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How many people have had to cut expenses...

...after they saw their paychecks cut by 2% on 1/1/13?

by Anonymousreply 7807/08/2013

My pay was fine, what happened to you?

by Anonymousreply 103/08/2013

Nothing

by Anonymousreply 203/08/2013

With my FICA having gone up $2000 this year, yes, I've considered cutting expenses. I received my annual bonus today, but I'm saving all of it with the expectation the economy will be getting worse.

by Anonymousreply 303/08/2013

I got a Target gift card

by Anonymousreply 403/08/2013

How many noticed the drop in pay?

by Anonymousreply 503/10/2013

I'm constantly amazed at the incredible number of people who didn't understand that this was simply a readjustment of FICA to what it was.

by Anonymousreply 603/10/2013

Not me; I was promoted and got a 25% raise.

Anything over 10% is pure gravy, baby.

by Anonymousreply 703/10/2013

Yes, I saw a considerable drop in my salary from the increased taxes. Whether it was a tax readjustment or an increase my take home pay check went down. I cut out going to lunch as often. It was an easy way for me to cut expenses.

by Anonymousreply 803/10/2013

Not a big enough difference to make any difference to me.

by Anonymousreply 903/10/2013

I'm retired. My pension actually went up by over $100/month.

by Anonymousreply 1003/10/2013

[quote]I'm constantly amazed at the incredible number of people who didn't understand that this was simply a readjustment of FICA to what it was.

The author of this thread, our resident libertarian/gold nut/anti-Fed/conspiracy nut/PaulDroid, knows this, of course, but he wants to pretend otherwise because he can't defend his economic beliefs on their merits. So he has to pretend that "ZOMG!!! Obama raised taxes!!!" along with confident assertions about how much worse the economy is getting and how hyperinflation and a total economic meltdown is just around the corner, really, any day now.

by Anonymousreply 1103/10/2013

My pay was cut $60 which was shocking because I make very little money (less than $2000 a month.). I've made adjustments with grocery shopping. Eating a lot of quinoa now. It's cheap, fills you up, is healthy, and a little lasts a long time.

by Anonymousreply 1203/10/2013

Nothing drastic - I knew it was coming. Lost about $120 per month. Have just cut back on some things.

by Anonymousreply 1303/10/2013

I now take home about $80 less a month. It's not really changed my spending habits.

by Anonymousreply 1403/10/2013

R12-

The people that earn the least were hurt the most. People like the evil freeper at R6 make me sick. This tax increase hurt the poor and defending it is sick.

by Anonymousreply 1503/10/2013

It wasn't a tax increase.

by Anonymousreply 1603/10/2013

My household is really struggling as a result of it but we're poor.

by Anonymousreply 1703/10/2013

I've been getting big tax refunds so I lowered my withholding instead.

by Anonymousreply 1803/10/2013

When you live on a tight budget like me every bit you take home makes a difference, especially when you have kids. Its easy for politicians to sign off on these types of tax increases because they are really unaffected.

by Anonymousreply 1903/11/2013

No pay drop here, but with the price of gas going up, I drive less, combining trips, and walking to nearby places where I used to drive.

by Anonymousreply 2003/11/2013

How many people realize that if we cut our defense budget by 90% and brought home all of our troops, ended the war on drugs (and the prison/prosecution complex dependent on it), stopped giving billions to big corporations and cut the federal government by half that our economy would be better off?

by Anonymousreply 2103/11/2013

I have, OP. I am was happy to get 67hrs a pay period. Now Im lucky if I get 60hrs. Its not easy finding a job. I come in at one time and then I'm told my time was pushed back because my shift did not start till this time. I work in a clinic where Drs start/stop when ever they please.

by Anonymousreply 2203/11/2013

jobs are dirt cheap these days

by Anonymousreply 2303/11/2013

R21, do you realize if we cut the defense budget by 90%, companies like Lookheed Martin, Boeing and other major defense contractors will go out of business. After that, most of their suppliers will go out of business ...

Do you realize the signicance of this negative chain reaction to the whole economy?

Your ass must be jealous of all the shit coming out of your mouth.

by Anonymousreply 2403/11/2013

[quote] Lookheed Martin

oh, dear!

yes, those poor dears will surely STARVE, STARVE on the streets!

