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I Remember Mama on TCM TONIGHT!

btw why did the musical version starring Liv Ullman flop on Broadway?

by Anonymousreply 2902/14/2013

By 1979, Broadway audiences had become accustomed to edgier musicals such as Sweeney Todd and Evita.

Critics found Mama to be old-fashioned and corny, and all were quick to describe the musically disinclined Ullmann as miscast.

The New York Times reviewer wrote: "At the end of its much-postponed and choppy progress...this big and expensive musical had buried most of the strengths it possesses under a mass of cliches and a pervading, forced cuteness.... Miss Ullman is unsuited to it."

Advance box office sales, particularly for matinée performances, had been strong enough to keep the show alive in its early weeks, but attendance quickly dropped in numbers dramatic enough to warrant closing. It was Rodgers'last musical.

An original cast album was never recorded, but a studio recording with Hearn and Irving reprising their stage roles and Sally Ann Howes replacing Ullmann was released in 1985.

by Anonymousreply 102/13/2013

It's a good movie. It is a bit dry, though.

by Anonymousreply 202/13/2013

In the studio recording Pat Routledge was Aunt Jenny.

by Anonymousreply 302/13/2013

Tante trina var lesbisk!

by Anonymousreply 402/13/2013

Irene Dunne said it was her favorite role. Played Mama in the Lux Radio Theatre version and the audition for eventual television series which starred Peggy Wood from 1949-57.

by Anonymousreply 502/13/2013

The movie tonight starts at 8:00ET on TCM.

by Anonymousreply 602/13/2013

Ya and Ellen Corby's birth name was Ellen Hansen, the family name in the production.

by Anonymousreply 702/13/2013

"I NEVER miss a Liv Ullman musical!"

by Anonymousreply 802/13/2013

Also the book and movie are VERY episodic with no real through line.

Episodic musicals rarely work.

They made up a conflict for the musical by having FATHER leave the family to go find work.

Therefore he's the "bad guy"

by Anonymousreply 902/13/2013

I always preferred this version.

by Anonymousreply 1002/13/2013

I knew tired, old R8 would show up on clue.

I need new cyber-friends.

by Anonymousreply 1102/13/2013

Hey, some people have never heard that joke!

by Anonymousreply 1202/13/2013

[quote] btw why did the musical version starring Liv Ullman flop on Broadway?

Probably because it was a musical starring Liv Ullman.

by Anonymousreply 1302/13/2013

Whatever happened to Liv Ullman, anyway?

by Anonymousreply 1402/13/2013

r9, wasn't "father leaving the family for work" used on "Good Times?"

by Anonymousreply 1502/13/2013

Yeah, R8, a joke from an ugly, hate-filled homophobic bitch about screen goddess Liv Ullmann. No doubt Midler was jealous of her beauty and talent.

by Anonymousreply 1602/13/2013

Corny, sappy, over sentimental, but shit, I love that movie.

by Anonymousreply 1702/13/2013

I always get this movie mixed up with A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. I know they are different things but in my head they are the same, like Shane and Bambi. I always think Angela Lansbury is Barbara Bel Geddes even though I know that's not true. Or vice versa.

I think I drank too much Bacardi a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 1802/13/2013

Even without Midler, Liv Ullmann made a joke of herself by appearing in TV commercials for the show in which she reminisced about her girlhood in Sweden when she adored the lovely tunes of Richard Rodgers. It was an unintentional reminder of how quaint and dated his music sounded to audiences of the late 70s.

I believe there was some backstage drama where lyricist Martin Charnin had an affair with Liv Ullmann during the out-of-town tryouts, at which time he was also the show's director. Then Ullmann broke off with him and he was replaced as director by Cy Feuer.

In the tradition of many an impending flop, the show played five long weeks of previews in NYC while its creators tinkered and tried to pull a hit out of it. Sadly, Richard Rodgers' last show would limp through the summer of '79 and expire on September 2nd, just thirteen weeks after it opened. Rodgers died on December 30th the same year.

by Anonymousreply 1902/13/2013

Oskar Homolka rocked!

by Anonymousreply 2002/13/2013

They did some location shooting in SF for this movie.

by Anonymousreply 2102/13/2013

You know, I saw it on Broadway in previews and I don't remember a thing about it....except maybe for some lovely costumes by Theoni V. Aldredge.

There was just no reason for it to be.

And btw, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn is an incrediblly moving film.....far better than I Remember Mama.

by Anonymousreply 2202/13/2013

Ian Ziering played the son!

by Anonymousreply 2302/13/2013

[quote]they are different things but in my head they are the same, like Shane and Bambi.

How are Shane & Bambi the same?

by Anonymousreply 2402/13/2013

Wasn't the musical directed by Martin Charnin, the One Hit (Annie) Wonder? No wonder it tanked.

by Anonymousreply 2502/13/2013

r16, simmer down.

The butt plug either goes in or it comes out.

Make up your mind.

by Anonymousreply 2602/13/2013

Midler's comment about never missing a Liv Ullman musical was in reference to "Lost Horizon" the big budget Ross Hunter stinkeroo that had Liv singing and dancing with children, dubbed by a woman who sang with an English accent.

by Anonymousreply 2702/13/2013

Mama doest like! Ease good to have the kärleksmussla to be succulent as oven warm schtudel.

by Anonymousreply 2802/14/2013

I remember mama and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn -- the mid-century light and dark about poor girls who grow up to be writers.

Now we have people who pretend they are poor girls (or drawf boys) and write fake stories in first person.

by Anonymousreply 2902/14/2013
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