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Gay Man 'Comes Out' As A Friend Of Chick-Fil-A President Dan Cathy, Reveals The Details Of Their Friendship

I spent New Year's Eve at the red-blooded, all-American epicenter of college football: at the Chick-fil-A Bowl, next to Dan Cathy, as his personal guest. It was among the most unexpected moments of my life.

Yes, after months of personal phone calls, text messages and in-person meetings, I am coming out in a new way, as a friend of Chick-fil-A's president and COO, Dan Cathy, and I am nervous about it. I have come to know him and Chick-fil-A in ways that I would not have thought possible when I first started hearing from LGBT students about their concerns over the chicken chain's giving practices.

For many this news of friendship might be shocking. After all, I am an out, 40-year-old gay man and a lifelong activist for equality. I am also the founder and executive director of Campus Pride, the leading national organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and ally college students. Just seven months ago our organization advanced a national campaign against Chick-fil-A for the millions of dollars it donated to anti-LGBT organizations and divisive political groups that work each day to harm hardworking LGBT young people, adults and our families. I have spent quite some time being angry at and deeply distrustful of Dan Cathy and Chick-fil-A. If he had his way, my husband of 18 years and I would never be legally married.

Why was I now standing next to him at one of the most popular football showdowns? How could I dare think to have a relationship with a man and a company that have advocated against who I am; who would take apart my family in the name of "traditional marriage"; whose voice and views represented exactly the opposite of those of the students for whom I advocate every day? Dan is the problem, and Chick-fil-A is the enemy, right?

Like most LGBT people, I was provoked by Dan's public opposition to marriage equality and his company's problematic giving history. I had the background and history on him, so I thought, and had my own preconceived notions about who he was. I knew this character. No way did he know me. That was my view. But it was flawed.

For nearly a decade now, my organization, Campus Pride, has been on the ground with student leaders protesting Chick-fil-A at campuses across the country. I had researched Chick-fil-A's nearly $5 million in funding, given since 2003, to anti-LGBT groups. And the whole nation was aware that Dan was "guilty as charged" in his support of a "biblical definition" of marriage. What more was there to know?

On Aug. 10, 2012, in the heat of the controversy, I got a surprise call from Dan Cathy. He had gotten my cell phone number from a mutual business contact serving campus groups. I took the call with great caution. He was going to tear me apart, right? Give me a piece of his mind? Turn his lawyers on me?

The first call lasted over an hour, and the private conversation led to more calls the next week and the week after. Dan Cathy knew how to text, and he would reach out to me as new questions came to his mind. This was not going to be a typical turn of events.

His questions and a series of deeper conversations ultimately led to a number of in-person meetings with Dan and representatives from Chick-fil-A. He had never before had such dialogue with any member of the LGBT community. It was awkward at times but always genuine and kind.

It is not often that people with deeply held and completely opposing viewpoints actually risk sitting down and listening to one another. We see this failure to listen and learn in our government, in our communities and in our own families. Dan Cathy and I would, together, try to do better than each of us had experienced before.

Never once did Dan or anyone from Chick-fil-A ask for Campus Pride to stop protesting Chick-fil-A. On the contrary, Dan listened intently to our concerns and the real-life accounts from youth about the negative impact that Chick-fil-A was having on campus climate and safety at colleges across the country. He was concerned about an incident last fall where a fraternity was tabling next to the Chick-fil-A restaurant on campus. Whenever an out gay student on campus would walk past the table, the fraternity would chant, "We love Chick-fil-A," and then shout anti-gay slurs at the student. Dan sought first to understand, not to be understood. He confessed that he had been naïve to the issues at hand and the unintended impact of his company's actions.

Chick-fil-A also provided access to internal documents related to the funding of anti-LGBT groups and asked questions about our concerns related to this funding. An internal document, titled "Who We Are," expressed Chick-fil-A's values, which included their commitment "to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect," including LGBT people. Dan and his family members had personally drafted, refined and approved the document.

