Were you a 'clone' in the 1970s?
I was a youngster then and found 'the look' very alarming and mostly not at all attractive.
It seemed to fade away, to a large degree, when aids arrived and a lot of gays didn't want to be so easily identifiable.
I apologize for asking the question and then being negative about it. Maybe you loved looking like that and can shine a different light on it for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||02/04/2014|
Those weren't clones, stupid, but leathermen.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||02/17/2013|
Hated the clone look. Total turnoff. All those bushy moustaches. Fuck you Mark Spitz. My husband and myself would walk into a bar in those days and would not be attracted to one person. Probably saved our lives. The Castro was wall to wall clones.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/17/2013|
That was the look for the leather crowd, still is to an extent. Op, you're a bit dim, no?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||02/17/2013|
At the risk of sounding stupid, what's a clone? That '70s porn star look worn by both straights and gays?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/17/2013|
I lived in an apartment complex inhabited almost exclusively by leathermem . This was circa 1977 in Dallas tx. It was at 2009 knight street in oak lawn. They considered the designer jeans crown at J R 's to be the clones. Real men hung put at TMC or Sundance.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/17/2013|
No. I wouldn't even walk west of Seventh Avenue.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||02/17/2013|
White Policemen in the LA area adopted the clone look which they wear to this day
|by Anonymous||reply 9||02/18/2013|
Was always a turn off for me. No trappings of any kind, please.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/18/2013|
The clone look has changed but gay men in ghettos still all adopt the same look, style, clothing imho. It's just different now. That's all.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/18/2013|
I was in my daddy's balls for most of the '70s.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/18/2013|
R11 is correct. The clone look--mustache, skinny rolled-up jeans, plaid shirt, sneakers or boots--looked as normal then among gays as the current fashion does today.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/18/2013|
"My husband and myself would walk into a bar..."
Shouldn't that be "My husband and I would walk into a bar..." Not being a grammar Nazi, but the rage you are trying to express just falls flat when it's phrased so oddly.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/18/2013|
[quote]but the rage you are trying to express just falls flat when it's phrased so oddly
I don't think he's in a rage at all. He was just remembering...
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/18/2013|
Summer gay clone; khaki shorts, coordinated tee shirt, baseball cap and footwear, is now straight clone. Or was that just always just preppy. I get confused.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/18/2013|
Totally hot look..and being copied again in the last few years with a bit of a hipster edge to it. You've see it in LA and NY for a while now.
I tried this look a few years ago and I couldn't believe how much play I was getting. If you really look at someone like Al Parker, who epitomizes the clone, he's pretty fucking hot.
Harry Reems in his day, is another good example.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/18/2013|
[quote]Harry Reems in his day, is another good example.
Hmmm...I see what you mean.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/18/2013|
One thing about that era. Men were much thinner and in MUCH better shape than they are now. I was looking at pictures I took at Pride Parades in 1978, 79 and 80, and compared them to pictures I took in 2009, 10, and 11. The difference was staggering. In the modern photos from 2009 on, nine out of ten men were fat/overweight. Looking at the photos from the late '70s, 99.9% of the men were either thin or in very good shape from working out (not like the roided out gym guys of today)and very hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/18/2013|
[quote]I was looking at pictures I took at Pride Parades in 1978, 79 and 80,
Will you post them online? It would be interesting to see them.
[quote]Looking at the photos from the late '70s, 99.9% of the men were either thin or in very good shape from working out (not like the roided out gym guys of today)and very hot.
Men did look better then, by and large...but not the clones.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/18/2013|
I was a clone and loved the look, still do. The guys in the late 70's/early 80's were so much better looking and more masculine than the vast majority of today's gay males.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/18/2013|
Yes, please post those photos online, R20 .
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/18/2013|
[quote]I was a clone and loved the look, still do.
FINALLY a real, genuine '70s clone has arrived on the thread!
Were you hard core, R22?
Did you wear the leather caps? The handkerchiefs in the back pocket?
Where were you based?
It would be great to hear more.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/18/2013|
R14...You are correct, I screw up regularly. My attention wasn't the best in grammar school.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/18/2013|
R25 My spelling and grammar are usually okay, but I like to be able to edit once I've posted, and DL is the only place I post where I'm not allowed to edit, so sometimes things come out less than perfect.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/18/2013|
It's ok, r25. I blame the Mark Spitz flashbacks...
