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Cardinal Mahoney has been removed from duties because of his cover-up of pedophilia scandals

Lo have the mighty fallen!

by Anonymousreply 4103/09/2013

It's about time. That criminal should be behind bars.

by Anonymousreply 102/01/2013


by Anonymousreply 202/01/2013

About F-in Time. There is a god.

by Anonymousreply 302/01/2013

Getting to play wth little boy's dicklets is the only perk of being a priest. Geez you lot, cut them some slack will you?

by Anonymousreply 402/01/2013


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by Anonymousreply 602/01/2013

R5 he was the longtime Cardinal of the L.A. archdiocese and has been proven to be key in knowing about and moving around pervert priests.

by Anonymousreply 702/01/2013

But what will happen to the child sex trade industry?

by Anonymousreply 802/01/2013

But what will they do with all of the autographed bottles of wine for sale in the cathedral gift shop?

by Anonymousreply 902/01/2013

Micheal Jackson was not the inventor of Jesus juice.

by Anonymousreply 1002/01/2013

Link or it's just wishful thinking.

by Anonymousreply 1102/01/2013

Here ya go.

by Anonymousreply 1202/01/2013

He can always live in a splendid apartment in Rome just like Cardinal Law of Boston.

by Anonymousreply 1302/01/2013

What exactly is a cardinal?

by Anonymousreply 1402/01/2013

A cardinal is a princess of the church. Cardinals get to wear red dresses.

by Anonymousreply 1502/01/2013

So they canned a retired guy as punishment?


"The files released Thursday contained additional evidence of attempts by Curry and Mahony to stymie police investigations."

I love the word "stymie."

by Anonymousreply 1602/01/2013

I assume none of the obstruction of justice/cover up matter will come to justice due to a statute of limitations.

by Anonymousreply 1702/01/2013

"removed from duties" hmmmmmm.....not exactly:

[quote]An archdiocese spokesman, Tod Tamberg, said that beyond canceling his confirmation schedule, Mahony's day-to-day life as a retired priest would be largely unchanged. He resides at a North Hollywood parish, and Tamberg said he would remain a "priest in good standing." He can continue to celebrate Mass and will be eligible to vote for pope until he turns 80 two years from now, Tamberg said.

by Anonymousreply 1802/01/2013

" I wish Cotton was a monkey."

by Anonymousreply 1902/01/2013

[quote]A cardinal is a princess of the church. Cardinals get to wear red dresses.

'The' church, or 'a' church?

by Anonymousreply 2002/01/2013

[quote]proven to be key in knowing about and moving around pervert priests.

proven to be key in knowing about, [bold]protecting from the law,[/bold] and moving around pervert priests.

by Anonymousreply 2102/01/2013

R20, it was obvious from the context that he was referring to the Catholic church.

It's also common for people to refer to the LDS church or the Episcopal church as 'the church' when the particular church is known by context. Saying "A cardinal is a princess of a church" wouldn't make much sense because only one church has cardinals.

by Anonymousreply 2202/01/2013

R17 - apparently it's possible that he could get charged with perjury for some of the things he said under oath regarding the sex abuse scandal.

by Anonymousreply 2302/01/2013

It will be interesting to see if he gets called to Rome for some newly created job to get him out of the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 2402/01/2013

Until the pope is in the dock, I won't be happy.

I'm serious.

That evil bastard and all his swishing minions need to be cell block queens in a real prison.

by Anonymousreply 2502/01/2013

Is he the head of one church, all the churches? Is there only one cardinal per country?

by Anonymousreply 2602/01/2013

For R26:

[bold]Cardinals There are 18 U.S. Cardinals

5 Cardinals currently lead U.S. archdioceses[/bold]

Cardinal Daniel DiNardo - Galveston-Houston Cardinal Francis George - Chicago Cardinal Sean O'Malley - Boston Cardinal Justin Rigali - Philadelphia Cardinal Donald Wuerl - Washington

[bold]4 U.S. Cardinals are not currently diocesan bishops[/bold]

Cardinal Raymond L. Burke - Prefect, Apostolic Signatura Cardinal John P. Foley - Grand Master of the Knights of the Holy Sepulcher Cardinal Bernard F. Law - Archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica, Rome Cardinal William J. Levada - Prefect, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

[bold]9 U.S Cardinals are retired[/bold]

Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua - Archbishop Emeritus of Philadelphia Cardinal William Baum - Major Penitentiary Emeritus Cardinal Edward Egan - Archbishop Emeritus of New York Cardinal William Keeler - Archbishop Emeritus of Baltimore Cardinal Roger Mahony - Archbishop Emeritus of Los Angeles Cardinal Adam Maida - Archbishop Emeritus of Detroit Cardinal Theodore McCarrick - Archbishop Emeritus of Washington Cardinal James Stafford - Major Penitentiary Emeritus Cardinal Edmund Szoka - Former President, Pontifical Commission for Vatican City

by Anonymousreply 2702/01/2013

Mahony says he wasn't equipped to handle priest abuse

By Los Angeles Times Staff | 3:17 p.m.

