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98% of Austrians voted for Hitler to invade

What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force. In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people – about 30 daily.

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn’t have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn’t support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

by Anonymousreply 9002/01/2013

OP, your motivation in posting this is clear. But you freepers need to decide if the Democrats are Fascists or Communists.

And I'll save my sympathies, not for the Austrians, but the Jews, Poles, Ukrainians,Russians,gays, Gypsies and disabled that they helped try to exterminate.

by Anonymousreply 501/29/2013

The internet really is turning out a bunch of mindless monkeys.

Poor OP probably believes that drivel.

by Anonymousreply 601/29/2013

I had a German Jewish teacher from Germany who claimed that the Austrians were even more violent in their Anti-semitism than Germans were.

Dirk Bogarde did a film called The Night Porter. There was a scene where he was dressed in full Nazi regalia. He was scared to walk outside in Austria but did so anyway. He was mortified when a crowd saw him and clapped!

by Anonymousreply 701/29/2013

Assenwipen fraukunt.

by Anonymousreply 1101/29/2013

What do you mean these mountains don't lead to Switzerland? It says right here in the script they do. Oh, so what if Salzburg borders Germany? This is for American audiences, half of them think Austria has kangaroos!

by Anonymousreply 1301/29/2013

Actually it was 99% and the vote was held AFTER Hitler invaded. The vote was held by the Nazi government with Nazi officials at every polling station.

The impetus for the invasion was a planned referendum by the Austrian government on the matter of union with Germany. This referendum would have excluded voters under 24 (the core of Austria's Nazis). Hitler invaded before this referendum could take place.

by Anonymousreply 1601/29/2013

Seriously. People like OP are unfit for life and just need to be put to sleep.

It would be a much better world.

by Anonymousreply 1701/29/2013

Just stop, Op, it's not working.

by Anonymousreply 1801/29/2013

Holy hell, OP is paranoid. Trolldar him and see all his threads on the front page.

OP, I come to this site to read conspiracy theories about Jeremy Renner's baby, not on the New World Order. Go take your crazy to another forum of like-minded individuals.

by Anonymousreply 2001/29/2013

That's a rather provocative statement, r19. What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 2101/29/2013

Well, I'm not too surprised - what with the way they have always treated their Aborigine population.

by Anonymousreply 2201/29/2013

R22, I hope you were joking.

by Anonymousreply 2301/29/2013

R5 is right. The Freepers can't decide if the Democrats are Fascists or Communists. But that's because they know so little about history, they can't tell the difference.

John Mackey, the CEO of Whole Foods, recently said that he took back his first statement that Obama was a socialist. He is a actually a fascist. First off, that's idiotic. Second, Mackey is a well educated, very successful entrepreneur who doesn't bother to learn history. If he can't do it, no Freeper can.

So go away OP. Just go away.

by Anonymousreply 2401/29/2013

OP. Austria was divided into four zones after the war. Russia only occupied Neideroesterreich and Bergenland. Vienna itself was divided into zones controlled by the allies; however, the central zone was controlled by each (France, Britian, Russia, USA) on an alternating, monthly schedule.

The atrocities by the occupying Russian forces were well documented. What is less well documented is the behavior of American service men. The US Zone was often compared to the Wild West. The number of abortions in Garmish-Partinkirchen between 1945- 1950 skyrocketed due to rape by american servicemen.

by Anonymousreply 2501/29/2013

Libertarian Idiot Alert!

