this troubles me.
Why did Barbra make "For Pete's Sake?"
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/17/2013|
Supposedly because of the bad reviews for her television special "Barbra Streisand and Other Musical Instruments", which was a serious foray into world music. It flopped and was badly reviewed by critics, who found it pretentious. In this frame of mind, Barbra decided she was going to eschew serious subject matter and do something light and funny. The unfortunate result was the very minor For Pete's Sake, quite unworthy of her talents, a trifle, but it was a success at the box office.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/14/2013|
It wasn't "What's Up Doc?" but I liked it.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/14/2013|
R1 has it wrong.
Barbra planned on making Funny Lady, but production on that huge film was delayed. It was decided that Streisand should not chance losing her audience for such a long interval between films and they came up with a short, easy to film, low budget quickie to shoot and get out to the public.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/14/2013|
R3 has it wrong. It was as I describe.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/14/2013|
For Pete's Sake was funny...maybe not What's Up Doc or The Owl and the Pussycat funny, but funny nonetheless. I love Barbra and would watch her read the phone book, but she became so serious in her movies, and she's quite comedic. I wish she made more comedies along the way.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/14/2013|
So you'd have something to bitch about several decades later, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/14/2013|
For Fuck's Sake!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/14/2013|
Kisses to R6. R4, you can go to Hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||03/14/2013|
I love it.
Especially at the end where she says goodbye to Pete.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/14/2013|
and everyone knows she only did WHATS UP DOC to keep Elliot Gould from being sued for breach of contract from Columbia Pictures, I believe it was. Apparently he was HEAVY into drugs and unable to work and was in contract to do a movie at the time...the only thing that saved him was Barbra offering her services to the studio and stepping in to do What's Up Doc, which she didn't want to do at all, and apparently had a miserable time filming, and regrets it to this day, and mostly was miserable on set. Madeline Kahn was even writing about the experience in her autobiography which barbra had blocked and then Madeline got sick so we'll never really know what went down.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/14/2013|
It helped pay her food bills. She was wolfing down far too much pot roast and could not afford it anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||03/14/2013|
I agree with people saying it was funny. Barbra seems to have a lot of snooty fans who think she's too good for this and that. Even What's Up Doc as mentioned as something she was supposedly too good for.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||03/14/2013|
I'm glad she did. It's the best movie she ever made. Love it. She made "For Pete's Sake" because she's so fucking fabulous.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||03/14/2013|
I would have made that pile of shit movie just to be close to that stallion Michael Sarrazin. Yum!
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/14/2013|
On the film Babs approached Molly Picon to be a consultant on Yentl. But Molly declined because she felt Babs knowledge of Judaism was pedestrian and a bit shocked by her lack of knowledge.
Estelle Parsons later said Babs refused to talk to her unless it was while they were acting for the cameras.
She said Babs was a very self-involved person.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||03/14/2013|
She wanted to sleep with a gorgeous goyische guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/14/2013|
Was this the start of the frizzy years?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||03/14/2013|
Didn't Sarrazin play Ben on Guiding Light?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||03/14/2013|
[quote]I would have made that pile of shit movie just to be close to that stallion Michael Sarrazin. Yum!
For Pete's Sake was on the ABC Movie Of The Week when I was about 9 years old. That scene of him in the bathtub, when he pulls her in... that was the first time I felt a little tingle down there.
The movie was a trifle, but a really funny trifle, especially when you're 9. Come on: a Brahman bull in a Winnebago? That's comedy gold to a kid.
[quote]Was this the start of the frizzy years?
No, in "For Pete's Sake" she had a short pixie cut.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||03/14/2013|
Something to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||03/14/2013|
Talking of Whats Up Doc I remember reading that Babs was very unhappy Peter Bogdanovich's girlfriend at the time Cybill Shepherd kept appearing on set and getting a lot of male attention to the point one day asking she be removed. Think it was in that Easy Riders Raging Bulls book. Ryan O'Neal and Cybill later had a fling years later apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||03/14/2013|
I'll guarantee there's not a person under 60 posting on this mother-fucker!!! I would be shocked if anyone under that age was posting on a thread for that old droopy woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||03/14/2013|
[quote]For Pete's Sake was on the ABC Movie Of The Week
So was "What's Up, Doc?". I had attention deficit disorder avant la lettre as a kid in the 70s; seeing "What's Up, Doc?" on TV was the first time I ever really paid attention to and understood something from beginning to end. I was utterly enthralled.
