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Cops are thugs, and need to be disarmed

In their pursuit of a fugitive ex-cop, at least seven officers opened fire on what turned out to be a mother and daughter delivering newspapers on a quiet residential street, law enforcement sources told The Times.

It was "a tragic misinterpretation" by officers working under "incredible tension," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said Friday in an interview with The Times.

Margie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were the victims.[...] around 5 a.m. Thursday in Torrance, police from nearby El Segundo saw a pickup truck exit a freeway and head in the general direction of the Redbeam Avenue residence of a high-ranking Los Angeles police official, which was being guarded by a group of LAPD officers.

A radio call indicated that the truck matched the description of Dorner's gray Nissan Titan.

As the vehicle approached the house, officers opened fire, unloading a barrage of bullets into the back of the truck. When the shooting stopped, they quickly realized their mistake. The truck was not a Nissan Titan, but a Toyota Tacoma. The color wasn't gray, but aqua blue. And it wasn't Dorner inside the truck, but Carranza and her mother delivering copies of the Los Angeles Times.[...]

"How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large, black male?" said Richard Goo, 62, who counted five bullet holes in the entryway to his house.

Glen T. Jonas, the attorney representing the women, said the police officers gave "no commands, no instructions and no opportunity to surrender" before opening fire. He described a terrifying encounter in which the pair were in the early part of their delivery route through several South Bay communities. Hernandez was in the back seat handing papers to her daughter, who was driving. Carranza would briefly slow the truck to throw papers on driveways and front walks.

As bullets tore through the cabin, the two women "covered their faces and huddled down," Jonas said. "They felt like it was going on forever."

Hernandez was shot twice in her back and is expected to recover. Her daughter escaped with only minor wounds from broken glass.

by Anonymousreply 7512/10/2014

Huh, R9?

by Anonymousreply 1002/11/2013

And in a perfect Libertarian society, people would police themselves, and crime would magically disappear.

(rolls eyes)

Please, do continue with your circle jerk.

by Anonymousreply 1102/11/2013

[quote]If you understood liberty, your head would explode.

That explains quite a bit about your pathetic attempts to explain the bizarre alternate Libertarian universe.

by Anonymousreply 1302/11/2013

Funny how the Libertarian Idiot Troll(TM)'s kneejerk hatred of cops is only exceeded by his kneejerk hatred of Paul Krugman.

by Anonymousreply 1903/11/2013

R21: because obsessively posting the same repeatedly-disproven bullshit over & over & over & over & over again a. doesn't make it true; b. is annoying? Just a hunch.

by Anonymousreply 2303/12/2013

Test

by Anonymousreply 2807/08/2013

Cops suck. They are just government enforcers.

by Anonymousreply 3307/28/2013

[quote]Maybe they just think you're an obsessive-compulsive, brain-damaged idiot.

Bingo, R35. It always seems to escape this guy that it's possible to, e.g., oppose the Patriot Act and yet still think he's a paranoid, ignorant, and genuinely moronic loon.

by Anonymousreply 3607/28/2013

Dear R49: I'm beyond touched and honored that you'd continue this fine tradition. Spam away!

by Anonymousreply 4903/18/2014

Dear R49, too long, didn't read.

by Anonymousreply 5003/18/2014

R49-

Please seek professional psychological help. Please.

by Anonymousreply 5103/18/2014

[bold]One more time for Lew Rockwell![/bold]

Waitress: Morning!

Man: Well, what've you got?

Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and fascism; egg bacon and fascism; egg bacon sausage and fascism; fascism bacon sausage and fascism; fascism egg fascism fascism bacon and fascism; fascism sausage fascism fascism bacon fascism tomato and fascism;

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism...

Waitress: ...fascism fascism fascism egg and fascism; fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism baked beans fascism fascism fascism...

Vikings: Fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism!

Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and fascism.

Wife: Have you got anything without fascism?

Waitress: Well, there's fascism egg sausage and fascism, that's not got much fascism in it.

Wife: I don't want ANY fascism!

Man: Why can't she have egg bacon fascism and sausage?

Wife: THAT'S got fascism in it!

Man: Hasn't got as much fascism in it as fascism egg sausage and fascism, has it?

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism... (Crescendo through next few lines...)

Wife: Could you do the egg bacon fascism and sausage without the fascism then?

Waitress: Urgghh!

Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like fascism!

Vikings: Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up!