You've abundantly proven in 4-5 postings that you're not worth the breathing trying to argue with. Please, just take your hallucinatory alternate version of reality and go away.

by Anonymousreply 2601/29/2013

For a look at occupied Vienna, The Third Man was filmed amongst the rubble and troops.

by Anonymousreply 2701/29/2013

Try telling a Holocaust survivor sometime that Fascism and Communism are the same thing. I'm sure you'd get quite an earful in response to that massive stupidity...

by Anonymousreply 2801/29/2013

Oh, Jesus, smokescreen about Hitler to get to another screed about guns.


by Anonymousreply 2901/29/2013

Oh look -- Tel Aviv has signed on.

by Anonymousreply 3001/29/2013

Obvious fake. One of Germany's failures in the war was not using women as much as the Allies were. Freedom of speech was the first thing to go, not something implemented in 1943 or 1944. Much of this is just lying hogwash: religion was not suppressed, and let's face it: food rationing, collecting guns, all this kind of thing was done in EVERY country during World War II, including the United States, which operated under a big government command economy throughout the war.

by Anonymousreply 3101/29/2013

Freeper OP needs to get a fucking job, he has way too much time on his hands (yet apparently has no time to critically evaluate the nonsense he copies and pastes).

by Anonymousreply 3201/29/2013

[quote]That is why people don't see that the USA is quickly becoming just like Nazi Germany- the media is owned by the corporations that control (and are controlled by) the government.

I thought gun rights prevented us from moving towards fascism?

Which is it? Are we a fascist state, in which case gun rights do not do anything to prevent fascism, or are we a free country?

Once you get into the real world and move out of mom and dad's house you'll start to see how the world really works.

by Anonymousreply 3301/29/2013

I studied this in university, in detail; the narrative linked by the OP is an extreme distortion of truth. Anyone can go to Wikipedia and read about Anchluss. There was no gleeful popular vote - it was a hostile takeover, aided by Nazi sympathizers who represented some, but not the majority, of Austrians in power.

by Anonymousreply 3401/29/2013

[quote]I thought gun rights prevented us from moving towards fascism?

No, fascism happens when the gun owners stop blasting minorities, and the government starts to fear that they will start killing cops.

Gun owners now generally do not kill cops. Note the Newtown killer committed suicide when he heard the police sirens, and the Aurora killer put down his weapon when the police arrived, as did the Seal Beach killer.

As long as gun nuts are no threat to cops, the gun control movement will continue as it has for the past 45 years, but if people start blasting police, all guns will disappear from the face of our particular earth.

by Anonymousreply 3501/29/2013

Hitler used religion to help keep control of people and make his message resonate. Now, who does that sound like to you?

by Anonymousreply 3601/29/2013

Yeah -- what vote? Maybe some Austrians were happy to see the Nazi troops pour over their border, but there was no vote.

by Anonymousreply 3701/29/2013

[quote]I studied this in university, in detail; the narrative linked by the OP is an extreme distortion of truth. Anyone can go to Wikipedia and read about Anchluss.

You studied this in detail, yet you can't spell it correctly?

by Anonymousreply 3801/29/2013

r38 has pox marks

by Anonymousreply 3901/29/2013

It took the Austrians one day to achieve the anti-semiticism it took Germany 5 years to achieve.

by Anonymousreply 4001/29/2013

This never happened!

by Anonymousreply 4101/29/2013

r40, antisemitism isn't an achievement

by Anonymousreply 4201/29/2013

[quote]Hitler used religion to help keep control of people and make his message resonate. Now, who does that sound like to you?


by Anonymousreply 4301/29/2013

I mean, it *is* the Austrian School of Economics and all...

by Anonymousreply 4401/29/2013

OP - please google the phrase "fifth column"

The Third Man is absolutely must see.

by Anonymousreply 4501/29/2013

R44, Hitler had a lot of Austrian economists rounded up and killed. Most fled.

by Anonymousreply 4601/29/2013

So "Libertarians" isn't the right answer? I'm so confused.

by Anonymousreply 4701/29/2013

During World War II the American government censored the media and read the mails; it rationed food, gasoline, and lots of other materials; it exercised command over whole industries and fixed prices and wages; it taxed people and forced them to give money; it conducted campaigns for people to convert old jewelry, guns, and the like to war materiel. Movie theaters and schools showed propaganda films. People were taught to inform on their neighbors and keep secrets. Whole classes of innocent people were rounded up and put in camps (also true in England and even Australia). Blackouts were rigidly enforced.

