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How guilty do I have to feel about this?

I had this cute straight dormmate in college whom I fancied a lot. He was the spitting image of Rupert Grint from the Harry Potter films (I know of at least one girl who actually believed it was him for a while, and was pranked by her friends confirming it).

One day he fucked me over in a way that almost got me expelled for something he did (the details aren't important, but it did involve something illegal on his part.) He apologized to me, and said he'd do "anything" to make it up to me (and, presumably, not have me tell on him). I replied, in an angry but jokey way, "Will you let me fuck you in the ass then?". To my surprise (and instant erection), he agreed to it. The fact that he did this so readily made me think that he must secretly want it, at least on some level.

That evening I had him get on his hands and knees and fucked him doggy-style on his bed. His ass was great, outside and inside. When I entered him, I told him I'd been wanting this arse since freshman week. I entered him very carefully, using a shitload of lube. Once I got going, I called him "you bitch" and "you whore" a few times. I dragged the whole thing out to get the most out of it.

Then suddenly I heard sobbing noises from him, and realized he was softly crying (maybe already for a while). This excited me so much that I didn't last much longer and soon shot my load very hard. It was possibly the best orgasm I've ever had.

Afterwards I started to feel guilty, and asked him if he was alright. He said yes, but was very monosyllabic and didn't look at me.

Ever since, the incident has been both a source of guilt and masturbation fodder for me...

by Anonymousreply 8303/19/2013

This is the story of how Log Cabin Republicans were formed, isn't it OP?

by Anonymousreply 103/15/2013

Put yourself in his position. How would you feel if the situation was reversed?

by Anonymousreply 203/15/2013

Sounds to me like he deserved your huge throbbing cock, OP. (and probably loved every minute)

by Anonymousreply 303/15/2013

The question is which British poster are you?

by Anonymousreply 403/15/2013

Sounds manipulative on his part, that he really wanted it and got something for it, you taking the fall for something he did.

by Anonymousreply 503/15/2013

Rupert Graves would have been believable. Hot for Rupert Grint? Then obviously something is wrong with you.

by Anonymousreply 603/15/2013

This sounds like a story from Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park. If you're not familiar with the place, it's for telling any lie out loud that people are willing to listen. You can tell the truth or promote a new idea, but this post certainly covers the "telling lies" part.

by Anonymousreply 703/15/2013

Querelle, this is Nono, you promised to never tell.

by Anonymousreply 803/15/2013

Why British, r4?

by Anonymousreply 903/15/2013

If this is a true story, this is essentially rape.

by Anonymousreply 1003/15/2013

R9, I assume it's because of "fancied" in the first sentence, and because he switches back and forth between "ass" and "arse" like an actor letting his accent slip.

There's also the period outside the quotation marks, another thing no American does.

by Anonymousreply 1103/15/2013

He was crying with gratification

by Anonymousreply 1203/15/2013

Indeed, r11.

Plus r10 is right. Skeevy and horrible scenario.

by Anonymousreply 1303/15/2013

[quote]There's also the period outside the quotation marks, another thing no American does. [/quote]

Ha!

by Anonymousreply 1403/15/2013

Sex without consent, that is Rape 1

Punishable offense.

by Anonymousreply 1503/15/2013

It was blackmail RAPE

by Anonymousreply 1603/15/2013

He had consent. Silly.

by Anonymousreply 1703/15/2013

Sorry OP- both you, and he, sound pathetic to me. I suppose this is your fantasy, either come true or as yet unfulfilled.

by Anonymousreply 1803/15/2013

[quote] He had consent. Silly.

Please quote in the OP where consent was given.

by Anonymousreply 1903/15/2013

He loved it, get over your guilt.

by Anonymousreply 2003/15/2013

Nothing about this story is remotely believable.

by Anonymousreply 2103/15/2013

"To my surprise (and instant erection), he agreed to it."

by Anonymousreply 2203/15/2013

Dear Penthouse Forum: I never believed anything like this would happen to me . . . .

by Anonymousreply 2303/15/2013

Yep I see that R22

by Anonymousreply 2403/15/2013

You should feel very very guilty...for writing bad porn.

by Anonymousreply 2503/15/2013

I thought about jerking off while reading the story.

by Anonymousreply 2603/15/2013

Are you hoping for a happy Luke & Laura ending? Not bloody likely.

by Anonymousreply 2703/15/2013

Assuming this is true, he may have agreed to let you fuck him because he really felt bad about what he did to you and felt this was deserved punishment. He was crying because he felt degraded and abused.