Vikings: Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon fascism and sausage without the fascism.

Wife: I don't like fascism!

Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your fascism. I love it. I'm having fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism beaked beans fascism fascism fascism and fascism!

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism. Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.

Man: Well could I have her fascism instead of the baked beans then?

Waitress: You mean fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism... (but it is too late and the Vikings drown her words)

Vikings: (Singing elaborately...) Fascism fascism fascism fascism. Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism! Fascism spa-a-a-a-a-am fascism spa-a-a-a-a-am fascism. Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Fascism fascism fascism fascism!

by Anonymousreply 5203/19/2014

R53-

Are you in a mental institution?

You sound deranged!

by Anonymousreply 5303/20/2014

David and Connie Johnson were asleep when they heard a noise Connie later described as the “walls caving in.” Seconds later their front door was forced open and two armored strangers burst into the two-room apartment the middle-aged couple share with their adult son, Aaron.

Several other assailants were clustered behind the two who had forced open the door. One of them was a female holding a leash that barely restrained a large, snarling dog. One of the intruders pointed as assault rifle at David’s head and threatened to shoot him. Another invader, a female, bellowed, “Put your hands up! This dog will bite you!”

David was seized and shackled. Connie and Aaron were also dragged from their home. Neighbors who were drawn by the commotion poked their heads out and were ordered to go back into their rooms.

At no point in this encounter did the intruders identify themselves as police officers.

Two minutes later, the SWAT team that had terrorized the Johnsons arrested the Johnsons’ neighbor, Bill Gerst, who had been accused by a woman of threatening her. Gerst was forced to crawl on his belly toward the officers in order to be handcuffed.

“What’s going on?” Gerst repeatedly asked, plaintively explaining that there was nobody else in his apartment.

Gerst persisted in trying to find out why the cops had laid siege to his home.

“You shut your mouth!” one of the raiders snapped.

The police later told the Johnsons that they were dealing with a “homicide in progress.” No firearm, and no evidence of any criminal activity, was found during the February 21, 2013 raid.

by Anonymousreply 5403/28/2014

CONT

According to a lawsuit filed by the Johnson family, “The information used to justify the no-warrant raid on Mr. Gerst’s apartment was shaky and legally suspect.” Specifically, it was a hearsay allegation made by someone who knew a woman named Hilda Valle, who is described in the suit as “a petty criminal who had reported to police that she had argued with Mr. Gerst and that he had threatened her with violence.”

At the request of the neighboring Nampa Police Department, which received the tip, a tactical team from the Caldwell Police Department conducted what they call a “welfare check” that was actually a guns-drawn, no-knock, SWAT-style raid. The Caldwell PD claimed knowledge of “the presence of guns at the premises” – which, according to the standard “threat matrix,” supposedly justifies a paramilitary assault.

Although the officers claim they were dealing with a “homicide in progress,” Police audio of the incident documents that the officers didn’t know the specific apartment number – which means that the door-kick on the Johnsons’ home – which could easily have resulted in a homicide — was the product of a whimsical guess.

Gerst is a young black man. The police had his description, but they didn’t have his address. David Johnson is a middle-aged white man. This distinction was so obvious that it wouldn’t have been missed even by the typical police officer within a few seconds of the door breach.

If the police had knocked on the door and announced their presence – as they are required to do, by law, unless there is evidence of imminent danger to an innocent person – they wouldn’t have terrorized an innocent family in a near-midnight raid, nor would they have inflicted significant and expensive damage to the property of an economically marginal household.

Furthermore, if the warrantless, no-knock raid was supposedly justified for “tactical” reasons, by hitting the wrong apartment door the cops surrendered the element of surprise.

In the legal response filed on behalf of its local enforcement caste, the City of Caldwell denies that the unlawful attack on the Johnsons’ home inflicted “damages” to their property, or violated their rights in any way. Because this near-midnight raid was carried out according to established “policies and procedures,” the City insists, the assailants are swaddled in the impenetrable cloak of “qualified immunity.”

by Anonymousreply 5503/28/2014

A police officer who kicks in an innocent person’s door unannounced is a home invader. The victim has the moral and legal right to use lethal force to protect his home against such criminal aggression – something explicitly recognized in an enlightened measure recently enacted by the State of Indiana.

“Not acceptable,” an emotional David Johnson told the Boise NBC affiliate. “Being put in handcuffs. Kicking our door in. What’s that all about. No. Not acceptable. Not acceptable.”

