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Where the Gays Are

Gay population by state, according to a new Gallup study:

Washington, DC, is overrun. Seriously.

Hawaii is paradise.

It's cold in North Dakota.

Numbers at link.

by Anonymousreply 5103/01/2013

Funny about DC. I always hear the gays there are generally a horror... stuck up, snobby, insular. Sort of their own jailers if it's true and the density is correct.

by Anonymousreply 102/17/2013

DC is a city. If you just polled gay populations of other big cities you would get similar numbers as out gay men tend to gravitate toward cities.

by Anonymousreply 202/17/2013

If a gay man can survive the cut throat world of the Khaki and Blue Blazer DC gays, then everywhere else is a piece of cake. They don't mess around in DC.

by Anonymousreply 302/17/2013

The numbers look like pure bull shit to me

by Anonymousreply 402/17/2013

In what way R4? It is a poll of based on phone responses what percentage of people in each state self-identified as LBGT. That isn't supposed to be a perfectly accurate number, but it does yield good information and basically the data shakes out as you would expect IMO.

by Anonymousreply 502/17/2013

"If you just polled gay populations of other big cities you would get similar numbers as out gay men tend to gravitate toward cities."

That's what I find so surprising about New York State. I'd expect that New York city would skew the state results upward because the city should be gay-central. (NYC has a population of about 8 million, and the rest of the state about 12 million.)

But instead, all of New York state which includes NYC is pretty much Ohio in terms of the number of self-identifying gays.

by Anonymousreply 602/17/2013

Republicans want to know where we are. This is not necessarily a good development.

It is not even conceivable that PA would be so low.

Or Wisconsin.

Or Minnesota. Below West Virginia? Puh-leeze.

And North Dakota is only 1.7 but South Dakota, which is evangelical central, is 4.4? Nonsensical!

by Anonymousreply 702/17/2013

I guess North by Northwest was a documentary and all the gays have a summer home near Rapid City!

by Anonymousreply 802/17/2013

This is not a good statistical comparison.

by Anonymousreply 902/17/2013

R7 According to your logic regarding Republicans, gay people should NOT be advocating for marriage. What better way to track than a government sanctioned institution?

by Anonymousreply 1002/17/2013

Funny how the bible belt states are lowest on the list, yet are at the top of the list for porn consumption (both gay & straight).

by Anonymousreply 1102/17/2013

[quote]"Do you, perconally, identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender?"

These are the 10 states with the highest percentage of people not answering yes or no.

Louisiana (6.4%)

Rhode Island (6.3%)

New Hampshire (5.6%)

Michigan (5.1%)

New Jersey (5%)

New York (5%)

Mississippi (4.9%)

North Carolina (4.9%)

Alabama (4.7%)

North Dakota (4.6%)

by Anonymousreply 1202/17/2013

The figures are actually very low.

by Anonymousreply 1302/17/2013

I still wish to know who answers poll questions. You'd have to have a landline, you'd have to pick up strange phone calls, and you'd have to be willing to give personal information away for free.

by Anonymousreply 1402/17/2013

Hey, Wisconsin has no gays! I wanted to move to Madison.

by Anonymousreply 1502/17/2013

Shouldn't this thread have Connie Francis singing its theme song?

by Anonymousreply 1602/17/2013

The poll is skewed towards DC because of all the congressional Republicans identifying themselves as being from there rather than their home states.

by Anonymousreply 1702/17/2013

Madison could be 12% gay; you have no way of knowing from this article.

by Anonymousreply 1802/17/2013

Madison has an LGBT community, but the ratio of lesbians to gay men is probably 3 to 1.

But there's a ton of sexy, scruffy and 'straight' college boys there. I know....I blew about a dozen of them over a few years I lived and worked there!

by Anonymousreply 1902/17/2013

Good, R18. I'm searching for a job in non-healthcare accounting. I'm most comfortable around bitter Germans and at least one season of freezing cold snow.

by Anonymousreply 2002/17/2013

"It is a poll of based on phone responses what percentage of people in each state self-identified as LBGT"

Yep. Of course people living in big cities or hip college towns that have a gay subculture are going to be more likely to identify as gay than someone living in the Bible belt.

It's hard to say for sure where "the gays are" because people are still in the closet in 2013.

As r12 pointed out, many people did not give a response when asked about their sexual orientation...

by Anonymousreply 2102/17/2013

Nevada is gayer than CALIFORNIA!!!

by Anonymousreply 2202/17/2013

About 5% of people did not answer the question, r21. You are deluded if you think most of those people are secretly gay.

It's irrelevant anyway - people that do not self identity as gay re by definition not gay.

by Anonymousreply 2302/17/2013

There is no way to know what percentage of people didn't answer the question are gay R23. Though I would logically say a good percentage as most straight people would have no problem saying no and people who might be confused about their sexuality are most likely not to answer.

[quote] people that do not self identity as gay re by definition not gay.

What kind of logic is that? Gay is a sexual orientation, whether you chose to publicly acknowledge you are gay does not change your sexual orientation. By "definition" it just means you aren't openly gay.

by Anonymousreply 2402/17/2013

This survey doesn't really mean anything.

by Anonymousreply 2502/17/2013

Then why does Barbara Walters ask people what kind of tree they are, r24? If I say I'm a Juneberry tree (which is a small tree, or tall shrub, with white flowers in the spring), who are you to say otherwise? We are all self-defining.

by Anonymousreply 2602/17/2013

DC is always at the top of lists ranked by state, because it is not a state, it is a city. You cannot compare. A more rational sample would compare DC to other cities. I'm guessing the % in DC is similar to other small cities i.e. Boston Philly etc.

by Anonymousreply 2702/17/2013

Can you imagine how high the gay percentage would be if they isolated the poll to the Academy Awards next week, and instead asked "Can you tell us why you brought your mother today?"

by Anonymousreply 2802/17/2013

[quote]This survey doesn't really mean anything.

