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Going to Vegas...

I'm going to Vegas for the first time, on Business, but I'm staying two extra days(Friday & Saturday) for pleasure.

I'm not a huge gambler. Any suggestions for things to see and do for a 40-something single gay man?

by Anonymousreply 11806/22/2013


by Anonymousreply 101/26/2013

Try here. They have a lot of things to do.

Are you interested in shows? Museums? Exhibits or nightlife? Really, OP, you need to be more specific. You can visit the Grand Canyon, Hoover Damn, a ghost town or hit a bunch of free shows.

There are tons of exhibits - Titanic, Bodies, the Shark Reef and the Wax museum, just to name a few. It depends on what you want to do.

I'm not too much on the nightlife (usually glued to a craps table) but maybe someone else can give you that info.

by Anonymousreply 201/26/2013

I know Vegas is notoriously "not very gay", but is there ANY gay nightlife worth checking out? At all?

by Anonymousreply 301/26/2013

Also interested in the best places to eat (especially if you're by yourself, as it appears I'll be), and stuff like that. Best "sight-seeing" things around town and on the strip (best casino, best light/water show, whatever), best amusement ride (i.e. actually worth the coast... coaster, whatever).

Any advice on best way to get around (I won't have a car)... really ANYTHING. I'm just casting around for ideas on how to spend two extra days, so I can say "I've seen Vegas".

by Anonymousreply 401/26/2013

The bus. I believe it's the 402X (look at the website - tons of info there).

The bus, a trolley, tram - shit, they run up and down the strip all of the time.

Take the bus to see the Freemont Street Experience.

If you're looking for an "old Vegas" feel, try the Peppermill. The area is a little seedy but the bus stops right near there.

Seriously, just get on the bus (buy the 3 day pass or whatever) and hop off at whatever looks cool. The taxis all have those "what to do" guides for free so just plan your attack. Or wing it. There's no way to see it all.

by Anonymousreply 501/26/2013

Here. Since you seem to be unwilling to look yourself.

Damn. Am I booking your flight, too?

by Anonymousreply 601/26/2013

R5, yeah, I know there's no way to see it all, which is why I'm sorta asking for DL Vegas-Veterans to give me their top ideas on must-sees as well as things to not bother with.

Thanks for the "Freemont Street Experience" suggestion!

(and R6, fuck off... asking for personal experience is a lot different than just going to a site like that... I'm asking for people who have BEEN there so I can weed out the chaff and stick to the highlights... especially from a GAY perspective. Is that concept alien to you?)

by Anonymousreply 701/26/2013

Too bad the Liberace Museum has closed, that was pretty amazing.

I love the shopping, even if I'm not buying anything. I could spend all day in Hermes.

Best free show: The Bellagio fountains. Be sure to go inside to look at the Chihuly glass ceiling in the lobby.

When I was in LV for business, I used to stay at Paris Las Vegas on the concierge floor, with access to the lounge. Plenty of food there, nice quiet atmosphere - I hardly ever ate out except at the Mon Ami Gabi restaurant downatairs (steak frites were excellent). No problem dining alone in the bar, although the room facing the Bellagio fountains is nice.

Taking the bus is a time-consuming pain in the ass, just take the tram a couple of stops and walk to your destination. Or get a cab.

Fremont Street Experience is not all that. You could skip that entire end of the strip and not miss a thing - it's definitely not "old Las Vegas" glamorous, it's pretty seedy. If you go, don't walk anywhere off-Strip at night.

by Anonymousreply 801/26/2013

Thanks, R8. There's a company dinner at Mon Ami Gabi during the "business part" of my stay, so that's great to hear it's recommended! I'll be staying at the Bally's, which is "attached" to Paris. Is it worth the cost and wait to go up in the Eiffle Tower? Or should I just skip that and hit the Stratosphere tower?

