.

by Anonymousreply 2203/28/2013

I'm from New Orleans. Come on down, sweetie. (you might want to bring your bullet proof vest)

by Anonymousreply 2303/28/2013

"Worst city in the world"

Hey op, fuck you, it's not my fault you live/work in a shitty part of town

by Anonymousreply 2503/28/2013

Is Toronto replacing Chicago as the new DL urban punching bag fav?

by Anonymousreply 2603/28/2013

Yes OP, it's a shithole. Amazing that The Economist has consistently ranked it among the 5 most livable cities on Earth. Or that its population continues to grow by tens of thousands every year to the point where it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city.

by Anonymousreply 2703/28/2013

[quote]Brussels is the worst place on the planet.

I have a friend who visited there and said that it was nothing like she thought it would be - that there were tons of Muslims in hijabs and lots of buildings were just falling apart.

by Anonymousreply 2803/28/2013

I think I'd choose Toronto over any city in India. Once they're done raping women, they'll move on to men.

by Anonymousreply 2903/28/2013

Toronto is a shithole. Ugly, charmless, and such a whining grotesque wannabe, forever proclaiming it is a "world-class city." Ha. With that pig for a mayor, too.

by Anonymousreply 3003/28/2013

R27 has an L-shaped couch and a b&w oversized print of the NY skyline.

by Anonymousreply 3103/28/2013

"it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city"

I don't understand this. How? Mexico City is in North America. Metropolitan area: 21 million people.

And then there's New York City and Los Angeles.

I really don't think Toronto is North America's largest city, nor that Chicago is in 2nd place. Unless you're talking square miles or something, and I thought L.A. was pretty sprawling.

by Anonymousreply 3203/28/2013

"But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism."

This is so true. At first they had boring provincial WASPS, and then they added multicultural overdose. They went from boring...to boring, in another form. But they tell themselves they are exciting now, because the real estate prices went up.

by Anonymousreply 3303/28/2013

Out of the cities I've actually been to, I'd have to say Moscow. Expensive, ugly and violent.

I also found Milan very disappointing compared to what I was expecting. Long way from a shithole though.

by Anonymousreply 3403/28/2013

[quote]Mexico City is in North America

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 3503/28/2013

[quote]I also found Milan very disappointing compared to what I was expecting.

Why, what were you expecting? Maybe you were affected by all the 'fashion' talk. Not a good idea.

by Anonymousreply 3603/28/2013

R35. Oh dear

by Anonymousreply 3703/28/2013

R27 might be Glen Murray.

[quote] "But it's so multicultural that it's boring. Toronto doesn't really have an identity other than its multiculturalism."

I also agree with this. One would think that it would result in something interesting culturally and otherwise. Instead, it very much feels like different ethnic communities living side by side, remaining insular, instead of coming together and enriching each other's experiences.

by Anonymousreply 3803/28/2013

I have been to New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sao paolo, Mexico City, Paris, London, Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Cairo, tel aviv, Jerusalem, Beijing, Hong Kong. Shanghai, Jakarta, Myanmar, Bangkok, all of Vietnam, and countless other cities...Brussels is the worst.

by Anonymousreply 3903/28/2013

r35 doesn't know that Mexico City is located in North America? The 'Oh, Dear' troll has just earned herself an 'Oh Dear!'

by Anonymousreply 4003/28/2013

R39 Tell us about more about Brussels

by Anonymousreply 4103/28/2013

[quote] I have been to New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Sao paolo, Mexico City, Paris, London, Brussels, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Cairo, tel aviv, Jerusalem, Beijing, Hong Kong. Shanghai, Jakarta, Myanmar, Bangkok, all of Vietnam, and countless other cities...Brussels is the worst.

Try Auckland. An abomination in one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 4203/28/2013

I meant 4th largest city, oops.

And R31 lives in a dumpster.

by Anonymousreply 4303/28/2013

R42 What's wrong with Aucklund? It may be boring, but is it really the "worst"?

by Anonymousreply 4403/28/2013

Naples? Papeete?

by Anonymousreply 4503/28/2013

R36 Yes, I suppose I was affected by all the fashion talk - I expected to be like Paris. Instead I found a charmless city of post-industrial brutalism. Not horrible by any means but just totally at odds with what I was expecting.

by Anonymousreply 4603/28/2013

R27 is like these idiots in Vancouver, who are ALWAYS pointing to some useless ranking that puts Toronto or Vancouver on some top ten list that includes other amazing cities...like...Melbourne and Perth...

Yeah, forget about NY and London and Paris...it's all about Calgary and Perth!

The only interesting city, real city, in Canada - Montreal isn't even on these stupid lists (and neither is NY, London, Paris), but... Calgary is. Calgary actually might be uglier than Toronto and more brainless than Vancouver. Shove these useless rankings up your ass - they are for businessmen that want parking spaces, and they have nothing to do with what is a great city.

by Anonymousreply 4703/28/2013

R47 = Montrealer, ranked #16

by Anonymousreply 4803/28/2013

R31 speaks the truth!

by Anonymousreply 4903/28/2013

NYC is the worst. It is the bane of my existence.

by Anonymousreply 5003/28/2013

Geez...I guess I will never leave New York.

by Anonymousreply 5103/28/2013

The Mayor of Toronto hates his life so much that he's become a raging alcoholic!!!

by Anonymousreply 5203/28/2013

The mayor of Toronto hates Toronto so much he has become an alcoholic. The people who voted for him hate themselves.

by Anonymousreply 5303/28/2013

R2, I think you did the job yourself.

