Im so sick of media hyperbole
Newsweek names HIllary Clinton the most powerful woman in American history.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||02/06/2013|
Other than maybe Eleanor Roosevelt, who else would you suggest OP?
Part of it has to do with women in general having access to more powerful jobs in the last 30 years, so in a way it is unfair to compare with women in other periods.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||02/01/2013|
Newsweek to Earth: Please read us! We will tell you anything we think you want to hear, only please start reading us again!
|by Anonymous||reply 2||02/01/2013|
Apparently you're sick of proper punctuation as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/01/2013|
I thught Newsweek was gone? It's only an online "magazine" now isn't it? I'm not disputing the claim, I love Hillary. I just wish it had come from a more prestigeous source.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||02/01/2013|
This is pathetic, she's the most powerful woman? Yet she can't even get up after she falls.
The woman has had the vapors more times than Scarlet O'Hara.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/02/2013|
Nancy Pelosi is the woman who has reached the highest office and, as Speaker, was able to take more actual action.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||02/02/2013|
Has Newsweek never heard of Kim Kardashian?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/02/2013|
[R3] AND we are all sick of YOU.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||02/02/2013|
Soon Hillary will be the most powerful woman in the world when she becomes POTUS.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||02/02/2013|
Isn't she currently unemployed? What kind of power does she have?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/02/2013|
I cutta bitch....
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/02/2013|
She'd win Florida over my dead body!
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/02/2013|
Well there have been hardly any powerful women in American history, so can you name one she wouldn't beat?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/02/2013|
HRC is bigger than Eleanor Roosevelt, and is certainly bigger than Nancy Pelosi. What other woman has been a powerful senator, a serious Presidential candidate, and Sec of State?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/02/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/02/2013|
I think we could consider the options.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/02/2013|
Oh, please, Anne. You couldn't lead a parade in your honor.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/02/2013|
No, we're sick of your Hillary-bashing, Op a.k.a. freeper plant.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/02/2013|
She is, which is why Obama chose her to represent America.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/02/2013|
I don't think it's a hyperbole at all. Love her or hate her, she's been part of the political landscape since the '70s. She's worked on McGovern's campaign, lawyer, author on the a corporate board, First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State. When a high profile person steps down from such a high position, we assume they will retire. Not with Hillary. She still has much to give.
Because of her, women running for the high office is no longer a novelty. She may not have been successful in 2008, but she certainly pave the way for other female politicians.
Who else has worn as many hats as Hillary?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/02/2013|
Powerful? Seriously? She has no power.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/02/2013|
"Who else has worn as many hats as Hillary?"
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/02/2013|
Clearly, Sandra Day O'Connor had more power than Clinton has had. As the swing vote on the Supreme Court she affected America much more than anything Clinton did as SoS.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/02/2013|
[quote]Who else has worn as many hats as Hillary?
What about ME, bitches?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/02/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/02/2013|
R23 - I don't think the Court has had as much power as a Sec of State at any given time.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/02/2013|
I am fairly certain that Constance Ford is the most powerful woman in American history.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/02/2013|
Wasn't Edith Wilson the de facto president for the last two years of Woodrow Wilson's administration? He was largely incapacitated. If there was a woman in our history who had a huge and unprecedented amount of power, albeit in a compressed amount of time, she is it.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/02/2013|
What has she done other than being Bill Clinton's wife? Can someone list her accomplishments?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||02/02/2013|
R29 - Even before Bill became President, Hillary had been a powerful; lawyer. She had been listed as one of the Top 100 lawyers.
Then there's 8 years of being Senator from NY, and 4 as Sec of State.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/02/2013|
Remember that she also spearheaded Clinton White House efforts to introduce comprehensive healthcare reform. It was a herculean undertaking that, unfortunately, didn't get results.
For the grammar queens: Should "herculean" be capitalized?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/02/2013|
r29 is an asshole who suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome.
What have you accomplished in your life r29? Have you ever been the first woman to run for President and taken a beat-down and still held your head high and then go on to become SOS?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/02/2013|
R30, There are thousands of powerful female lawyers in the U.S and many ladies have been senators. I know what Rosa Parks did to change America, I know what Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton did for women so they got the right to vote along with Lucy Stone; I know what attorneys Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington did regarding Roe v. Wade that change abortion laws in your country; I know what the women involved inTitle ix hope to achieve, the female lawyers involve in the struggle for gay equality.
