On BBC 1 right now. Hosted by a somewhat slimmed-down Stephen Fry. "Half of Hollywood is in the audience," apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||02/23/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||02/10/2013|
Argo seems unstoppable now.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||02/10/2013|
Appalling that a CIA propaganda movie is winning all these awards.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/10/2013|
Fuck you, r1, for posting spoilers.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||02/10/2013|
Are you out of your mind, R4? The link is CLEARLY labeled. If you didn't want to know, don't click on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/10/2013|
Hate R4! Never liked that Queen!
|by Anonymous||reply 6||02/10/2013|
OMG, what a joke the Baftas are!
Ben Affleck BEST DIRECTOR over Michael Haneke and Ang Lee !!
At least Emmanuelle Riva won best actress, which she truly was last year.
Ann got another pointless award for her exhausting, overwrought performance.
Django Unchained best screenplay of the year? Another big laugh on that one. Where is Spike Lee when you need him?
The Baftas are WORSE than the Golden Globes!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/10/2013|
What about the television portion of the event? Is 'Doctor Who' nominated for anything this year?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||02/10/2013|
How much butt-kissin did Ben Afflecks do? His movie is not that great.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||02/10/2013|
I enjoyed watching the ceremony, Stephen Fry's a great host. I haven't seen Argo yet though so I can't comment on whether it deserved so many awards.
The most annoying thing about the BAFTAs recently though is that because they pander to the Oscars, half the films either haven't been released yet or have only been out for a month. In fact, when they announced the best film nominations in December I don't thin ANY of the films had actually been released in the UK.
R8 They've separated the TV and film awards. The film awards were put earlier in the year because no one cared about them if they were after the Oscars.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/10/2013|
On the Henry Cavill thread it said Henry and his new beard are there. Any sign of them in the audience so far?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/10/2013|
[quote]They've separated the TV and film awards.
Is this the first time they've done that?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/10/2013|
R11 He presented an award with Martin Freeman and the camera cut to him a couple of times. He looked hot but I thought his hair was a bit too long. I didn't notice the beard.
Speaking of gays though, did anyone see Jeremy Renner present the award for Best Actress? Stephen Fry introduced him as a 'male actress' and then Renner sissied that walk all the way down that stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/10/2013|
Why is Henry Cavill there? What film of his is nominated?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/10/2013|
R12 No, they've been separate since 1997. Film awards just before the Oscars and TV awards in May.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/10/2013|
ARGO winning Best Picture is a total joke. They are really kissing up to Ben Affleck.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/10/2013|
There's a pic of Henry Cavill and the beard in the DM article at the linked thread. Huge amount of space between them.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/10/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/10/2013|
[quote]Huge amount of space between them.
Aren't they just raising suspicions by looking so uncomfortable together? Someone needs to tell them to start holding hands or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/10/2013|
Not that it matters a lick in the grand scheme of things, but Ben Affleck being on the road to winning a Best Picture Oscar for "Argo" is totally annoying for some reason.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/10/2013|
BAFTA: ‘Argo’ Wins Best Film And Best Director, Daniel Day-Lewis Lead Actor, Emmanuelle Riva Lead Actress, Anne Hathaway Supporting Actress, Christoph Waltz Supporting Actor, ‘Django Unchained’ & ‘Silver Linings Playbook’ Screenplays, ‘Brave’ Animation, ‘Amour’ Foreign, ‘Skyfall’ Best British Film
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/10/2013|
R12 it's been done since the mid 90s I think. R8 is right as they were held later in the year before and it was very awkward to see Bet Lynch of Coronation Street mingle with John Travolta.
I liked Emmanuelle Riva's win (knew she would here) and I may have imagined it but JLaw made a face when she didn't show up, Marion seemed sort of pleased.
But though I didn't mind the winners, I agree these awards are a joke. I like Stephen Fry but though part of the industry he's a bad choice for this and makes it seem too stuffy.
The biggest annoyance is as indicated by R1's post is yet again this shitfest doesn't even go out live on the BBC (I was watching Mr Selfridge so didn't care). Awards shows aren't shown live on UK TV, honestly what's the bloody point.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/10/2013|
Why would they give Waltz supporting? It should go to Tommy Lee Jones.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/10/2013|
Because Tommy Lee Jones is an asshole?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/10/2013|
They cancelled my last performance in THE HEIRESS.. for this?!!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/10/2013|
I would have liked to have seen Christoph if he shown up, think he's bald now after sporting that nasty beard.