Thanks for the advice, that's exactly the kind of stuff I was looking for!

by Anonymousreply 901/26/2013

See Cirque du Soleil's Kà at the MGM Grand. It's a stunning spectacle. Skip all other Cirque shows.

by Anonymousreply 1001/26/2013

Do NOT skip Cirque's Zumanity. It is beyond sexy, even if you see it alone.

Also, don't walk. It's cheap to get an all-day ticket for the bus that rides the entire strip. If you think "Oh, I think I'll walk down to that hotel," it may look close by, but by the time you get there it'll be a half-hour later and you'll be drenched in sweat.

by Anonymousreply 1101/26/2013

Hoover Dam tour, if possible, is definitely worth the trip. And make sure to check out the new bridge that reroutes the traffic that formerly had to drive on the dam itself.

Bellagio: Make sure to check out the conservatory (free) where they have huge seasonal floral displays that change every couple of months.

The Ethel M Chocolate Factory has a free tour and a nice cactus garden, if you're into such things.

Other than that, I'd just check out whichever of the big casinos interest you the most in terms of attractions, architecture, etc.

by Anonymousreply 1201/26/2013

The Neon Museum is AMAZING - but you need to reserve a spot in advance.

A mobster museum was set to open - this month I think.

I thought freemont experience was a waste of time.

rent a car and go to Red Rock state park.

by Anonymousreply 1301/26/2013

R 12 again - yes Zumanity was good.

by Anonymousreply 1401/26/2013

The ET restaurant at ParisLV is meh.

However, the bar and the happy hour bar food in the pod at the Stratosphere is worth the visit. That and it's the best view of Las Vegas in town. Lunch in the revolving restaurant is a bargain for a view place. One of my faves.

by Anonymousreply 1501/26/2013

Staying at Bally's is fine - rooms are a little less fancy than Paris, but you're only going to be there to sleep. You can just walk down the interior walkway between Bally's and Paris: there are a lot of places there to eat or to pick up some food (the crepe place is very good).

Unless you can get a freebie for the Eiffel Tower I'd skip it, it's not that impressive although you do get a high-level view of the fountains. I'd definitely choose the Strat tower - are you going on the rooftop rollercoaster?! That is one wild ride!

Hope you have fun, Las Vegas is a lot more than just gambling. I love walking around, people-watching, stopping for a drink, etc.

by Anonymousreply 1601/26/2013

Agree with r10, but if there was a 2nd Cirque, I'd go to the funky Zumanity.

Another show called Absinthe is in the same genre and is also highly recommended.

by Anonymousreply 1701/26/2013

OP, are you a status queen or a normal person?

by Anonymousreply 1801/26/2013

The chandelier bar & wicked spoon buffet in the cosmopolitan are very good.

The asian/chinatown area has excellent food & cheap. eating on the strip is very expensive but lots of good happy hour deals (early and late night) around...

by Anonymousreply 1901/26/2013

Remember 95% of people going to LV are pretending. They buy expensive outfits for every night ( and then return them the following week where they actually live.} Everyone has a high paying/power job and drive posh cars. If you like playing games aside from gambling then go to all the Wynn properties.

by Anonymousreply 2001/26/2013

[quote]OP, are you a status queen or a normal person?

Normal. Boring. Nerdy. Introvert.

by Anonymousreply 2101/26/2013

Here is a link to some of the gay clubs in Las Vegas.

If you'd prefer to stay on the strip, I agree with other posters, visit KA' at the MGM Grand and skip the other Cirque shows.

by Anonymousreply 2201/26/2013

The Bellagio has a pretty good fine art gallery. New Warhol exhibit starts Feb. 8.

by Anonymousreply 2301/26/2013

This is cool

by Anonymousreply 2401/26/2013

What are the shows to watch that have frontal nudity. Wasn't there this new male revue show with a circus theme?

by Anonymousreply 2501/26/2013

The view from Stratosphere Tower is fucking spectacular especially at night. Try and get there. Status queens would never go there because the casino is very old school. The tower {Top of the World} restaurant is VERY good and the wine list is excellent. It's worth going for lunch or dinner. Plus it rotates so you see all of LV.

by Anonymousreply 2601/26/2013

Huff some ether and go to Circus Circus.

by Anonymousreply 2701/26/2013

I, personally, love the Mirage. Turn on your Grindr there, you'd be surprised.

