...after they saw their paychecks cut by 2% on 1/1/13?
How many people have had to cut expenses...
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/08/2013|
My pay was fine, what happened to you?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/07/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/07/2013|
With my FICA having gone up $2000 this year, yes, I've considered cutting expenses. I received my annual bonus today, but I'm saving all of it with the expectation the economy will be getting worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/07/2013|
I got a Target gift card
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/07/2013|
How many noticed the drop in pay?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/10/2013|
I'm constantly amazed at the incredible number of people who didn't understand that this was simply a readjustment of FICA to what it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/10/2013|
Not me; I was promoted and got a 25% raise.
Anything over 10% is pure gravy, baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/10/2013|
Yes, I saw a considerable drop in my salary from the increased taxes. Whether it was a tax readjustment or an increase my take home pay check went down. I cut out going to lunch as often. It was an easy way for me to cut expenses.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||03/10/2013|
Not a big enough difference to make any difference to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/10/2013|
I'm retired. My pension actually went up by over $100/month.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/10/2013|
[quote]I'm constantly amazed at the incredible number of people who didn't understand that this was simply a readjustment of FICA to what it was.
The author of this thread, our resident libertarian/gold nut/anti-Fed/conspiracy nut/PaulDroid, knows this, of course, but he wants to pretend otherwise because he can't defend his economic beliefs on their merits. So he has to pretend that "ZOMG!!! Obama raised taxes!!!" along with confident assertions about how much worse the economy is getting and how hyperinflation and a total economic meltdown is just around the corner, really, any day now.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||03/10/2013|
My pay was cut $60 which was shocking because I make very little money (less than $2000 a month.). I've made adjustments with grocery shopping. Eating a lot of quinoa now. It's cheap, fills you up, is healthy, and a little lasts a long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||03/10/2013|
Nothing drastic - I knew it was coming. Lost about $120 per month. Have just cut back on some things.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||03/10/2013|
I now take home about $80 less a month. It's not really changed my spending habits.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/10/2013|
The people that earn the least were hurt the most. People like the evil freeper at R6 make me sick. This tax increase hurt the poor and defending it is sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||03/10/2013|
It wasn't a tax increase.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/10/2013|
My household is really struggling as a result of it but we're poor.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||03/10/2013|
I've been getting big tax refunds so I lowered my withholding instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||03/10/2013|
When you live on a tight budget like me every bit you take home makes a difference, especially when you have kids. Its easy for politicians to sign off on these types of tax increases because they are really unaffected.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||03/10/2013|
No pay drop here, but with the price of gas going up, I drive less, combining trips, and walking to nearby places where I used to drive.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||03/10/2013|
How many people realize that if we cut our defense budget by 90% and brought home all of our troops, ended the war on drugs (and the prison/prosecution complex dependent on it), stopped giving billions to big corporations and cut the federal government by half that our economy would be better off?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||03/10/2013|
I have, OP. I am was happy to get 67hrs a pay period. Now Im lucky if I get 60hrs. Its not easy finding a job. I come in at one time and then I'm told my time was pushed back because my shift did not start till this time. I work in a clinic where Drs start/stop when ever they please.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||03/10/2013|
jobs are dirt cheap these days
|by Anonymous||reply 23||03/10/2013|
R21, do you realize if we cut the defense budget by 90%, companies like Lookheed Martin, Boeing and other major defense contractors will go out of business. After that, most of their suppliers will go out of business ...
Do you realize the signicance of this negative chain reaction to the whole economy?
Your ass must be jealous of all the shit coming out of your mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||03/10/2013|
[quote] Lookheed Martin
yes, those poor dears will surely STARVE, STARVE on the streets!
Honey, they ain't going NOWHERE, if the defense contracts are up, they'll go into flipping burgers for hipsters in brooklyn, if that's what it takes.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||03/10/2013|
R24, should we have said fuck it to computers b/c the typewriter business went bust? I cant believe you're defending an industry that's existence is to make us distrustful enough of other humans so we can murder them. But you know a job's a job. You need help.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||03/10/2013|
I didn't pay any taxes this year. I have a lot of deductions and such.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||03/10/2013|
Those companies make money from killing innocent people, using money stolen from innocent people. Fuck them.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||03/10/2013|
R24, you're too stoopid
|by Anonymous||reply 29||03/10/2013|
I was on a budget with just $100 of "free" money a month, which was used for anything from a haircut to an occasional latte. I lost it, so now I am dog walking for cash in the evenings and selling my family antiques on EBay.