S/Actor is the only interesting category in terms of upset despite being boring on paper with all the winners. To me PSH was best, but TLJ also good and can take it. But some are saying De Niro again (really?). Arkin can fuck right off.
I did catch Cavill and he looked very tall next to Martin Freeman who is ageing horribly.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/10/2013|
[quote]I did catch Cavill and he looked very tall next to Martin Freeman
I guess that's why Martin is a hobbit.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/10/2013|
lol, R27, I did have that in mind as well but Henry seemed pretty tall, about 6 foot.
I liked that producer guy of Searching for the Sugar Man which won Best Documentary, which was pretty late in the show compared to it being near the start with the Oscars. I thought he was French, but he's Swedish. Since this is up for Oscar I imagine it must win, it's easily the best known.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/10/2013|
[quote]Why is Henry Cavill there? What film of his is nominated?
That's what I'd like to know. He's such a shitty actor that neither he or his films will ever be nominated. Guess his PR people wanted him to attend so that he could get his picture taken with the beard.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||02/10/2013|
I can't stand Stephen Fry. He's so obsequious and wordy, it's embarrassing. Cringe.
Henry's beard looks fat next to him. I don't think he'll have much of a film career after Superman. He's such a plank of wood.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/10/2013|
[quote]Why is Henry Cavill there? What film of his is nominated?
Uhm, because he's GORGEOUS?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/10/2013|
Kudos to the guy in that long ago thread who predicted SKYFALL would win Best British Film over the odious LES MIZ (despite the ridiculous and continued protestations of at least one poster who declared LES MIZ would sweep).
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/10/2013|
If you don't want to know something, STAY OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET.
The world actually doesn't need to modify its entire schedule to accommodate your every wish and desire.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/10/2013|
[quote]Uhm, because he's GORGEOUS?
You sound like a pathetic fangirl.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/10/2013|
I eat shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||02/10/2013|
The look on David O Russell's face when EmmanuelleRiva won was priceless. Could someone technical-minded please make a GIF of that?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||02/10/2013|
Ugggh. Kevin Spacey. Man, his hairline couldn't recede any further.
The British weather, food, booze and rentboys strike again.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||02/10/2013|
Don't have a GIF but found this R36, lol
JLaw can go fuck herself now, looked like her SNL skit wasn't a joke and there wasn't even a compliment for Emmanuelle in it, unlike all the others.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||02/10/2013|
It's a shame they left Simon Ward out of the In Memoriam segment.
He was a hot piece of ass when he played young Winston Churchill and his daughter Sophie's an out lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||02/10/2013|
Is it true that Fry made a comment about beards and the camera panned to SJP?? Someone tweeted that.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||02/10/2013|
Riva will win the Oscar.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||02/10/2013|
thanks for that awesome link r38 that is priceless. Could they look any more pissed.
Best actress is Riva's to lose now I believe. I will be standing and cheering in my living room when she wins. Very well deserved.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||02/10/2013|
Nobody has ever heard of Riva, and nobody has seen that movie. You think the Americans are going to award the French? Get real!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||02/10/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 44||02/10/2013|
They have before R43 - quite recently in fact, and I did not get another nomination this year...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||02/10/2013|
It will be cool to see last year's FRENCH Best Actor winner, Jean Dujardin, present this year's Best Actress to the very FRENCH Riva.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||02/10/2013|
Now if only the anti-Anne Hathaway movement has gained enough momentum to get Sally Field that supporting Oscar....
The backlash against Anne is getting bigger daily, but will it be big enough and in time before all the votes are in? We live in hope...
|by Anonymous||reply 47||02/10/2013|
Why is Hathaway winning all these awards?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||02/10/2013|
You sound insufferable, R47.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||02/10/2013|
Was Tommy Lee Jones wearing a caftan tonight? It appeared that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||02/10/2013|
[quote]It will be cool to see last year's FRENCH Best Actor winner, Jean Dujardin, present this year's Best Actress to the very FRENCH Riva.
Not to mention, Riva's 86th birthday is on that very day (Feb. 24) so that would be a nice present, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||02/10/2013|
[quote]Why is Hathaway winning all these awards?