Through all this, Dan and I shared respectful, enduring communication and built trust. His demeanor has always been one of kindness and openness. Even when I continued to directly question his public actions and the funding decisions, Dan embraced the opportunity to have dialogue and hear my perspective. He and I were committed to a better understanding of one another. Our mutual hope was to find common ground if possible, and to build respect no matter what. We learned about each other as people with opposing views, not as opposing people.

During our meetings I came to see that the Chick-fil-A brand was being used by both sides of the political debate around gay marriage. The repercussion of this was a deep division and polarization that was fueling feelings of hate on all sides. As a result, we agreed to keep the ongoing nature of our meetings private for the time being. The fire needed no more fuel.

Throughout the conversations Dan expressed a sincere interest in my life, wanting to get to know me on a personal level. He wanted to know about where I grew up, my faith, my family, even my husband, Tommy. In return, I learned about his wife and kids and gained an appreciation for his devout belief in Jesus Christ and his commitment to being "a follower of Christ" more than a "Christian." Dan expressed regret and genuine sadness when he heard of people being treated unkindly in the name of Chick-fil-a -- but he offered no apologies for his genuine beliefs about marriage.

And in that we had great commonality: We were each entirely ourselves. We both wanted to be respected and for others to understand our views. Neither of us could -- or would -- change. It was not possible. We were different but in dialogue. That was progress.

In many ways, getting to know Dan better has reminded me of my relationship with my uncle, who is a pastor at a Pentecostal church. When I came out as openly gay in college, I was aware that his religious views were not supportive of homosexuality. But my personal relationship with my uncle reassured me of his love for me -- and that love extends to my husband. My uncle would never want to see any harm come to me or Tommy. His beliefs prevented him from fully reconciling what he understood as the immorality of homosexuality with the morality of loving and supporting me and my life. It was, and remains, an unsolvable riddle for him, hating the sin and loving the sinner.

My relationship with Dan is the same, though he is not my family. Dan, in his heart, is driven by his desire to minister to others and had to choose to continue our relationship throughout this controversy. He had to both hold to his beliefs and welcome me into them. He had to face the issue of respecting my viewpoints and life even while not being able to reconcile them with his belief system. He defined this to me as "the blessing of growth." He expanded his world without abandoning it. I did, as well.

As Dan and I grew through mutual dialogue and respect, he invited me to be his personal guest on New Year's Eve at the Chick-fil-A Bowl. This was an event that Campus Pride and others had planned to protest. Had I been played? Seduced into his billionaire's life? No. It was Dan who took a great risk in inviting me: He stood to face the ire of his conservative base (and a potential boycott) by being seen or photographed with an LGBT activist. He could have been portrayed as "caving to the gay agenda" by welcoming me.

Instead, he stood next to me most of the night, putting respect ahead of fear. There we were on the sidelines, Dan, his wife, his family and friends and I, all enjoying the game. And that is why building a relationship with someone I thought I would never understand mattered. Our worlds, different as they can be, could coexist peacefully. The millions of college football fans watching the game never could have imagined what was playing out right in front of them. Gay and straight, liberal and conservative, activist and evangelist -- we could stand together in our difference and in our respect. How much better would our world be if more could do the same?

This past week Chick-fil-A shared with me the 2011 IRS Form 990, filed in November for the WinShape Foundation, along with 2012 financials. The IRS has not released the 990 to the public yet, but the financials affirm Chick-fil-A's values a year prior to the controversy this past July. The nearly $6 million in outside grant funding focuses on youth, education, marriage enrichment and local communities. The funding reflects Chick-fil-A's promised commitment not to engage in "political or social debates," and the most divisive, anti-LGBT groups are no longer listed.

