British or Down Under actors in American films
Why so many? They often just play American characters. Are they supposed to be more professional or something? Work cheaper?
Here's just a partial list: Nicole Kidman; Naomi Watts; Jude Law; Russell Crowe; Emily Blunt; Minnie Driver; Keira Knightley; Toni Collette; Thandie Newton; Robert Pattinson; Hugh Jackman; Guy Pearce; Mel Gibson; Daniel Craig; Liam Hemsworth...
You see what I mean? They almost dominate the industry.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/05/2014|
Because, in comparison to many American actors, they can actually act.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||02/10/2013|
They get much better training than young American actors.
Young American actors think that all they have to do is get a nose job and go to LA, where they'll be able to "learn on the job".
|by Anonymous||reply 2||02/10/2013|
[quote]You see what I mean? They almost dominate the industry.
I agree. I'm so sick of this stupid UK/Irish/Aussie shit in every goddamn American film.
R1 & R1 = Bullshit. Did you not read OP's list? Half the people on that list are shitty actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/10/2013|
They're much better actors with much stronger training.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/10/2013|
And, as you chaps say, they're much hotter.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||02/10/2013|
American actors are often chosen on looks alone. Which means they often aren't talented actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/10/2013|
Be your star! Be your star! I'm new at this but gosh I'm pretty and lots of important people really like me.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||02/10/2013|
I have no problem with foreign talent coming to the US if they actually settle here and become apart of American society in exchange for getting so much work in America. What bothers me is when they come over here solely for work and then act so annoyed at having to be in the US.
Nicole Kidman and Mel Gibson shouldn't be on the OP's list considering they're both American born and hold dual citizenship with the US and Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/11/2013|
get OVER yourself, R10. you couldn't act yourself out of a paper bag!
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/11/2013|
R11, at what point in that post did I claim I could act myself "out of a paper bag"?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/11/2013|
then you should shut the fuck up about it!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/11/2013|
It's just a matter of corporate movie-making. It's often part of the financing, too: more money can be raised on bankable names.
And the Brits act better and they're cheaper. Some of them anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/11/2013|
R13, the whole purpose of this site is for people to share their opinions dear, calm down.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/11/2013|
The average American thinks Brits are "classy" and Aussies are charmingly rugged and unique. These perceived qualities covers for any deficiencies they may have in the acting department.
There are thousands of Aussie actors in Hollywood because their home industry is completely fucked. Not sure what the British excuse is.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/11/2013|
They let too many British actors into America, it is true. Why don't they place more restrictions on them? They take jobs away from Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/11/2013|
God. You all sound awful! Hissing at each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/11/2013|
The film industry no larger has borders, it just comes down to who the director wants, regardless of nationality. Les Miserables for example was a British film and had British, American and Australian actors in it, all playing French people.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/11/2013|
thank God we have British actors and actresses in our movies. as noted above, they can actually act. they are trained, and not just in 'improvisation.' they've acted the classics. which means they can actually think their way through a scrip and find motivation for their character. american actors, so many of them, are just fucking stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/11/2013|
I think it's a myth that British/Aussie actors are better trained. That may been the case once upon a time, since so many started out in theater. But the younger crop has not done much, if any, theater, let alone go to school for drama. People just like to put down Americans, no matter the circumstances.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/11/2013|
Why do you think that is R21?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/11/2013|
Brits and Aussies do what they're told and work like professionals. To them, it's a job, not a lifestyle. Americans chick hissy fits and won't do this and won't do that, running off to their trailers and refusing to perform until they get their own way.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/11/2013|
R19, yeah! The film industry should bring back those borders that stopped the likes of Pola Negri, Ramon Navarro, Greta Garbo, Cary Grant, Audrey Hepburn, Marlene Dietrich, Bela Lugosi... (and don't get me started on directors and screenplay authors!)...
OP and quite a few posters on this thread are sounding a lot like Tea Partiers ranting against wetbacks and Canadians. Are you lot being serious???
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/11/2013|
It's just that Hollywood dominates worldwide filmmaking.
Every actor in the world dreams of making it big here.
Of course we end up suctioning up the talent in the English-speaking world (with perhaps the exception of South Asia).
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/11/2013|
op you forget Cate Blanchett.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/11/2013|
And Sam Neil, Geoffrey Rush, Anna Paquin, Hugo Weaving, Eric Bana, Simon Baker, Rose Byrne, Ryan Kwanten, Julian McMahn, Sam Worthington, Rachael Griffiths, Olivia Newton-John, Judy Davis, Paul Hogan, Alan Dale, Rebel Wilson and Rod Taylor to name just a few...