Why is Argo winning all these awards? If the Academy had nominated Ben Afflecks for best director, Argo wouldn't be winning best picture. I guess every award show owes Ben Afflecks the best picture award, and decided to forget about Steven Spielberg. That's messed up!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||02/10/2013|
Yes, I don't get the Argo fever, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||02/10/2013|
Riva absolutely will not win. Very few voters managed to see the whole movie, I would assume. It's about old French people facing death.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||02/10/2013|
Anything can happen but if I had to guess I'd say Riva will win. Even Nicole Kidman has publicly proclaimed Riva's the finest performance of the year. (And Nicole's one of Naomi Watts's best friends.)
Then there's the fact that, although r43 has never heard of her, people who work in film know her. Most Academy members have at least seen Hiroshima Mon Amour. Hundreds of them no doubt had to study it in college and or film school. I know I did.
And she's the oldest best actress nominee.
And the oscars are on her 86th birthday.
Her performance has the momentum.
But mostly because she deserves it.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||02/10/2013|
I would think watching all of Amour should be of great interest to Academy members.
The median age of Academy members is 62 so it's not as if the subject is not personal and of great moment.
The movie is stunning, at moments scary and exciting, and very emotional. At times it plays as much as a horror film or a mystery as it does as an intimate drama.
There are only three movies nominated for best picture and director. One would think that it shouldn't be that much of a burden for the voters to watch those three films in their entirety.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||02/10/2013|
Only a few pretentious gays think Riva will win.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||02/10/2013|
PSH should have won, Waltz was not that great in that movie IMO, he is too stiff at doing comedy. Anne Hathaway, Ben Affleck, Skyfall - please this is ridiculous. Hathaway and Affleck are just good at running an aggressive PR campaign, but both are not talented at all. Skyfall made a lot of money but apart from Javier Bardem, Judi Dench and Ben Wishaw the movie had just good camera sequences and a lame story and lame lead actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||02/10/2013|
"Only a few pretentious gays think Riva will win."
NIcole Kidman is pretentious and gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||02/10/2013|
I don't know what's worse.
Those who can't handle an actress deservedly winning for a brilliant comic performance in a popular entertainment (Marisa Tomei, My Cousin Vinnie).
Or those who can't handle the possibility of an actress deservedly winning for a brilliant dramatic performance in what we used to call an "art film" (Emmanuelle Riva, Amour).
|by Anonymous||reply 60||02/10/2013|
The link at r1 lists ALL the winners without clicking on the link. Its right there, inline.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||02/10/2013|
How did has been horse actress SJP get to present Best Actor?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||02/10/2013|
Why don't the BAFTAs have the previous year's winners present the award to the opposite sex like the Oscars?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||02/10/2013|
[quote]I can't stand Stephen Fry. He's so obsequious and wordy, it's embarrassing. Cringe.
His whole schtick is a joke! He's hiding taking the piss under purported obsequiousness, and he uses wordiness to aid that intent. I'm sorry you don't get that.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||02/10/2013|
Fry did indeed open by drawing attention to his facial hair and saying he was far from the only actor there with a beard. (Surprised knowing laughter.)
When Clooney presented he thanked Fry for making his own facial hair more acceptable. Then a weird little awkward pause, before doing his duty. (Where was he going with that?) Another plain-sight in-joke probably.
Spacey is evidently keeping his snug little House Of Cards wig, which in fact makes his face look older.
Fry just about gets away with his edgy verbosity, which he needs to given he advises everyone else to keep their speeches short.
The 'Argo' love seems surprising, but I suppose BAFTA needs to push a support-your-local-cinema thriller rather than other 'harder sells.'
|by Anonymous||reply 65||02/10/2013|
Someone should start a thread saying "Ben's Win Makes The Academy Awards Collapse Complete The Streep troll will go into meltdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||02/10/2013|
[quote]Why don't the BAFTAs have the previous year's winners present the award to the opposite sex like the Oscars?
because I didn't want to fly to London just to present
|by Anonymous||reply 67||02/11/2013|
Thank you, R32.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||02/11/2013|
[quote]I didn't want to fly to London just to present
Tell me about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||02/11/2013|
I get it, R64. I just don't think it's funny or clever. And it's mostly just obsequiousness. It's that unfunny "oh, all the Hollywood celebs have come to little Britain...!" It's not funny. It's just cringey.