Even as Campus Pride and so many in the community protested Chick-fil-A and its funding of groups like Family Research Council, Eagle Forum and Exodus International, the funding of these groups had already stopped. Dan Cathy and Chick-fil-A could have noted this publicly earlier. Instead, they chose to be patient, to engage in private dialogue, to reach understanding,and to share proof with me when it was official. There was no "caving"; there were no "concessions." There was, in my view, conscience.

This is why, after discussions with Dan and Chick-fil-A, Campus Pride suspended our campaign. Like Dan, we had faith. It took time to be proven publicly.

Now it is all about the future, one defined, let's hope, by continued mutual respect. I will not change my views, and Dan will likely not change his, but we can continue to listen, learn and appreciate "the blessing of growth" that happens when we know each other better. I hope that our nation's political leaders and campus leaders might do the same.

In the end, it is not about eating (or eating a certain chicken sandwich). It is about sitting down at a table together and sharing our views as human beings, engaged in real, respectful, civil dialogue. Dan would probably call this act the biblical definition of hospitality. I would call it human decency. So long as we are all at the same table and talking, does it matter what we call it or what we eat?

by Anonymousreply 9112/02/2013

The Chik-Fil-A corporation may not have made contributions to hate groups but founder Dan Cathy owns giant chunks of stock and personally supports these groups. So it's still the Chik-Fil-A profits that support the anti-gay hate groups through Mr Cathy. OP, you're being bamboozled.

by Anonymousreply 101/29/2013

He's fat.

by Anonymousreply 201/29/2013

A bigot is a bigot is a bigot. Faith has nothing to do with it, it's still hate. If it were the only place to eat, I'd starve first.

by Anonymousreply 301/29/2013

Just as Cathy still thinks being gay is a sin, I believe there are better, less hateful options than supporting Chick-Fil-A. The money to antigay groups may not come directly from Chick-Fil-A Corporation but until Cathy shows his personal tax returns and explicitly states that people should not support these hate groups, I still won't consider eating there.

by Anonymousreply 401/29/2013

I still don't need their chicken. My life and belly has been full without it.

by Anonymousreply 501/29/2013

He's still fat.

by Anonymousreply 601/29/2013

Honestly, whoever believes that federal action against Chic-Fil-A is necessary should bury his head in the sand and try breathing like that, because that's how the government is going to look when it takes action on you one day.

Boycotting? That's fine. I personally don't care one way or another. I'll eat there if I come across the place like any other. I'm a staunch supporter of LGBT rights but I don't believe we have to fight this as a war.

by Anonymousreply 701/29/2013

No thanks, I'd rather not eat poison.

by Anonymousreply 801/29/2013

Sorry but their food is great. There is no boycott in my house.

by Anonymousreply 901/29/2013

There food sucks, shill.

by Anonymousreply 1001/29/2013

And that's what a real gay activist would say r4, the author is a phony. There's also no mention of his political affiliation, who cares if some Log Cabin moron likes Cathy.

by Anonymousreply 1101/29/2013

His company, his right to believe what he wants. I don't go there but it sure hasn't hurt his business.

by Anonymousreply 1201/29/2013

PR pieces like this are an attempt to lure gay customers back. So they must think the boycott is hurting some.

by Anonymousreply 1301/29/2013

Chick-Fil-A PR Firm Intern --

If you are assigned the DL beat to see "how the client is doing among this community," please inform your superiors that I agree 100% with R4.

I still will not trade with Chick-Fil-A and I am prepared to "eat around" Chick-Fil-A for the duration.

Point out to your bosses that the Boy Scouts are changing and maybe the client would be better served by advising them to change their stance as well.

What they're doing with their corporate donations is hate.

Not buying Chick-Fil-A is just business.

by Anonymousreply 1401/29/2013

Chicken eaters belong in hell

by Anonymousreply 1501/29/2013

Read between the lines, this is all PR ploy. Who eats this shit food anyway? It's horrible for your health, and the proceeds go to executing your gay brothers and sisters.

Avoid at all costs, it's a win win.