Or, he liked it and you jump started a serious identity crisis.

by Anonymousreply 2803/15/2013

OP's pants are on fire.

by Anonymousreply 2903/15/2013

Dear Penthouse... I never thought this would happen to me...

by Anonymousreply 3003/15/2013

He coerced someone into sex by communicating that the act was the only means by which this guy could avoid something potentially life-altering. If a professor pressures a female student into sleeping with him so that she can pass a course and get a much desired college degree is that not only sexual harassment, but rape in the absence of willing, uncoerced consent? What the fuck is wrong with people like r22?

by Anonymousreply 3103/15/2013

Disgusting. You reduced a human being to tears by degrading him and it's very likely that you physically hurt him too.

Even if he agreed in the beginning it then changed and he probably didn't dare speak up.

I don't know what kind of psycho you are that seeing a sexual partner cry EXCITES YOU MORE, any sane person with a modicum of empathy would have stopped.

I hope your guilt choke you up, rapist.

by Anonymousreply 3203/15/2013

[quote] "Will you let me fuck you in the ass then?". To my surprise (and instant erection), he agreed to it

That's called consent, chickadees.

by Anonymousreply 3403/15/2013

[quote]Put yourself in his position.

That position was doggie style. OP probably has tried that, too.

by Anonymousreply 3503/15/2013

I've always wanted to fuck Rupert Grint.

by Anonymousreply 3603/15/2013

OP, the first time someone has sex it's usually traumatic. Get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 3703/15/2013

Make sure he knows it feels better the second time.

by Anonymousreply 3803/15/2013

[quote]That's called consent, chickadees.

Time to put the bottle down, W.C. Because, in light of the fact that he was being threatened with the consequences of another illegal action, it is most definitely not consent. It is submission to punishment.

by Anonymousreply 3903/15/2013

This is a case of two wrongs making a right.

Whether the story is true or not, it sounds like a hot scenario. There's a few logistical questions I have regarding a straight male bottoming for the first time but I'll save those for another thread.

by Anonymousreply 4003/15/2013

Liar.

by Anonymousreply 4103/15/2013

What happened after that, OP?

by Anonymousreply 4203/15/2013

On the contrary R39, there was no threat implied. He said he would "make it up" to OP and OP assumed he also wanted OP not to tell on him. OP did not insinuate or imply (in the story at least) that he was going to snitch on the little red-headed prick.

And if you were so smart, Mae, how did you get yourself effectively banned after 1933.

by Anonymousreply 4303/15/2013

I think you all know by now.

It's not rape rape

by Anonymousreply 4403/15/2013

W.C.-- Wrong again. He clearly stated that there was illegality involved in whatever he didn't want revealed. He said:

[quote]it did involve something illegal on his part.) He apologized to me, and said he'd do "anything" to make it up to me (and, presumably, not have me tell on him).

So: OP presumed that this guy was trying to avoid legal repercussions, and he admits this in the original story. By doing this, he admits knowing that he is exploiting his relatively powerful position as holder of this confidence; even if the other guy was mistaken or exaggerating his possible legal risks, it was clearly being preyed upon by the OP for his own enjoyment. The "presumably" is the key here--OP knew very well that the guy feared the law, and decided to use the guy's fear of the law to coerce his submission.

A first year law student could convict OP on that phrase alone.

by Anonymousreply 4503/15/2013

Seriously? For r19

[quote] "Will you let me fuck you in the ass then?". To my surprise (and instant erection), he agreed to it.

Since all of those words are hard for you to read...

[quote]he agreed to it

by Anonymousreply 4603/15/2013

It wasn't rape because OP used plenty of lube.

Red-headed bitch had it coming.

by Anonymousreply 4703/15/2013

Ok, a couple of things - there never was any kind of threat from me , not even implied. He was the one who came up to me and said he'd do (I quote) "anything", so if he really just did it out of fear, it was more a bribe than blackmail (even if he wasn't expecting me to make this particular request). When I made the request, I didn't mean it seriously. And when I saw that he agreed to it, I thought that he must acting either out of guilt or out of sexual curiosity (or a combination of both). The thought that fear may have been the main or single motivation didn't really occur to me at first (because my behaviour before had not suggested that I was planning on telling on him) - that only came later, after his tears.