And they always over egg the script: "She's the biggest film star in the world! Sarah Jessica Parker!" "He's having a great success in such films as Pulp Fiction...Tim Roth!" (Pulp Fiction was about 20 years ago.)
The whole show is about British discomfort with giving out awards and not being the Oscars.
And R64, the A-list only comes when they're on the hunt for an Oscar.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||02/11/2013|
Skyfall was such a ridiculous film with huge plotholes. Awarding it indicates that the Baftas have lost their credibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||02/11/2013|
I 100% agree with R 71 about Skyfall.
Dredful, dredful film. The fact that it has not been nominated for anything else at any other award ceremony speaks volumns. I also only think it was a success at the British box office because every cinema was showing in at least three different screens about 20 times a day and there was nothing else to see.
Horrible cringeworthy one liners like "I like you better without your berreta". The roof top chase sceen was a rip off of Bourne, the scene where he is removing something from under his skin was a rip off from the Mancunian Candidate and the Bardem's capture and escape sceen was a rip off from Silence of the Lambs.
I also think Bardem has damaged his promising career with such a terrible performance.
Finally the tube crash sceen was no better than the tram crash sceene in Cornonation Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||02/11/2013|
Well I thought the roll eye Affleck gave when he and Cooper were on the stage might mean they are the answer to that Bi about 2 men who fought at the Oscars Party because one slept with the others wife.
The one thing that was so sickening was the gross sycophantic warblings of the likes of Affleck and Cooper and some other of the Hollywood elite. It was so vulgar.
I don't need some talentless fame whore telling me how important British film is.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||02/11/2013|
What the fuck are we going to do? That fucking cunt Afflec won more awards???
|by Anonymous||reply 74||02/11/2013|
I didn't even recognize Tim Roth.
Martin Freeman is much too old for that haircut.
David O. Russell looks like a disenchanted crow in that audience pic. He's repulsive.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||02/11/2013|
Argo is a routine thriller. The supposed based-on-actual-events selling point is a con. The plot has been "heightened" beyond belief.
Zero Dark Thirty is the film Argo pretends to be but it handles much more difficult subject matter (torture, terrorism and global politics) in a sophisticated, non-jingoistic way.
Argo is a routine caper flick a la Oceans Eleven whereas Zero Dark Thirty is a political thriller like All The President's Men.
In every department, technical and artistic, ZDT is superlative. A masterpiece.
Django Unchained was a disappointment to me: I loved Inglorious Bastards and all of Tarantino'd previous films but this one is a minor work at best and is probably his feeblest effort.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||02/11/2013|
I thought something was wrong with Stephen Fry - he looked kinda different, I wondered if he was ill too, like Michael York ?
I just knew Riva would get best actress, as she will at the Oscars too. Pleased about that. But if Riva's co-star Jean-Louis Trintignant was also in the running as best actor, I am not so sure DDL would get his automatic win.
Looks like Les Miz is only going to clean up as regards best supporting actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||02/11/2013|
This is cute.. Tom Hiddleston hugging Eddie Redmayne pt. 1
|by Anonymous||reply 78||02/11/2013|
This is cute.. Tom Hiddleston hugging Eddie Redmayne pt. 2
|by Anonymous||reply 79||02/11/2013|
Yes r39, they also omitted Jon Finch, another interesting actor who died last year. In fact their annual round-up of who died was rather short and didn't include Whitney or Donna who appeared in movies too.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||02/11/2013|
What parallel universe do you live in r43? Obviously not interested in anything not American. Riva is an accaimed French actress, in films since the 1960s and Haneke is a famous director. It has been the hot European movie since May when it won at Cannes Film Festival. Thats a film festival in France in case you did not know.
Oscars have been given to European actresses before: Simone Signoret, Sophia Loren, and Marion Cotillard a few years ago for La Vie En Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||02/11/2013|
R 76 I agree with you about Zero Dark Thirty. I think it will sadly win nothing at the Oscars. The lovies are boycotting it.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||02/11/2013|
The Academy Awards will collapse completely if Argo wins
|by Anonymous||reply 83||02/11/2013|
[R9] Ben must have ben-tover for many reviewers because the movie ARGO is the best reviewed movie of the year.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||02/11/2013|
Dimitri Doganis, one of the guys who won a Bafta for The Imposter-who the fuck is he? Gorgeous. I bet Clooney hit on him.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||02/11/2013|
Shut your fucking arrogant mouth, R81/douchebag.