I watched the ABC Movie Of The Week religiously after that, hoping something else would be that funny. But nothing ever was.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||03/14/2013|
R22, hush, I'm 45. But it's a safe bet there are very few younger than 45.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||03/14/2013|
She did it because " the fuckin bitch likes her money"
|by Anonymous||reply 25||03/14/2013|
R22 I am NOT 60!!! I am 59. Go back to your Bieber, Lohan, and One Erection threads for fuck's sake!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||03/14/2013|
Her wig was distracting and the whole pork bellies thing was boring for those of us who wanted What's Up Doc II.
But I don't believe most of the "facts" on this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||03/14/2013|
She's pretty much miscast in anything she does.
Remember when Lisa Eichorn was fired from "All Night Long" and Babs was cast as a blonde sex kitten?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||03/14/2013|
I mean really, Streisand blocking Kahn's autobiography?
She's not GOD, you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||03/14/2013|
[quote]That scene of him in the bathtub, when he pulls her in... that was the first time I felt a little tingle down there.
Isn't that "The Owl and the Pussycat"? I've never seen "For Pete's Sake," but there's a scene very much like that in "The Owl and the Pussycat."
|by Anonymous||reply 30||03/14/2013|
I liked this movie a lot -- it introduced me to Molly Picon, and I am still using the line "she looks like a fat-assed grizzly bear" when I see some women in fur coats.
It was also the opening attraction at the 2,100-seat Loews Astor Plaza (6/26/74), the last single-screen movie "palace" built in Times Square, which is now a music venue.
And I also had a funny feeling down there during the bathtub scene!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||03/14/2013|
Didn't she meet Jon Peters because he designed the wig for her for this film?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||03/14/2013|
Lucille Ball turned this down when the studio refused to cast Gale Gordon has her love interest.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||03/14/2013|
I've never even seen stills of her in this. Wow--that was some kind of hairstyle. I've never seen her with hair like that before.
But she had to try it! Barbara Harris had that hairstyle before her, and Barbara Barrie had it after her--clearly, all women named Barb(a)ra had to have that hairstyle at some period.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||03/14/2013|
Yup. She should have known then how horrible his taste is.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/14/2013|
Molly Picon is a Tony and Emmy nominated actress
Best known as Natalie's grandmother on Facts of Life
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/14/2013|
[quote]I'll guarantee there's not a person under 60 posting on this mother-fucker!!!
Then you'd be a liar.
And do you know what Rosie O'Donnell says happens to liars??
|by Anonymous||reply 37||03/14/2013|
Molly Picon (Yiddish: מאָלי פּיקאָן; (February 28, 1898 – April 6, 1992) (age 94) was an American actress of stage, screen and television, as well as a lyricist and dramatic storyteller.
She was first and foremost a star in Yiddish theatre and film, but in time she turned to English-language productions.
Years active 1904–1984.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||03/14/2013|
Barbra stole songwriting credit for Evergreen.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||03/14/2013|
R1, you are so off, but funny.
She did "Barbra Streisand and Other Musical Instruments" because she owed CBS the last TV special of her 1965 contract.
R10, "What's up Doc" wasn't even an idea when she signed on. Bogdanovich made it up.
For Pete's Sake sucked BAD. In 1974, Streisand was what we were told over and over -- the only female box office draw in the top ten -- and what does she do with it? She pisses it away on crap like For Pete's Sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||03/14/2013|
Oh, for Pete's sake!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||03/14/2013|
Classic Streisand moment with the drug dog on the subway, especially the subtle moment she spots him. I too miss that Barbra and, no, "Fockers" didn't come close (though she's not bad).
|by Anonymous||reply 42||03/14/2013|
Estelle Parsons was not fond at all of Streisand and basically said she was a terrible person.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||03/14/2013|
Molly Picon had to tell Streisand that the Warsaw Ghetto had been destroyed during WW2. Apparently, Streisand wanted to film Yentl there. (She had asked Picon for advice). Babs is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, nor the most educated.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||03/14/2013|
R34, she looks great in that pic.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||03/14/2013|
Which is why Molly turns Babs down flat to be a paid consultant on Yentl.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||03/14/2013|
R42 - look at the subway turn-stiles. They're the old ones you could jump over. Not anymore, you can barely get a large bag thru them now.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||03/14/2013|
Original title, very catchy: "Porkbelly Blues", right, fellow Streisand queens (the only "queen" title I will proudly wear).