The best buffet in Vegas is at TI. By far.

by Anonymousreply 2801/26/2013

The Hoover Dam tour is great. When they take you to where you can look through the ventilation shaft you get an awesome view of the river and the new bridge (named for Pat Tillman).

I always like going to the Hofbrauhaus for German food and beer. They have a band that plays everything from German drinking songs, the Star Spangled Banner, and Sweet Caroline. Get the prtezel with hot mustard.

The roller coaster on top of the Stratosphere is cool, and so is the Big Shot if they still have it. It shoots you up in the air and you bounce up and down a few times. Great view from either of those rides.

by Anonymousreply 2901/26/2013

Catching the Duece bus is handy for longer distances but I don't think the trip to Freemont St is worth it if you only have 2 days. Maybe catch it down to NY, NY and explore your way back to your hotel? Or bus down to Wynn and do the same thing.

Did you want to do any shopping OP? Miracle Mile, The Forum and Fashion Mall are good. The outlet stores are too time consuming and not that great.

I'd vote for a day trip to Hoover Dam/GC.

by Anonymousreply 3001/26/2013

Share nightclub (gay) is off the strip but not a bad cab ride and a good club. There are also several clubs in 'The Fruit Loop' - just take a cab to Pirhana and you can go to the others nearby.

Gordon Ramsey just opened a new burger place in Planet Hollywood called BurGR. It's very good, the 3 kinds of fries are great.

There's a very cool bar at the Mandarin Oriental (in City Center, near Aria) on like the 28th floor that has a great view, just ask the concierge in the lobby & he will tell you which elevator & which floor. Great for an evening nightcap.

I second / third the Zumanity recommendation.

Mandalay Bay is reputed to have the cruisiest spa, though I've not been myself. You do not have to be a guest, just pay the day fee.

by Anonymousreply 3101/26/2013

Don't forget to go to VerSAYce!

by Anonymousreply 3201/26/2013

Zumanity has to be the WORSE Cirque show I have ever seen. Purile "sex" humor and about as sexy as a prostate exam. The tired first Cirque show at TI is infinitely better.

by Anonymousreply 3301/26/2013

We're going tomorrow OP!!

I agree r33 about Zumanity.

by Anonymousreply 3401/26/2013

I'm sort of like you, OP, although 20 years older. But gay, introverted, nerdy. I go to Vegas frequently since it's only a 3.5 hour drive from my home. I already gave some tips upthread, but would add that if the weather is decent, it's fun just to walk up and down the strip (although the pedestrian traffic can be maddening-- it's worse than NYC.) I'm not much into seeing shows myself, but if you are, there are discount tickets to be had at several locations. The main one is in the Showcase Mall which is just north of the MGM Grand (look for M&M World and the giant Coke bottle.)

by Anonymousreply 3501/26/2013

Be sure to stay in a hotel that is near the middle of the strip. This will make your life a LOT easier. The Cosmopolitan is the best place to stay - IMO. The Mirage is best location and best bang for your buck.

I'll give you the agenda for Friday: Classy Las Vegas

Friday morning, get up and go to breakfast at Bouchon. Truly the best breakfast in all of NV. A hidden, elegant gem with omg food. This is in the Venetian - no reservation necessary. It's not on the main level, you have to find the right elevators and get to the right floor. Etc. Just ask for directions.

Then do a walking tour of the major hotels:

The Wynn (for it's massive art collection)

The Venetian (biggest hotel, huge indoor shopping)


The Mirage (see the white lions at their zoo)

Cesar's Palace

Bellagio (see the outdoor fountain show, indoor art scapes and gardens)

This could take up a lot of your day. See the outside and inside of each of those hotels. Design marvels, each one. Consider this like walking through a European city.

