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Fox Network, the early years (not to be confused with Faux News)

When Fox first started up in the late 80s, they only aired original programming for a 3 hour block on Sunday nights. The main successes from that period were Married With Children, and The Tracy Ullmann Show, although the latter was only a critical, not ratings, success. It won a number of Emmys. Were there any other successful shows from that period? Chris Elliot's "Get A Life" lasted two seasons, and seemed to have a small cult following, but hasn't been seen since. Many weird Fox shows came and went quickly at the time, including a nuclear holocaust sitcom that only lasted an episode or two. Considered one of the most bizarre and worst sitcoms ever.

by Anonymousreply 5802/05/2013

The Simpsons, which was a spinoff from Tracy Ullman.

by Anonymousreply 102/03/2013

The Simpsons and Married With Children both propelled Fox back then.

by Anonymousreply 202/03/2013

I loved early FOX. 21 Jumpstreet was a popular show at least in terms of awareness. I don't think it had big numbers. But FOX was very savvy at the time somewhat like the CW now with marketing. FOX sent their actors on mall tours.

by Anonymousreply 302/03/2013

Right the Simpsons, I knew I must be forgetting something. And they did start pretty early, '89. "Get A Life" started after that.

I intended this thread to reminisce for anyone who watched that Sunday night block, even the weird shows that failed. The only other shows I can remember are Babes, a one season fat girl sitcom. The Charmings, an failed attempt at Bewitched type sitcom. The critics massacred that one. And some sort of sitcom set in a women's prison.

by Anonymousreply 402/03/2013

Here's the wiki page for the nuclear holocaust sitcom, Woops. It lasted 10 episodes, I thought they pulled it immediately. I do remember seeing it a few times, I'd watch any of their weird crap.

by Anonymousreply 502/03/2013

I loved "Stand," the REM theme song to "Get a Life," from their LP "Green," which was orange.

My favorite early Fox show was "Parker Lewis Can't Lose."

I didn't like Johnny Depp any more in "21 Jump Street" than I liked him in anything that came afterwards. I would not have picked him out as a future superstar.

by Anonymousreply 602/03/2013

I never would have picked Johnny Depp as a future film superstar either. I used to watch 21 Jump Street and thought he was rather nondescript and 'rough around the edges.'

by Anonymousreply 702/03/2013

Wasn't there one called "Herbert's Head", or something like that? I think I was 7 when that aired...

by Anonymousreply 802/03/2013

I remember "Duet" and its spinoff "Open House", which featured Ellen DeGeneres.

by Anonymousreply 902/03/2013

Johnny Jumpstreet looked like he needed a bath.

by Anonymousreply 1002/03/2013

I loved the Tracey Ullman show.

by Anonymousreply 1102/03/2013

I didn't like Depp in 21 Jump Street or anything else, but I watched the show to see an actors named Richard Grieco. He was so incredibly beautiful at that time. His looks did not hold up very well, and he looks a lot like Tom Jones now. That is not bad at all, but he is just not as extremely pretty as he was in his youth. Can't imagine why his career went almost nowhere, when someone as unattractive and untalented as Depp became a superstar. Must just be a matter of sucking the right dicks.

by Anonymousreply 1202/03/2013

Herman's Head, R8

Yeardley Smith was in it.

The gal has a stee-range voice.

by Anonymousreply 1302/03/2013

'Open House' was the first time I remember seeing Ellen Degeneres. She played the receptionist at the real estate office, and as soon as I saw her I knew she was a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 1402/03/2013

Herman's Head lasted three seasons!

by Anonymousreply 1502/03/2013

This is the theme to Garry's show, the theme to Garry's show, Garry called me up and asked if I would write his theme song.....

It was actually a Showtime show, but Fox showed the reruns in primetime. Loved it.

by Anonymousreply 1602/03/2013

Here's the '87-'88 schedule. Duet was one of the earliest shows, I probably saw it but have no memory of it. It lasted 3 seasons. I do remember Herman's Head, it was watchable but the premise wore out fairly quickly.

'87-'88 schedule:

by Anonymousreply 1702/03/2013

Wasnt In Living Color on FOX?

by Anonymousreply 1802/03/2013

I used to love Duets - Chris Lemmon was gorgeous.

And I thought Allison LaPlaca was hilarious - I was sure she was going to have a big future, but not really.

by Anonymousreply 1902/03/2013

Yes, R18. Here's Men on Fitness, which I dedicate tonight to Proud Masculine Douche.

by Anonymousreply 2002/03/2013

Duet was about a couple starting a relationship. It was rather good as I recall. Mary Page Keller and Matthew Laurance starred.

by Anonymousreply 2102/03/2013

WHET Alison LaPlaca?

I too was sure she would be a big star.

by Anonymousreply 2202/03/2013

R22 - Don't know. I loved her on Duet.

by Anonymousreply 2302/03/2013

Wasn't Matthew Perry on one of the early shows?

by Anonymousreply 2402/03/2013

WHET to Alison Laplaca? She got a lot of hype back then.

by Anonymousreply 2502/03/2013

R24, Perry was on "Second Chance" which was later retooled into "Boys Will Be Boys". Even then I could tell he would have a nice career ahead of him.

I loved "Duets" (later "Open House"), "Women in Prison", "The Adventures of Beans Baxter". I don't know how later down the line it was but "Eerie, Indiana" was another good one.

by Anonymousreply 2602/03/2013

"Roc", starring Charles S. Dutton. I remember when they did an entire season live.

by Anonymousreply 2702/03/2013

There was that Werewolf show with Edward C Scott, I loved that one as a kid. Very dark from what I remember.

by Anonymousreply 2802/03/2013

In Living Color was brilliant.