May r16 rot In hot grease for eternity.

by Anonymousreply 1701/29/2013

r16 = Log Cabin trash

by Anonymousreply 1801/29/2013

R16 hates his mother and beats his dog.

by Anonymousreply 1901/29/2013

R16 isn't even grade A log cabin trash, it is Chick Kill Gay, scumbag chicken Licker, closet case.

by Anonymousreply 2001/29/2013

TLDR. Would someone please sum it up?

by Anonymousreply 2101/29/2013

Time for a remake of Sleeping With the Enemy.

by Anonymousreply 2201/29/2013

Thread not turning out how you'd hoped, OP?

by Anonymousreply 2301/29/2013

Big deal. CFA is a very popular food chain. People love their food. Lots of pro-gay and gay people still patronize them. Let those who disagree with them and want to make a statement, do so. It's their choice. Let those that don't want to mix politics and food, continue to patronize them. CFA is not a big issue either way.

by Anonymousreply 2401/29/2013

r17, according to sales figures a lot of people eat there, and it is one of the fastest growing national chains. In DC, they have a food truck, and the lines are literally around the block to get their food. Half my office eats there on a given day. People love their food.

by Anonymousreply 2501/29/2013

KFC's new chicken sandwich is just as good and it comes without all the drama.

by Anonymousreply 2601/29/2013

People shouldn't be eating so much fast food anyway. It's terrible for their health. And this particular chain makes a point of endorsing execution of human beings.

Avoid this place if you value human life.

by Anonymousreply 2701/29/2013

Most people eat there because of the food, not the politics.

We need to get Obama to undo DOMA. We need more states to allow gay marriage and we will get there. Then the anti-marriage campaign dries up and all this corporation back and forth becomes moot.

by Anonymousreply 2801/29/2013

I've noticed a lot of gay men look past hate towards gay people from their friends. I was watching the old 60 Minutes, "The Homosexual" hosted by Mike Wallace and that was really a disgusting piece on gay people. Wallace really believed in all of these terrible accusations hurled at gay people, but I learned during the filming, Wallace was friends with a gay couple of I believe 30 years together. But, this didn't stop him from his beliefs and it didn't stop them from being friends with each other. The couple still very much liked Mike. Wallace also believed that gay people could change to heterosexual if they really wanted to.

Personally, I had a friend who was friends with a homophobe. Once I found out he associated with homophobic people I respectfully disappeared from his life. They didn't know he was gay either. I don't think it's a generational thing either, and I find it to be sad. I believe the gay person must really omit vital parts of their life to maintain this friendship. Seems exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 2901/29/2013

Who are these fascist gays on this board who wish death to people just because they enjoy good food? Get some help.

by Anonymousreply 3001/29/2013

Oh R30, you have more problems that anyone can solve if you think Chick-Fil-A is good food.

by Anonymousreply 3101/29/2013

Nobody has wished death upon anyone here, r30. The only death wish is from your boss (?), Dan Cathy, who supports execution of human beings.

Oh, and possibly your own death wish in eating vile greasy, garbage.

by Anonymousreply 3201/29/2013

That was a complete waste of time and ink, and quite pointless.

Of course good can come from the association of people of differing views, but the author of this writes like some timid ex-gay priest from 1972. There's no news here. I'd think better of the author if he simply said, "Through a long friendship I like and respect and agree with X on many things; his support of anti-gay causes is where we part ways entirely."

The repetition of the corporate creed "which included their commitment 'to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect,' including LGBT people" sounds exactly like the PR the company has issued in the past and had others echo on their behalf. I suppose we're to give them a prize because they "hate not the sinner only the sin", or because they accept paying customers of all races, sexual orientations, and political affiliations -- as if to do anything else was not at least skirting serious trouble.

by Anonymousreply 3301/29/2013

[quote] Sorry but their food is great. There is no boycott in my house.