The Caldwell and Nampa police departments, rather than apologizing to the victims of this atrocity, are impudently insisting that there is no need to alter their policies. They want the local population to believe that it is entirely fitting and proper that police can kick in doors at midnight and terrorize entirely innocent people on the basis of hearsay, as long as they can claim the suspected presence of a firearm nearby.

After all, that’s the reason why the Nampa PD recently acquired an MRAP.

by Anonymousreply 5603/28/2014

American Fork, Utah –

When Mark Byrge had a minor traffic accident on a street in American Fork, Utah, he did the “responsible” thing by reporting the incident to the police. He has never stopped paying for that mistake.

Within a few minutes of receiving Mark’s call, a pair of American Fork cops arrived to document the damage to Byrge’s delivery truck from a collision with a tree branch that protruded into the street. Mark was cooperative – and he put up no resistance when the lead officer, Andres Gianfelice, placed him under arrest for an outstanding traffic ticket (as well as citing him for not providing proof of insurance).

Byrge submitted without complaint to his officially sanctioned abduction, including the demeaning injury of being shackled. He politely made a single request of his captors: Owing to several back surgeries and the implantation of a $50,000 Spinal Cord Stimulator (SCS), Mark asked that the officers cuff him in front.

While explaining his condition, Mark very slowly and carefully lifted his shirt in order to display an iPod-sized rectangular lump in his lower right back.

Neither Mark’s cooperation nor his explanation made an impression on Gianfelice.

“Don’t tell me how to do my job – put your hands behind your back!” barked Gianfelice, instructing his trainee officer, Jennifer Nakai, to apply the cuffs. Before being shackled, Mark called his wife Tina to tell her he was being arrested.

He didn’t disconnect the call – which means that Tina was able to hear everything that would happen over the next several minutes.

Despite the fact that he was obviously in pain, Mark placed his hands behind his back. Local resident Bob Cardon, on whose property the untrimmed tree was located, expressed concern over Mark’s treatment.

by Anonymousreply 5703/28/2014

CONT

“Do you really have to handcuff him that way?” the elderly man asked the officers.

“Shut up, or you’ll be put in the car next to him,” snarled Gianfelice.

After Mark was stuffed into the back seat of Gianfelice’s cruiser, he leaned away from the cuffs, attempting to prevent any damage to the expensive medical appliance embedded in his back.

Ignoring Mark’s protests, Gianfelice shoved him against the seat to buckle his seat belt. As that happened, Mark later recalled, “I could actually feel it [the stimulator] breaking.”

“You stupid son of a bitch,” Mark gasped, “you just wrecked my back.” He didn’t know at the time that Tina was listening to this exchange over an open phone line.

Tardily realizing that he had made a terrible mistake, Gianfelice relented and used a “belly chain” to cuff Mark in the front. This allowed the officer to claim in his official report that he had “accommodated” Mark – but by that time irreparable damage had already been done.

The SCS was designed to send electrical impulses along Mark’s spine in order to neutralize pain receptors. This allowed him to ramp down his dosages of narcotic prescription pain medications. This, in turn, is what made it possible for him to run his courier delivery business, which required both the physical capacity to load and unload cargo, and the mental acuity to drive his truck and fill out paperwork. Without the stimulator, Mark would either be too crippled to lift, or too doped-up to focus.

Subsequent medical scans of his stimulator documented that it went inactive on April 18, 2012 – the day that Officer Gianfelice, after arrogantly dismissing Mark’s entirely reasonable request to be cuffed in the front, shoved him against the rear seat of his police cruiser.

As Gianfelice pulled away from the scene of the accident, Mark informed the officer that he needed to be taken to a hospital, and he eventually convinced the officer that the jail wouldn’t admit him without hospital clearance. When they arrived at the hospital, Gianfelice parked about fifty yards away – significantly, in one of the few spots concealed from security cameras.

by Anonymousreply 5803/28/2014

CONT

By this time, Mark’s right leg was already convulsing – a tell-tale indication that the SCS had malfunctioned. Gianfelice dragged Mark out of the cruiser by his right arm and began walking him toward the hospital entrance. Mark’s right leg had seized up and was refusing to cooperate with his own wishes, let alone the demands of his captor. In his subsequent report, the officer claimed that Mark began “pulling” and “jerking” away from him.