I've been to every major and most minor cities in the USA and Canada. Toronto is just bland and as others have said, lacking identity. For truly horrible, the Midwest Rust Belt and Cancer Coast of Texas-Louisiana-Mississippi-Alabama can't be beat.

by Anonymousreply 5403/28/2013

R27? Sweetie?

by Anonymousreply 5503/28/2013

Funny...I love Toronto. To each his own.

by Anonymousreply 5603/28/2013

In Datalounge every city in the world, including Paris, London and Toronto, is a shithole compared to New York! There. Now can we never have another "let's shit on (fill in the blank)" thread again?

by Anonymousreply 5703/29/2013

I can only speak to the places I've visited so I'd have to say London is the worst. Horrifically expensive, no one speaks English, terrible overcrowding, sewer odors and rude/arrogant locals. Oh, and the food really does still suck. Another decade or so you won't be able to tell it apart from Lagos.

by Anonymousreply 5803/29/2013

Toronto? The worst city in the world?

You overprivileged piece of shit!

by Anonymousreply 5903/29/2013

Have you been to Caracas or San Pedro Sula lately? To Mogadishu or Karachi?

by Anonymousreply 6003/29/2013

R54 is right. New York City is truly vile.

by Anonymousreply 6103/29/2013

are you sure that wasn't Toronto, R58?

by Anonymousreply 6203/29/2013

I still plan to spend a couple weeks there in September.

I've always wanted to go to Canada - hell, to LIVE in Canada - since I was 12 (and I am OLD now).

I'll have a wonderful time, I'm sure - as long as I don't run into the miserable OP. (sorry, hon)

by Anonymousreply 6303/29/2013

R41 - There is one TINY part of the city that is quaint/older looking with nice stores, restaurants, etc. The rest of it is a burned out dirty shit hole that looks like it had no renovations after the air raids of WWII. The first time I went there I had to take the train from Amsterdam. When we got to the station in London I honestly thought I had taken a train back in time to a Berlin station in 1946. Completely filthy, graffiti and trash every where. Insult to injury, the "taxi" we had to take to the hotel looked, and smelled, like a Soviet era Trabant. The people there are classless cretins, but because a lot of them speak French they tend to look down their horribly disfigured noses at anyone. Brussels is truly the only place I have ever been in the world where I couldn't find one redeeming quality.

by Anonymousreply 6403/29/2013

Oops, Brussels not London.

by Anonymousreply 6503/29/2013

It's true about Bruxelles! Levis HQ is in Brussels and I worked there for a year before moving to Paris. The people for some reason are hideously ugly and backwards. The Grand Place in the center is rather pretty and there is the best chocolate I've ever had at Pierre Marcolini. But nothing else to recommend it.

by Anonymousreply 6603/29/2013

Brussels was the best of all the cities you went to. The problem was with you, not with Brussels. Obvious rethug politicunt posting there.

Toronto is beautiful and full of strapping hunks who love recreational sex with foreigners.

by Anonymousreply 6703/29/2013

This is the most famous landmark in Brussels/Bruxelles...

by Anonymousreply 6803/29/2013

What makes Toronto so bad is its refusal to accept it is nothing more than land for foreign owned condos and American franchises.

In the 1980s, Toronto used to actually have original culture, but not today.

Few people born in Canada still live in Toronto, so it is barely Canadian anymore.

by Anonymousreply 6903/31/2013

Toronto is a great city. Love it. A bit expensive, but way better than...

Florence Paris London Rome

and don't even get me started on Asia! Tokoyo! Man, they sure have a strange slant on things, starting with their eyes.

HAHAHAHAHA

by Anonymousreply 7004/01/2013

Toronto is pretty bad

by Anonymousreply 7104/01/2013

OP has obviously not been to Dayton, OH

by Anonymousreply 7204/01/2013

He specified "City"

by Anonymousreply 7304/01/2013

It is falsely assumed that so many people move to the city because they are interesting and cultural.

This is a false notion.

People move to the city because that is where the increasingly hard to find jobs are today. Unfortunately these jobs are often paying low wages and thus enters the quagmire of urban life and the emergence of 400 Sq Ft apartments.

by Anonymousreply 7404/01/2013

Uh, the worst city in the world is Port Moresby. Then maybe Ulaan Baatar. Antananaravo is 3rd Canada is a certain kind of over-taxed socialism that's not for me. There is only one major urban area in the country GTA. The whole area is sad because of all the landed immigrants who came looking for opportunity but unfortunately the economy of Can can't absorb their skills, so a lot of cab driving iranian neurosurgeons. I was married to a c--- canadian who stole all my money. Having said all that, Toronto is not a bad place. It doesn't stink of garbage and urine like NYC in July. plenty of neighborhoods to get a drink. summer is not long so they enjoy it, festivals etc

by Anonymousreply 7504/01/2013

Worst city is Washington D.C. So many assholes there! Way too many to count.

by Anonymousreply 7704/01/2013

Canada and most of our northern states...full of mosquitoes, it's hard to put up with them.

by Anonymousreply 7804/01/2013

Toronto is actually one of my favorite places, though it is kind of blandly modern, steel and glass towers kind of place.