State control was pervasive and general. Nazis were killers, but state control was necessary to defeat them and it was done.

by Anonymousreply 4801/29/2013

[quote]It took the Austrians one day to achieve the anti-semiticism it took Germany 5 years to achieve.

I believe anti-Jewish feeling in Germany and Austria took root in the aftermath of World War One when each was the hub of a ruined empire.

by Anonymousreply 4901/30/2013

"Seriously. People like OP are unfit for life and just need to be put to sleep."

Said like a good Nazi who wants to send the Jews to gas chambers.

by Anonymousreply 5001/30/2013

"Freepers can't decide if the Democrats are Fascists or Communists. But that's because they know so little about history, they can't tell the difference."

Fascism and Communism are flavors of the same poison- statism. They both worship government power, just like all socialists.

by Anonymousreply 5101/30/2013

The reason given by most Germans(on an anecdotal basis) for going against the Jews was the fact that the Jews supposedly didn't support the WWI war effort with their money and influence. It's not true at all BUT it does tell you what passes for truth amongst certain people.

by Anonymousreply 5201/30/2013

R51 is completely ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 5301/30/2013

Is there any on-line source, like, that debunks this crap? A facebook "friend" (who is also a right-wing religious republican Obama-basher) posted this recently. And while it's obvious to me this is nothing but false-equivalency and other logical fallacies, I don't really have a solid foundation for debunking it myself.

by Anonymousreply 5401/30/2013


The truth can't be debunked.

This is true.

by Anonymousreply 5501/30/2013

R55, the implications are not. The implications are that Democrats/Obama are fascist dictators like the Nazis. This is utter bullshit.

I would like to see a thorough debunking of the bullshit in this.

by Anonymousreply 5601/30/2013


The Rethuglicans and Demoncrats are just like the Nazis. The fact that you defend them makes me sick.

by Anonymousreply 5701/30/2013

R57, you're a delusional paranoid tin-hat conspiracy theorist engaging in false equivalency fallacies. You're an idiot and should seek mental help & medication.

by Anonymousreply 5801/30/2013


You are the delusional one, believing that Demoncrats care about the poor.

Get a clue, you halfwit.

by Anonymousreply 5901/30/2013

R59, you're clearly the delusional one (you're projecting). You're ignorant and blinded by ideology, and apparently no small amount of propaganda.

by Anonymousreply 6001/30/2013

Is the OP Kitty Werthmann of the South Dakota Eagle Forum posting on Datalounge? Really?

Because that's who wrote the letter. OP, shouldn't you have at least LINKED her letter?

I'm no fan of Obama but the NAZI's had gun control.......before the NAZIs came to power. Why? To control the NAZI Party.

That is the real history.

I'm neutral on the gun issue but please don't distort history.

by Anonymousreply 6101/30/2013

The problem with forcing people out of the closet is that 99% of them believe shit like this and we'd have to give them remedial lessons in life.

by Anonymousreply 6201/30/2013

*sigh* My husband is friendly with a Republican who enjoys forwarding highly inflammatory e-mails to us in the earnest hope that we will be so outraged by the content that we will immediately denounce the liberal Democrats and change parties. It pisses me off, because the guy is an ignorant, vicious person who actually believes the propaganda he so merrily spreads, and yet he has the nerve to consider himself a friend.

I'll lay odds that this piece of revisionist garbage will soon find its way to our inbox, courtesy of this jerk. At least I have a preview. I can debunk one thing off the top of my head: Hitler did NOT believe in equal rights for women. He wanted them barefoot and pregnant, inside the home.

by Anonymousreply 6301/30/2013

Hitler also loosened gun control laws.

by Anonymousreply 6401/30/2013

[quote]The Rethuglicans and Demoncrats are just like the Nazis. The fact that you defend them makes me sick.

