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Lie v. Lay

Will the grammar troll give us a comprehensive review?

by Anonymousreply 2605/14/2013

"Lie" is for people and animals.

"Lay" is for objects.

by Anonymousreply 102/27/2013

"To lie" is an intransitive verb meaning to be in a horizontal position. I'm lying on the couch.

"To lay" is a transitive verb meaning to put (something) in a place. I'm laying the money onto the counter.

Confusion arises because "lay" is also the past tense form of "to lie". I lay (= was lying) on the couch.

It's also the subjunctive form of "to lie", used in English as the protasis in a conditional sentence. If I lay here.. would you lie with me?

by Anonymousreply 202/27/2013

VotN is joking, OP.

by Anonymousreply 302/27/2013

You lie down. (intransitive)

You lay a baby down. (transitive)

by Anonymousreply 402/27/2013

I always get this right, but I don't know how to explain it.

by Anonymousreply 502/27/2013

My straight married FB told a lie to his wife last night in order to come to my place for a mind-blowing lay.

by Anonymousreply 602/27/2013

Grammar queens:

discrete and discreet

sensual and sensuous

Hurry,I wanna make a CL post.

by Anonymousreply 702/27/2013

discrete = "separate"

discreet = "can keep a secret"

by Anonymousreply 802/27/2013

Ignore the usually accurate (but not here) VOTN, who may or may not be kidding. Since, obviously, people get laid all the time.

R2 has it.

by Anonymousreply 902/27/2013

Jesus, you idiots. Lie is present tense, i.e. I need to lie down after reading these posts. Lay is past tense, i.e., yesterday in the warm sunshine, I lay outside in my chaise.

by Anonymousreply 1002/27/2013

Ken Lay Lied, and then he Died only to LIVE another Day.

by Anonymousreply 1102/27/2013

R10, you're half right, but there is a verb "to lay" that is etymologically unrelated to the "lay" that is the preterite of "to lie." That's why lots of native English speakers get confused.

Don't make me "Oh, dear" you, but your calling us idiots makes me very tempted.

by Anonymousreply 1202/27/2013

[quote]etymologically unrelated

Well, except going way back to the Proto-Indo-European stage.

by Anonymousreply 1302/27/2013

"Now I lay me down to sleep"

This is grammatically indefensible, is it not?

by Anonymousreply 1403/01/2013

Lay Lady Lay

by Anonymousreply 1503/01/2013

[quote]"Now I lay me down to sleep"

[quote]This is grammatically indefensible, is it not?

No, it's correct because it's transitive. (Or reflexive, if you want to get technical.)

In modern English we wouldn't use an object at all, so the intransitive "lie" or "lie down" would be more idiomatic today.

by Anonymousreply 1603/01/2013

Like a bridge over troubled water I will lay me down

by Anonymousreply 1703/01/2013

It's Friday night. The grammar troll is busy getting drunk and laid.


I don't know, because the grammar troll isn't here to elaborate.

by Anonymousreply 1803/01/2013

I have lain with men and I liked it. I liked it.

by Anonymousreply 1903/01/2013

Good god! I'm even more confused now. I'm going to avoid using the terms all together!

by Anonymousreply 2003/01/2013

I lived as both.

by Anonymousreply 2103/01/2013

Republicans lie.

Democrats get laid.

by Anonymousreply 2203/01/2013

Don't forget about chickens -- the ones I know each lay an egg every morning. And this is the season for birds of all kinds to build nests & lay a clutch of several eggs -- looking forward to ducklings in about a month!

by Anonymousreply 2303/01/2013

My hair is LAYED huntyy!

by Anonymousreply 2403/02/2013

"Would you Lay me Down in a Field of Stone, and I will Lie with you Forever."

If it is wrong it should not be. Let's have some fun with words. I ask my friends to correct my grammar though I have a high degree of a certain education. I take all corrections with the best Italian grace, but I speak in the tongue of song and passion.

I do like to know what is correct just in case I am laying a liar.

Some of us still fuck...please advise.

by Anonymousreply 2505/14/2013

If you were laying, there would be eggs.

by Anonymousreply 2605/14/2013
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