Yes, I felt it.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||03/10/2013|
[quote]People like the evil freeper at [R6] make me sick.
Telling the truth makes him a "freeper" and makes you "sick?" You must be ill a lot.
[quote]This tax increase hurt the poor and defending it is sick.
This expiration of a cut that was always intended to be temporary ensures that Social Security will remain solvent, which helps the poor. Pretending otherwise is sick.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||03/11/2013|
R31, tell that to R30. Freeper.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||03/11/2013|
R31 is one of the people that makes the webcuntress delete any thread critical of Paul Krugman.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||03/11/2013|
I'm so poor I had to cut my hair!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||03/11/2013|
[quote]tell that to [R30]. Freeper.
ROFLMAO.... Is that really the best you can come up with? That's just sad. And it's revealing that you can't respond to the post but have to instead issue lame insults.
[quote][R31] is one of the people that makes the webcuntress delete any thread critical of Paul Krugman.
ROFL.... Dear heart, you do that to yourself when you spam. Is it really so hard for you to understand? Personally, I'd be happy if your Krugman threads remained because you always demonstrate just how little you know and you always get your ass handed to you.
Tell us again how gold is going to climb 20-fold and that we're going to see a massive economic meltdown and hyperinflation, won't you? We can always use some more good fairy tales.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/12/2013|
More money for Iraqhanistan- they need roads!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/12/2013|
Did anyone else get an insurance notice this week?
It looks like insurance rates are going to go up.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/29/2013|
Nope, it was just you, for being a moron who can't properly select a good insurance company.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/29/2013|
It wasn't me. My neighbor (big Obama supporter) came over to ask me about the changes in his health care plan. He knew I had been warning that it was going to go up, and it had resulted in some frosty exchanges over the last 2 years. He didn't even come to the Halloween party!
His premium (him, wife, 2 kids) went up by 48%. And he's a fucking dentist, so it doesn't include dental!
I sent him some links to explain why it is just going to get even worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/29/2013|
So you deliberately fed him false information and ultimately confused him even more, particularly since the ACA hasn't even been fully implemented yet and any rise in premiums at this time has zilch to do with that. Good job!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/30/2013|
R38. Where have you been hiding that you do not see rates are going up? Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates? What a simple world you must live in. Of course if you only read the "progressive" news you are only going to see exactly what dear leader wants you to see, and you believe it every single time.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/30/2013|
No increase here, either. Also got a raise.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/30/2013|
I got a small raise
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/30/2013|
No impact whatsoever.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/30/2013|
No Ipad either
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/30/2013|
[quote]Where have you been hiding that you do not see rates are going up?
Rates have been going up for years. This is nothing new and it has nothing to do with any topic that our resident libertarian anarchist chum is ranting about.
[quote]Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates?
They will also be taking on younger, healthier customers.
[quote]What a simple world you must live in.
It's called the real world. And out here in the real world, every other major industrialized nation pays less for health care, controls costs better, and has outcomes that are at least as good. The ACA is one step in that direction. And we already have a real-world example: Massachusetts.
[quote]Of course if you only read the "progressive" news you are only going to see exactly what dear leader wants you to see, and you believe it every single time.
If you would like to have a discussion, it would behoove you to read what I write and respond to that rather than making shit up.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/30/2013|
R46 Rate increases are happening across the board. Of course you know that, but want to disparage someone who might not tow your party line. Taking on a healthy 25 year old is not the same as taking on a 45 year old cancer patient is it? How many premiums from a shit plan on a 25 year old would you have to get to balance out the cost of just one cancer patient?
Don't use behoove when referring to yourself btw, you hardly seem worthy. (I'm right about the progressive news though, aren't I? It hit quite the nerve.)
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/30/2013|
[quote]Rate increases are happening across the board.
Sigh.... Which "rate increases" are you referring to? And what are the causes of those rate increases?
[quote]Of course you know that, but want to disparage someone who might not tow your party line.
Nah, just mocking someone who is spouting drivel and is having imaginary conversations.
[quote]Taking on a healthy 25 year old is not the same as taking on a 45 year old cancer patient is it?
And if the ratio were 1:1, you might have a point. It isn't, and you don't. This isn't rocket science.