Riva won't win because a lot of voters either didn't stop to watch Amour or couldn't get through it because it's hugely depressing. La Vie En Rose and The Artist were riveting films about a legendary performer and Hollywood itself, respectively.
No argument you make will give Riva the Oscar. Use your brain and not your heart, dimwit.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||02/11/2013|
I'm not surprised Riva won the BAFTA but I don't see her winning on Oscar night. Though I'd place her in third behind Lawrence and Chastain, it would still be an upset. And Watts could spoil it for all of them. I would be pleased to see anyone other than the 9 year-old win.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||02/11/2013|
Just because they didn't watch Amour doesn't mean they won't vote for her. You really think all the Academy members vote on movies they've seen?
It could be because she's the oldest, it could be because word of mouth is great, it could be because they don't want a young woman winning. Whatever, she still has a good shot..
|by Anonymous||reply 88||02/11/2013|
I think the kid will win Best Actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||02/11/2013|
r62 I thought Meryl Streep cancelled last minute due to illness and SJP subbed.
I don't get Argo or Silver Linings Playbook hype. Lincoln and Les Miz had it all over both of these mediocre films. I would even put the movie, The Sessions over Argo and SLP. It was great and should have been seen by many more.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||02/11/2013|
Aaron Taylor-Johnson should have won the BAFTA for being Hot As Fuck in Anna Karenina
|by Anonymous||reply 91||02/11/2013|
Stephen Fry's love and admiration for Sally Field was rather touching. He waxed rhapsodic about her to that preggers Scotswoman on the red carpet.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||02/11/2013|
[quote]I don't get Argo or Silver Linings Playbook hype.
Didn't see "Argo" but did see "SLP" and couldn't agree with you more, R90. "SLP" surely has to be one of the most overhyped films of the year. And as I've said here several times, Bradley Cooper has NO business being in the Best Actor category, especially not when John Hawkes was left by the wayside.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||02/11/2013|
r86, have you seen Amour? Or are you just making assumptions?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||02/11/2013|
Zero Dark Thirty is the biggest film disappointment I've had this year. I can't believe Chastain is getting so much hype for that role. Jennifer Ehle is much more memorable in her supporting turn.
It was way too long, and not particularly gripping. I think the reason it fell out of favor has nothing to do with the "controversy" (which has pretty much passed, anyway) and more to do with "emperor's new clothes." There's nothing there.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||02/11/2013|
There's no accounting for taste, R95, so I won't try to change your opinion on ZDT (and you won't change mine). My view is exactly the opposite of yours (for example, I loved Chastain's performance) but I do agree with you that Jennifer Ehle was remarkable.
You weren't captivated by ZDT so that explains why it felt long to you but I can't think of any sequences that could have been cut. It was a large, complex story that would have the screenwriter and detractor handled perfectly IMO.
The films that I found tedious and overlong this year were Les Miz and Django. Talk about "much binding in the marsh"! At least Leo di Caprio was excellent and so was Christopher Waltz. Tarantino winning a Bafta for the script has me scratching my head.
Argo wasn't particularly long but they sure padded out the story to try to give it some fake climaxes. A pleasant-enough movie but I can't believe it is being held in such high regard. It's no Dog Day Afternoon.
I haven't seen Silver Lining Playbook but will be catching up with that this week.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||02/11/2013|
Sorry - sloppy editing: lose the "would have" from the second para.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||02/11/2013|
Substitute "director" for the spell-checked "detractor". I'm not wearing my glasses so i didn't notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||02/11/2013|
Honestly, it's a weak year. Les Mis was a total joke. Life of Pi was visually stunning, but the story was often dull and forced. Zero Dark Thirty had all the promise in the world, but the first half was so muddled, it ruined the terrific second half. Lincoln felt like a well acted history book; the narrative drive was dull, even though the subject matter was interesting. Silver Linings Playbook has maybe the worst third act of any "Oscar" film I can recall. Each film had at least one fatal flaw.
