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PM David Cameron Is Putting The EU On The Ballot In 2015

Will the Brits be yay or nay?

by Anonymousreply 2001/30/2013

Isn't the UK already in the EU? What are you talking about?

by Anonymousreply 101/29/2013

The majority of UKers want out. It has become a busybody fascist regime. Thank God they kept the pound instead of the doomed euro.

by Anonymousreply 201/29/2013

Yes, the UK is in the EU, the referendum will decide whether or not it stays in the EU.

by Anonymousreply 301/29/2013

Cameron is running scared of the UKIP. They are a right wing party that's rising in the polls. Some of their members make the Tea Party seem practically open minded in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 401/29/2013

Why does the UK like to pretend they aren't a part of Europe? What fucking continent do they think they belong to? It's so amusing.

by Anonymousreply 501/29/2013

The UK is trashing Obama daily after it was reported that O warned Cameron against leaving the EU.

by Anonymousreply 601/29/2013

The Brits don't have the guts to get out.

by Anonymousreply 701/29/2013

R5 they think they are too good for the EU, truth is they aren't. And my bf's dad supports the UKIP posts racist shit in Facebook but claims he isn't racist.

by Anonymousreply 801/29/2013

Looks like Thatcher was right about something afterall. Turns out that joining the EU was not too wise for the Brits.

by Anonymousreply 901/29/2013

Racist, R8?

Wanting to be free of the dictatorial power of Brussels is racist?

by Anonymousreply 1001/29/2013

Ugly face of UKIP: Sunday Mirror exposes racist and homophobic views of party members

12 Jan 2013 21:00 Official online “members ­forum” used to ­express extremist and offensive opinions on gay marriage and paedophilia

The UK Independence Party has surged to a record high in the opinion polls under its brash leader Nigel Farage.

But a Sunday Mirror investigation today reveals a sickening catalogue of racist and homophobic views held by some of its biggest supporters.

They use the party’s official online “members ­forum” to ­express extremist and offensive opinions on issues ranging from gay marriage to bogus links between ­homosexuals and ­paedophilia.

Their outbursts are exposed as the party gears up against both the Tories and Labour in next year’s European elections, with its flagship policy that Britain should pull out of the EU.

On the forum, senior UKIP member Dr Julia Gasper branded gay rights a “lunatic’s charter” and claimed some homosexuals prefer sex with animals. She added: “As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.”

The former parliamentary candidate and UKIP branch chairman in Oxford now faces the sack over her comments.

Tackled about her remarks yesterday, she said: “I’m not going to talk about them. It’s none of your business.”

Lecturer Dr Gasper is just one of many UKIP members who use the forum to vent their controversial views.

A concerned party insider passed on a selection of the shocking outbursts to the Sunday Mirror.

UKIP member Jan Zolyniak posted: “The evidence is quite clear that the percentage of homosexuals who molest children is very high and cannot be dismissed.”

Approached outside his bungalow in Surrey yesterday, Mr Zolyniak claimed his comments were for “research purposes”. He said: “I put those comments up on the website to get responses.”

Another member, Douglas Denny from the Bognor Regis branch in West Sussex, used the forum to attack gay sex as “disgusting”. He wrote: “What irritates me is they (sic) way they and their leftie, neo-Commie followers seem to want to force the rest of us to consider them as normal.

“I just wish they would keep their ­homosexual nature and practices to ­themselves and stop trying to ram it down my throat telling me they are ‘normal’ when they are not.”

Yesterday Denny said: “Private forums and private posts should stay private. I have no further comment to make and don’t wish to discuss it with a newspaper.”

Another member complained about the impact of immigration on the NHS, writing: “I am informed by past media that Black Caribbean and not Black African have a higher instance of schizophrenia.

“I wonder if this is due to inbreeding on these small islands in slave times or is it due to ­smoking grass.”

David Cameron has branded UKIP members as “fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists”. Only last week he called them “pretty odd people”. But UKIP seized a record 16 per cent share in one recent opinion poll and leader Nigel Farage now wants to join the PM, Labour’s Ed Miliband and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg in TV ­debates before the next election.