The officer didn’t explain why a handcuffed man who was in obvious pain and who had asked to be taken to the hospital would “resist” being escorted to the emergency room. Nonetheless, in short order, Mark found himself face-down in the dirt of a nearby flower bed with Gianfelice on top of him, shouting the shared refrain of police and rapists: “Stop resisting! Stop resisting!”

“I’m not resisting – get off my back!” pleaded Mark. Indeed, given his physical condition, Mark didn’t have the ability to resist.

Gianfelice claims that the crippled, handcuffed man somehow managed to drag the two of them down to the ground. Mark reports that the officer threw him down and to the right. However they wound up on the ground, the officer – knowing that Mark had a back injury – drove his knee into Mark’s lower back, placing his entire body weight on the fragile and expensive piece of hardware embedded under Mark’s skin.

This incident was witnessed over the open phone line by Mark’s wife, Tina.

Officers Gianfelice and Nakai pulled Mark to his feet and escorted him into the emergency room. Once inside, Mark gasped out a complaint to the first nurse he saw:

“This officer just assaulted me. Please call for a third party officer to investigate.”

The nurse, who was legally obligated to report on an assault against a“vulnerable adult,” ignored Mark’s request. The officer responded by “check-punching” the handcuffed victim in the chest.

“What the hell are you doing?” Mark exclaimed, his patience long since exhausted. “Let me f****ng go!”

“Don’t use that kind of language!” snapped the nurse, suddenly alert to matters of decorum after being torpidly indifferent to the violence inflicted on Mark.

Gianfelice cited Mark for “disorderly conduct,” listing the offended nurse as a witness. Predictably, his report didn’t mention his act of criminal battery against the handcuffed victim. That crime, however, was documented by the emergency room’s security camera. Significantly, Gianfelice did not charge Mark with “resisting arrest.”

This was the only video record made of the encounter between Mark Byrge and the American Fork PD – despite the fact that the department takes extravagant pride in the fact that all 33 of its patrol officers are “wired” with VidCam units.

by Anonymousreply 5903/28/2014

CONT

“The American Fork Police Department claims to be the first law enforcement agency in the country to outfit all of its officers with video cameras and microphones pinned to their uniform,” reported the Salt Lake Tribune in November 2007.

“We’ve been waiting. We’ve been looking for something like this to document the good work that police officers do,” explained Lt. Sam Liddiard.

Last October, Lt. Liddiard told KSL news that “any time an officer deals with someone, they’re required to be recording.” He offered unqualified praise for the video recording technology, insisting that the record usually cleared officers accused of abuse.

There were three wired officers involved in the encounter with Mark Byrge – Gianfelice and his trainee, Nakai, and their supervisor, Sgt. James Bevard. The officers either suffered an inexplicable simultaneous failure of their VidCam units, or they didn’t bother to activate them. Nor was a dashcam recording made by either of the police vehicles on the scene.

Shortly before Mark was assaulted by Gianfelice, he had visited a local clinic to have his SCS calibrated. He went back to the clinic following the assault and was told that the leads connecting the device to his spine had shifted, rendering it useless. The device had stopped functioning on the morning of April 18 – while he was in the custody of the American Fork Police.

Since that incident, “the patient’s pain as gotten worse and his right leg is now showing signs of possible Complex Regional Pain Syndrome,” observed Gary Child of the Utah Pain Relief Center in April 2013. CRPS is a serious degenerative condition that has left Mark unable to work – and is rapidly depriving him of the ability to walk.

Mark is a 43-year-old former football player and wrestler with a compact, muscular build and low center of gravity. He walks with the assistance of a cane as his right leg atrophies. Dark striations are inscribed in his right foot, ankle, and shin. His toes are splayed at wild angles owing to involuntary muscle contractions and spasms that convulse his right leg without warning or relief.

His body slowing cutting off circulation to his lower extremity “as if it is trying to break off my foot,” Mark explained to me. CRP Syndrome can lead to other severe complications, including major organ failure.

“There’s a good chance that this could be what kills me,” Mark predicts.

It should be recalled that Mark was entirely cooperative in his dealings with the American Fork Police Department. As Gianfelice admitted in his report, he had the option of cuffing Mark in the front, rather than wrenching his arms behind his back. Why was he so intransigent?

Mark points out that Gianfelice was accompanied by a trainee officer, which “always creates a temptation to show off, be a hard case, and put the citizen in his place.” An officer will be especially prone to strut and show off when the trainee is an attractive blonde female, like Officer Nakai.