"For Pete's Sake" was just as awful a title, though, really.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||03/14/2013|
The original title was "July (something)" No blues, r48.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||03/14/2013|
Madeline Kahn was the difficult one on the set of What's Up, Doc? Everyone who worked on that movie said that Kahn basically kept to herself the whole time. Barbra stayed friends with everyone on the movie, including Kahn.
I thought For Pete's Sake was hilarious for a wacky comedy. It has many LOL moments and many great performances. It's directed by Peter Yates. I loved the actress who played the black maid. She and Barbra had amazing chemistry together.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||03/14/2013|
Kahn was a gifted comedienne, but she could be trouble on occasion.
Lucy had no choice but to fire her when she didn't show up in costume during rehearsals for Mame. She then managed to get Blazing Saddles immediately after getting canned, which caused Ball to think that she had wanted to get let go.
She also had a difficult time when she hosted SNL.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||03/14/2013|
Madeline Kahn won an Emmy for playing Ben Affleck's mom
|by Anonymous||reply 52||03/14/2013|
Holy Moley, there's more fiction in this thread than all of the "For Pete's Sake" script. Picon and Parsons did not hate her, though on a gossip site I guess it's good print. That "Pete" hairstyle is courtesy of Jon Peters who she hired.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||03/14/2013|
Kahn was also a terror during the Broadway run of "On the Twentieth Century."
|by Anonymous||reply 54||03/14/2013|
[quote]I'll guarantee there's not a person under 60 posting on this mother-fucker!!!
oh you are so wrong r22....You should have been to her concert at the Hollywood Bowl...it was a wonderful cruise fest for the upper class younger set....the event of the season I'd say!!
|by Anonymous||reply 55||03/14/2013|
You're right, R49, or we are both on right track. Original title:
"July Pork Bellies".
Seriously. Even worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||03/14/2013|
I have something nice to say about Madeline Khan, she actually responded to a handwritten letter I mailed to her.
It is winter 73/74. I'm a freshman in college, miserable, lonely, confused and I'm stuck in this "slum-on-a-hill" college in NY state. I drink. I think I'm gay. I hate myself. I have no friends. You get the picture.
I knew of Kahn from one of her movies and liked her alot. I got Time magazine and learned that she was on or off Broadway in a show called, The Boom Boom Room.
It wasn't hard to get the theater address from the NY Times, so I sent her a letter about how much I liked her movie(s) and how much I liked her, a bit about me and then I told her is she ever needed an escort or a date to some event, I would be pleased to join her.
What a jerk I was!!!
Two weeks later I get a letter back from her, handwritten, very brief but thanking me for the confidence I had in her and her career and that if I ever came into NYC (not likely, I was 6 hours away---she must have figured that out), she encouraged me to see the show and to stop by backstage to meet her.
She doesn't seem like a miserable, difficult pisser to me.
I lost the letter when, while moving, my car was broken into and its contents stolen, dammit.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||03/14/2013|
Barbra actually rode that Brahma bull through the streets of NYC. It's hard to picture her doing something like that today.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||03/14/2013|
Wrong, Mrs. Cherry. That sequence was shot in LA on the Burbank lot. Peter Yates said as much on the DVD commentary for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||03/14/2013|
What is the story on "What's Up Doc" regarding Elliot Gould? Barbra made it for him? Why?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||03/14/2013|
She bought out his share of a movie called A Glimpse. Of Tiger after he freaked out and it was shelved. It was never made.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||03/14/2013|
The theme! I love how movies of that era had themes!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||03/14/2013|
Someone on DL once said that A Glimpse of Tiger had the same plot as What's Up Doc only they switched the sexes on who was the kooky one and who was the stiff one...True?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||03/14/2013|
[quote]I loved the actress who played the black maid.
That was Loretta. She wasn't Henry's maid. She was a cleaning lady. And she had a cleaning lady of her own. And yes, she and Henry had some funny scenes together.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||03/14/2013|
Why on earth would Barbra want to talk to Estelle Parsons?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||03/14/2013|
You can see the mountains down the street in some of the city shots with the bull.