I'm glad a fucking chicken sandwich means more to you and your shitty friend at R16 than other human beings do.

by Anonymousreply 3401/29/2013

meant: gay ex-priest (not that it much matters)

by Anonymousreply 3501/29/2013

He's still funding the "less divisive" anti-gay organizations, whatever the fuck that means.

Sorry, not good enough.

by Anonymousreply 3601/29/2013

[quote] He's still funding the "less divisive" anti-gay organizations, whatever the fuck that means.

Translation of "less divisive":

Oh, honey, we don't kill the gays, hang them or hurt them like they do in mean ol' Africa where we used to send out money!

We love the gays, like Jesus told us to! Well, the IDEA of them, but only if they are willing to change and come to Christ.

And meanwhile, we still make sure they don't have any civil or legal rights. Nothing says "Christian love" like denying some drama queen the access to his, uh, "friend's" bed side as he lays dying!

by Anonymousreply 3701/29/2013

From the looks of this guy, he may want to try to start a new friendship with the president of a gym chain and not a fast food franchise.

by Anonymousreply 3801/29/2013

It's like the racist with a black friend, that doesn't count, amongst the rest he hates.

I don't care how good people think the food is, I stopped eating fried food. So it is win-win. I'll only go there on Sunday. When they open Sunday is when I believe that the company is not the man.

by Anonymousreply 3901/29/2013

I seriously think the "gay activist" is a freeper, his argument is identical to how Log Cabiners rationalize voting for anti-gay Repugs. So if he's not a freeper, he might as well be.

by Anonymousreply 4001/29/2013

We're talking about breaded, deep-fried chicken here, right?

If you're gay and can't give this crap up out of self-respect, you're just pathetic.

To even attempt to rationalize why you don't and having that rationalization involve the appeal of the chicken itself, then you're quite embarrassing.

It would be less embarrassing if you stated you just didn't believe in gay marriage than stating that while you did believe in it, you weren't willing to give up this particular fast food for something important.

by Anonymousreply 4101/29/2013

I just saw the punk ass on CNN....had to quit watching because he was just embarrassing himself. How are you going to articulate a point about Shit Fil A not donating to anti-gay organizations yet admit that they're still donating to anti-gay groups in the same breath?? And that suit he had on was about three times too small. Here's a hint: if you look like you are shrugging your shoulders at people for no damn reason, then your suit is too small. I was offended because he was shrugging his shoulders the whole time. But for real, Shane is a sell out shilling for his beloved "friend" Dan; and Dan couldn't give a fuck less, as long as more people keep clogging their arteries with his shitken sandwhiches.

by Anonymousreply 4201/29/2013

So he's a Log Cabin type, right?

by Anonymousreply 4301/29/2013

Of course he is. The only way to deal with Dan Cathy is to seize him and fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 4401/29/2013

I smell a payoff. Gay activists are notoriously poor. Dan Cathy is hugely rich.

by Anonymousreply 4501/29/2013

Are we seriously shaming people for their dietary habits? Has it really come to this?

by Anonymousreply 4601/29/2013

Mr. Windmeyer should try to befriend Jenny Craig. It would do him more good than shitty, greasy fast food.

by Anonymousreply 4701/29/2013

It's not about marriage equality, Uncle Mary. Your pal Danny wants you DEAD.

by Anonymousreply 4801/29/2013

The queen who licks Chick-fil-A's anus is like any other whore; easily bought, particularly with free food.

He's also fat and ugly.

by Anonymousreply 4901/29/2013

The fact that this fucker got airtime for a PR stumping is sick. Push the information out, let your friend's know, this is PR damage control and manipulation.

Keep damaging this despicable food chain with NO DOLLARS. It's the only thing these people understand. Consequences for bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 5001/29/2013

[quote] Are we seriously shaming people for their dietary habits? Has it really come to this?

