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Please stop calling him Francis the First

He is simply Pope Francis until there is a second one.

by Anonymousreply 5403/16/2013

There must be an awful lot of Catholics on DL. This is like the 17th thread on Pope Francis.

by Anonymousreply 103/13/2013

The confusion comes from the last pope to take an unprecedented name, John Paul I, insisted he be called "John Paul I" rather than "John Paul."

The Vatican has said this pope has made no such stipulation, that he is just "Pope Francis."

Even so, to obsess about this as the OP does is the ultimate in prissypants behavior.

None of us owes the Pope any fealty; we will call him exactly what we like. If OP doesn't like it he can go fuck himself.

by Anonymousreply 203/13/2013

My name is Francine Fishpaw, and I am an alcoholic!

by Anonymousreply 303/13/2013

I shall call him Frank.

by Anonymousreply 403/13/2013

He may be number one, but he looks a lot like number two to me.

by Anonymousreply 503/13/2013

Lighten up, Francis!

by Anonymousreply 603/13/2013

A South American pope named Francis.

I'm calling him "Beans & Frank"

by Anonymousreply 703/13/2013

The role Leslie Jordan was born to play.

by Anonymousreply 803/13/2013

You beat me to it, r6.

by Anonymousreply 903/13/2013

Lavender! I shoulda known..

by Anonymousreply 1003/13/2013

Pope Papi

by Anonymousreply 1103/13/2013

Saying he's Hispanic is like saying Leon Trotsky was Hispanic because he lived in Mexico.

by Anonymousreply 1203/13/2013

It's not lavender, it's Bishop's purple. Standardized color.

He's not Hispanic, he's Italian (meaning White Latin European). His parents emigrated to Argentina, so he's 100% Italian. Hispanic by association only.

So after a couple of detours, the Church learned it's lesson and they're back to electing old white Italian men as Pope.

by Anonymousreply 1303/13/2013

Well, this paves the way for a Pope Reese, Pope Malcolm, Pope Dewey and a Pope Jamie.

by Anonymousreply 1403/13/2013

Give him a year and we'll all be calling him Frisco.

by Anonymousreply 1503/13/2013

Whatever anyone calls him - What is the real scoop on this guy? Is he uber conservative like people have feared the new pope would be, or what?

I'm truly flabbergasted that they picked a Latin American, anyway. Yes, it was beyond time, but it's not like the Vatican is exactly known for being hip to the times.

by Anonymousreply 1603/13/2013

His real name is Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

So why not Pope Mario or Pope Jorge?

by Anonymousreply 1703/13/2013

He's not uber-conservative but the Catholic liberals (not an oxymoron) who are creaming right now are in for a rude awakening when they review his history. To be fair, he is a very humble, intelligent man and he has worked very hard to improve the lot of the poor. My hope now, and it's a pipe dream, is that he sells off the Vatican bit by bit.

by Anonymousreply 1803/13/2013

He's not Hispanic, he's Latin American or Latino.

A lot of Argentine people have no Spanish blood, he's not rare.

Argentina took in millions of Italian immigrants in the 19th and 20th Centuries, 60% of the Argentine population has Italian blood.

by Anonymousreply 1903/13/2013

r13, there is a long standing Italian diaspora arm in Argentina.

A second generation Italian-Argentinian is hardly an interloper.

by Anonymousreply 2003/13/2013

[quote]I'm truly flabbergasted that they picked a Latin American, anyway.

There are more Catholics in Latin America than anywhere else on the planet.

by Anonymousreply 2103/13/2013

First Annual Pope Francis.

by Anonymousreply 2203/13/2013

His parents were born in Italy, which makes him a first generation Italian-Argentinian.

But first or second generation, he's still ethnically and genetically a white European Italian. Ethnically and genetically he is not Hispanic, but Latin.

by Anonymousreply 2303/13/2013

r21, I more shocked it was a Jesuit.

Then again, JPII neutered the liberal wing of the SJs years ago, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

I think he was elected because the church knew it needed someone perceived as conciliatory.

People are so fed up with the Pedophile Church that they are becoming more militant. Electing someone similar to Ratzinger in temperament would invite hostile responses.

by Anonymousreply 2403/13/2013

I think we should call him Pope Fanny.

by Anonymousreply 2503/13/2013

Pope Franny would be more accurate.

by Anonymousreply 2603/13/2013

But not as fun, R26.

by Anonymousreply 2703/13/2013

Besides... I was the first!

by Anonymousreply 2803/13/2013

[quote]There are more Catholics in Latin America than anywhere else on the planet.