[quote]How many premiums from a shit plan on a 25 year old would you have to get to balance out the cost of just one cancer patient?
I don't know, since I'm not an actuary. Do you?
[quote]Don't use behoove when referring to yourself
I didn't; I used it when referring to you. Is reading comprehension always this much trouble for you?
[quote](I'm right about the progressive news though, aren't I?
Nope, which is just one of the reasons I'm not taking you seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/30/2013|
No, I just fired some employees.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/30/2013|
You sound poor OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/30/2013|
[quote] Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates?
Yes they can. THey merely need to cut the 500% profit margins down to 250%.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/30/2013|
R51 has it right. Insurance companies are fucking vampires.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/30/2013|
The absurd propaganda...
quote]r3 - With my FICA having gone up $2000 this year, yes, I've considered cutting expenses. I received my annual bonus today, but I'm saving all of it with the expectation the economy will be getting worse.
Really? With the increase in FICA, it suggests you make $100K per year. Your gross monthly is $8333. Even at the highest marginal tax rate in an expensive state like NY, your take home would be roughly $5500. $2000 is roughly $167 per month.
You have to rethink your entire lifestyle for $167 per month? Just how far outside your means do you live?
Sure, if you were like another poster who only had $2000 month, I'd see it. But, the reality of the situation is that people who make more can afford it better.
And yes, I am part of the 1%, but even I recognize that that the fractal inequality (than you Christopher Hayes for the phrase) of the income distribution in the US is bad for everyone but the most wealthy - those in the top .1% or .01% of the distribution.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/30/2013|
R48 I am so sad for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/30/2013|
[quote]I am so sad for you.
ROFL.... Thanks for conceding defeat. Next time, do try to put up more of a fight. I like a challenge.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/30/2013|
I had to take it in the ass a few more times
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/30/2013|
I don't think taking pity on an idiot is conceding defeat. I just learned to stopped arguing with infants when I was an infant,
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/30/2013|
LOL.... Dear heart, if you were able to defend your drivel, you would have done so. If you were able to muster any counter-arguments, you would have done so. You didn't. Q.E.D.
If you actually did have any real knowledge about this topic, you would have discussed rate increases in context, e.g., discussing how they have changed from year to year. Or you would have discussed how things have changed in Massachusetts once RomneyCare took effect. You didn't. Q.E.D.
We have some lovely consolation prizes for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/30/2013|
I'm tired of you. Be gone from this thread. I am, but will giggle thinking about you getting your higher insurance bill provided you aren't already on Medicare.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/30/2013|
[quote]I'm tired of you.
Well, duh, of course you are. I'm calling you on your bullshit and you *really* don't like it.
[quote]Be gone from this thread.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Nice try, though. Next time, try waving your magic wand a little harder.
[quote]I am, but will giggle thinking about you getting your higher insurance bill provided you aren't already on Medicare.
Actually, my insurance is provided through my employer and my premiums are down slightly this year. And out here in the real world, ObamaCare still hasn't taken effect, and won't until 2014. And out here in the real world, under RomneyCare, the Massachusetts rate increases have been a bit less than its neighbors and less than the national average.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/30/2013|
The "Government is God" poster is like herpes. She never goes away.
Despite the fact that most states have released their "health care exchange" rates and they are between 50-70% higher than 2012 she will never admit that Obamacare is a disaster.
Most young, healthy people will forego insurance at $400/mo and pay the penalty at +/-$85/mo. That will drive premiums for older people up to $2k/mo and destroy the system. Why have insurance when you can buy it if you get sick.
Most people will opt for the $300/mo "catastrophic care" option in case of an accident. If they get appendicitis or an acute illness, the CC pays 90%. If they get a chronic illness they can to onto Obamacare.
Socialism never works. It is toxic and Obamacare will prove it. Get the government OUT of healthcare and prices will drop.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/30/2013|
[quote]The "Government is God" poster is like herpes. She never goes away.
Why should I? Your posts are comedy gold. You post some seriously hilarious shit.
[quote]Despite the fact that most states have released their "health care exchange" rates and they are between 50-70% higher than 2012
False, at least when you do an apples-to-apples comparison.
[quote]she will never admit that Obamacare is a disaster.
Since it hasn't taken effect yet, why would I "admit" to something that is manifestly untrue?