Prior to the arrest, Mark and Gianfelice did exchange words. While the officer was taking photos of the accident, Mark suggested that he get a few of the protruding tree branch, which should have been clipped by a city maintenance crew.

“You sound like someone who doesn’t want to accept responsibility,” hectored the officer.

“Well, you sound like a city employee who’s worried about financial liability,” Mark replied.

The officer responded by ordering Mark into the cab of his truck – before ordering him out to arrest him.

As Mark attempted, unsuccessfully, to recover from the trauma inflicted on him by Officer Gianfelice, he filed complaints with the American Fork Police Department. He collected witness statements from several people who had been on the scene, as well as his wife and brother, who had overheard the incident over the open cell phone connection. He assembled statements from health care professionals about the damage done to him by Gianfelice’s assault. When the AFPD didn’t respond, Mark took his evidence to the Utah County Sheriff’s Office.

by Anonymousreply 6003/28/2014

CONT

Mark’s persistence didn’t endear him to AFPD Chief Lance Call.

“You’ve run to every agency on the Wasatch Front,” groused Call when Mark contacted him to demand that action be takenr against Gianfelice. “I already investigated it – and I cleared the officer.”

“You didn’t talk to any of the witnesses or review any of my evidence,” Mark plaintively replied. “How can you `clear’ him just by reviewing his side of the story?”

“I told you `no’!” Call responded, hanging up.

“After this happened, I called the mayor’s office, even though it was after five o’clock,” Mark recounted to me. “I left him a message describing what Call said, and why I needed him to support an honest investigation.”

Unexpectedly, Mark received a reply the first thing the following morning.

“The mayor called at about 8:00 and left a message on my answering machine, telling me that he was going to have the Utah County Attorney’s Office conduct an investigation,” Mark relates. “The fact that this literally happened the first thing the morning after my call indicates that the mayor and other officials had been discussing what to do about my case.”

Before the county attorney’s office began its inquiry, Mark received another official visit from the AFPD.

“An American Fork officer showed up at our door – a really big guy I hadn’t seen before,” Mark attests.

“I’m here to tell you that if you pursue this it will not go well for you,” the officer growled at Mark, taking care to cover his badge with one hand.

“What’s your name?” Mark asked. “Are you threatening me?”

“You should just know that this isn’t going to go well for you,” the officer said, ignoring Mark’s question and turning to leave.

The official inquiry, which was conducted by Sgt. Scott R. Finch of the Utah County Sheriff’s Office, was the typical preordained exercise in validation. In his interview with Finch, Gianfelice repeatedly claimed that he “could not recall,” “could not remember,” or “could not recall from memory” several critical details of the incident.

Among the matters that eluded the memory of this trained observer was whether “he was shown anything that would indicate Mr. Byrge had a back injury”; whether “he or someone else did the handcuffing of Mr. Byrge”; whether “he handcuffed Mr. Byrge in front initially or if he was cuffed behind his back at first”; or if “any other citizens [were] present or approached them at the scene of the accident.” He offered the unqualified statement that Mark “did not complain of injury when they were on the scene.”

Two witnesses one the scene – Bob Cardon and Jason Wilde – testified that Mark complained of his back injury. This was confirmed by two witnesses who overheard the encounter via cell phone.

In his initial statement to Sgt. Finch, Gianfelice claimed that “he will evaluate or estimate a person’s flexibility and size and help them out by handcuffing them in front” and that he told Mark “he had a belly chain and he would allow Mr. Byrge to be cuffed in front.”

by Anonymousreply 6103/28/2014

Cont

After Finch provided Gianfelice with a copy of his report “to refresh his memory,” the officer changed his original story, admitting that he did initially cuff Mark behind his back before transferring the cuffs to the front. This is the crux of the issue: Gianfelice ignored Mark’s pleas to cuff him in front until after the damage had been done, then he lied about doing so during the subsequent investigation. He did this despite clear and detailed warnings about what this would do to the victim.

In the original reports from Gianfelice and Nakai, Mark was described as “not combative.” In their revised versions, he was described as “out of control, angry, loud, and yelling.” Significantly, in her initial account of the “scuffle” at the hospital, in which Gianfelice wound up with his knee in Mark’s back, Nakai said she “was not sure what caused Mr. Byrge to fall” because “she was on the other side of the car” – yet despite the fact that she didn’t see what happened she insisted that this was caused by “Mr Berge jerking his arms away and he lost his balance.” She conceded that Gianfelice might have used a “touch-push” to deal with a supposedly uncooperative detainee.