I know, R21, but that's been true for a long time and it never encouraged them to pick one from there before. I was almost certain they'd be planning on keeping it relegated to the Europeans, as astoundingly resistant to any change whatsoever as they are. Peter Turkson was the only non-European there was any real buzz about, and that had a lot to do with how ultra conservative he is.

They must actually be trying to throw people a bone and say "See? We're kinda evolving, at least at 1/1000th the rate the rest of the world is!"

by Anonymousreply 2903/13/2013

New Pope Franny, he don't like Tranny.

And he sure don't like them queers.

by Anonymousreply 3003/13/2013

Francis, Frances, what's the dif?

by Anonymousreply 3103/13/2013

Francine the Argentine!!!

by Anonymousreply 3203/13/2013

There won't be a second one.

by Anonymousreply 3303/13/2013

Conservative Catholics seem very happy. They're calling him a conservative Jesuit who will reform the order.

by Anonymousreply 3403/13/2013

[quote]Ethnically and genetically he is not Hispanic, but Latin.

God fucking damn it. Every time the subject of Latinos or Hispanics or the Spanish language comes up on DataLounge, the most pig-ignorant posters come out of the woodwork.

"Genetically" Hispanic?!

by Anonymousreply 3503/13/2013

But Francis The Talking Mule has already been taken.

by Anonymousreply 3603/13/2013


by Anonymousreply 3703/13/2013

Funny that the bossy miss prissypants op posted this thread.

I was on Yahoo, and the number one search in the trending section was "Pope One Lung."

So from henceforth, he shall forever be known to me as:


All hail!!

Although I also like whomever posted "Francine the Argentine." I might use that one too.

by Anonymousreply 3803/13/2013

Is the 'c' in Francis pronounced like an 's' or a 'k'?

Is it pronounced Fran-sis or Fran-kis?

by Anonymousreply 3903/13/2013

Actually, the church is losing its numbers in South America and gaining in Africa. Frank's annointment is an attempt to revive SA's dwindling participation.

by Anonymousreply 4003/13/2013

R39, rule of thumb for Latin origin names: if the 'c' is followed by an 'a', 'o', or 'u', then it is pronounced /k/. If the 'c' precedes an 'e' or an 'i', then, depending on language or dialect, it is pronounced /s/, /th/, or /ch/.

by Anonymousreply 4103/13/2013

Why couldn't I live long enough to see this?

by Anonymousreply 4203/13/2013

He's refused to live in the Church's palace in Buenos Aires. He lives in a simple, small apartment and takes the bus to work. Life in Vatican City will be quite a change.

He is good on the Church's calling to work with and serve the poor. He has the usual indefensible positions on gays and women.

It's not clear to me if he had any role in the bad old days of Church collusion with the government in brutality against the people of Argentina.

I dislike the OP's attitude so I think I'll call this new Pope Cornholio the First.

by Anonymousreply 4303/14/2013

I'm loving the Latin:

"urbi et orbi"

"extra omnes"

"habemus papum franciscum"

Any fluent speakers?

by Anonymousreply 4403/14/2013

He cooks his own meals and gave up the limo for public transport. He's much more likeable than Benedict.

by Anonymousreply 4503/14/2013

The definitive test to see whether he's Hispanic (Argentinean) or Italian:

see if he goes for the red gravy or the salsa.

Question answered!

(I'm betting on the red gravy.)

by Anonymousreply 4603/14/2013

"urbi et orbi" - to the city and world

"extra omnes" -- everybody out

"habemus papum franciscum" -- we have a Pope (named)Francis

by Anonymousreply 4703/14/2013

Pope Francy-Pants would be a much more festive name. I hope they consider it.

by Anonymousreply 4803/14/2013

R43 is deliberately failing to note that he used the church's palace in Argentina so the Navy could hide political prisoners there so that international human rights inspectors couldn't see them.

His "humility" is grandstanding bullshit. This is the most vile kind of person there is and when he says he is interested in WEALTH he doesn't mean he is interested in helping the poor, it means he wants to give more power to Opus Dei.

by Anonymousreply 4903/14/2013

I think we should just call him Fran.

by Anonymousreply 5003/14/2013

r49, he's advocated for and worked with the poor. So, on that count, you're wrong. But I am concerned about his politics.

by Anonymousreply 5103/14/2013

I was plain Queen Elizabeth until the second one came along.

by Anonymousreply 5203/14/2013

Anyone else amused that a virulently homomphobic bigot decides to call himself "Francis" and dress up in a dress and bedazzled hat?

by Anonymousreply 5303/14/2013

r52, Bess Tudor

by Anonymousreply 5403/16/2013
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