The queens who are all "I know it's wrong, but I can't boycott, their food is so goooood" deserve to be shamed. Fast food is fast food.

by Anonymousreply 5101/29/2013

Their 'food'contains anti-foaming agents, which are banned in every country, including the shitty ones, except the USA.

by Anonymousreply 5201/29/2013

Dimethylpolysiloxane (anti-foaming agent):  A simple search on the internet reveals this to be a type of silicone, one that is used in caulk, lubricants, adhesives, resins, as well as filler for  breast implants.

Yum, yum, good food. Dolts.

by Anonymousreply 5301/29/2013

Who cares r53. If I based my buying habits on every so-called bad thing an owner has done - I wouldn't eat or have anything.

People are human. Chick-Fil-A has amazing food at a great price and that is all that matters to my partner and I. You can keep your petty and biased politics - keep your hands off Chick-Fil-A and their amazing chicken!

by Anonymousreply 5401/29/2013

R54, in this case you actively KNOW that the owner is anti-gay. Yes, you can never boycott everywhere because you can't know everybody's politics.

Also, cook your partner a fucking meal instead of being clones with your fast food worship. I'm guessing you put your partner's thoughts in movie and book reviews as well. Ass.

by Anonymousreply 5501/29/2013

Hi, Chick-Fil-A PR intern at R54!

by Anonymousreply 5601/29/2013

A lot of gay and Progay people still eat at CFA. I see them there are the times. The lines there are long. People have a right to value yummy chicken over gay rights. You don't have to agree, just tolerate diverse views.

by Anonymousreply 5701/29/2013

[quote] A lot of gay and Progay people still eat at CFA. I see them there are the times. The lines there are long.

Did you go along and ask if they're gay or progay with your clipboard at these long lines? Or were they all standing with one hand on their hip?

by Anonymousreply 5801/29/2013


by Anonymousreply 5901/29/2013

Whether you respect and support or disagree with Chick-Fil-A’s stance on social issues, for the sake of health, no one should be supporting a company which makes food that is very damaging to the human body.  All of their added ingredients are terrible for the human body and should be banned from human consumption or at least people should be made more aware of how damaging they truly are.  Just because the FDA lists these ingredients are “safe”, doesn’t mean they are safe.  It is foods just like the ones that Chick-Fil-A propagates that are contributing the rampant disease and rapidly declining health of our nation

by Anonymousreply 6001/29/2013

I can guarantee you that Dan Cathy is befriending this man because he thinks that ultimately he will bring him over to the side of Jesus. It's a common "born again Christian" tactic to pretend to be someone friend, sometimes for months or even years, to convert someone to Christianity. If after a certain point it doesn't work, then they're dumped like a hot potato.

by Anonymousreply 6101/29/2013

If you truly think that chick-fil-a is good food than there is no hope for America. Seriously. This is why France hates us!

Fast food is shit, tastes like shit, and will ruin your health. You are an IDIOT with no taste and aptitude in life if you consume fast food unless in emergency situations.

It is low-IQ to eat fast food. There, I've said it. It disqualifies you from dating and the gene pool.

If you eat fast food willingly, on a regular basis, please do not procreate.

by Anonymousreply 6201/29/2013


by Anonymousreply 6301/29/2013

[quote]If I based my buying habits on every so-called bad thing an owner has done - I wouldn't eat or have anything.

Keep in mind that CFA is a privately held company. There are no shareholders outside of the Cathy family, and there are no franchises as such. Dan Cathy is the embodiment of CFA in a way that the president or CEO of a publicly traded company could never be. He IS Chik-Fil-A and vice versa.

by Anonymousreply 6401/29/2013

Anyone who calls any fast food "amazing" is a douche!

by Anonymousreply 6501/29/2013

Clearly, r65, they are pawns from the PR damage control.

by Anonymousreply 6601/29/2013

Anyone who refuses to realize that a meal in a fancy restaurant often has more calories than a simple fast food meal is a snob.

How'd that feel? Of course I don't feel that way, but I was making a point: People should feel free to eat whatever the fuck they want as long as they're informed about what they're eating. They shouldn't be harassed for what they eat.