ROFL.... Get help, OP. Really.

by Anonymousreply 6501/30/2013

Another freeper left behind.

by Anonymousreply 6601/30/2013

and yet Hollywood keeps hiring all these austrian actors: Kidmam, Jackman, Watts, etc.

by Anonymousreply 6701/30/2013

This has been going around so long, SURELY there's a left-wing/liberal take down of this attempt to smear everything Obama/Democrats are doing?

by Anonymousreply 6801/30/2013

A tragic reckoning.

But let's look on the bright side.

I and 98% of all Austrian Academy members are voting for Waltz and Haneke!

by Anonymousreply 6901/30/2013

I didn't want Hitler.

by Anonymousreply 7001/30/2013

[quote]I'm no fan of Obama but the NAZI's had gun control.......before the NAZIs came to power. Why? To control the NAZI Party.

The Girl Scouts also have gun control (you can't bring guns to the meetings). By your reasoning the girl scouts are also Nazis!

by Anonymousreply 7101/30/2013


The Demoncrats are just as evil as the Rethuglicans. Until you wake up and read or and see how evil the federal government and the Federal Reserve really is you will never understand.

There is no "take down" by liberals because they have sold their souls to their masters in DC. Look at how quiet they have been about our drone murders in the Middle East since Obama got elected.

by Anonymousreply 7201/31/2013

[quote]The Demoncrats are just as evil as the Rethuglicans.

Not by any measure of fact you can imagine, no. It's like saying a pebble is "just as big as" Mount Everest. It's obviously and laughably untrue, and completely indefensible as a statement.

The fact that you're actually referencing tin-hat-conspiracy site "LewRockwell" shows just how far down the rabbit-hole of insanity you are.

by Anonymousreply 7301/31/2013


by Anonymousreply 7401/31/2013

[quote]The Rethuglicans and Demoncrats are just like the Nazis. The fact that you defend them makes me sick.

I think when you say "Nazi" you mean "authoritarian" which, given the National Security State and "Homeland," is a fair assessment.

by Anonymousreply 7501/31/2013

R9/OP/Moron, Feinstein is Jewish so how does that make her " the perfect Nazi"?

Also, the Austrians did not vote for Hitler to annex Austria, there was no such fucking vote. That lie in itself proves that you are a liar and a moron and a distorter of history.

On the other hand, r44 doesn't know what he/she is talking about either - it's called the Austrian School after the Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek who left Austria after 1938 precisely to get away from Hitler's occupation. Moreover, as to whether communism or fascism were worse, the Eastern Europeans who lived under both would say they were equally evil.

What OP misses is that no other country in the world has the US's "liberal" loose gun laws, which, by his "logic", means that every other country in the world is Nazi.

Hitler himself was an Austrian, but he hated the country because he thought it was weak and pathetic and not authoritarian enough.

by Anonymousreply 7601/31/2013

By the way, in fact the Nazis deregulated the gun laws when they took over power in Germany. The Nazis had more in common with the NRA and all the morons who believe in gun rights!

"The 1938 German Weapons Act "The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." But under the new law:

"Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."

"The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.

"Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year. "The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted."

Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.

Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, promulgated Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

by Anonymousreply 7701/31/2013

This post is so full of distortions. It would take all day to refute them all one by one. The pious tone really grates too.

Also, "Fascism, Communism, and Socialsm are just three names for the same thing- state control of society." Not true, organized with very different roles for the state, church, private property and family -- and have very different death tolls too. Auschwitz ain't Sweden, honey.

I really wish this "doom and gloom America is fascist person all of recorded history is a lie" would run along somewhere else.

by Anonymousreply 7801/31/2013

Correction to r76: the Austrian School was not thus named after Hayek, it preceded him, but he is the most significant recent proponent of it, supposedly being the inspiration for Reagan and Thatcher (although they didn't quite get it right).

by Anonymousreply 7901/31/2013

This is really old stuff. My mother read something like this in the 1950s. It basically said nazism was the same as communism and we had defeated the nazis, now we needed to defeat the soviets who were tryspeculate vulgarize society and brainwash children through day care.

by Anonymousreply 8001/31/2013

[quote] Hitler did NOT believe in equal rights for women. He wanted them barefoot and pregnant, inside the home.