However, our revelations will be a blow to the party’s declaration that it doesn’t tolerate racists or bigots. Last night Labour called on Mr Farage to kick out members guilty of abusive remarks.

Vice-chairman Michael Dugher said: “There is absolutely no place for this kind of nasty racism and appalling homophobia in British politics. UKIP’s leadership should condemn this in the strongest terms.”

Mr Farage said his party did not tolerate racism, but it was against the Government’s plans to allow gay marriage.

He said complaints about abusive remarks would be investigated. But party chiefs were clearly aware of the problem last week when UKIP General Secretary Jonathan Arnott banned a discussion on the site on gay issues.

He wrote of his fears that someone “is going to screenshoot comments and send them to a newspaper”. In the last week, two UKIP members have been forced out of the party for expressing support for gay marriage.

Olly Neville, leader of the party’s youth wing, was stripped of his post for ­supporting gay ­marriage in an interview on BBC Radio 4. Richard Lowe, prospective parliamentary candidate for Chester, says he was also forced to resign over the issue.

UKIP was founded in 1993 with a primary objective of withdrawing the UK from the EU. It struggled initially but following the 2009 elections, the party has 12 of the 73 UK seats in the European Parliament. It also has three members in the House Of Lords.

Although UKIP has not yet won a seat in the House of Commons, opinion polls place it above the Lib Dems and they are hopeful of a breakthrough in the 2015 General Election.

We do not welcome racists, insists Nigel Farage UKIP leader Nigel Farage said last night racists weren’t welcome and vowed to investigate ­complaints.

In an exclusive interview with the Sunday Mirror, Euro MP Mr Farage said: ­“Anybody who makes racist comments isn’t welcome. Anybody with a racist agenda has joined the wrong party.”

Asked about racist and anti-gay views on UKIP’s members’ forum, Mr Farage said: “I have never even heard of these people. Julia Gasper is the only one... We’ve had problems with her and her position in the Oxford branch is not ­acceptable and is being changed. Her war against homosexuals is unacceptable.”

Mr Farage said he would have to “look ­carefully” at remarks before giving his view but added: “Catholic doctrine could be ­interpreted as homophobic. If a comment was aggressive towards a group of ­people, I would condemn it. If it’s ­people saying they are against gay marriage because they’re Christian, I’d be more ­tolerant.”

by Anonymousreply 1101/29/2013

Farage is my hero. I hope he becomes PM soon, and removes the UK from the evil EU.

by Anonymousreply 1201/29/2013

The vote whether or not to stay in the EU is the right thing to do - an open debate about Europe, good and bad, is long overdue.

My guess is most people who want us to leave do so because of social factors - mainly unfettered immigration - so this will be an opportunity for the pro-Europeans to clearly explain the economic reasons why we should stay in.

Personally, I like being able to shoot off to Paris at a moment's notice without having to get a visa. I like living in a melting pot. For me, if there are strong economic reasons why we should leave then I would probably vote to leave, but all the 'out' arguments appear shaped by Little Englanders moaning about Poles and Romanians taking over 'our' country. Which personally I think is rubbish.

by Anonymousreply 1301/29/2013

What about the large number of Muslims in the UK, R13?

by Anonymousreply 1401/29/2013

Well, good question, R14, because only a tiny proportion of Muslims in the UK come from the EU.

So in answer to your question, I can only assume that the Muslim community has a broad range of views about whether we should stay in the EU or not, just like any other community in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 1501/29/2013

[quote]What about the large number of Muslims in the UK

Who care.

by Anonymousreply 1601/30/2013

I love how the racist shit at r14 got completely bitch slapped.

Nicely done, r13.

by Anonymousreply 1701/30/2013

The danger in any economic downtown is the rise of fascist groups who rise to power by blaming everyone's troubles on some minority group.

by Anonymousreply 1801/30/2013

R17, did you not notice that R16 is an idiot?

by Anonymousreply 1901/30/2013

Will the Uk really leave the EU? Kinda wish the Eu would kick them out by now they act like a spoiled child when it comes to it.

by Anonymousreply 2001/30/2013
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