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AFA Director Bryan Fischer Calls Atheists ‘American Taliban’

So, if we want religion – any religion, mind you, not just his – to get out of politics, to not have any influence over laws, that makes us religious fundamentalists? Folks, that right there is some insane troll logic. And using the term “American Taliban” to describe secularists is just crazy. Especially since the actual definition of American Taliban is:

“… [v]ocal, well-financed, extreme fundamentalist Christians attempting to legislate the oppression of homosexuals, women and science at the expense of our national schools, national health and U.S. Constitution.”

And the Internet world isn’t the only place where that term means something other than what Fischer thinks it means. In 2010, Markos Moutlitsas, the founder of the liberal website Daily Kos, wrote a book about how much the radical right is like the radical Muslim group:

“America’s primary international enemy—Islamic radicalism—insists on government by theocracy, curtails civil liberties, embraces torture, represses women, wants to eradicate homosexuals from society, and insists on the use of force over diplomacy. Remind you of a certain American political party?”

No, Mr. Fischer, atheists, liberals, secularists, the ACLU… none of us want to replace the laws of the United States with a religious agenda. That’s your gig. We are here to prevent that. We are here to give voice to anyone who doesn’t want to have the Christian Fundamentalists and Dominionists dictate U.S. laws. That paper you pretend to like – the Constitution – is there to back us up. So you can take your self-righteous bullshit and keep it in your churches. It is not the American way to put a religion in charge. Don’t like that? Maybe you should join your brethren in the Middle East because, except for small doctrinal differences, you guys are all the same.

by Anonymousreply 1810/16/2013


by Anonymousreply 103/06/2013

Pot. Kettle. Black.

AFA is the American Family Association, one of the many fundie right-wing organizations out there.

by Anonymousreply 203/06/2013

I refuse to associate with Christians.Jewis and Muslims can be OK. But atheists and humanists are where it's at.

by Anonymousreply 303/06/2013

Well, color me shocked that a right wing extremist made an extreme right wing statement.

by Anonymousreply 403/06/2013

As usual, another right-winger gets it EXACTLY BACKWARDS, accusing others of what is actually true of himself.

This strange mental illness right-wingers suffer from, this "pathological projection", really needs some study. Perhaps there's a medication that can help cure them of this malady.

by Anonymousreply 503/06/2013

R1, you read DataLounge and you don't know what the notorious AFA is? Seriously? One of the most virulently anti-gay organizations in the country, always in the news, and you have no idea?

Be honest: you're not really gay and don't give a damn about gay rights, do you?

by Anonymousreply 603/06/2013

R5, It isn't a mental illness. It is a strategy. A very successful strategy. The idea is to define the dialogue before the other side does. The right has been very good a doing this; while the left has been basically reactive.

by Anonymousreply 703/06/2013

Well R5 we've all noticed and talked about their self-projection. Classic conservatard tactic.

by Anonymousreply 803/06/2013

R7, it's so wide-spread and so consistent... not just among politicians and pundits, but right down to the rank-and-file voter... that it really does seem to be a conservative-associated mental illness. I doubt most of the people engaging in it are at all aware enough (let alone self-aware enough) to engage in this as a "strategy".

by Anonymousreply 903/06/2013

R9, Have you watched Fox News? I was stuck at my parents house for three months with Fox News on 24/7. It really is brainwashing. They repeat the talking points over and over so the person watching does not have to think about it anymore. It is impressed into their minds. Now, you might call that a mental illness on the part of the viewer, but it certainly is a strategy of the people who make the decisions.

by Anonymousreply 1003/06/2013

I've never hear of the organization or the idiot leading it. Why are we giving this loon time and space?

by Anonymousreply 1103/06/2013

Just because you haven't been paying attention, doesn't mean the AFA isn't doing any damage. The SPLC tracks the AFA.

by Anonymousreply 1203/06/2013

Nope. Never heard of the AFA.

I can't keep up with every right wing looney tuner in the US. There are so many...

by Anonymousreply 1303/06/2013

Bryan Fischer is one of the most evil men in the world.

And R13, AFA is mentioned here constantly, and is in the news far too often.

by Anonymousreply 1403/11/2013

Just bumping evidence of how loving Christians are towards atheists...

by Anonymousreply 1504/16/2013

US Army officially names AFA as a hate group! Sorry to link to their site, but I love it!

U.S. Army officially labels your AFA as domestic hate group October 15, 2013

As reported by Fox News' Todd Starnes, AFA was listed alongside domestic hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam during a military training session at Camp Shelby in Mississippi last week.

Watch this great video interview with Todd, AFA president Tim Wildmon and AFR's Bryan Fischer, detailing the story. Pictured at right (click to enlarge) is a photo taken by a soldier who attended the training. Under the AFA headline is a photograph of Westboro Baptist Church preacher Fred Phelps holding a sign reading "No special law for f***."

Let me be very clear. Your AFA does not condone the actions of Phelps and his followers, nor have we ever advocated hatred towards anyone, even those we don’t agree with.

The soldier said he was "completely taken back by this blatant attack not only on the AFA but Christians and our beliefs." The soldier said a chaplain interrupted the training and repeatedly challenged the instructor's assertion that AFA is a hate group, but the instructor refused to back down.

Later in the briefing, the soldiers were reportedly told that they could face punishment for participating in organizations that are considered hate groups.

The American Family Association has received numerous accounts of military installations using a list compiled by the Southern Poverty Law Center which wrongfully identifies and defames AFA.

This mischaracterization of AFA is reprehensible and inexcusable. AFA has many military members who support our ministry and know these accusations are false and misleading.

by Anonymousreply 1610/15/2013

Since when did Markos Moutlitsas become such a racist,Islamophobic,anti-Muslim bigot?

by Anonymousreply 1710/16/2013

Of course the AFA would denounce atheists! We are on to the destructive religious agenda.

by Anonymousreply 1810/16/2013
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