You make enough of a statement by choosing not to eat something. Stop trying to make other people stop. Persuade them, don't call for forcible action against them.

by Anonymousreply 6701/29/2013

I think Cathy has a right to his opinion like everyone else. Of course I disagree with him and voted for gay marriage in our state of Maryland but he has the right to his free speech of prejudice.

by Anonymousreply 6801/29/2013

[quote]I think Cathy has a right to his opinion like everyone else.

And who is denying him that right? He can believe whatever he wants, and so can everyone else. And I and anyone else who wants to do so can express our opinions by taking our business elsewhere. The right to free speech is not the right to uncontested speech. Actions have consequences, whether good, bad, or some combination of the two.

by Anonymousreply 6901/29/2013

Sorry, but I don't see opposition to gay marriage as hate. I know of many people who are not for same-sex marriage, including some gay people, who definitely don't hate gay people. IN fact, some of them have gay best friends and close relatives that they love very dearly. They have different political and social views. A different belief or viewpoint does not make one a bigot.

by Anonymousreply 7001/29/2013

R69, you're right on the money. They have a right to say what they want just like you have a right to boycott them. To shame people that don't boycott them is really classless, however.

R70, I think it's difficult to understand, but it is a form of unintended hate. I don't think that those people are overtly hateful, but it's implicit. For example, if someone said you can't have video games because you were born with an extra finger, you'd consider it equally ridiculous and infuriating. Hey, I'm not saying that you're propagating the hate, though. I'm just giving you a little nibble of food for thought.

You're right, though. Perhaps I wouldn't go as far as call someone a bigot. This is a word that's thrown around aimlessly as much as "racism" is. It's just so hard to express a viewpoint without being hammered unless it's the same viewpoint of the proletariat.

There were many things women were not allowed to do because they were women, like joining the army and getting a risky job. That pissed off some people. Being opposed to it is not overt hate, but gives the impression of hatefulness through its implicit restriction on a person's liberty.

That's what personal liberty is all about. Personally, I think people have the right to call me a fag if I were gay, just like I'd have the right to call them bigots. Liberty is ugly, and I'm sure you'd prefer liberty, R70. You seem like that kind of person. Others don't agree, though.

People can be opposed to something that would give me liberty, but the government isn't supposed to take action on it as long as I'm not hurting someone. Unfortunately, the government is an organization that doesn't protect the individual.

by Anonymousreply 7101/29/2013

[quote]Sorry, but I don't see opposition to gay marriage as hate.

Not hate perhaps, but certainly a form of prejudice. Most of the people who oppose marriage equality claim that they want to protect the institutions of marriage and family. But if you ask them if they would support a ban on no-fault divorce, the vast majority will almost certainly oppose that. They don't want gays destroying those institutions, but nobody's going to stop them from doing it. It's really about wanting to maintain the privileged status that hets have in our society. They want to have a way to keep our sexuality and our relationships from being on a legal and cultural par with theirs. They want to be able to have a way to point to us and say "We're not like them; we're different, we're better". And that is just plain, flat-out bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 7201/29/2013

r72, I respect that. After all, a lot of sexist people are married to opposite sex persons that they are madly in love with, would die for. Likewise, many people who are against same-sex marriage are knowingly close and loving to gay or bisexual people in their lives. They don't necessarily have animus against gay people, but perhaps they are insensitive to the value of same-sex relationships or constitutional protections of such relationships. It is a lack of appreciation of equality that is usually the case for most.

by Anonymousreply 7301/29/2013

[quote]It is a lack of appreciation of equality that is usually the case for most.

And many of them don't want to change that. On some level they don't want to see gay sexuality and relationships as the equal of their own. They're comfortable in their worldview, as most people of all societal groups are, and they don't like having their beliefs challenged.

by Anonymousreply 7401/29/2013

Anyone named "Cathy" must be a bottom.

by Anonymousreply 7501/29/2013

[quote]From the looks of this guy, he may want to try to start a new friendship with the president of a gym chain and not a fast food franchise.