All you tub fans, watch the clip, you can see Sarrazin wearing tiny white briefs.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||03/15/2013|
Think that was required because Jon Peters had a fit. Or was that when Kristoferson was nude in HIS bathtub scene with her later?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||03/15/2013|
Mrs. Cherry made me do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||03/15/2013|
Its a good movie not a classic like WUD but much funnier than Fockers and so-called comedies like The Mirror Has Two faces and The Guilt Trip but some of the jokes do not age well. Then again WUD's final joke is a big flaw cause NO ONE remembers Love Story...
Why would Picon turn down Barbra because of her lack of Yiddish knowledge? Seems to me that should be the reason she would say yes..
To this day 40 years later I use tiger for several internet passwords...
|by Anonymous||reply 69||03/15/2013|
She had to make 5 films for Ray Stark. FPS was the fourth and Funny Lady was the fifth...
|by Anonymous||reply 70||03/15/2013|
Why so much hate for "For Pete's Sake?" It's a trifle, but a funny one. And Barbra looks fantastic -- I actually think the pixie-cut wig suits her, and her figure was never better than in this movie, IMO. She wears the hell out of those hip-hugging bell-bottoms.
I actually like FPS better now than I do "What's Up, Doc?" which I used to love years ago, but today seems creaky and labored. Though Kenneth Mars and Madeline Kahn are both highlights.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||03/15/2013|
R63, they were going to make the main character female in A Glimpse of tiger. That movie was never made. Peter Bogdanovich, Robert Benton and David Newman wrote a screwball comedy in 2 weeks and called it What's up Doc. Not the same movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||03/15/2013|
Estelle was one of the biggest cunts in film history in this movie. Maybe Barbra was method acting,she never says anything bad about co-workers....
|by Anonymous||reply 73||03/15/2013|
I know. Who could believe that the woman who made such masterpieces as The Main Event, Up The Sandbox, All Night Long, Little Fockers, and The Guilt Trip would condescend to do a piece of shit like For Pete's Sake?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||03/15/2013|
[quote] Why would Picon turn down Barbra because of her lack of Yiddish knowledge? Seems to me that should be the reason she would say yes.
Because she treated her like crap on FPS
|by Anonymous||reply 75||03/15/2013|
UP THE sandbox is a minor classic and All Night Long is underrated...
|by Anonymous||reply 76||03/15/2013|
Oh this is one of her funniest movies! I'm disturbed as to why you dislike it! It's a fun romp and she does that crazy lady act so well.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||03/15/2013|
What is the deal on her not really writing the music for Evergreen?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||03/15/2013|
No need to watch the movie. Just watch R72's trailer and you've seen the whole thing.
I remember while the movie was being filmed, TIME ran a picture of Streisand poking her head out of a manhole, wearing a silly hat and bad wig.
I thought, "Oh, great! Another film like What's Up Doc?" Alas, no.
I find the humor in "For Pete's Sake" very forced.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||03/15/2013|
There is nothing inspired about 'For Pete's Sake.' It was written as a formulaic comedy and that's exactly how it plays. It's about on the level of a mediocre television sitcom.
Supposedly, Barbra only had the opening bars of 'Evergreen' written when Rupert Holmes stepped in and helped her with the rest. No one knows exactly how much of the song he wrote, or if they do, they're not talking. Barbra can write, she had written a couple of songs before this, so I don't think he's responsible for all of it. But he did help write the music and did not receive credit. At least, that's the rumour.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||03/15/2013|
I wrote the note for "chair" in easychair
|by Anonymous||reply 81||03/15/2013|
FPS is as funny as any of the "Hangover" movies or 99% of the so-called comedies Hollywood cranks out today.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||03/15/2013|
thanks R80 !
It sounds right to me. If she was really that talented would she stop with just this song?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||03/15/2013|
R82 Why are so many of you using "The Hangover" as the gold standard against which all comedies must be measured?
For Pete's Sake isn't as breezily funny as Bridesmaids. It is very calculated; like a sitcom.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||03/15/2013|
I always wondered why they didn't reshoot the bathtub scene. You could totally see Michael Sarazen's underwear.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||03/15/2013|
[quote]I always wondered why they didn't reshoot the bathtub scene. You could totally see Michael Sarazen's underwear.
"This ain't Citizen Kane we're making here!"
-- Miss Streisand, bellowing at the director when asked to do a retake.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||03/15/2013|
Barbra has written a number of songs, both before and since "Evergreen". Most of them are better than Evergreen in my opinion. My favorite is on her 1960's french album, "Ma Premier Chanson", which, yes, is the first song she wrote. She and Rupert Holmes are good friends. I doubt very much she snookered him out of credit.