Clinton's great accomplishments are ......
What has she done to beat out all of these women who change the course of American History?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/02/2013|
This is directed toward R32!
I am not an American and I don't care one way or the other about your opinion.
I seem to know more about the true female heros of your country than you do.
My other post is at R33.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/02/2013|
r34 you actually think you know more about who our public figures are than someone who is living in the US? You are delusional.
Knowing names is not the same as understanding why they are or are not important.
Well, you're not American so your opinion about our public leaders mean absolutely nothing to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||02/02/2013|
Fair enough R35, educate me on why Hillary Clinton is THE GREATEST AMERICAN WOMAN WHO EVER LIVED.
If clinton is the first name that comes to mind after repeating those seven words in block letters then you're not one of the smart Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||02/02/2013|
[quote]HIllary Clinton the most powerful woman in American history.
Not, the greatest American woman who ever lived.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||02/02/2013|
R32, She was not the first woman to run for presidential nomination that honour goes to Margaret Chase Smith a republican and later Shirley Chisholm for the democratic party.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||02/02/2013|
She's the first woman to make a competitive run at the nomination.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||02/02/2013|
Was she ever the acting president?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||02/02/2013|
Re-read the thread title r38. You will note that it does not contain following phrases:
"THE GREATEST AMERICAN WOMAN WHO EVER LIVED"
"A true female hero"
"The first woman to run for a presidential nomination"
"changed the course of American history"
You are making up things to argue against.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||02/02/2013|
r36 Why don't you look it up in the book of names you have since you seem to think you are an authority on everything about our American political leaders.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||02/02/2013|
And so begins her Presidential campaign for 2016. At least I hope.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||02/02/2013|
Some sort of Watergate attorney? That's 1973.
What was she doing:
1974-? when she left DC for Arkansas?
? -? when Clinton became Governor of Arkansas?
?-? In between his terms as Gov, where she cooled out the feminism and became a good girl
?-? His second term as Governor.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||02/02/2013|
What has she done to earn the title? Being a political superstar is not the same as THE MOST POWERFUL WOMAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||02/02/2013|
If you have an axe to grind, write newsweek, r45, you're getting repetitive. We get it, you don't like HRC.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||02/02/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 47||02/03/2013|
R32 -- the moment you post ad hominem attacks, you lose the argument.
Seriously. Try to be an adult before you post.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||02/03/2013|
It's no wonder!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||02/03/2013|
She was a staff lawyer in DC and then an attorney in Arkansas and then a wife.
Nothing to see there.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||02/03/2013|
R46 Why would I dislike Hillary Clinton?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||02/03/2013|
I'm waiting for a valid list of women in this country who have been more powerful...
|by Anonymous||reply 52||02/03/2013|
[quote]I'm waiting for a valid list of women in this country who have been more powerful...
I'm waiting for a list of her achievements pre-1992
|by Anonymous||reply 53||02/03/2013|
So, in order for her to be the most powerful woman NOW, she has to have done something prior to 20 years ago? Huh?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||02/03/2013|
Real men don't like powerful women.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||02/03/2013|
Remember when Hillary was on the list of Top 100 Attorneys in the United States? She flunked the bar twice in the North, headed to Arkansas to get her license.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||02/03/2013|
What excuse will the docs make up the next time she has a TIA?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||02/03/2013|
Yes, let's arbitrarily shift the discussion away from the extraordinary résumé she compiled since 1992 and insist that someone provide a list of her achievements from two to three decades ago. That's not pathetically transparent at all.
Who cares if a dying newsweekly posted a hyperbolic cover story? Pretending like she's not a highly accomplished and respected woman just makes you sound ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||02/03/2013|
Damn proud of my bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||02/03/2013|
[quote]Pretending like she's not a highly accomplished and respected woman just makes you sound ridiculous.
Pretending Vince Foster committed suicide makes you sound even more ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||02/03/2013|
What a perfect non sequitur, r60. It does a very efficient job of putting your stupidity and insanity on display. Have fun in the fever swamp!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||02/03/2013|
Come on R56, there's no reason to disrespect the Lady like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||02/03/2013|
r56 there's no need to "remember" as Hillary wrote about it in her memoir. Look what she's gone on to become. There are lawyers who pass on their first try and go on to nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||02/03/2013|
She hasn't done much on her own -- she's just parlayed her husband's celebrity into some sweet jobs.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||02/03/2013|
So much bullshit coming from the likes of r64. You're still using the same talking points from 2000. She fought for the Senate seat. During her tenure, she made friends across the aisle. So much so that the majority of Republicans confirmed her as SOS. She built up goodwill. As SOS, gay diplomats had equal benefits as their heterosexual counterparts.