After your epic walking tour - go back to your hotel, jump into the spa's hot tub and relax. Then a nap in your hotel room. Shower and off to dinner and a show.

For Friday night I would get a ticket to see either Celine Dion or any of the Cirque de Soleil shows. Just so you can see what a five-star Las Vegas show is all about.

You'll absolutely need to make dinner reservations for yourself well in advance for almost anywhere you might want to eat on both Friday and Saturday nights.

by Anonymousreply 3601/26/2013

I go to Vegas once a month (live in LA). Was jut there two weeks back.

Definitely stay somewhere center strip. Suggestions would be Caeser's, Flamingo, Bally's Paris.

Take note.. Flamingo and Bally's are not "nice" hotels. They're decent, but run down compared to Bellagio, Caeser's, Paris, etc.

If you stay at either Flamingo or Bally's request a room in their newly renovated towers.

As far as transportation, you don't need it. You'll walk through most of it, or take the Vegas Tram (Both Flamingo and Bally's have stations). Get a multiple day pass if you plan to go up and down the strip a lot, but I've found, if you're not in bad shape, you can just walk the strip. By the time you walk to the back of a hotel with a tram station (unless you're already staying there), you could have just walked to whatever hotel you're trying to get at.

See one of the Cirque shows, but go with one of the classics like Love or O.

Tons of restaurants to go to and I can recommend a few if I know what youre looking for and what your budget is.

Tons of shopping there too.

Spas galore (with a lot of action if you're into that).

Any other questions, just ask.

by Anonymousreply 3701/26/2013

Spas galore?

Also, anyone have any first-hand reviews of gay bars to see or avoid?

by Anonymousreply 3801/27/2013

[quote]Do NOT skip Cirque's Zumanity. It is beyond sexy, even if you see it alone.

I found Zumanity to be dull, dull, dull. Lots of hype for little return. Absinthe was better -- more intimate (tiny venue), and much more fun. The performers were just as terrific as those from Cirque, and the banter between the MC and his sidekick was amusing.

by Anonymousreply 3901/27/2013

Don't walk.

by Anonymousreply 4001/27/2013

I stayed at Aria and Ceasar's Palace on different trips. Both hotels are massive and you can entertain yourself just within its complex. Aria had a wonderful spa with an infinity pool off the balcony...but if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for Ceasar's Palace. Ceasar's Palace has the forum shops, the theatre concerts (I saw Elton John there over the summer), Forum shopping and high end restaurants and nightclubs. Ceasar's also has a beautiful pool area as most of the hotels have. If you are into buffet and all you can eat, Ceasar's boast the best buffet in Vegas. But beware of the long lines on the weekends.

by Anonymousreply 4101/27/2013

Everyone in Vegas argues about the "best" buffet, show, experience. There is no consensus. Unless you want to see a huge variety of food and are a big eater, I'd avoid the buffets. The $15 steak or prime rib dinner at Bill's Place, diagonal from Bellagio, offers top quality beef. In general the best values are a few blocks off the strip. The "local" casinos half to do something to attract tourists.

China Town, near where I live, is considered small and over-priced, unless you've never been to a similar place. Locals laugh because it combines all Asian cultures.

The Fremont Experience with the huge laser light show is appealing, for the 5 minutes it lasts. There is Drink&Drag, the new gay bar/entertainment venue that appeals to some.

Krave, next to Planet Hollywood, is better established and in a classier neighborhood. Yes there are "dive" gay bars off of the strip. Personally I don't think it's worth the cab ride to get there, as they're not in the best areas of town, and Vegas cab drivers are sometimes known to rip-off tourists.

There are male strip shows that sometimes allow men. Most of them perform for private all male parties after hours. I see constant ads on Craigslist for "models" for high-end parties as well. Many in Vegas prefer to be fly under the radar. It's well-known that most male waiters and room service employees offer extra services for tips.