I agree Estelle Parsons is kind of a jerk- doubt very much Barbra ignored her- not like her at all. In fact, Barbra tends to exhaust those she works with because she always has more ideas, wants to reshoot another way etc. She really is a perfectionist and workaholic.
I don't think I have any knowledge of Barbra bad mouthing anyone she has worked with- and for the most part, no one who has (really) worked with her. She was even kind to Larry Kramer in her attempt to set the record straight on the difficulties getting Normal Heart made into a movie. And he is one of the nastiest men I have met in my life (if not an effective activist>)
|by Anonymous||reply 87||03/15/2013|
[quote] I don't think I have any knowledge of Barbra bad mouthing anyone she has worked with
You are not a Barbra fan if you don't know about Walter Matthau
|by Anonymous||reply 88||03/15/2013|
Barbra's just jealous that my husband is successful and can give me nice things.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||03/15/2013|
[quote]For Pete's Sake isn't as breezily funny as Bridesmaids. It is very calculated; like sitcom.
"For Pete's Sake" has some genuine laughs. "Bridesmaids" was a success but virtually laugh free. No one I know liked it at all. Sorry, but if someone shitting in a sink is the highlight of your film, it's not sitcom and it certainly ain't' high art.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||03/15/2013|
r90 doesn't even OWN a TV!
|by Anonymous||reply 91||03/15/2013|
The pastel floral pattern on R90's lampshades matches PERFECTLY the drapes, seven throw-pillows, a dust ruffle over a small table and his belt.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||03/15/2013|
[quote]I know. Who could believe that the woman who made such masterpieces as The Main Event, Up The Sandbox, All Night Long, Little Fockers, and The Guilt Trip would condescend to do a piece of shit like For Pete's Sake?
I like "Up The Sandbox" a lot. The rest of those films are crap, I agree.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||03/15/2013|
"Up the Sandbox" is an ambitious mess. Ambitious, but a mess nonetheless.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||03/15/2013|
I recognize you, charlie - R87, and if you really believe Streisand wrote "Ma Premier Chanson," you're nuttier than I thought. Yeah, she may have written a note or two, but the whole song? LOL.
"She really is a perfectionist and workaholic." AND a micro-manager, and a pain in the ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||03/15/2013|
buy pork bellies
|by Anonymous||reply 96||03/15/2013|
Oy! As a going away present, she gave everyone on the set a chocolate bobka. Mine had a hair in it!
|by Anonymous||reply 97||03/15/2013|
Actually r88 Barbra was asked about Walter in an interview and she said she didn't like talking about him. They must have made up years later he and his wife was amoung the small audience for her concert in her back yard...
|by Anonymous||reply 98||03/16/2013|
Estelle Parsons is more than a jerk, she's an evil cunt who turned vicious after she realized the Curse of the Supporting Actress Oscar was actually a real thing in most cases.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||03/16/2013|
[quote] Why did Barbra make "For Pete's Sake?"
Because the original title, "For Fuck's Sake," didn't make it past the Hays Office.
Also, OP, please put your question mark AFTER your quotation marks when it isn't part of the title being referenced.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||03/16/2013|
I was around 10 when it came out and thought it was hilarious, but then I was 10. Was such a little Streisand Queen. What's Up Doc is still my favorite film shot in SF.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||03/17/2013|
[quote]Also, OP, please put your question mark AFTER your quotation marks when it isn't part of the title being referenced.
Is that true?
|by Anonymous||reply 102||03/17/2013|
Babs did not want to make Funny Lady, she owe whatever motion picture company that owns Funny Lady one more film and that was it!
|by Anonymous||reply 103||03/17/2013|
R10 - Peter Bogdanovich spoke about What's Up Doc the other day. Some quote
""Sometimes you show them what you want. Some actors don't like that," he said. Barbra Streisand was one of them, and she objected to his "line readings" during the filming of "What's Up, Doc?" She got so upset, that her agent called Bogdanovich to complain. She later admitted she had never really been directed on film, so every time he showed her what he wanted, he'd add, "It's directing.""
"He had the most fun in his career making "What's Up, Doc?" and takes some pride in casting Madeline Kahn in her first film. "At the table reading, Barbara didn't get one laugh, but Madeline would just say 'Howard' (in Kahn's voice, of course) and get all the laughs. Barbra didn't like that."
No wonder Babs was miserable!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/17/2013|