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Anyone Else Notice Something Amiss With Pine Trees?

This winter, an eastern pine tree in my front yard suddenly turned orange. I looked around my neighborhood and noticed a lot of the eastern pines have turned orange. I've never noticed this before.

I have a pear tree in front of my bedroom window which attracts a lot of birds. I take pictures of the birds in the tree year-round. I went back through my photos and videos of my yard in winter and the eastern pine was green.

I noticed while driving on the highway that I now see more and more orange eastern pines. I wouldn't say they are brown, because to me brown trees are dead trees. These trees seem to still be alive, but maybe not for long?

I looked up eastern pine diseases, but nothing seems to fit. And this seems to be a mass thing that is going on with them right now.

by Anonymousreply 3505/09/2013

And so it begins.

by Anonymousreply 302/02/2013

" I went back through my photos and videos of my yard in winter and the eastern pine was green"

by Anonymousreply 402/02/2013

Dead. Beetles got it - they are loving the stressful weather and attacking lots and lots of trees - then a fungus moved in for the kill. You have a bit of time between the needles falling off and needing to get it taken down. But it is dead.

by Anonymousreply 502/02/2013

Does your city have an aborist in the government? I would start by calling the mayor's office, or if you are rural perhaps some farm agency--if they don't handle it they could at least point you in the right direction. There had been a problem a few years ago with oaks and maples possibly because of global warming but haven't heard the latest about this. Bees also had been suffering from some sort of epidemic of a mysterious bee disease killing whole hives and throwing food growers into a panic, but I guess they're recovering, luckily, because if there were crop failures due to no pollination by bees there could be food shortages and even famine in some parts of the world. Last summer's drought in the Midwest was bad enough--food prices are going higher now because of it.

by Anonymousreply 602/02/2013


by Anonymousreply 702/02/2013

Could be Pine Wilt. It's affected a large number of pines heremin the midwest. We had one removed from our yard last summer.

by Anonymousreply 802/02/2013

I had the same experience a couple winters ago, they are fine now.

by Anonymousreply 902/02/2013

Have they stopped screaming yet?

by Anonymousreply 1002/02/2013

It seems like pine wilt may fit the bill, but all the other pines in the area -- scotch pine, eg -- seem ok. It did seem to start from the top. The totally orange pine in my yard is right next to another eastern pine that is orange on the top, but the rest of the tree is green.

I am in the northeast. We didn't have drought. We got hit with Sandy, but no trees came down in our area. In fact, we lost a tree the year before to "lesser" hurricane Irene. Sandy affected places more south (on the ocean) and west of where I am.

The developers of my neighborhood put belts of mixed fir and pine trees in and around the development. There are more than a hundred pines and firs. Most of the eastern pines are affected -- either the entire eastern pine tree or the top of the tree. other ines and firs seem ok, but all of my dwarf English boxwood are dying back and there was widespread impatiens wilt last summer.

by Anonymousreply 1102/02/2013

PS -- don't buy dwarf English boxwoods or impatiens. They are all becoming infected with some kind of wilt/rot.

by Anonymousreply 1202/02/2013

OP, has there been a lot of snow? Sometimes the salt from salting the roads will turn the trees orange.

by Anonymousreply 1302/02/2013

I ripped out twenty plus English boxwoods and replaced with Korean boxwoods. The leaf is nicer and they are much more hardy.

Of course, I kept the still living, English, I did some bordering around some trees in semi circles etc...

by Anonymousreply 1402/02/2013

No, R13. It hasn't been snowy.

I don't live on a road. I live within the development on something called a flag lot. This is done in some areas to keep taxes low. When a housing development goes in, there are houses on the roadway and then there are houses behind those roadway houses. The homeowners of the flag lot share ownership of the long driveway that leads from the roadway down behind the road houses. The long driveway then branches off into my driveway and my next door neighbor's driveway. We are responsible for the long flag lot driveway, including snow removal. We generally either hire a guy with a pickup track to plow the drive or we use our snowblowers for lesser snowfalls. We don't use salt. Our trees are about 400 ft from the roadway which gets sanded/salted or plowed by the town.

Flag lots keep down the number of roads that need to be put in a development. It's nice to be off the roadway, it keeps the place countrified, but it's a pain in the ass during with a lot of deep snowstorms. It can take at least a day before someone is freed up to plow you out, since there are so many flag lots in our township. But it's good for the guys with pickup trucks.

by Anonymousreply 1502/02/2013

sounds like the trees in Colorado that have all been dying from bark beetle infestations over the last decade or so. usually in winter long cold snaps kill them off but because of elevated temperatures everything's falling to shit.

no idea if the beetles are a problem in the Northeast (yet). hopefully not.

by Anonymousreply 1602/02/2013

An article about downy mildew infecting impatiens across North America

by Anonymousreply 1702/02/2013

An article on Boxwood blight

by Anonymousreply 1802/02/2013

It's Happening!

by Anonymousreply 1902/02/2013

I noticed this, too, all over the place, and at first I thought it was trees that had been flooded by Sandy. But that's not the case, since many "orange" trees are well inland.