Definitely check out the huge floral display at the Bellagio, currently featuring Chinese New Year through Feb. The elaborate fountains set to various music pieces "perform" every 15 min after 6pm. The free outside pirate show with fireworks nearby at Treasure Island, and the frequently exploding volcano at Mirage are also well worth seeing.

I'd go to the no cover bar at Stratosphere for the best view of the strip. Top level shopping at Ceasars' Palace Forum Shops, with the unusual circular staircase, or the deceptively huge Fashion Show Mall half a block away are very popular with tourists. We now have double-decker express buses and a monorail style line frequently cruising the strip that takes visitors to either of the outlet malls, for those who like bargains.

Personally I've found that it's too easy to get visual "overkill" from looking at all of the "free stuff" in Vegas, so that I my guests don't even want to pay for a show with more stimuli. Ka, apparently because of it's bisexual implications, is what Tom Cruise sees every single time he's in Vegas; he's a creature of habit or totally OCD, according to a cabdriver friend.

If you have any specific questions, I'll try to answer them. Yes I'm a straight female but I try to know everything that goes on in Vegas. Just saw a great free magic show, one of the many afternoon or early evening sources of entertainment. Don't know if it will be warm enough for the pools to be open when you visit, that's where the hottest public action occurs for EVERYONE that's in shape. There are gay themed days as well. Did you know that there's a gay oriented resort off-strip?

by Anonymousreply 4201/27/2013

Well, I'm there on business. So the hotel isn't up for my choosing, neither are the dates. It's mid-March, and it's Bally's. And I only have two days free to do my own thing: Friday and Saturday.

by Anonymousreply 4301/27/2013

I normally don't like Buffets, but I will say that the new Buffet at Caeser's is actually really good and worth checking out.

by Anonymousreply 4401/27/2013

"Rosanne Live" her new Residency Show @ The Tropicana #AlaughRiot

by Anonymousreply 4501/27/2013

OP, stay away from the downtown area and Freemont Street altogether. It's full of pickpockets, thieves, rapists and gangmembers. In fact, most of Las Vegas off the strip is full of gangmembers, and you will stand out as a victim to them. And as a gay person believe me, the Freemont Experience is tacky and stupid. You will miss nothing.

Even walking down the Strip by yourself requires awareness, so be careful.

The best food, hands down, is at the Bellagio. And it's pretty reasonable for what you get.

There are many gay people living in Vegas who frequent the local gay bars, but don't go to nightclubs. Ask a cocktail waitress or other local who lives there where the gays go.

Take a tour bus (the hotels are full of brochures) on any trips off the beaten path. Just seeing the desert is pretty spectacular.

Oh, and watch out for the bedbugs!

by Anonymousreply 4601/27/2013

R44, I did find the quality of food at Caesar's buffet superior (fresh orange juice) but it really depends on if you like huge portions or a tremendous variety of food. Many overeat and get sick because of the hyper stimulation that is Vegas in general. It's like the free liquor that they give you when you gamble or the cheap drinks. My motto is "order a beer, or be careful of the below generic quality served in most places."

I used to work at Bellagio, and the food even for the employees is superior, if you don't mind high prices.

I agree that I'd stay on the strip if I was only in Vegas for a few days. Even when I'd watch TI's pirate show, I'd sit in the nearby bar and order a drink, rather than stand in a crowd. Bring comfortable walking shoes.

There are plenty of day trips to the Grand Canyon or Boulder Dam that stop at Ethel M's Chocolate Factory. Rather than ask the busy cocktail waitresses, I'd ask the salesmen at Sak's, where a girlfriend works, at Fashion Show Mall for tips on the best gay bars and hangouts. Personally it really depends on what crowd (business or show people) /income level/age you seek where you choose to party. Everyone knows the best are the private ones held in upscale residences.

