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Were you a 'clone' in the 1970s?

I was a youngster then and found 'the look' very alarming and mostly not at all attractive.

It seemed to fade away, to a large degree, when aids arrived and a lot of gays didn't want to be so easily identifiable.

I apologize for asking the question and then being negative about it. Maybe you loved looking like that and can shine a different light on it for me.

by Anonymousreply 5502/04/2014

Those weren't clones, stupid, but leathermen.

by Anonymousreply 102/17/2013

Real life clones

by Anonymousreply 202/17/2013

Hated the clone look. Total turnoff. All those bushy moustaches. Fuck you Mark Spitz. My husband and myself would walk into a bar in those days and would not be attracted to one person. Probably saved our lives. The Castro was wall to wall clones.

by Anonymousreply 302/17/2013

That was the look for the leather crowd, still is to an extent. Op, you're a bit dim, no?

by Anonymousreply 402/17/2013

At the risk of sounding stupid, what's a clone? That '70s porn star look worn by both straights and gays?

by Anonymousreply 502/17/2013

Defined as...

by Anonymousreply 602/17/2013

I lived in an apartment complex inhabited almost exclusively by leathermem . This was circa 1977 in Dallas tx. It was at 2009 knight street in oak lawn. They considered the designer jeans crown at J R 's to be the clones. Real men hung put at TMC or Sundance.

by Anonymousreply 702/17/2013

No. I wouldn't even walk west of Seventh Avenue.

by Anonymousreply 802/17/2013

White Policemen in the LA area adopted the clone look which they wear to this day

by Anonymousreply 902/18/2013

Was always a turn off for me. No trappings of any kind, please.

by Anonymousreply 1002/18/2013

The clone look has changed but gay men in ghettos still all adopt the same look, style, clothing imho. It's just different now. That's all.

by Anonymousreply 1102/18/2013

I was in my daddy's balls for most of the '70s.

by Anonymousreply 1202/18/2013

R11 is correct. The clone look--mustache, skinny rolled-up jeans, plaid shirt, sneakers or boots--looked as normal then among gays as the current fashion does today.

by Anonymousreply 1302/18/2013

"My husband and myself would walk into a bar..."

Shouldn't that be "My husband and I would walk into a bar..." Not being a grammar Nazi, but the rage you are trying to express just falls flat when it's phrased so oddly.

by Anonymousreply 1402/18/2013

[quote]but the rage you are trying to express just falls flat when it's phrased so oddly

I don't think he's in a rage at all. He was just remembering...

by Anonymousreply 1502/18/2013

Summer gay clone; khaki shorts, coordinated tee shirt, baseball cap and footwear, is now straight clone. Or was that just always just preppy. I get confused.

by Anonymousreply 1602/18/2013

Totally hot look..and being copied again in the last few years with a bit of a hipster edge to it. You've see it in LA and NY for a while now.

I tried this look a few years ago and I couldn't believe how much play I was getting. If you really look at someone like Al Parker, who epitomizes the clone, he's pretty fucking hot.

Harry Reems in his day, is another good example.

by Anonymousreply 1702/18/2013

[quote]Harry Reems in his day, is another good example.

Hmmm...I see what you mean.

by Anonymousreply 1802/18/2013

Today's clones:

by Anonymousreply 1902/18/2013

One thing about that era. Men were much thinner and in MUCH better shape than they are now. I was looking at pictures I took at Pride Parades in 1978, 79 and 80, and compared them to pictures I took in 2009, 10, and 11. The difference was staggering. In the modern photos from 2009 on, nine out of ten men were fat/overweight. Looking at the photos from the late '70s, 99.9% of the men were either thin or in very good shape from working out (not like the roided out gym guys of today)and very hot.

by Anonymousreply 2002/18/2013

[quote]I was looking at pictures I took at Pride Parades in 1978, 79 and 80,

Will you post them online? It would be interesting to see them.

[quote]Looking at the photos from the late '70s, 99.9% of the men were either thin or in very good shape from working out (not like the roided out gym guys of today)and very hot.

Men did look better then, by and large...but not the clones.

by Anonymousreply 2102/18/2013

I was a clone and loved the look, still do. The guys in the late 70's/early 80's were so much better looking and more masculine than the vast majority of today's gay males.

by Anonymousreply 2202/18/2013

Yes, please post those photos online, R20 .

by Anonymousreply 2302/18/2013

[quote]I was a clone and loved the look, still do.

FINALLY a real, genuine '70s clone has arrived on the thread!

Were you hard core, R22?

Did you wear the leather caps? The handkerchiefs in the back pocket?

Where were you based?

It would be great to hear more.

by Anonymousreply 2402/18/2013

R14...You are correct, I screw up regularly. My attention wasn't the best in grammar school.

by Anonymousreply 2502/18/2013

R25 My spelling and grammar are usually okay, but I like to be able to edit once I've posted, and DL is the only place I post where I'm not allowed to edit, so sometimes things come out less than perfect.

by Anonymousreply 2602/18/2013

It's ok, r25. I blame the Mark Spitz flashbacks...

by Anonymousreply 2702/18/2013

I was ages three to thirteen in the Seventies, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2802/18/2013

Another AARP thread.

by Anonymousreply 2902/18/2013

R29, the Internet is a HUGE place full of fascinating sites for young people. If you cannot find a more stimulating and age-appropriate site to enjoy, that is your problem and no one else's.