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/11/2013|
Movies are an international business now more than ever. The studios are part of international media conglomerates. Filming takes place in whatever country will be cheap and convenient. The studios are chasing international as well as domestic audiences, which is helped by casting internationally instead of restricting casting to one country.
[quote] What bothers me is when they come over here solely for work and then act so annoyed at having to be in the US.
Most people would have some misgivings about feeling career pressures to relocate to an industry town in another country with another culture. If the media business ends up centering in Beijing or someplace else in the future American actors will have some misgivings about moving too. Plenty of American actors already voice some frustrations about being away from home in other countries for shooting purposes (where they have went solely for work) and talk about strains the travel of the acting lifestyle puts on them and their relationships.
I don't normally see international actors complain much about America or Hollywood anyway. Plenty of them have had a lot of nice things to say about America and kept any comments about Hollywood quite diplomatic. I've seen more criticism of Hollywood and its practices and attitudes from American actors actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/11/2013|
[quote]they can actually act. they are trained, and not just in 'improvisation.' they've acted the classics.
I actually agree. Many actually went to school specifically for acting whereas the likes of Cruise, Robertson and Will Smith either fucked their way with looks, nepotism or sheer luck to get into movies. Hollywood is too much into pretty faces and some dumbass will say "this rapper/model/pop singer" is hot right now, let's put him in pictures" when he has visible acting talent or training. Hence we have these celebrities in our movies playing themselves over and over again instead of actors doing roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||02/11/2013|
If you're serious, you're an idiot, OP.
Europeans MADE Hollywood. They've always been a part of it, alongside Americans etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/11/2013|
As others have said, these guys have often been to drama school, and are mostly down to earth and professional. They don't put on airs and expect the rest of the crew to treat them like gods.
Actors like Judy Dench, Judy Davis, Cate Blanchett, Hugo Weaving and Richard Roxburgh are also very experienced stage actors.
Those actors who never went to drama school, usually have had a lot of TV or stage experience before they hit Hollywood (Eric Bana, Guy Pearce).
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/11/2013|
[quote[has visible acting talent
Should be NO visible acting talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/11/2013|
[quote] Actors like Judy Dench
It's JUDI, you fucker!
Now get me a chai tea and warm your hands. My bunions need a going over.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/11/2013|
Give me any movie with
Toni Collette, Guy Pearce, Ben Mendelsohn, Jacki Weaver
Tom Hiddleston, Kate Winslet, Judi Dench and and and
Christoph Waltz, Javier Bardem, Marion Cotillard
I am automatically interested.
Give me a movie with
Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck, Scarlett Johannson or Tom Cruise
in it and I get bored stiff.
Not that american actors are not good but the good ones
PSH, William Macey, John Goodman ... and and and usually don't become A-Listers. I also find a lot of foreign movies much more thought provoking, daring, intelligent and challenging.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/11/2013|
The Irish always had a foot in the entertainment industry as entertainers. Most Aussies are of Irish extraction and chavish Brits.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||02/11/2013|
I don't think the Brits can act any better than the US actors,it depends on the movies you go to, but are the US actors allowed to act in the British films? susan mooney
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/03/2014|
What about British Down Low actors in American films?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/04/2014|
They make it so much easier for me to have an interesting show.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/04/2014|
Did you mean ENGLISH (from England) actors? Or BRITISH (from the UK)actors? If the latter, then all of the Scots, Irish and Welsh actors working in Yank films have been overlooked, such as:
Scots: Butler, McGregor, Bannan, Capaldi, Coltrane, Connery, MacDonald, Hannah, McAvoy, Scott, Tennant, Williamson, Conti
Irish: Farrell, Brosnan, Rhys Meyers, Neeson, Branagh, Byrne, Gambon, Rea, Meany
Welsh: Burton, Hopkins, Bale, Pryce, Zeta-Jones, Sheen, Milland, Griffith, Jones, Dalton
More Aussies: Joel Edgerton, Jacki Weaver, Anthony LaPaglia
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/04/2014|
[all posts by childish idiot removed]
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/04/2014|
Nothing is worse than an American actor doing a shitty British accent. The only actors on OP's list that I really like are Jude Law, Guy Pearce and Daniel Craig. I can't remember if Law or Craig have done American accents but Pearce was phenomenal in Mildred Pierce.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/04/2014|
I've had enough of Brits and Aussies taking film roles from American actors (and no I'm not an actor). Why don't they make movies in their own shitty countries?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/04/2014|
On OP list there are only 3 that are decent--Guy Pierce Daniel Craig Toni Collette
But there are plenty of other Australians and actors from the UK who are very fine actors.
