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Who was the lowest in the concentration camps?

The gays or the gypsies?

by Anonymousreply 2902/19/2013

touchy touchy r2...aren't we? It is a serious question. the jews looked down on the gays...

by Anonymousreply 302/19/2013

The gypsies. The Nazis managed to wipe out 100% of the gypsy population in Croatia.

by Anonymousreply 402/19/2013

Are they back again with the EU? If not, soooooooon!

by Anonymousreply 502/19/2013

We certainly aren't the lowest of anything, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 602/19/2013

Gay gypsies.

by Anonymousreply 702/19/2013

Ethel Merman.

by Anonymousreply 802/19/2013

The Nazis were the lowest, duh.

by Anonymousreply 902/19/2013

The Kardashians.

by Anonymousreply 1102/19/2013

Have you been to Eastern Europe lately? They still hate Jews, Gypsies and Gays over there.

by Anonymousreply 1202/19/2013

Gays for sure. They were give the worst jobs in the camps. The hardest and most physical jobs. Other camp prisoners also discriminated against Gays in camps.

by Anonymousreply 1302/19/2013

The gays weren't necessarily freed after the camps were liberated either, they were imprisoned for a criminal offense which was still on the books. They went to jail or mental hospitals after liberation, in some cases.

by Anonymousreply 1402/19/2013

Elie Wiesel is going to beat your ass, OP.

by Anonymousreply 1502/19/2013

R14 as were any prisoners that had been convicted of a crime, pickpockets, thieves, etc. Homosexuality was a crime in Germany, same as it was in England, Soviet Union, and the USA. The allies saw the homosexuals as criminals that needed to complete their sentence just like any other criminal.

by Anonymousreply 1602/19/2013

The problem with your stance, R13, is that more gays survived, percentage-wise, than Jews or Roma.

by Anonymousreply 1702/19/2013

Another Jewish thread? Don't you have your own forums?

by Anonymousreply 1802/19/2013

The problem with this thread is that it's utterly pointless. The concentration camps were about as horrific as they could possibly be for EVERYONE interned in them. What the fuck is the point of trying to determine the difference in status among three groups who all faced extermination from a regime that wanted to erase their very existence?

by Anonymousreply 1902/19/2013

Because I'm studying how victimized groups look for someone else to victimize.

by Anonymousreply 2002/19/2013

Interesting r14. I didn't know they were sent back into jail. I thought everyone was liberated completely.

by Anonymousreply 2102/19/2013

That, to put it kindly, isn't factual, R17.

by Anonymousreply 2202/19/2013

Gay Jews.

by Anonymousreply 2302/19/2013

The tramps.

by Anonymousreply 2402/19/2013

R17's post is essentially accurate. It was possible to survive in concentration camps such as Dachau. Most Jews, though, were sent sooner or later to death camps like Treblinka or the Birkenau section of Auschwitz, where the average survival time after arrival was about 2 hours. Not really enough time to fight over relative status.

by Anonymousreply 2502/19/2013

R20, have you looked at the overall history of the Nazis? Their rise played heavily on the victimization of Germany, first by those who they claimed stabbed them in the back (Jewish Bolsheviks), causing them to lose WWI, then by the victors' imposition of radical terms in the peace agreement. They even pulled out real anti-German propaganda from WWI to bolster their claim that everyone was against them.

That's why Hitler made the French surrender at Compiègne - in the same place and even the same railroad car where the WWI armistice was signed.

by Anonymousreply 2602/19/2013

There were only six 'extermination' camps, all on Polish soil, with Auschwitz having the highest number of exterminations. The rest were labor, transit, or detainment camps. Even Auschwitz was originally a labor and detainment camp and only converted to an 'extermination' camp later in the war. Most of the gas chamber deaths there occurred after the Nazis started transiting Jews en masse while being pushed back by the Russians.

by Anonymousreply 2702/19/2013

Howdya like them eggrolls, Mr. Goebbels?

by Anonymousreply 2802/19/2013

Goebbels: PhD from University of Heidelberg with a dissertation about an early 19th century German playwright/author

i.e. Goebbels = drama whore

you think he'd be a DL favorite

by Anonymousreply 2902/19/2013
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