By the way the male employees of Palms and Hard Rock are young, hip, and typically gay/very gay friendly. It's the younger, newer casinos that recognize the monetary power of "non-traditional" casino guests.

by Anonymousreply 4701/27/2013

The roller coaster atop the Stratosphere has been gone for nearly two years, the other rides are still there and they have a new teeter-totter type ride that goes off the edge, literally 700 feet straight down. If you go on rides, whatever you do skip the coaster at NYNY unless you like having your bones rattled good and hard.

by Anonymousreply 4801/27/2013

If you go to the TI Pirate show or the Mirage volcano, be aware that both places are pickpocket heaven. And I would avoid the Fremont Street area completely - nothing to see there that's worth the trip.

by Anonymousreply 4901/27/2013

That's good advice, R48... I love roller-coasters, and was planning on doing that one. But I hate bone-rattlers or painful coasters.


by Anonymousreply 5001/27/2013

Bally's is perfect because it's right in the middle of the strip.

If you want to gamble just for kicks, next door to Bally's is The Paris Hotel. Inside on the first floor are slot machines that cost a penny.

by Anonymousreply 5101/27/2013

Pink Jeep tours -- seriously. Lots of fun. The Red Rock Canyon tour is not long and stunning. Or, of course, you can take the tour to the Grand Canyon etc. The jeeps are smaller and very comfortable...and they pick youu up at your hotel. I loved the tour to Death Valley myself -- but it was a full day.

by Anonymousreply 5201/27/2013

R51, have you ever been to Vegas? Penny slots are on every casino floor (they bring in the most revenue for the casino), not just Paris. The older penny slots let you literally bet a penny at a time, but the newer ones don't work unless you bet a minimum of 30, 40, or 50 cents per pull.

by Anonymousreply 5301/27/2013


I was going to say the same thing. Penny slots are everywhere. It can actually be difficult to find 25 cent machines.

by Anonymousreply 5401/27/2013

[quote]as a gay person believe me, the Freemont Experience is tacky and stupid.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Gay guy here, and I love downtown. I go to Vegas about every two years. Last time I stayed at the El Cortez, right downtown, dirt cheap, clean and had a good time.

Freemont Experience should be viewed by everyone at least once. Yes it's short, and once you've seen it, well time to move on.

I love the zip line down main street, love the brew pub at Main Street Station.

I love the convenience of being able to walk to 10 casinos in minutes. Yes it's filled with lots of Honey Boo Boo's relatives, but that just makes for some great people watching.

I just booked airfare for the end of March, will probably stay downtown again.

Casinos on the strip are beautiful, big and glitzy, but over priced.

Enjoy your trip OP.

by Anonymousreply 5501/27/2013


Hotels on the strip are overpriced?

I routinely go to Vegas and get rooms on the strip for $25/night (Flamingo, Planet Hollywood, MGM, etc) during the week and under $125 during the weekend.

Just how cheap are the rooms Downtown?

by Anonymousreply 5601/27/2013

A friend just came back from a gay golf tournament. He stayed here.

by Anonymousreply 5701/27/2013

$9.99, R56. $6.99 on weekdays.

by Anonymousreply 5801/27/2013

Please post some links R56. I'm going March 21 thru 24. Flamingo, and Aria are all 200 a night. I would rather spend 70 bucks and enjoy a nice show or dinner.

Even downtown is not cheap. Golden Nugget is 124 a night, I've stayed there before, it's a nice hotel. I'm also thinking of the Plaza downtown, it was just remodeled 2 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 5901/27/2013

I was there last weekend and stayed at Mandalay. Yes, the spa is very nice and cruisy every time and it's good because it's one of the few where you can hear the 1st door opening.

I went to Share and it was pretty cool, diverse crowd, a lot of strippers - maybe 10, who apparently try hard to get people to go to a private room for a lot of money. I saw a lot of guys getting dragged by strippers.

Krave at Planet Hollywood closed and will re-open later this year downtown.

I went to Pirhana bu they wanted $20 cover and I wasn't planning on staying so I didn't go in. The Eagle wasn't good or crowded when I went. The Garage has a car theme and it had a good crowd and nice setup.