Regarding the fact that i was turned on by his crying - that was just my animal reaction. That may be unsavoury, but I don't think it's all that out of the ordinary. I wouldn't have kept fucking him for a long while after noticing that he was crying, not without asking him if he was ok - but it just so happened that his crying quickly brought me to orgasm, before I really had the chance to react to it on a rational or empathic level. That came afterwards.

[quote]There's a few logistical questions I have regarding a straight male bottoming for the first time but I'll save those for another thread.

I think I can guess and answer one of these: Not completely/a lttle bit, but I wasn't fussed about it.

by Anonymousreply 4803/15/2013

Rape and blackmail.

You should be jailed.

by Anonymousreply 4903/15/2013

How the fuck didn't he consent?

If you ask someone who is competent to make the decision to have sex with you and he says yes, that is consent.

The fact that the guy offered to do anything to make it up to you doesn't at all vitiate his consent to have sex with you when that was your request, even if that request were made in earnest, let alone when the request was made as a joke.

by Anonymousreply 5003/15/2013

There was no blackmail.

(no one said you do this or else I will do something that damages you; to the contrary, the guy felt guilty and offered to do anything to make it up to you)

There was no rape.

(there was consent to have sex, not the absence of it).

Therefore, there was no blackmail rape.

by Anonymousreply 5103/15/2013

You should feel guilty that you weren't smart enough to make the deal that in exchange for your silence you got to use him sexually whenever, wherever.

by Anonymousreply 5203/15/2013

If someone starts crying when you're fucking them and you don't stop immediately - and in fact it makes you more aroused - you're raping them.

by Anonymousreply 5303/15/2013

Did Mr. Ginger have a nice, tight, clean hole?

by Anonymousreply 5403/15/2013

Don't feel guilty. The fucker was blackmailing you. Besides, you had his fucking consent the second he dropped his bloomers and bent the fuck over. Man up.

by Anonymousreply 5503/15/2013

R53

But if someone cries during sex and it turns the other person on even more and that person keeps crying... it means they like it too.

by Anonymousreply 5603/15/2013

Right here, R19:

[quote]He apologized to me, and said he'd do "anything" to make it up to me

by Anonymousreply 5703/15/2013

If OP had suggested money instead of sex, would it not be extortion not matter how enthusiastically the other party agreed to the terms?

I have to admit that I find the ethics of the "but he consented" posters really rather depressing. As for the OP: you're a rapist, and if there's one thing worse than that it's a rapist who admits to getting off to the memory of it. Your family and friends would be so proud.

by Anonymousreply 5803/15/2013

OP Did he get a boner? Did he come? You should at least have sucked him off when you finished fucking him.

by Anonymousreply 5903/15/2013

Sorry R45 (Alberto Gonzales apparently posts on datalounge), but a first year law student could not construe OP's actions as a threat. Nor could he construe a bit of crying by the bottom as any kind of withdrawal of consent. Lots of people cry from sex and it doesn't mean they withdrew their consent. Did he yell, "STOP"? No. Lawyers who think they can twist anything, that it's all a game to the highest bidder, those people piss me off.

by Anonymousreply 6003/15/2013

Alberto Gonzalez and R58 are clearly making assumptions not warranted by the facts. OP is not required to be a mind-reader as you suggest. He was given clear consent and it was never withdrawn. Nor did he promise anything in return for sex, and he did not even initiate the exchange. "I'd do anything" clearly includes sex.

by Anonymousreply 6103/15/2013

Just curious, OP: What size is your peter? Many say anal sex is painful the first time. It could have been painful to him. What did he say afterwards? Does he seem embarrassed around you?

by Anonymousreply 6203/15/2013

You're a rapist, OP.

by Anonymousreply 6303/15/2013

How long ago did this happen and what is your friendship like now?

by Anonymousreply 6403/15/2013

I'd do anything for you, dear, anything, for you mean everything to meeeeee!

by Anonymousreply 6503/15/2013

No. Money would not have been extortion.

by Anonymousreply 6603/15/2013

Wow. If this is true you are a real piece of shit, OP.

by Anonymousreply 6703/15/2013

On second thought, I was being slightly disingenious earlier when I said the thought of him being motivated by "buying" my silence only popped up at the end - it was in the back of my mind earlier as well. When I called him a "whore", it was mainly to turn myself on, but it was also informed by that thought. I definitely didn't think it was his single Motivation, though. (This may be nitpicking, but I have to be honest with myself if I want an honest assessment here.)