Honey, they ain't going NOWHERE, if the defense contracts are up, they'll go into flipping burgers for hipsters in brooklyn, if that's what it takes.

by Anonymousreply 2503/11/2013

R24, should we have said fuck it to computers b/c the typewriter business went bust? I cant believe you're defending an industry that's existence is to make us distrustful enough of other humans so we can murder them. But you know a job's a job. You need help.

by Anonymousreply 2603/11/2013

I didn't pay any taxes this year. I have a lot of deductions and such.

by Anonymousreply 2703/11/2013

R24-

Those companies make money from killing innocent people, using money stolen from innocent people. Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 2803/11/2013

R24, you're too stoopid

by Anonymousreply 2903/11/2013

I was on a budget with just $100 of "free" money a month, which was used for anything from a haircut to an occasional latte. I lost it, so now I am dog walking for cash in the evenings and selling my family antiques on EBay.

Yes, I felt it.

by Anonymousreply 3003/11/2013

[quote]People like the evil freeper at [R6] make me sick.

Telling the truth makes him a "freeper" and makes you "sick?" You must be ill a lot.

[quote]This tax increase hurt the poor and defending it is sick.

This expiration of a cut that was always intended to be temporary ensures that Social Security will remain solvent, which helps the poor. Pretending otherwise is sick.

by Anonymousreply 3103/11/2013

R31, tell that to R30. Freeper.

by Anonymousreply 3203/11/2013

R31 is one of the people that makes the webcuntress delete any thread critical of Paul Krugman.

by Anonymousreply 3303/12/2013

I'm so poor I had to cut my hair!

by Anonymousreply 3403/12/2013

[quote]tell that to [R30]. Freeper.

ROFLMAO.... Is that really the best you can come up with? That's just sad. And it's revealing that you can't respond to the post but have to instead issue lame insults.

[quote][R31] is one of the people that makes the webcuntress delete any thread critical of Paul Krugman.

ROFL.... Dear heart, you do that to yourself when you spam. Is it really so hard for you to understand? Personally, I'd be happy if your Krugman threads remained because you always demonstrate just how little you know and you always get your ass handed to you.

Tell us again how gold is going to climb 20-fold and that we're going to see a massive economic meltdown and hyperinflation, won't you? We can always use some more good fairy tales.

by Anonymousreply 3503/12/2013

More money for Iraqhanistan- they need roads!

by Anonymousreply 3603/12/2013

Did anyone else get an insurance notice this week?

It looks like insurance rates are going to go up.

by Anonymousreply 3706/29/2013

Nope, it was just you, for being a moron who can't properly select a good insurance company.

by Anonymousreply 3806/29/2013

So you deliberately fed him false information and ultimately confused him even more, particularly since the ACA hasn't even been fully implemented yet and any rise in premiums at this time has zilch to do with that. Good job!

by Anonymousreply 4006/30/2013

R38. Where have you been hiding that you do not see rates are going up? Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates? What a simple world you must live in. Of course if you only read the "progressive" news you are only going to see exactly what dear leader wants you to see, and you believe it every single time.

by Anonymousreply 4106/30/2013

No increase here, either. Also got a raise.

by Anonymousreply 4206/30/2013

I got a small raise

by Anonymousreply 4306/30/2013

No impact whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 4406/30/2013

No Ipad either

by Anonymousreply 4506/30/2013

[quote]Where have you been hiding that you do not see rates are going up?

Rates have been going up for years. This is nothing new and it has nothing to do with any topic that our resident libertarian anarchist chum is ranting about.

[quote]Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates?

They will also be taking on younger, healthier customers.

[quote]What a simple world you must live in.

It's called the real world. And out here in the real world, every other major industrialized nation pays less for health care, controls costs better, and has outcomes that are at least as good. The ACA is one step in that direction. And we already have a real-world example: Massachusetts.

[quote]Of course if you only read the "progressive" news you are only going to see exactly what dear leader wants you to see, and you believe it every single time.

If you would like to have a discussion, it would behoove you to read what I write and respond to that rather than making shit up.

by Anonymousreply 4606/30/2013

R46 Rate increases are happening across the board. Of course you know that, but want to disparage someone who might not tow your party line. Taking on a healthy 25 year old is not the same as taking on a 45 year old cancer patient is it? How many premiums from a shit plan on a 25 year old would you have to get to balance out the cost of just one cancer patient?

Don't use behoove when referring to yourself btw, you hardly seem worthy. (I'm right about the progressive news though, aren't I? It hit quite the nerve.)

by Anonymousreply 4706/30/2013

[quote]Rate increases are happening across the board.