I've stayed at Wynn, Caesars, MGM, Hilton, Luxor, and maybe a few others. They're all nice enough, but you're probably not going to be spending a lot of time in your room so don't spend too much money on it.

by Anonymousreply 6001/27/2013

Don't miss "Jersey Boys"!

by Anonymousreply 6101/27/2013

Weekends are expensive no matter where you go.

by Anonymousreply 6201/27/2013

[quote]who apparently try hard to get people to go to a private room for a lot of money

What happens in the private room? Sex? Isn't that illegal?

by Anonymousreply 6301/27/2013

What is Krave at Planet Hollywood?

by Anonymousreply 6401/27/2013

All of Vegas is shit. I live here. Go downtown to Fremont Street East- all new clubs bars and food courtesy of Tony Hsehi. Cab it, and its safe

by Anonymousreply 6501/27/2013

Glad for this thread - we are visiting friends in a few months, they just moved there and we'll be staying somewhere on the Strip.

by Anonymousreply 6601/27/2013

[quote]all new clubs bars and food courtesy of Tony Hsehi

Is he a new chef?

by Anonymousreply 6701/27/2013

I think it's HSIEH, and he's the Zappo's founder.

by Anonymousreply 6801/27/2013

Why won't you be staying with your friends, R66?

by Anonymousreply 6901/27/2013

There's an App you can download called Hotel Tonight and you can get a great deals but the only downside is you book that day. I got a great room at Ceasar's for $75 a night.

by Anonymousreply 7001/27/2013

R69 My partner is very tall (6'6") and we need a king bed - a spare full size bed won't cut it.

And yeah, we like to splurge a bit during travel, too. Nothing whacked out but it's been our experience that even $20 difference in a hotel room can make a huge difference in comfort and cleanliness, so we aim for the midprice hotels.

by Anonymousreply 7101/27/2013

r53 here. The penny slots in the Paris Hotel Casino let you pull 1 cent at a time. One dollar. One hundred pulls. That's why I mentioned it.

by Anonymousreply 7201/27/2013

[quote]If you go on rides, whatever you do skip the coaster at NYNY unless you like having your bones rattled good and hard.

I personally LOVED the coaster at NY/NY. My partner HATED it. It is pretty rough, I'll admit.

by Anonymousreply 7301/27/2013

You don't need any advice. There's so much to do in the city that you'll find more than enough to fill your days.

One bit of advice: Forget taking the bus. They're jam packed and take forever to get anyplace.

by Anonymousreply 7401/27/2013

Krave was the only gay bar on the strip

by Anonymousreply 7501/27/2013

Hire Presidential Limousine to take you around and see the sights at night. They stop at all the attractions and you just sit in the back drinking champers. If you don't want to hang out with the hoi polloi just roll down the window and wave. Stay at the Wynn, it's the only decent hotel in Vegas and the restaurants and service are top notch. There's a show there too, La Reve, that some people say isn't amazing but I enjoyed it, lots of male eye candy to see. I was interested in going to a gay club too but there doesn't seem to be anything worthwhile in Vegas. The straight clubs look amazing but hanging out with 16 year old divas is not my thing.

by Anonymousreply 7601/27/2013

Wynn isn't the only decent hotel in Vegas! I think you're being a bit dramatic R76. If you'd bothered to read OP's posts you'd see that he is booked in at Ballys for work. Hiring a Limo is the lamest suggestion so far. Not to be a bitch or anything.

by Anonymousreply 7701/27/2013


by Anonymousreply 7801/27/2013

R67, R68, Tony to some is downtown Vegas's new God. He developed online Zappos and is moving his company HQ from the bedroom community of Henderson, spurring the decaying non-strip casinos' and surrounding businesses development. There are new small restaurants and entertainment venues to rival the growing Arts District off of Charleston. I feel that those used to New York City will be able to handle the low class craziness of downtown Vegas. Others are very disappointed in the older frau haven and drunken crowds. Expected gambling and food bargains are fewer every year.