by Anonymousreply 3002/18/2013

DL used to be fun until it became memory hour at the retirement home.

by Anonymousreply 3102/18/2013

I was in High School so I was rocking this look. Nobody but nobody could feather their hair like I could. LOL

by Anonymousreply 3202/18/2013

R31 Then start your own site--maybe you could get Pedialyte to sponsor it.

by Anonymousreply 3302/18/2013

R31, when we were your age we were too busy having fabulous sex lives to fret over sedentary activities like posting on message boards. Are you an invalid or just too fat and/or ugly to be getting laid?

by Anonymousreply 3402/18/2013

R34, is it the pills that make you such a paranoid old creep?

by Anonymousreply 3502/18/2013

No, R35, it's the marijuana. I really should give it up. What's your excuse? Remember, you are the self-appointed thread monitor, not me.

by Anonymousreply 3602/18/2013

[quote]is it the pills that make you such a paranoid old creep?

No, he's right. You should be out there getting laid and having fun...dancin'...not writing poisonous messages to older guys on a gay message board.

Something must be lacking in your life if you really are so young.

It's very sad, really.

by Anonymousreply 3702/18/2013

What does that say, R32, Greg Jagoff?

I didn't have to "feather" my hair, btw. That's what my hair is like naturally.

by Anonymousreply 3802/18/2013

Feathering was a lot of work. All the guys had this in their back pocket of the corduroys so you could touch up between classes..LOL so I guess I was a High School clone.

by Anonymousreply 3902/18/2013

R39 Those come in blue?

They're the only thing that goes through my hair. I've had a red one for decades, and a gray one. But blue. Ooh.

by Anonymousreply 4002/18/2013

This was the archetype for 1970's clone:

by Anonymousreply 4102/18/2013


by Anonymousreply 4203/08/2013

But where are the clones? There ought to be clones. Quick, send in the clones.

by Anonymousreply 4303/08/2013

This bit from the Wikipedia article made me laugh.

[quote]Hair styles were relatively short, not a crew cut, but definitely something that would not blow in the wind or require much hair spray to hold it in place.[citation needed]

by Anonymousreply 4403/08/2013

I remember as a kid in the 80s, having a mustache was considered "gay."

Like that scene in Police Academy where they go to the leather bar by accident.

by Anonymousreply 4503/08/2013

Actually those scenes at the gay bar weren't AS homophobic as I would have thought they'd be in the 80s.

I mean, there are definitely treating gays like zoo animals, but it's kind of lighthearted.

I guess.

Clips at link

by Anonymousreply 4603/08/2013

I was born in 1994. The 90s were classy, compared to those pics.

by Anonymousreply 4703/08/2013

God you people don't know nothing.

The clone look was plaid or jean shirt, Levi 501 jeans with color coded hanky in back pocket carefully faded near the bulge which was always prominent for easy shopping, black boots, wide black belt, jeans or leather jacket, a porn star mo or a Castro mo (ie the bristles extended low over bottom lip), and (depending on the weather) aviator shades.

Get it fucking right!!!!!

Hard core leathermen were NEVER classed as clones.

Those who did 'the lumberjack look' WERE also classed as clones. But the central clone look was as I've described above.

by Anonymousreply 4802/04/2014

Clones NEVER had feathered hair!

Feathered hair was worn by queens who wore stoned washed denim (later STRETCH stone washed denim), with white tennis shoes, colored belts, Lacost pastel shirts, and pastel jumpers.

It was a totally uniform clone look but they're weren't called clones. Clones would have been horrified to be identified with the above group.

by Anonymousreply 4902/04/2014

I just remembered: the above group were occasionally called Sneaker Queens. But it was the look for the majority of white bread twinks. They had glowy faces too because they often over-moisturised. (It the era of the Moisturiser!) Later some were called Clarins Queens, when Clarins momentarily became popular.

by Anonymousreply 5002/04/2014

Always wondered what the gay scene was like in the 70's. My gay days started in the late 80's. Much more preppy. If Mark Spitz was an image that many gay men in the 70's tried to look like that sure the fuck isn't a bad thing. He was hot back then and in my opinion remains a hot older man today. The whole coded hanky thing is also fascinating. Interesting way to advertise. By the time I hit the scene it was a bit more blatant. One of my funniest naive moments happened at my very first visit to a SF gay club called the Palladium. Dancing up on the stage I noticed guys would turn around and face the wall as if they were getting ready to get frisked by law enforcement. I asked a friend what kind of dance is that and he laughed and said ... Oh honey, that dance is a calling card that says.. come fuck me. I thought it was funny and felt like I'd landed in the land of OZ.

by Anonymousreply 5102/04/2014

R48 is correct.

R41 that was NOT the clone look.

by Anonymousreply 5202/04/2014

R48 got it right, for sure.

Also, I remember that blue nylon bomber jackets were very popular, at least in late 1970s DC. We had plenty of clones, too, although I think there were more preptoids than clones around town.

by Anonymousreply 5302/04/2014

Don't forget your Wella Balsam

by Anonymousreply 5402/04/2014

When the East Village art scene was taking off in the late 70s and early 80s, with clubs like Club 57 and the Mudd Club, apparently the clones from the West Village started to check it out. Some in that scene took exception to these faux masculine, "straight acting" poseurs invading their cool gender non-conforming spaces. Keith Haring organized a "Clones Go Home" protest. All very tongue in ass, I'm assuming.

by Anonymousreply 5502/04/2014
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