Argo, to me, was the best of the bad crop. And it didn't have a major flaw. It was solid, steady. And I flat out enjoyed it more than any of the other films nominated.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||02/11/2013|
This 100th poster thinks that R99 is way too cranky about last year's crop of films. It was generally considered to be a better year than usual.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||02/11/2013|
Haha, R100. I'm not cranky at all! I just think Argo was the most complete film on the list. I really, really wanted it to be ZDT or Lincoln, but both films missed the mark for me. Silver Linings Playbook is usually something that I love, but the whole Dance Off and Bet Off were just ridiculous to me. So, that leaves Argo, which I think is a smart, capable film.
My favorite films of the year is Perks of Being a Wallflower, Amour, and Safety Not Guaranteed fwiw...
|by Anonymous||reply 101||02/11/2013|
Argo had cheesey third act problems as well, R100. With Iranian security officers staying on one end of a ringing trying to reach a vacant office on a studio lot for what seemed like 10 minutes. Yeah, right. Same Iranian security chasing a departing plane down a runway...for what? Totally stupid. Giving all the credit for the mission's success to the American CIA agent, rather than the Canadian diplomats who risked their lives for our countrymen? Guess that didn't leave a bad taste in your mouth? The filmmakers went to great lengths to say this was a true story except, of course, where it wasn't.
Argo fuck yourself, indeed.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||02/12/2013|
I didn't mind the cheesy aspects of Argo Act III, they seemed perfectly right for this movie which a) does not, unlike ZD30 present itself as literal historical document, and b) thematically rides between history and caper, espionage and Hollywood.
I understand the counterargument and I agree the last airport scene is very heightened and stretches belief. But I don't see it as an impediment to the movie's currency, which is not exact historical verisimilitude, but telling an exciting story which, while respectful of the historical events depicted, is not a document of them, and which plays with the blurred line between genres, constantly playing wi fantastic illusion versus grim consequences.
This can't be compared to Zero Dark Thirty which is done in a documentary style, albeit an uneven one, and which blatantly presents itself as documentation of events.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||02/12/2013|
[quote] they seemed perfectly right for this movie which a) does not, unlike ZD30 present itself as literal historical document, and b) thematically rides between history and caper, espionage and Hollywood.
b) negates a).
Argo is a c)rock
|by Anonymous||reply 104||02/12/2013|
R103 said it much better than I could have, R102.
But I do appreciate your critiques against the overall efficacy of Argo. I just don't happen to agree. Or, I agree in part, but they imperfections of Argo seem minor and easy to justify or overlook when compared to the imperfections of ZDT, Lincoln and SLP.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||02/12/2013|
What is the beard thing? - Clooney, Affleck, Bardem, Cooper, Phoenix, Jackson - all with facial hair, not to mention Stephen Fry and his tres witty comment on not being the only actor to turn up with his beard ....
|by Anonymous||reply 106||02/12/2013|
All the men you list (Fry and Phoenix excluded) look very sexy with the extra facial hair, R106.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||02/12/2013|
'Zero Dark Thirty' is a film about Intelligence (capital "i") and the concentration of power in the various arms of government.
It requires an audience to have intelligence (small "i") and the power of concentration, two things in short supply in the movie-going public.
The early interrogation/torture scenes are very uncomfortable viewing but most people were more turned off by the lack of easy answers provided by the filmmakers. Moral relativism doesn't go over well in the multiplexes nor in the Academy.
To them 'Argo' is real.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||02/12/2013|
I had no problem with the squirm inducing element of the torture scenes in ZDT. I had problems with the storytelling, and by extension, the direction. It was muddled. I don't mind having to work while watching a film. In fact, I love it. But I do need some sort of payoff. I need to know that I'm not wasting my time or energy. I feel that the first half of ZDT tried too hard to make me squirm and not hard enough trying to tell a story. It was borderline arrogant. And because it was "work" getting through the first half, when the payoff didn't pan out, it turned me off as a viewer. It sullied the rest of the film, which I thought was taut, well acted, and pretty close to brilliant. The hubris of the first half ruined the greatness of the second half.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||02/12/2013|
I had problems because the use of torture was, in addition to being questionable, sensationalistic.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||02/12/2013|
Um, R110, you do realize of course that torture is used by the CIA.
To not show it would have been to lie. I just got out of the movie and it was clear that the good intelligence came from bribes and/or luck, plus dedicated people like the Chastain character. It was also pretty tame compared to the stuff we know went on at Abu Gharib.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||02/12/2013|
[quote]I can't believe Chastain is getting so much hype for that role. Jennifer Ehle is much more memorable in her supporting turn.