Despite these abundant and crucial self-contradictions, Finch pronounced the expected benediction on his fellow officers, concluding that “After conducting this investigation I believe the officers’ actions were legal and responsible.”

Charged with “disorderly conduct,” Mark – who was forced to represent himself — attempted to obtain sworn statements from officers Gianfelice and Nakai.

“Sgt. Finch said that this wouldn’t be necessary, because they were sworn officers already under oath,” Mark informed me. “But all of my witnesses were required to make sworn statements under penalty of perjury. And then when I attempted to enter the officers’ statements as evidence in my trial, I was told that they weren’t admissible, because they hadn’t been made under oath. So I was deprived of any opportunity to demonstrate that the officers had contradicted themselves – which meant that I had no defense.”

Fully disabled and unable to make a living, Mark is pursuing a civil rights case against the AFPD. He is also a candidate for the Utah State Legislature.

“My campaign is going to focus entirely on abuse of power by public officials, especially the police,” Mark told me. “I’m in constant pain, and my body is literally devouring itself. I want to do anything I can to prevent this from happening to somebody else.”

Meanwhile, the assailant who left Mark an invalid, Andres Gianfelice, is receiving a salary of $83,682 a year as part of a 33-officer force patrolling a city of 21,000 people with a negligible violent crime rate. Officer Nakai, one year after finishing her probationary term, is drawing an annual salary of $63,932 – a pretty decent rate of compensation for a job open to anybody with a GED and a capacity for casual sadism.

by Anonymousreply 6203/28/2014

Projection is such an ugly trait, R54.

Waitress: Morning!

Man: Well, what've you got?

Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and fascism; egg bacon and fascism; egg bacon sausage and fascism; fascism bacon sausage and fascism; fascism egg fascism fascism bacon and fascism; fascism sausage fascism fascism bacon fascism tomato and fascism;

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism...

Waitress: ...fascism fascism fascism egg and fascism; fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism baked beans fascism fascism fascism...

Vikings: Fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism!

Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and fascism.

Wife: Have you got anything without fascism?

Waitress: Well, there's fascism egg sausage and fascism, that's not got much fascism in it.

Wife: I don't want ANY fascism!

Man: Why can't she have egg bacon fascism and sausage?

Wife: THAT'S got fascism in it!

Man: Hasn't got as much fascism in it as fascism egg sausage and fascism, has it?

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism... (Crescendo through next few lines...)

Wife: Could you do the egg bacon fascism and sausage without the fascism then?

Waitress: Urgghh!

Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like fascism!

Vikings: Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up!

Vikings: Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon fascism and sausage without the fascism.

Wife: I don't like fascism!

Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your fascism. I love it. I'm having fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism beaked beans fascism fascism fascism and fascism!

Vikings: Fascism fascism fascism fascism. Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism!

Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.

Man: Well could I have her fascism instead of the baked beans then?

Waitress: You mean fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism fascism... (but it is too late and the Vikings drown her words)

Vikings: (Singing elaborately...) Fascism fascism fascism fascism. Lovely fascism! Wonderful fascism! Fascism spa-a-a-a-a-am fascism spa-a-a-a-a-am fascism. Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Lovely fascism! Fascism fascism fascism fascism!

by Anonymousreply 6303/28/2014

R64-

Since you can't refute the police aggression you post nonsense. Classy!

by Anonymousreply 6403/29/2014

I was on the phone with my cousin as she was driving home and she told there was a wreck ahead- a few dozen cars were stopped, but kept inching along.

As she got closer (at 430pm) it turns out they were checking to see if people had seat belts and headlights and working brake lights.

Cops are thugs.

by Anonymousreply 6504/25/2014

Cops=thugs.

by Anonymousreply 6604/25/2014

“When they put the handcuffs on I thought, `Wait a minute, this has got to be a joke,’” recalled Latoya Harris, describing the arrest of her 9-year-old daughter last May. “The look on my daughter’s face went from humiliation and fear, to a look of sheer panic.”

At the time, the girl was wearing a bathing suit and a towel, still damp from running through a neighborhood sprinkler. She was taken away in handcuffs by officers David McCarthy and Matthew Huspek, fingerprinted, photographed, but never charged with a crime. She was held at police headquarters for an hour before her frantic mother — who didn’t have a car — could retrieve the girl from her captors.