When Hitler came to power in 1933, he introduced a Law for the Encouragement of Marriage, which entitled newly married couples to a loan of 1000 marks (around 9 months' average wages at that time). On their first child, they could keep 250 marks. On their second, they could keep another 250. They reclaimed all of the loan by their fourth child.

In a September 1934 speech to the National Socialist Women's Organization, Adolf Hitler argued that for the German woman her “world is her husband, her family, her children, and her home”,[5] a policy which was reinforced by the stress on "Kinder" and "Küche" in propaganda, and the bestowal of the Cross of Honor of the German Mother on women bearing four or more babies.

During this period, women were discriminated against in employment and forced out or bribed with numerous social benefits. Medicine, the law and civil service were occupations reserved for men alone.[6]

by Anonymousreply 8101/31/2013

[quote] needed to defeat the soviets who were tryspeculate vulgarize society

OMG I changed this stupid iPhone autocorrect TWICE and really thought I'd x'd it out for good when I wrote "trying to secularize society."

by Anonymousreply 8201/31/2013

Yeah -- Hitler wanted the gals home and breeding. The point made upthread about how he hurt his own war effort by not utilizing German women is very true.

Lucky for us.

by Anonymousreply 8301/31/2013

OP, you're fucking SICK for taking advantage of a seriously horrific time in recent world history and projecting it upon a group of people living today.

You're just as massive a part of the problem you complain about. You're a corporate whore yourself. And you're using people who died under Hitler to your advantage to further your cause. You should feel LUCKY you're here on Datalounge posting this shit on your made-in-China-God-bless-the-free-fucking-outsourcing-market computer and comparing your struggles to people who lived and died under the worst leadership in centuries.

You're a coddled, spoiled brat, you fucking libertarian asshole, and I'm sick of you bratty, whining, complaining libertarian anarchists comparing our easy lives today to life under Hitler. You don't know, and you never will, so shut the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 8401/31/2013

Austrians voted for hitler AFTER Hitler marched into and took control of Austrian politics. So guess who counted the votes?

by Anonymousreply 8501/31/2013

The OP and the person who wrote this does not know that this vote, and similar votes in Autria, were yes only votes, that is to say, you were not allowed to vote no- you could only vote "no" by abstention. But those who did vote no by abstention (including in Austria) were then persecuted. This was referred to in Austria as the Anschlus (I hope I got the spelling correct.) In short this take over was a predetermine propaganda filled, orchestrated event to make it appear as if democratically determined. And of course it does not mention the lies and mandatory oaths and total content of many of its programs. And the claim that Austrians did not know what was going on in Germany with Jews at the time of the take over is a bald faced lie. Of course they knew as did every German.

by Anonymousreply 8601/31/2013

OP, do you seriously believe this drivel or are you just trolling.

Please come back and respond to the actual facts posted in r77 and.. well everywhere else in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 8701/31/2013

The announced 1938 Austrian vote was, in fact, 99.73% favorable, with a 99.71% turnout.

This referendum has always been understood as rigged, and the vote as entirely meaningless. It took place after Hitler had seized absolute power in Austria.

by Anonymousreply 8801/31/2013

Before the Anschluss the Nazi party in Austria was a trivial force. People there were well informed about what was going on in Germany, including euthanasia. When the Anschluss occurred, thousands of Austrians were murdered, so there was no "gradual" takeover. Freedom of speech was the first thing to go, not the last; and I think we can be sure that Nazi education included more than sports and political indoctrination. The Nazis were not anti-religion, and their philosophy had nothing in common with humanism. Women were second class citizens. During the war, all countries instituted food rationing, control of wages and prices, and full employment policies, so the Nazis were no different than the Americans in that regard.

by Anonymousreply 8902/01/2013

Who wants to bet that Kitty Werthmann is not from Austria at all? Who is going to trek out to South Dakota to even find out?

by Anonymousreply 9002/01/2013
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