This is why they hate us.

by Anonymousreply 7601/29/2013

[quote]If you truly think that chick-fil-a is good food than there is no hope for America. Seriously. This is why France hates us!

Go die in a Chick-Fil-A kitchen grease fire, cunt!

by Anonymousreply 7701/29/2013

[quote]Sorry, but I don't see opposition to gay marriage as hate. I know of many people who are not for same-sex marriage, including some gay people, who definitely don't hate gay people. IN fact, some of them have gay best friends and close relatives that they love very dearly. They have different political and social views. A different belief or viewpoint does not make one a bigot.

So wanting separate water fountains for blacks doesn't necessarily mean a person hates black. Yep. Some logic there, idiot.

by Anonymousreply 7801/29/2013

[quote]I think Cathy has a right to his opinion like everyone else

Who said that he didn't? He and his company were provocative, and they got responded to. Your words and actions have consequences. Welcome to reality.

by Anonymousreply 7901/29/2013

Anyone who says that being against gays having the same rights isn't hate are just HRC doormats.

by Anonymousreply 8001/29/2013

KFC in the last couple of months have a kidney, and offal (that looked like brain) found in their food.

by Anonymousreply 8101/29/2013

[quote]KFC in the last couple of months have a kidney, and offal (that looked like brain) found in their food

Maybe they can use that to their advantage in their next ad campaing: "KFC: Offal Good Food." Or, "KFC-Our Food is Organ-ic."

by Anonymousreply 8201/29/2013

[quote]Darrin Stephens, McMann & Tate

Darrin #1 or Darrin #2?

by Anonymousreply 8301/29/2013

[quote]There we were on the sidelines, Dan, his wife, his family and friends and I

I had to sit out in the car. I am not "appropriate."

by Anonymousreply 8401/29/2013

[quote]KFC's new chicken sandwich is just as good

Um, no.

by Anonymousreply 8501/29/2013

Oh yes, enjoy your poison. Given that MSG is a chemical which promotes neurological damage, you seriously have to wonder if some people who eat at Chick-fil-A on a regular basis are, technically, suffering the brain-damaging effects of regular MSG consumption. For the record, by the way, KFC's menu is absolutely loaded with MSG, too.

by Anonymousreply 8601/29/2013

R83 Darren #2, the gay one. Who else would post on Datalounge?

by Anonymousreply 8701/29/2013

[quote]For the record, by the way, KFC's menu is absolutely loaded with MSG, too.

And so is McDonald's, Burger King's, Popeyes, Taco Bells, etc. etc. etc.

by Anonymousreply 8801/29/2013

ATLANTA -- Chick-fil-A's sales growth continued in 2012, despite last summer's gay marriage/gay rights controversy.

The Atlanta-based fast food chain generated $4.6 billion in sales last year, up about 12 percent from $4.1 billion in 2011.

RELATED | Chick-fil-A thrives despite gay rights issues PHOTOS | Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day

Chick-fil-A also opened 96 restaurants in 2012, bringing its count to 1,960 locations in 39 states and Washington, D.C.

It further claimed nearly 7,000 jobs created nationwide through new restaurant openings and existing restaurant growth.

And it gave more than $2 million in scholarships to students through its Chick-fil-A Leadership Scholarship program, the Chick-fil-A Bowl and two Chick-fil-A Kickoff games.

In summer 2012, Chick-fil-A president and COO Dan Cathy and the company caught flak from gay marriage support groups after he told Baptist Press -- "We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of a family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."

by Anonymousreply 8901/30/2013


by Anonymousreply 9012/02/2013

So, you bumped a year old thread you pathetic shill @R90? Shouldn't you be trolling porn threads (your other passion besides CFA)?

by Anonymousreply 9112/02/2013
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