Saying he did all he could to protect children, Cardinal Mahony responds to L.A. Archbishop Gomez's decision to relieve him of all public duties over his mishandling of sex abuse cases.

Mahony's removal not enough, critics say

Lopez: How can Mahony still be 'in good standing'?

Rebuke of Mahony casts long shadow across archdiocese

by Anonymousreply 2802/01/2013

What do we do for cigarette money now?

by Anonymousreply 2902/01/2013

Mahoney is still on the board of three councils at the Vatican. This "removed from duties" is meaningless.

by Anonymousreply 3002/01/2013

Back in the day he opposed Mother Angelica of the EWTN television network. He tried to take control away from her and punishing her for daring to speak out against a letter he wrote.

Mother Angelica,now paralyzed with strokes must be chuckling deep inside!

by Anonymousreply 3102/01/2013

Priest files reveal disturbing stories of child molestation, coverup

February 2, 2013 | 8:19 am

More disturbing stories of priests' molestations of children -- and questionable actions by church leaders -- emerged in 12,000 pages of once-confidential personnel files.

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles posted the documents on its website Thursday night, an hour after a Los Angeles judge ended 5-1/2 years of legal wrangling over the release of the files with an order compelling the church to make the documents public within three weeks.

Victims, their lawyers, reporters and other members of the public spent hours Friday poring through records that stretched back to the 1940s and provided details about the scope of abuse in church ranks never before seen.

The archdiocese of Los Angeles learned in the late 1970s that one of its priests had sexually assaulted a 16-year-old boy so violently that he was left bleeding and "in a state of shock." The priest said he was too drunk to remember what happened and officials took no further action.

But two decades later, word reached Cardinal Roger M. Mahony that the same priest was molesting again and improperly performing the sacrament of confession on his victim. The archdiocese sprang to action: It dispatched investigators, interviewed a raft of witnesses and discussed the harshest of all church penalties — not for the abuse but for the violation of church law.

"Given the seriousness of this abuse of the sacrament of penance … it is your responsibility to formally declare the existence of the excommunication and then refer the matter to Rome," one cleric told Mahony in a memo.

The case of Father Jose Ugarte is one of several instances detailed in newly released records in which archdiocese officials displayed outrage over a priest's ecclesiastical missteps while doing little for the victims of his sexual abuse.

The files also suggested that the attempts to protect abusers from law enforcement extended beyond the L.A. archdiocese to a Catholic order tasked with rehabilitating abusers.

"Once more, we ask you to PLEASE DESTROY THESE PAGES AND ANY OTHER MATERIAL YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM US," the acting director of the order's treatment program wrote to Mahony in 1988 in a letter detailing therapists' reports about a prolific molester. "This is stated for your own and our legal protection."

The order, the Servants of the Paraclete, closed the New Mexico facility where many Los Angeles priests were sent amid a flood of lawsuits in the mid-1990s. A lawyer for the order declined to comment, but indicated in a 2011 civil court filing that all treatment records were destroyed.

Mahony disregarded the order's advice, and therapy memos are among the most detailed records in the files.

One evaluation recounts how Father Joseph Pina, an East L.A. parish priest, said he was attracted to a victim, an eighth-grade girl, when he saw her in a costume.

"She dressed as Snow White … I had a crush on Snow White, so I started to open myself up to her," he told the psychologist. In a report sent to a top Mahony aide, the psychologist expressed concern the abuse was never reported to authorities.

"All so very sad," Mahony wrote years later after Pina was placed on leave. He was defrocked in 2006.

The limitations of the treatment at the Servants' center are evident in the file. After months of therapy in 1994, Father John Dawson was allowed to leave the facility for a weekend. Among the first things Dawson, who had been accused of plying altar boy victims with pot and beer, did was apply for a job at the Arizona Boys School in Phoenix.

Treatment center staff found out only after the school phoned Dawson to arrange an interview. "Had they not called the Villa, it is doubtful that Fr. Dawson would have informed us of that job application and interview," according to a 1994 letter to Mahony's vicar for clergy, Msgr. Timothy Dyer.


by Anonymousreply 3202/02/2013

Treatment center staff found out only after the school phoned Dawson to arrange an interview. "Had they not called the Villa, it is doubtful that Fr. Dawson would have informed us of that job application and interview," according to a 1994 letter to Mahony's vicar for clergy, Msgr. Timothy Dyer.