[quote]Did Mr. Ginger have a nice, tight, clean hole?

Very nice and tight. Not totally clean (as implied earlier) - there was a bit of brown on the condom, but it was no big deal.

[quote]Did he get a boner? Did he come?

I didn't notice him getting a boner, but then again I wasn't paying much attention to his dick. I think I'd have noticed if he'd come, though.

[quote]What size is your peter? Many say anal sex is painful the first time. It could have been painful to him. What did he say afterwards? Does he seem embarrassed around you?

Average-sized. I don't think he was crying with pain, because that would have been worst at the start, wouldn't it? And he just groaned a bit when I entered him.

We didn't have much interaction afterwards.

[quote]How long ago did this happen and what is your friendship like now?

A couple of years ago. He wasn't really a friend, more an acquaintance.

by Anonymousreply 6803/15/2013

I think that was the other way around, r8.

by Anonymousreply 6903/15/2013

bump

by Anonymousreply 7003/16/2013

But what happened afterwards? was it ever mentioned again? Did you both carry on as if it never happened, was it just a one-off ? Did you ever try to repeat it ? Did he ever want more? Do you know if he is gay now ?

by Anonymousreply 7103/16/2013

Ah, just read your later post on your "friendship" now ...

Odd though that you were fucking him but had no interest in his dick - or in his pleasure, wouldnt he have enjoyed it more if you tried to play with his dick or get him aroused ? But you were just using him and his ass as just a recepticle to come into.

by Anonymousreply 7203/16/2013

It sounds like you just both had an Enjoyably Sensual Time together.

by Anonymousreply 7303/17/2013

Will there be a DVD?

by Anonymousreply 7403/19/2013

First of all I am not sure I believe you. But, assuming for a moment that you are telling the truth, this confirms all my stereotypical thoughts about British men.

by Anonymousreply 7503/19/2013

His crying was fake. Everyone knows gingers don't have souls or real feelings. ¡Duh!

by Anonymousreply 7603/19/2013

Rape is about power. About dominating another person. Degrading them. Looks like you enjoy the power, the dominance, and the degradation you caused.

This is why you set these terms in the first place - you wanted to get even for his bad choices by fucking him. You didn't want a pleasant romp that got you both off, which is why you didn't even notice whether your 'sexual partner' (victim) had an erection. You wanted to release your aggression in his 'tight ass'. You dominated and humiliated him.

I don't get excited nor orgasm if my partner whimpers or cries. I stop. It's just my animalistic nature that cares for my fellow human being. It's not rational.

I agree wholeheartedly with R32. This is utterly disgusting. He 'consented' because he felt backed into a corner. But really he was coerced into an abusive sexual experience. I feel for the guy. Surely he suffers every time it crosses his mind, whereas you get off when you think of it.

So, guilt? You know the answer already, which is why you even pose the question. It is in your best interest to work with a therapist trained in dealing with sex offenders to help you change and grow from being an abuser to becoming a decent human being who experiences empathy and compassion. Pretty sure any therapist would not turn you in for this, since it's not an ongoing crime.

Seek help. Don't let this get away from you. It could get bigger.

by Anonymousreply 7703/19/2013

OP, you may not legally be a rapist but you are disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 7803/19/2013

Is this even true? OP went out of his way to establish his limey-ness with the Rupert Grint shit and the "flavour" "colour" crap, I'm surprised he didn't nail him on the lift or in a lorry. I do hope he didn't leave the records of this in the boot of his car on the way to queue up for his Benny Hill tribute tickets.

by Anonymousreply 7903/19/2013

If this story is true (which it could be I suppose) then you have essentially raped the guy OP.

He obviously felt so bad for what he did to you that he let you do it. However, the end result is the same. Rape.

You must be so proud of yourself and how you came out of the situation in a really classy way huh?

He apologised to you and now you need to apologise to him.

by Anonymousreply 8003/19/2013

All gingers are natural bottoms. He was crying because he saw the light.

by Anonymousreply 8203/19/2013

So is he still talking to you these days OP?

by Anonymousreply 8303/19/2013
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