Sigh.... Which "rate increases" are you referring to? And what are the causes of those rate increases?

[quote]Of course you know that, but want to disparage someone who might not tow your party line.

Nah, just mocking someone who is spouting drivel and is having imaginary conversations.

[quote]Taking on a healthy 25 year old is not the same as taking on a 45 year old cancer patient is it?

And if the ratio were 1:1, you might have a point. It isn't, and you don't. This isn't rocket science.

[quote]How many premiums from a shit plan on a 25 year old would you have to get to balance out the cost of just one cancer patient?

I don't know, since I'm not an actuary. Do you?

[quote]Don't use behoove when referring to yourself

I didn't; I used it when referring to you. Is reading comprehension always this much trouble for you?

[quote](I'm right about the progressive news though, aren't I?

Nope, which is just one of the reasons I'm not taking you seriously.

by Anonymousreply 4806/30/2013

No, I just fired some employees.

by Anonymousreply 4906/30/2013

You sound poor OP.

by Anonymousreply 5006/30/2013

[quote] Insurance companies are going to be required to take on riskier customers and you think they can do that with the current rates?

Yes they can. THey merely need to cut the 500% profit margins down to 250%.

by Anonymousreply 5106/30/2013

R51 has it right. Insurance companies are fucking vampires.

by Anonymousreply 5206/30/2013

The absurd propaganda...

quote]r3 - With my FICA having gone up $2000 this year, yes, I've considered cutting expenses. I received my annual bonus today, but I'm saving all of it with the expectation the economy will be getting worse.

Really? With the increase in FICA, it suggests you make $100K per year. Your gross monthly is $8333. Even at the highest marginal tax rate in an expensive state like NY, your take home would be roughly $5500. $2000 is roughly $167 per month.

You have to rethink your entire lifestyle for $167 per month? Just how far outside your means do you live?

Sure, if you were like another poster who only had $2000 month, I'd see it. But, the reality of the situation is that people who make more can afford it better.

And yes, I am part of the 1%, but even I recognize that that the fractal inequality (than you Christopher Hayes for the phrase) of the income distribution in the US is bad for everyone but the most wealthy - those in the top .1% or .01% of the distribution.

by Anonymousreply 5306/30/2013

R48 I am so sad for you.

by Anonymousreply 5406/30/2013

[quote]I am so sad for you.

ROFL.... Thanks for conceding defeat. Next time, do try to put up more of a fight. I like a challenge.

by Anonymousreply 5506/30/2013

I had to take it in the ass a few more times

by Anonymousreply 5606/30/2013

I don't think taking pity on an idiot is conceding defeat. I just learned to stopped arguing with infants when I was an infant,

by Anonymousreply 5706/30/2013

I'm tired of you. Be gone from this thread. I am, but will giggle thinking about you getting your higher insurance bill provided you aren't already on Medicare.

by Anonymousreply 5906/30/2013

[quote]I'm tired of you.

Well, duh, of course you are. I'm calling you on your bullshit and you *really* don't like it.

[quote]Be gone from this thread.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Nice try, though. Next time, try waving your magic wand a little harder.

[quote]I am, but will giggle thinking about you getting your higher insurance bill provided you aren't already on Medicare.

Actually, my insurance is provided through my employer and my premiums are down slightly this year. And out here in the real world, ObamaCare still hasn't taken effect, and won't until 2014. And out here in the real world, under RomneyCare, the Massachusetts rate increases have been a bit less than its neighbors and less than the national average.

Next?

by Anonymousreply 6006/30/2013

[quote]The "Government is God" poster is like herpes. She never goes away.

Why should I? Your posts are comedy gold. You post some seriously hilarious shit.

[quote]Despite the fact that most states have released their "health care exchange" rates and they are between 50-70% higher than 2012

False, at least when you do an apples-to-apples comparison.

[quote]she will never admit that Obamacare is a disaster.

Since it hasn't taken effect yet, why would I "admit" to something that is manifestly untrue?

[quote]Most young, healthy people will forego insurance at $400/mo and pay the penalty at +/-$85/mo.

False. See Massachusetts as an example.

[quote]Most people will opt for the $300/mo "catastrophic care" option in case of an accident.

Really? And you know this how, exactly?

[quote]Socialism never works.