They are trained better and are smarter and unlike here, it takes more than being pretty.
I mean come on, Ewan McGregor (who is pretty cute I will admit) or musclehead wooden actor Liam Hemsworth--oh my bad, he is Australian, right? Well, substitute Stallone or Lautner or some other muscle freako.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/04/2014|
Oh no, r35! Not chavish Brits!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/04/2014|
UK actors are allowed special visa to work on U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/04/2014|
It's time this phase of hollyweird comes to a close. The last 10 years have been horrendous. I'm not anti-Brit or anti-Aussie at all, but it's absurd that there are no big-budget movies these days without 1 of them. That remake of "The Great Gatsby" is probably the biggest example, and it was complete shit.
It's not like all these Brit and Aussie actors coming in are any better looking or more talented; most of them are just as average looking and talented, if not worse off than the American ones.
If hollyweird wants to keep going international, let's bring in other countries not just UK and OZ.
A lot of these actors can't do an American accent any better than an American doing a British accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/04/2014|
R39 - The Republic of Ireland is not part of Great Britain.
You're mixing up actors from Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/04/2014|
[quote]Irish and Scottish people don't call themselves Brits. Neither do the Welsh.
Except for the people from the Republic of Ireland, to all of them I say: Tough shit.
The Northern Irish (like Liam Neeson), the Scots and the Welsh ARE all Brits.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/04/2014|
[quote]Nothing is worse than an American actor doing a shitty British accent.
Except a British actor doing a shitty American accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/04/2014|
R48 - your orange panties are showing.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/04/2014|
Actually, I thought his accent in Celebrity was worse, r49. As was his feeble attempt to imitate Woody Allen.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/05/2014|
I've been dabbling in acting for a couple of years now. Classes, local theatre, acting coach, indie films. I think I'm pretty good. I've been thinking about going over to the UK to see if I can land some work; as an experiment. If they turn me down then I know that they're discriminating.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/05/2014|
They are better-trained actors. Others probably already said this upthread, several times, but I'll say it again.
Also, they can do accents really well - especially the Australian actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/05/2014|
oh please not all of them are even trained. Alex Pettyfer anyone? not only are his looks greatly overrated (he's not hot) but the bitch can't act.
Let's not pretend all these UK and OZ guys are all as good and hot as Hugh Jackman. I have no problem with Jackman's hollyweird success. The problem is most of them are just average in looks and talent. He's an exception.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/05/2014|
Has there ever been a really good performance by an American actor portraying an Australian? Was Meryl's performance considered good? Seem Aussies can usually do a pretty decent American accent but I would bet any American doing an Aussie accent would be cringe worthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/05/2014|
I take Kate Winslet and Ben Mendelson anytime over Brangelina, Depp, DiCaprio and Co. Most American AListers are shit actors beyond believe.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/05/2014|
[quote]Has there ever been a really good performance by an American actor portraying an Australian?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/05/2014|
Streep's the dingo ate my byyyyybeee accent sounded like a Yank putting on an Aussie accent. Can also hear the Aussie when Collette or Pearce fake Yank. It's especially prevalent in their a's and o's and general speech pattern. Liev Schreiber does a pretty decent Aussie accent, but he's probably heavily coached by his missus.
Best fake accent I've ever heard was Scots actress Kelly Macdonald in No Country for Old Men. She had the advantage of a southern accent as cover, but was still amazingly convincing considering she has quite a pronounced Glaswegian accent in normal speech.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/05/2014|
Most Australians are not of Irish ,chav british descent you fool
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/05/2014|
About 70% of Australia's population are of Anglo-Celtic heritage. The chavs of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales with a few Manx and Cornish bunged in. Who else but those with nothing to lose would shlep half way round the world looking for a better life. And the UK remains the leading source of immigrants to Oz.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/05/2014|
What's her name from Mad Men / West Wing did a reasonable job of a kiwi accent in Top of the Lake - but still not perfect.
The Australian accent is allegedly "lazy" in the sense that it doesn't require any harsh throat or mouth actions - everything is relaxed. Aussie actors are more easily able to mimic other accents because of this, and others struggle to do a convincing Australian accent because they can't undo the rigid requirements of their own accents. Or so I've been told.
I guess needing a sponsored visa means foreign actors are more likely to behave on set - if they don't shape up, they'll have to go home.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/05/2014|