Responding to a public rebuke by his successor, Mahony insisted Friday that he tried his best to deal with the priest molestation scandal but fell short because not enough was known about the problem early in his career.

In an extraordinary open letter to Archbishop Jose Gomez, Mahony insisted Friday that he ultimately instituted state-of-the-art protections against child sexual abuse within the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles. He seemed to suggest that Gomez had acted unfairly by publicly announcing that he was stripping the cardinal of any public role in the local church.

"Not once over these past years did you ever raise any questions about our policies, practices or procedures in dealing with the problem of clergy sexual misconduct involving minors," he wrote.

PHOTOS: Cardinal Roger Mahony over the years

"Unfortunately, I cannot return now to the 1980s and reverse actions and decisions made then," he added. "But when I retired as the active archbishop, I handed over to you an archdiocese that was second to none in protecting children and youth."

Mahony posted the letter on his blog Friday afternoon, hours after he said he had sent it to Gomez.

In a letter Thursday to parishioners, Gomez announced that "effective immediately, I have informed Cardinal Mahony that he will no longer have any administrative or public duties." The move came a week after the release of church records showing Mahony worked to conceal abusers from police in the 1980s.

by Anonymousreply 3302/02/2013

A sudden fall for Cardinal Mahony's former right-hand man

As church files revealed this week, Msgr. Thomas J. Curry, the regional bishop in Santa Barbara, chose again and again to conceal clerics' crimes and put priests' welfare ahead of helping victims.

SANTA BARBARA — When he took office in 1985, Roger M. Mahony set about modernizing the operations of the Los Angeles Archdiocese. He brought in computers and put women in top jobs.

He then appointed an Irish-born academic to a brand-new cabinet position: Vicar for Clergy, a human resources director of sorts for priests, brothers and nuns. Msgr. Thomas J. Curry would shape the way the nation's largest archdiocese responded to claims that its priests had molested and raped children.

In his five years in the role, Curry was a staunch defender of the church and its clergymen. And as revealed in secret church records made public this week, he chose again and again to conceal clerics' crimes from police and put priests' welfare ahead of helping victims.

On Thursday, as his former boss was publicly rebuked, the 70-year-old regional bishop in Santa Barbara stepped down, part of an unprecedented reaction by the Catholic Church to the clergy child abuse scandal. It was a stunning fall for a man who had acted as a right hand for one of the most powerful U.S. Catholic prelates.


by Anonymousreply 3402/02/2013

Yesterday's LA Daily News had a report from St Charles Borromeo Church where Mahoney still periodically officiates, and one of the parishioners had this little gem to say:

[quote]"It's OK, so far. It's all good. He's retired anyway, so it doesn't matter."

Ugh. Just blindly following along.

by Anonymousreply 3502/02/2013

This is why religion is so vile and dangerous. People can commit any crime while wearing a cleric's robe and remain unpunished by common law.

Common people are told they go to hell when they do bad stuff (thou shall not lie!). Where, I wonder, do these pedophile priests and the ones who cover for them go and why the fuck aren't they afraid of going to hell?

Creeps and jerks invented these kind of jobs with power and came up with the religion concept to be above all common folk so they can do what they want without any real fear of having to suffer the consequences for their actions.

by Anonymousreply 3602/02/2013

Mahony's welcoming of illegals into Los Angeles means he can get hard more often looking at hot Mexican teens.

by Anonymousreply 3702/03/2013

Any organization with only men in leadership positions is generally rife with sexual abuse, violence, fraud, greed, deceit, lack of compassion and concern, and every other horrors you can imagine. All male hierarchies are detrimental to the well being of others and must be dismantled everywhere. I find it hard to believe you'd be able to find as many women willing to enable and cover up the systematic child abuse of thousands of children by the church, and engage in fraudulent, harassing and illegal actions to evade legal persecution.

by Anonymousreply 3802/03/2013

I think it should be noted that the church is packed with victim cultures given power.

by Anonymousreply 3902/03/2013

[quote]Mahony's welcoming of illegals into Los Angeles means he can get hard more often looking at hot Mexican teens.

One priest, confronted by a mother about what he had done to her son, reminded her that she was an illegal alien, and if she didn't shut up, he would have her deported.

by Anonymousreply 4003/09/2013

His sister, Breathless, must be so embarrassed.

by Anonymousreply 4103/09/2013
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