I loved The X Files, too, but that was in the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 2902/03/2013

Joan Rivers got her talk show from Early Fox - which Arsenio Hall finsihed up after she got the boot. I forget the name of the show but they had one with a puppet where Bobcat Goldwaith was the voice of the puppet. Don't forget x files as well.

by Anonymousreply 3002/03/2013

Anybody else remember "Women in Prison" with DL fave Wendy Jo Sperber?

by Anonymousreply 3102/03/2013

Yes I remember it, I've just been reading about it since r26 gave us the title. Looks like a good cast, Peggy Cass and CC Pounder too. One of the main characters was a lesbian hooker, although the actress that played her seems to have disappeared. She's the only one who doesn't have a wiki page.

by Anonymousreply 3202/03/2013

I kind of liked "Herman's Head"

by Anonymousreply 3302/03/2013

R30, the show you're talking about was called "Unhappily Ever After" and it came on in the mid-late 90s on the fledgling WB network. I think it was created by the creators of "Married With Children" and it was sort of a spin-off/evolution of that idea. The lead couple was exploring being newly divorced after an unhappy marriage. Instead of a dumb, sexy daughter and a smart, geeky son-like "Married With Children"- this show featured a smart, sexy daughter and a dumb, geeky son.

by Anonymousreply 3402/03/2013

Philip Charles Mackenzie? The gay guy from "Brothers"? Weren't he and LaPlaca spun off from Duet into Open House, then into oblivion?

by Anonymousreply 3502/03/2013

"Stand By Your Man" with Rosie O'Donnell and Melissa Gilbert as the wives of two conviced bank robbers. They get an apartment together near the prison so they can visit their husbands more often.

by Anonymousreply 3602/03/2013

I think Patty Duke had a show. Something called Karen's Song? I usually watched it for Cops and America's Most Wanted.

by Anonymousreply 3702/03/2013

That one sounded made-up r36, but here it is. Lasted 8 episodes in 1992.

by Anonymousreply 3802/03/2013

Eerie, Indiana was an NBC show.

by Anonymousreply 3902/03/2013

[quote]One of the main characters was a lesbian hooker, although the actress that played her seems to have disappeared

I had no idea one of the characters was a lesbian. I guess as a kid I never picked up on that.

by Anonymousreply 4002/03/2013

The wiki page doesn't mention it either r40, but I found a reference to it elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 4102/03/2013

[quote]I remember "Duet" and its spinoff "Open House", which featured Ellen DeGeneres.

Ellen DeGeneres as the man-crazy receptionist...

by Anonymousreply 4202/03/2013


by Anonymousreply 4302/03/2013

Was 'Action' -- the show about a Hollywood (actor?) and the hooker who gave him career/script advice on Fox?

by Anonymousreply 4402/03/2013

Someone spill the beans on Duchovny. I heard pron before he was on Fox.

Truth? Rumor? Total Fiction?

by Anonymousreply 4502/04/2013

i remember the Charmings. David Hyde Pierce was great in it, I knew he had potential.

by Anonymousreply 4602/04/2013

The Charmings was actually on ABC or something though, it just seemed like a Fox show. It was probably the gayest role Paul Winfield ever had, as the catty talking mirror. Are you sure David Hyde Pierce was in it though? I just checked imdb and it's not showing up in his credits, and no mention of him on the show's wiki page.

by Anonymousreply 4702/04/2013

Gosh, HERMAN'S HEAD -- talk about a blast from the past! I remember seeing an episode where they all somehow end up in a nudist retreat and they're forced to face each other and scrutinize each other's body. Yeardley Smith and Hank Azaria were paired up and she said to him, "I knew you had one, but I didn't realize it was so big!" She was talking about his tattoo. I was 11 at the time and thought they were really naked even though they didn't show anything. I was very attracted to William Ragsdale and was jealous of the blonde chick he was paired up with. haha

by Anonymousreply 4802/04/2013

Flying Blind with Tea Leoni and that dark haired guy who dated Melissa on thirtysomething. I think it was on in 92 - lasted one season. Tea played a super cool New Yorker and the dark haired guy was a dweeb and of course they started dating.

by Anonymousreply 4902/04/2013

Wasn't Christopher Rich (Reba's husband on "Reba"; Miller Redfield on "Murphy Brown") the husband on "The Charmings"?

by Anonymousreply 5002/04/2013

I remember Herman's Head and Duet. Fun shows.

Also, Parker Lewis Can't Lose which was kind of a rip of the Ferris Bueller movie. There were some cute guys on that show --- although it didn't start until '92 which might be later than the OP asked about.

by Anonymousreply 5102/04/2013

PARKER LEWIS started in 1990.

by Anonymousreply 5202/04/2013

The Charmings was a Friday night ABC show. I know because I was in love with the husband prince.

by Anonymousreply 5302/04/2013

R47, the only "porn" with Duchovny was Showtime's Red Shoes Diaries. It was as soft-core anthology but the pilot was a two hour movie with Duchovny and Sherilyn Fenn IIRC.

by Anonymousreply 5402/04/2013

I really liked Werewolf with super hot John J York and gay Chuck Conners.

I remember the Women in Prison series - great concept and stars, but poorly executed, as were most of Fox's early sitcom efforts. Duets was pleasant but not really laugh out loud funny.

by Anonymousreply 5502/04/2013

Tracey as a dancer being twirled against her wishes svreams: "I have no panties. I'm not wearing any panties!!!"

Oh damn, Tracey Ullman just cracked me up.

by Anonymousreply 5602/04/2013

I couldn't miss Parker Lewis Can't Lose. I was maybe 10 when it started but had a total crush on the big hulking bully character. Even then, I had a type god dammit.

by Anonymousreply 5702/04/2013

Shoot Duchovny's series Californication is almost like soft porn

by Anonymousreply 5802/05/2013
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