The stated purpose of the visit was to investigate a playground fight that had taken place a few days earlier. The actual purpose of the arrest was probably to serve some depraved impulse on the part of the officers to assert their supposed authority over an intimidated but uncooperative child.

According to the Oregonian newspaper, Officer McCarthy — who, like others in his disreputable profession, fancies himself a mentalist of sorts — believed that the child wasn’t telling the truth in her account of the scuffle. His report characterized her statements as “vague,” and recalled that he observed her “breathing speed up,” an entirely appropriate response to the unwelcome presence of an armed and bellicose stranger.

“They repeatedly asked her, `Why don’t you tell me what really happened?” recalls the mother. The officers hauled her away on suspicion of fourth-degree assault. They refused to allow the mother to accompany the daughter in the back of the police car.

“In my opinion, they were trying to scare and humiliate her,” Harris said in testimony before the independent Citizens Review Committee. “All they had to do was give her a talking to. We’re talking about two grown men in uniform with guns.”

This act of gratuitous official sadism was — let’s recite it together — done in accordance with policy, according to department spokesman Sgt. Pete Simpson. Handcuffing a nine-year-old is “justified” as a “safeguard,” Simpson asserted.

The Portland PD, which is under scrutiny by the Justice Department (for whatever good that would do), is notable for the tender solicitude its officers display toward vulnerable children. During a presidential visit by George W. Bush in 2002, police assigned to keep protesters caged in “free speech zones” unleashed a pepper spray fusillade against demonstrators who wandered beyond their pens. Among the victims was Don Joughin, who had brought his wife and three children to the event.

After the Jackboots had subjected the protesters to a caustic shower, Joughin turned to a Portland PD officer obstructing an exit and asked how he and his family could leave.

“He pointed and said to exit to the [northeast], into the spraying police opposite him,” Joughin recalled. Trapped between a panicked crowd and pepper spray-wielding assailants, Joughin pleaded with the officer to allow his family to pass.

“He looked at me, and drew out his can from his hip and sprayed directly at me,” testifies Joughin. His three-year-old son caught most of the blast. The Berserker then turned on Joughin’s wife and newborn son “and doused both of their heads entirely from a distance of less than three feet,” he recounts.

Reeling from the fumes and frantic to get help for his screaming child, Joughin tried to leave — only to find his family’s escape blocked at every turn by armored bullies who closed ranks and cut them off. The victims weren’t allowed to leave until someone in “authority” issued an order.

As Joughin and his family fled, one of the cops hurled a “Collateral Murder”-style taunt at their back: “That’s why you shouldn’t bring kids to protests.”

Actually, that episode, like the vicious abduction of Latoya Harris’s daughter, demonstrates why parents should cultivate within their children an incurable distrust of the state’s Punitive Priesthood — and must never, under any circumstances, allow such people to have access to their children.

12:16 pm on May 7, 2014 Email William Norman Grigg

by Anonymousreply 6705/08/2014

VIDEO: Citizen pulls cop over for "driving an illegal vehicle"

A man filmed himself flagging over a police officer for driving an unmarked vehicle in Grant County, Washington. While the officer takes a defensive attitude when being asked for his ID, the citizen continues to assert his civil authority until the officer complies. The video has stirred up some controversy, and amassed over 1.1 million views in the past few days. Take a look below.

by Anonymousreply 6810/21/2014

Awesome, R68

by Anonymousreply 6910/22/2014

R68-

When you see a pig harassing a mundane, take video.

Cops HATE the fact that the Supreme Court ruled videotape of cops on duty was legal, and encouraged.

Fuck cops. They are evil, sick thugs.

by Anonymousreply 7010/22/2014

The people that love and defend the cops need to STFU.

by Anonymousreply 7112/09/2014

Cops need to be arrested for murders they commit. They need to be arrested for assaults. They need to be punished, just like anyone else.

by Anonymousreply 7212/09/2014

R72-

Read Ron Paul. And Rothbard.

Seek out William Norman Grigg.

Then you will understand why the government goes after the "little guys" and protects the big corps.

Or just stay ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 7312/09/2014

Bump!

Maybe some people will see the connection between libertarianism and police homicide!!!

Our government is evil and corrupt.

by Anonymousreply 7412/10/2014
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