[quote]Most young, healthy people will forego insurance at $400/mo and pay the penalty at +/-$85/mo.
False. See Massachusetts as an example.
[quote]Most people will opt for the $300/mo "catastrophic care" option in case of an accident.
Really? And you know this how, exactly?
[quote]Socialism never works.
A non sequitur, if ever there was, since this is manifestly nothing like socialism.
[quote]It is toxic and Obamacare will prove it. Get the government OUT of healthcare and prices will drop.
Total bullshit. Medicare is cheaper than the private alternatives, controls costs better than the private alternatives, is more popular than the private alternatives, and has better outcomes than the private alternatives. The same is true of the VA system. And the same is true of every other major industrialized nation, all of which pay far less and get far more than we do.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/01/2013|
Oh. R62, I love that your posts are so moronic that I barely need to respond.
Most posters on this site know their insurance premiums are going up while benefits are going down.
That is the essence socialist policy.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/01/2013|
[quote]I love that your posts are so moronic that I barely need to respond.
Oh, R63, I love how you are wholly unable to respond to the points raised in my posts, particularly the discussion of Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system, and every other major industrialized nation. Dear heart, alas, you're not fooling anyone.
[quote]Most posters on this site know their insurance premiums are going up while benefits are going down.
Since I never claimed otherwise, dear, I'm not sure what point you think you're making. Perhaps you could try to actually read and comprehend what I write? Is that really too much to ask, dear? Alas, I fear so, since you've never been able to before.
[quote]That is the essence socialist policy.
ROFL.... Dear heart, you wouldn't know "socialist policy" if it bit you in the ass, and you're still unable to address the very basic fact that those so-called "socialist policies" have done a *better* job of controlling costs than the private market. Oh, well... maybe one day you'll join us out here in the real world.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/01/2013|
R64, you are tiring. Perhaps I should say "Taxing" because that's your favorite word!
As inflation goes even higher, and bonds collapse, and TSHTF...well, I pray for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/03/2013|
"Most posters on this site know their insurance premiums are going up while benefits are going down.
"Since I never claimed otherwise, dear, I'm not sure what point you think you're making. Perhaps you could try to actually read and comprehend what I write? Is that really too much to ask, dear? Alas, I fear so, since you've never been able to before."
Please elaborate on why you think Obamacare is a good idea?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/03/2013|
[quote]you are tiring.
Only because I call you on your bullshit, dear, and you *really* don't like that. Now if you actually knew what you were talking about and had rational cogent arguments to make... but, alas, that will never happen.
[quote]Perhaps I should say "Taxing" because that's your favorite word!
No, dear, it's not. Is reading comprehension always this much trouble for you?
[quote]As inflation goes even higher, and bonds collapse, and TSHTF...well, I pray for you.
ROFL.... Dear heart, you've been predicting these events for years. Your hero, Ron Paul, has been predicting them for decades. They aren't going to happen, dear. Get used to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/04/2013|
OP = 9/11 truther.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/04/2013|
Do you believe the 9/11 commission report is 100% accurate?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/06/2013|
R61 etc is so full of shit it must be coming out of hs ears.
I love how he never once addresses the points that others make. Of course, he can't, he can only lie like all libertarians do, but it would be fun to see him make a stab at it.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/06/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/06/2013|
If I'm so full of shit, why did the government delay implementation of Obamacare until Jan2015?
One question, and I doubt you can answer.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/06/2013|
[quote] If I'm so full of shit, why did the government delay implementation of Obamacare until Jan2015?
I'm not R70, but they didn't delay implementation of "Obamacare" until 2015. They delayed implementation of the employer mandate --he requirement that all firms with 50 or more employees offer health coverage, or pay steep fines--until then.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/06/2013|
Dahling! Cut expenses? It is so much more easier to just fire the maid the day before she's to be paid and get a new phone number!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||07/06/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||07/06/2013|
Even more important, why delay if such a wonderful socialistic program is going to help people?
Is it because major companies have started to look for "loopholes" (aka making former full-time employees part-time, creating multiple independent businesses that do not fall under the mandate, etc.) and the government has discovered that "half socialist/half free market" systems drive ALL the free market competitors?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||07/06/2013|
That makes no sense. If the program is a net benefit why delay???
|by Anonymous||reply 77||07/06/2013|
I've had to switch from Merlot back to Chardonnay----and that is so 80s it terrifies me.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||07/08/2013|