Because Ehle had a flashy role that was more typical of a procedural-type film. She was like the ZDT equivalent of the sassy BFF and/or gay neighbor character in a rom com.
Chastain felt more like a real person who would actually be employed by the CIA.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||02/12/2013|
I did like the bit of direction when Chastain and Ehle's character's first meet. They begin challenging each other but it doesn't become a bitchfest.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||02/12/2013|
What happend to JLaw.
A few years back she seemed so healthy and beautiful.]
]Now something seems off about her face and whole mannerisms. She comes off nervous in pics. And she is now too skinny,
|by Anonymous||reply 114||02/12/2013|
I like her and hope she wins that Oscar.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||02/12/2013|
Ehle can enliven anything as she proved with Contagion (stealing the movie from Damon, Cotillard, Paltrow, Jackson and an all star cast) and even the bathetic Possession (stealing the movie from Eckhart, Paltrow and Northam) and looking absoutely gorgeous doing so.
Hopefully, Hollywood will finally take notice and continue to embrace one of the finest stage actors of our time who also has true screen presence. Give her more to do!
Anyway, the issue isn't whether Chastain, Lawrence, and Wallis were good. They were very good. As were Weisz, Mirren and I presume many others this year including Watts, whom I have not seen.
But no one can touch Riva.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||02/18/2013|
R86 yes LVER was a traditional Oscar performance - clearly if Marion didn't win, no foreign language performance ever would again. The narrative there was that Julie Christie would win as she steamrollered over everyone UNTIL Cotillard won the BAFTAs and her breathless speech. That year the BAFTAs predicted all four winners.
Riva is a hors catégorie, but nevertheless she is touted as JLaw's competition. Some pundits like Awards Circuit are in fact predicting her. Not only does she have the quality of performance above all, but she gets oldest win - and on her birthday. Like Marion she wipes the floor with her competition and it's hard to see why they wouldn't go for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||02/23/2013|
You mean The Imposter and Sugar Man won, R85? How confusing.. I see it won Debut British Film. And yes, I looked him up and very nice.
This is the only year I've been interested in the Documentary category and I've always meant to watch more of them. The Imposter was the other one I had heard of and meant to see but I caught some others.
The Gatekeepers is alright but seems generic, it's really heavy and assumes you have a good knowledge of the subject already so will only appeal to some, just witness accounts really with the odd flashy bit and all subtitled.
The non nominated The Secret Disco Revelation is fun, camp and doesn't take itself too seriously, much like the genre itself with some surprising academic analysis. Really for fans of this, but they aren't telling you anything new and preaching to the converted.
How to Survive a Plague is a fucking revelation though, man this is powerful stuff. I had heard of this when a friend had bigged it up and boy he wasn't wrong. I have the Sugar Man Bluray which is worth it for the bonus features with the megacute director alone, which I'll watch before the Oscars start and it must be pretty fucking good to top Plague. I can see either winning now, but Sugar has the recognition and transcended its category.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||02/23/2013|
I agree R99 it seemed a pretty weak year, one only has to look at the acting category, lack of starpower and truly great performances barring a couple of ones that do stand out. Don't really see any classics either, I think Amour is the most memorable.
I also liked Argo a lot, surely noone wants that tedious shitfest Lincoln to win? I don't get the hatred toward Affleck. So he's a shit actor but look at the turn around - a decade ago he was touching J-Lo's ass in her "Jenny From the Block" video.
I didn't like his acting, but I like him as a director, or maybe his films rather - Gone Baby Gone was a great debut, The Town was very solid and this one was his most ambitious yet. Plus his BAFTA speech was very heartfelt about how he had been given a second act. I'm surprised that Beasts director got in instead of him.
I saw Reds the other day and it struck me he was kinda like Warren - dull wooden pretty boy actor but with hidden depth. Affleck's films have more of a popcorn side to them and are more about entertainment than the intelligence of Beatty's but I dunno, films also weren't as dumbed down then. The fact he's also compared to Clint Eastwood must mean he's doing something right.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||02/23/2013|
Emmanuelle Riva and JLT just won a Cesar last night (French Oscar). 'Amour' was best film, Haneke best director.
Hoping for a repeat on sunday!
|by Anonymous||reply 120||02/23/2013|