It's arguable that because it is the FIRST time a study has had a large enough sample sizes to provide estimates of the LGBT population by state that the "out" LGBT population has now reached a critical size.

We are now large enough to be counted, so to speak.

They asked 200,000 random people if they identify as LGBT.

7,000 said yes in 2013. And it will be more in 2014 as the closet becomes easier to escape.

by Anonymousreply 2902/17/2013

The word gay is a hangup for many. A lot of men who have sex with men hate the word gay.

by Anonymousreply 3002/17/2013

I can't believe how low PA is on the list.

I should move back to Tampa.

by Anonymousreply 3102/17/2013

"About 5% of people did not answer the question, R21. You are deluded if you think most of those people are secretly gay."

Well, duh, I never said they were all closet cases. I was just pointing out that SOME people who are gay are not out. Learn how to read before you call others "deluded"

by Anonymousreply 3202/17/2013

Most men who attracted to men will never identify as gay. The word gay repels them so much they would rather identify as anything but gay.

by Anonymousreply 3302/17/2013

[quote]The word gay repels them so much they would rather identify as anything but gay.

Yeah, they're scared of a word. OK, right, then.

by Anonymousreply 3402/18/2013

"Yeah, they're scared of a word. OK, right, then."

Yeah, it's so hard to believe that many people would not want to identify with a stigmatized group. Ok, right, then.

Why do you think so many guys who like guys insist that they "don't like labels" but men who are 100% into women never do? Because "gay" and "bisexual" are stigmatized lables but "straight" isn't.

by Anonymousreply 3502/18/2013

You'd be amazed by the number of guys I jerk off with on Skype who don't identify as gay. They say things like, "I'm straight but just like comparing dick size with other guys." Yea right...and they apparently cum from comparing dick size, too. Hey, whatever!

by Anonymousreply 3602/18/2013

r36, no one is amazed by the fact that people avoid identifying with groups or labels that are highly stigmatized by society. that is why most same-sex oriented guys are closeted, in denial, married to women,or steadfastly eschew the label "gay."

by Anonymousreply 3702/18/2013

To those saying DC is not a state:

While it isn't a state, it actually has a population BIGGER than many mid-western states and other states like Alaska, so I think it is valid to have it on the list.

by Anonymousreply 3802/18/2013

If gay porn stars who have been repeatedly speared by scores of dudes on camera won't identify as gay, it is even less likely that guys with less evidence of their homosexual interests will be more forthcoming.

by Anonymousreply 3902/18/2013

Texas is second in total numbers only to california. Im sure those of you not from Texas are stunned.

by Anonymousreply 4002/18/2013

Population is not the issue. DC is a city, which means it is only a few square miles and has a very dense population. Even the smallest state, Rhode Island, can't compare to the density and character of city. Cities inherently have higher gay populations than even the most liberal states, especially gay men who tend to love living in cities.

by Anonymousreply 4102/18/2013

As stated above, the weakness of the survey is "self-identified as gay by telephone."

Gay for many people is as negative a characteristic as Fat.

Imagine a telephone survey where you ask people if they consider themselves thin, normal weight, overweight, or obese. Obese in America is now about 36% of adults, but I wonder what the self-assessed telephone survey would find.

Still even with all the weaknesses, the gay survey by states has value. It's a touchstone of self-identified gays in America, and how it may change over time. Here's hoping this survey is repeated every year for decades to come.

by Anonymousreply 4202/18/2013

R38 DC has a smaller population than literally every state in the country except Wyoming. It has only 630,000 people. You may be thinking of the outlying suburbs, in VA or MD, populations which would normally be included in its greater metropolitan areas, which swells to nearly 6 million people. However, because it is a small federal ward, those are not included; it is an inner-city and that's it. Any socio or economic state-by-state poll which includes the DC population as a separate value is poor sampling; it should be counted as part of Virginia or Maryland

by Anonymousreply 4302/19/2013

If Nana Mouskouri called me on the telephone, I'd answer Gay

by Anonymousreply 4402/19/2013

I for one am not surprised by Pennsylvania's ranking...

James Carville, who ran political campaigns for the late Gov. Robert Casey Sr;, described Pennsylvania as two big cities and Alabama smack dab in the middle.

If you are a gay/lesbian teen growing up in Johnstown or Wilkes Barre let alone Coudersport or Tamaqua or Charleroi, all you can hope and pray that you can graduate high school and more away to a gay-friendly area

by Anonymousreply 4502/19/2013

I love that James Carville line

by Anonymousreply 4602/19/2013

Ah, but the oasis in Central PA is Harrisburg, such as it is. It has five gay bars (at least) and is pretty gay-friendly. It had a gay mayor for 30 years.

Sadly, it's fallen upon hard times.

by Anonymousreply 4702/19/2013

PA will be the last northern state east of the Mississippi to have marriage equality. It does not even outlaw antigay discrimination of any type. It is a very conservative state.

by Anonymousreply 4802/19/2013

Even within NYC, many people are closeted or just don't want to identify as gay. So many guys especially will do everything to avoid the gay label.

by Anonymousreply 4903/01/2013

I'm surprised Gallup is still in business after they had their ass handed to them in the 2012 election.

by Anonymousreply 5003/01/2013

to be fair to Gallup, r50, their woes in November are attributable to their voter turnout model. Their likely voter model made the wrong assumptions about who would turn out. This poll of sexual identity is different because it doesn't eliminate people from the poll based on some formula, but includes everyone in a huge sampling.

by Anonymousreply 5103/01/2013
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