Remington's and other places around that area were always loads of fun, lol.

It is definitely cold climate, though. I'd rather live there than Chicago or Boston or DC.

Guys in Toronto are hot, and it's basically a gay-friendly place.

by Anonymousreply 7904/01/2013

R46, yes I agree with you - Milan is awful - great food and fashion and architecture, which is why it's so weird that the city is so offensive on so many levels.

by Anonymousreply 8004/01/2013

[quote]"it's now passed Chicago as North America's largest city"

[quote]I don't understand this. How? Mexico City is in North America. Metropolitan area: 21 million people.

I think that should have been "as North America's third-largest metro area," because it now is.

by Anonymousreply 8104/01/2013

I'm going to Milan, so what's the problem?

by Anonymousreply 8204/01/2013

No, it's 4th largest now, after Ciudad Mexico, NY and LA. And that's for the city proper, not the conurbation. Chicago is still bigger in that sense.

by Anonymousreply 8304/01/2013

The central part of Toronto (Downtown, Queens Park, The Annex) is beautiful but the urban/suburban sprawl surrounding it is ugly and depressing, especially in winter which is about 7 months long.

by Anonymousreply 8404/10/2013

I remember listening to Jamaican secretaries at my NYC hospital in the 1990s complaining about how their relatives in Toronto were being surrounded by immigrants from Hong Kong.

by Anonymousreply 8504/10/2013

I found Mumbai distasteful.

by Anonymousreply 8604/10/2013

[quote]I remember listening to Jamaican secretaries at my NYC hospital in the 1990s complaining about how their relatives in Toronto were being surrounded by immigrants from Hong Kong

Bitch, PLEASE.

At least THEY aren't shooting up the place.

by Anonymousreply 8704/10/2013

You won't find many people who were born in Canada, still living in Toronto today.

by Anonymousreply 8804/10/2013

R82, it's smoggy and crowded - crowded not in a picturesque, Old World way, but more in a grungy, run-down, utililtarian way. Yes, the Cathedral and La Scala are nice. The food is superb. The main train station is also interesting - the art nouveau reliefs sort of scream 1920's or 30's. But there is a lot of petty street crime and gypsies and the people who live there are very VERY gruff. It's worth ONE visit, maybe for two days. That's it.

In the 80's, I dated a hot little Alitalia FA who was based in Milan. There's a place, the Hotline Club, which is probably the Hot Text Club now, if it's even there any longer. And then there was a huge gay disco on the outskirts of the city.

by Anonymousreply 8904/11/2013

R86 - I agree, Mumbai and Delhi are horrible, but you sort of expect that when you go there and it isn't as much of a shock. Brussels, being in a first world country, I expected to be first world. It is a shit stain on the underwear of humanity.

by Anonymousreply 9004/11/2013

R90, but I love their sprouts.

by Anonymousreply 9104/11/2013

I agree, I guess every place does have its bright spot!

by Anonymousreply 9204/11/2013

Toronto is banality personified. It so desperately wants to be Chicago or New York but never will be; it lacks the architectural heritage, sense of identity, and homegrown culture. Like another poster alluded to, it's tries to be everything to everyone and ends up being a place of nothingness.

In terms of intersting Canadian cities, I would cite: Halifax, Montreal, Winnipeg. That's all.

by Anonymousreply 9304/11/2013

Toronto is fourth-largest ONLY if you don't take metro-area population into account, which in this day and age is retarded. Using this REALISTIC list, Toronto comes in seventh, below Chicago, Houston and DFW (and it ain't catching up with the latter two, given that Texas is one of the few places not hugely hurt by the recession).

by Anonymousreply 9404/11/2013

When you judge cities, determining whether they appeal to you, whether you would want to visit, revisit, or live there, do you actually consider the entire city? Or, do you ignore the bad or boring areas if (a) they're places you really wouldn't need to go if in the city (like many ghetto areas in big cities), and (b) there's a lot in the city that you like which offsets whatever it is you find negative?

by Anonymousreply 9504/11/2013

[quote]Have you been to Caracas or San Pedro Sula lately? To Mogadishu or Karachi?

I'm assuming OP's "worst" designation was to drive home the point how awful he thinks Toronto is, not because it's actually, objectively the worst. Sort of like saying "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse" generally just means you're really hungry, not that you could eat a whole horse.

I find Toronto "fine."

by Anonymousreply 9604/11/2013

[quote] "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse"

Try the Swedish meatballs at Ikea.

by Anonymousreply 9704/11/2013
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