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/18/2013|
I was ages three to thirteen in the Seventies, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/18/2013|
R29, the Internet is a HUGE place full of fascinating sites for young people. If you cannot find a more stimulating and age-appropriate site to enjoy, that is your problem and no one else's.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/18/2013|
DL used to be fun until it became memory hour at the retirement home.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/18/2013|
I was in High School so I was rocking this look. Nobody but nobody could feather their hair like I could. LOL
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/18/2013|
R31 Then start your own site--maybe you could get Pedialyte to sponsor it.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/18/2013|
R31, when we were your age we were too busy having fabulous sex lives to fret over sedentary activities like posting on message boards. Are you an invalid or just too fat and/or ugly to be getting laid?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/18/2013|
R34, is it the pills that make you such a paranoid old creep?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||02/18/2013|
No, R35, it's the marijuana. I really should give it up. What's your excuse? Remember, you are the self-appointed thread monitor, not me.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||02/18/2013|
[quote]is it the pills that make you such a paranoid old creep?
No, he's right. You should be out there getting laid and having fun...dancin'...not writing poisonous messages to older guys on a gay message board.
Something must be lacking in your life if you really are so young.
It's very sad, really.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||02/18/2013|
What does that say, R32, Greg Jagoff?
I didn't have to "feather" my hair, btw. That's what my hair is like naturally.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||02/18/2013|
Feathering was a lot of work. All the guys had this in their back pocket of the corduroys so you could touch up between classes..LOL so I guess I was a High School clone.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||02/18/2013|
R39 Those come in blue?
They're the only thing that goes through my hair. I've had a red one for decades, and a gray one. But blue. Ooh.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||02/18/2013|
This was the archetype for 1970's clone:
|by Anonymous||reply 41||02/18/2013|
But where are the clones? There ought to be clones. Quick, send in the clones.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||03/08/2013|
This bit from the Wikipedia article made me laugh.
[quote]Hair styles were relatively short, not a crew cut, but definitely something that would not blow in the wind or require much hair spray to hold it in place.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||03/08/2013|
I remember as a kid in the 80s, having a mustache was considered "gay."
Like that scene in Police Academy where they go to the leather bar by accident.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||03/08/2013|
Actually those scenes at the gay bar weren't AS homophobic as I would have thought they'd be in the 80s.
I mean, there are definitely treating gays like zoo animals, but it's kind of lighthearted.
Clips at link
|by Anonymous||reply 46||03/08/2013|
I was born in 1994. The 90s were classy, compared to those pics.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||03/08/2013|
God you people don't know nothing.
The clone look was plaid or jean shirt, Levi 501 jeans with color coded hanky in back pocket carefully faded near the bulge which was always prominent for easy shopping, black boots, wide black belt, jeans or leather jacket, a porn star mo or a Castro mo (ie the bristles extended low over bottom lip), and (depending on the weather) aviator shades.
Get it fucking right!!!!!
Hard core leathermen were NEVER classed as clones.
Those who did 'the lumberjack look' WERE also classed as clones. But the central clone look was as I've described above.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||02/03/2014|
Clones NEVER had feathered hair!
Feathered hair was worn by queens who wore stoned washed denim (later STRETCH stone washed denim), with white tennis shoes, colored belts, Lacost pastel shirts, and pastel jumpers.
It was a totally uniform clone look but they're weren't called clones. Clones would have been horrified to be identified with the above group.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||02/03/2014|
I just remembered: the above group were occasionally called Sneaker Queens. But it was the look for the majority of white bread twinks. They had glowy faces too because they often over-moisturised. (It the era of the Moisturiser!) Later some were called Clarins Queens, when Clarins momentarily became popular.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||02/03/2014|
Always wondered what the gay scene was like in the 70's. My gay days started in the late 80's. Much more preppy. If Mark Spitz was an image that many gay men in the 70's tried to look like that sure the fuck isn't a bad thing. He was hot back then and in my opinion remains a hot older man today. The whole coded hanky thing is also fascinating. Interesting way to advertise. By the time I hit the scene it was a bit more blatant. One of my funniest naive moments happened at my very first visit to a SF gay club called the Palladium. Dancing up on the stage I noticed guys would turn around and face the wall as if they were getting ready to get frisked by law enforcement. I asked a friend what kind of dance is that and he laughed and said ... Oh honey, that dance is a calling card that says.. come fuck me. I thought it was funny and felt like I'd landed in the land of OZ.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||02/03/2014|
R48 is correct.
R41 that was NOT the clone look.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||02/03/2014|
R48 got it right, for sure.
Also, I remember that blue nylon bomber jackets were very popular, at least in late 1970s DC. We had plenty of clones, too, although I think there were more preptoids than clones around town.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||02/04/2014|
Don't forget your Wella Balsam
|by Anonymous||reply 54||02/04/2014|
When the East Village art scene was taking off in the late 70s and early 80s, with clubs like Club 57 and the Mudd Club, apparently the clones from the West Village started to check it out. Some in that scene took exception to these faux masculine, "straight acting" poseurs invading their cool gender non-conforming spaces. Keith Haring organized a "Clones Go Home" protest. All very tongue in ass, I'm assuming.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||02/04/2014|