A non sequitur, if ever there was, since this is manifestly nothing like socialism.

[quote]It is toxic and Obamacare will prove it. Get the government OUT of healthcare and prices will drop.

Total bullshit. Medicare is cheaper than the private alternatives, controls costs better than the private alternatives, is more popular than the private alternatives, and has better outcomes than the private alternatives. The same is true of the VA system. And the same is true of every other major industrialized nation, all of which pay far less and get far more than we do.

by Anonymousreply 6207/01/2013

[quote]I love that your posts are so moronic that I barely need to respond.

Oh, R63, I love how you are wholly unable to respond to the points raised in my posts, particularly the discussion of Medicare, Medicaid, the VA system, and every other major industrialized nation. Dear heart, alas, you're not fooling anyone.

[quote]Most posters on this site know their insurance premiums are going up while benefits are going down.

Since I never claimed otherwise, dear, I'm not sure what point you think you're making. Perhaps you could try to actually read and comprehend what I write? Is that really too much to ask, dear? Alas, I fear so, since you've never been able to before.

[quote]That is the essence socialist policy.

ROFL.... Dear heart, you wouldn't know "socialist policy" if it bit you in the ass, and you're still unable to address the very basic fact that those so-called "socialist policies" have done a *better* job of controlling costs than the private market. Oh, well... maybe one day you'll join us out here in the real world.

by Anonymousreply 6407/01/2013

R64, you are tiring. Perhaps I should say "Taxing" because that's your favorite word!

As inflation goes even higher, and bonds collapse, and TSHTF...well, I pray for you.

by Anonymousreply 6507/03/2013

"Most posters on this site know their insurance premiums are going up while benefits are going down.

xxxxxx

"Since I never claimed otherwise, dear, I'm not sure what point you think you're making. Perhaps you could try to actually read and comprehend what I write? Is that really too much to ask, dear? Alas, I fear so, since you've never been able to before."

----

Please elaborate on why you think Obamacare is a good idea?

by Anonymousreply 6607/03/2013

[quote]you are tiring.

Only because I call you on your bullshit, dear, and you *really* don't like that. Now if you actually knew what you were talking about and had rational cogent arguments to make... but, alas, that will never happen.

[quote]Perhaps I should say "Taxing" because that's your favorite word!

No, dear, it's not. Is reading comprehension always this much trouble for you?

[quote]As inflation goes even higher, and bonds collapse, and TSHTF...well, I pray for you.

ROFL.... Dear heart, you've been predicting these events for years. Your hero, Ron Paul, has been predicting them for decades. They aren't going to happen, dear. Get used to it.

by Anonymousreply 6707/04/2013

OP = 9/11 truther.

by Anonymousreply 6807/04/2013

R68-

Do you believe the 9/11 commission report is 100% accurate?

by Anonymousreply 6907/06/2013

R61 etc is so full of shit it must be coming out of hs ears.

I love how he never once addresses the points that others make. Of course, he can't, he can only lie like all libertarians do, but it would be fun to see him make a stab at it.

by Anonymousreply 7007/06/2013

I haven't

by Anonymousreply 7107/06/2013

R70

If I'm so full of shit, why did the government delay implementation of Obamacare until Jan2015?

One question, and I doubt you can answer.

by Anonymousreply 7207/06/2013

[quote] If I'm so full of shit, why did the government delay implementation of Obamacare until Jan2015?

I'm not R70, but they didn't delay implementation of "Obamacare" until 2015. They delayed implementation of the employer mandate --he requirement that all firms with 50 or more employees offer health coverage, or pay steep fines--until then.

by Anonymousreply 7307/06/2013

Dahling! Cut expenses? It is so much more easier to just fire the maid the day before she's to be paid and get a new phone number!

by Anonymousreply 7407/06/2013

Why, R73?

by Anonymousreply 7507/06/2013

Even more important, why delay if such a wonderful socialistic program is going to help people?

Is it because major companies have started to look for "loopholes" (aka making former full-time employees part-time, creating multiple independent businesses that do not fall under the mandate, etc.) and the government has discovered that "half socialist/half free market" systems drive ALL the free market competitors?

by Anonymousreply 7607/06/2013

R73-

That makes no sense. If the program is a net benefit why delay???

by Anonymousreply 7707/06/2013

I've had to switch from Merlot back to Chardonnay----and that is so 80s it terrifies me.

by Anonymousreply 7807/08/2013
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