I'm in Nassau County (Long Island) New York.

by Anonymousreply 2002/02/2013

It depends on the species, but a lot of pines can change colour when there's been either drought or severe cold weather in the previous year. The orange colour is the precursor to "brown=dead". It wouldn't hurt to feed the roots and mulch, might save them. If it's as widespread as you say then it sounds like a reaction to weather rather than localised to your land.

by Anonymousreply 2102/02/2013

I have juniper bushes that go kind of dead at the tips of their branches sometimes, but it goes away.

by Anonymousreply 2202/02/2013

2 possible causes: disease and or insects can cause this. Warmer winters allow them to live when they normally would be controlled by cold temperatures. This is due to global warming.

The second cause can be pesticides or chemicals sprayed on the tree. One is notorious for causing the symptoms described. I can't remember the name of it.

by Anonymousreply 2302/02/2013

You're freaking me out, OP.

by Anonymousreply 2402/02/2013

I was going to type what R5 did. There is an asian beetle infestation that trees in the Americas have little resistance to.

by Anonymousreply 2502/02/2013

The pine beetle thing...they're actually tiny scale insects related to aphids...took an incredible toll in my area about 15 years ago. Stress from prolonged drought invited the little fucks to come over for lunch.

It can be treated professionally in the early stages, but it's also highly contagious and many trees ended up being removed. I spent upwards of $5,000 cutting down around 11 dead/dying Ponderosa pines at my mom's house...that helped save the remaining 8 trees. I stepped in to help her when her Nazi-like neighbors threatened to sue her.

by Anonymousreply 2602/02/2013

Overuse of Sun-In.

by Anonymousreply 2702/02/2013

Asian Pine Beetle is my guess. It's in a lot of places on the East and West Coasts.

by Anonymousreply 2802/03/2013

R20, I'm on LI too, in eastern Suffolk. I notice orange pines all along the expressway. There hasn't been any salting if the expressway this winter or last winter. Any snowfalls we've had have been light coatings. That quickly melt.

by Anonymousreply 2902/04/2013

I found out the reason for this.

It was Hurricane Sandy.

If you look at the trees, the side facing east is the most damaged/orange brown.

Some tree specialists beleve it is damage from the winds which affected the needles. Others believe it was salt water being driven inland off the ocean by the winds. Eastern white pines are sensitive to both wind and salt damage.

[quote] "Several people have commented on the number of white pines in the area with needles that have turned brown over the past several weeks. This is not the typical annual shedding of the oldest pine leaves that occurs each fall, but the result of the severe winds associated with Hurricane Sandy.

[quote] Despite the white pine leaf’s needle shape and protective coating of wax, both features designed to minimize water loss through its leaf pores (stomata), the hurricane-force winds managed to desiccate and damage the delicate needles. On some badly browned specimens, the most extensive damage is found on the east-facing sides of the trees.

[quote] It is possible that the wind damage was exacerbated by airborne particles of salt spray carried far inland by the hurricane. It is interesting to note the extent... MORE"

Unfortunately you have to be a subscriber to get the rest of the article, but you can get the gist of it.

by Anonymousreply 3003/21/2013

From a landscaping website:

Immediately after Hurricane Sandy, many evergreen & deciduous trees and shrubs have started showing brown needles on one side of the tree. This is due to the heavy continuous winds and the heavy salt content carried by the wind. Now a few weeks later the salt injury is even greater as the needles, leaves and buds have dried out and are still turning brown.

The most impacted trees and other woody plants are the non-native, non-salt tolerant specimens such as the White Pines, Spruce and Leyland Cypress. But even natives such as Pitch Pines have been impacted.

Exposure to salt spray can cause stem and foliage disfigurement, reduced growth and can often lead to a plant’s death. Recently seeded turf is more susceptible to salt damage then an existing lawn. Treating the lawn is often advisable as the roots of woody plants, especially trees, extend past the drip line and often into the lawn area.

Salt gets tied up in the top layers of the soil, where it attaches to fine particles such as clay and silt, causing damage to the surrounding plant root systems, including all woody plants, turf and other landscape material.

by Anonymousreply 3103/21/2013

According to Sandra Vultaggio of Cornell Cooperative Extension's Horticultural Diagnostic Lab, the most likely cause, they believe, is Hurricane Sandy. With little rain but very strong winds, salt spray from the surrounding Long Island waters was spread all over the island. "White pine is very susceptible to salt damage with their very thin needles."

CCE's advice is a wait-and-see plan. "They may come back next year," Vultaggio said. New buds may push out new growth next spring, but, Vultaggio noted the brown needles will probably stay on the plants all during the next growing season. "More established plants will probably do better than new plantings."

So, despite how they look, do not cut down any white pines with brown needles just yet. It is entirely possible that they will survive nicely. Give them next growing season to come back. Vultaggio added that the melting snow and rain we get from now on will help to move the salt from the storm out of the soil.

by Anonymousreply 3203/21/2013

The aliens eat pine trees.

Pine-Sol is like liquor to them! Keep it locked up.

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by Anonymousreply 3403/21/2013

I noticed the same thing here on Long Island with the Ponderosa Pines and the Eastern Pines. They are all dying and being cut down. I have yet to see a healthy one anymore. They are either dying, dead or being cut down. It has nothing to do with Hurricane Sandy. I would love to know the reason. they are such beautiful trees. I'd love to know what is happening to them.

by Anonymousreply 3505/09/2013
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