What have you accomplished in your life r64? Posting on DL isn't exactly the greatest achievement.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||02/03/2013|
Last week, it was noted that her time as SOS was as one in the job -- she was not a power in the Cabinet. In fact, she was one on the sidelines of the Obama Administration.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||02/03/2013|
More bullshit. It never stated any such thing. It talked about Obama's reluctance to go forward with some of the suggestions by HRC and Patraeus concerning arming the rebels in Syria.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||02/03/2013|
Wasn't Elizabeth Dole the first female to run a serious Presidential campaign?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||02/03/2013|
[quote] She flunked the bar twice in the North, headed to Arkansas to get her license.
She failed the DC bar once. Nice try, though. Did you know that the one-time dean of Stanford Law School failed the CA bar first time?
Will you be requesting a copy of her transcripts now? There's precedent for this tactic, you know, as desperate birthers went down this road after proof of place of birth was furnished multiple times.
We get your formula:
black = faked place of birth and/or intellectually deficient product of Affirmative Action.
female = unimpressive in her own right, all competence, power, and recognition come from her association to her spouse (if she's not a not a lesbian).
|by Anonymous||reply 69||02/03/2013|
She was a corporate fucker at Wal-Mart. Gross Gross Gross.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||02/03/2013|
How can it be that serious if she pulled out before any of the GOP Primary due to lack of funding? She wasn't even in the race when the race began.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||02/03/2013|
Obama has ordered the FBI to close the case on the search for Hillary's DNA in Janet's jock strap.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||02/03/2013|
Me so smart Me hate whatever you like Real world bad Me so smart
|by Anonymous||reply 73||02/03/2013|
Of course, the freepers will give Elizabeth Dole a break. After all, her abilities and accomplishments, unlike Hillary's, were decidedly not the result of her association with Bob Dole.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||02/03/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||02/04/2013|
Depends on what the meaning of "powerfrul" is. ;-) Hillary has had no power solely her own, without a superior.
Rosa Parks, defying the power structure.
Sojourner Truth, speaking truth to power.
Sacajawea, Native American, the only woman on U.S. currency.
These are women who made America re-think its entire set of social mores.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||02/04/2013|
Please give it a rest, anti-Hillary troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||02/04/2013|
Excepting Rosa Parks, most Americans don't know who those women are. And I shudder to say, I'm afraid the majority probably couldn't answer off the bat about Mrs. Parks.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||02/04/2013|
Probably true, r78, but I hope Newsweek would consider our entire history.
P.S. I hope to vote for HRC in 2016, r77.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||02/04/2013|
Clinton's great accomplishments are ......
1. Burma relations
2. She was a GREAT boss. She is beloved by the ordinary workers at the State Dept. Her greatest accomplishment was very inside- she made lasting changes to the State Dept bureaucracy.
3. Diplomacy: She was a USA promotion machine.
4. Economic Statecraft: She believed helping American business overseas should be a major part of US foreign policy
5. She let President Obama take the lead and never complained (and this after a contentious primary campaign). (even when she didn't fully agree- see Syria)
|by Anonymous||reply 80||02/04/2013|
Clinton's endurance is legendary. She maintained a punishing 18-plus-hour-a-day schedule on her weeklong swing from Libya to Central and South Asia. At the end of her day in New York City last September, with its endless one-on-one meetings, public appearances and forums, Clinton sat down in a closed session with the 27 E.U. Foreign Ministers and listened as each aired opinions on U.S. foreign policy. Even as glazed looks settled over her staff, Clinton retained an easy and relaxed demeanor, speaking off the cuff and calmly responding to bitter criticism of the U.S.'s veto threat against a vote on Palestinian statehood.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||02/04/2013|
Not saying she was a bad SoS, saying only that had she not married a President, Ms. Rodham would have never seen the inside of the State Department.
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|by Anonymous||reply 83||02/04/2013|
Neither r80 nor r81 address the topic.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||02/05/2013|
This is a joke, right?
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|by Anonymous||reply 86||02/06/2013|