OP, have a snack at the poolside Palms Casino if you want to see almost naked hot gay guys, then ask them where the private parties are happening.

by Anonymousreply 7901/28/2013

If you really want a glimpse of the future OP, but unfortunately you aren't avail weekdays, take the Zappo's Tour. A frightening world where Xs,Ys and Millenials rule from the sandbox.

Have hot chocolate and popcorn for breakfast and, for the love of God, PRESS THE DON'T PRESS EVER button. [It starts a 'minute madness' dance party.]

by Anonymousreply 8001/28/2013

[quote] Not to be a bitch or anything.

It's Datalounge, hon. Fly your bitch flag as high as you like!

by Anonymousreply 8101/28/2013

R64 - Krave was a gay bar attached to the Planet Hollywood hotel. It closed in late 2012. It is re-opening in spring of 2013 as "Krave Massive" in an 80,000 sq. foot space in downtown Las Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 8201/28/2013

R80, Too funny. Took the Zappos tour with a group of senior ladies who talked about being required to wear gloves with their business suits when working in NYC. Zappos is supposed to be a fun atmosphere where you will want to come to work and be creative. There's even a very comfy "sleeping room" for naps. The place is decorated with a jungle or monkey them; the owners' favorite animal. So many Vegans want to work there that you literally must know someone to get you an interview. You will be asked creative questions like, "Are you lucky?" Guess what the answer should be. It's also a very gay-friendly co, especially if you're a innovative techie.

by Anonymousreply 8301/28/2013

R71, The Palms is famous for offering extra long beds for the frequent guests that are pro-Basketballers. Many have begged to buy the bedding that actually fits the beds.

by Anonymousreply 8401/28/2013


The person who posted used the word, "Champers.." clearly no one should be taking his advice.

by Anonymousreply 8501/28/2013

R83 -- I am sure most people there are glad to have paychecks coming in, but the whole Zappos mentality is very intrusive. If you like that sort of relationship with managers and co-workers, I suppose it is fine, but its all very puerile in there.

by Anonymousreply 8601/28/2013

Stay away from the Palms unless you want to catch Kardashian Kooties!

by Anonymousreply 8701/28/2013

R87, It's not the Palms which has the Kuntrashian clothing store. Many nightclubs pay pseudo celebs huge bucks to show up and "promote" their special events.

by Anonymousreply 8801/28/2013

R86, You should visit R&R Advertising, which handles promotions for Vegas, for fake corporate silliness, including indoor basketball games and toys, supposedly to enhance creativity.

Krave is now located inside the Rio, and opens at 10:30 pm. Take the free shuttle from Bally's to cross the strip. Don't know cover or crowd; I'm sure that it varies. While there, take the rooftop shuttle to the Voodoo Lounge for a quick view of the strip.

by Anonymousreply 8901/28/2013

If you want to be depressed or demoralized, go to Sam's Town out on Boulder HIghway. They market hard to all the retirees so go there and watch all the people coming in on walkers, scooters and canes to play the machines, build up points for discounts at the buffet and gamble their retirement savings away. You can also find the retirees at any strip casino in the mornings after the party crowd has called it a night.

Needless to say, I don't like Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 9001/28/2013

RR Advertising is a shithole fake-ass disgrace that would be unable to compete anywhere else than Vegas, LA, Phoenix - where they have satellite offices. In NYC, they'd be laughed out of town.

by Anonymousreply 9101/30/2013

I'm not a frau but here's an AWESOME Groupon for Aliante Casino! I've have stayed there and it a very nice hotel and casino. It's in North LV but not the shitty part of N. LV but a newly developed part. I've lived in LV so I know the area. You will need to rent a car or drive to LV. I love staying here because I personally don't want to be around the drunks and craziness of a Strip hotel. It's clean , well designed, an relatively new. All of the restaurants on site are good plus they have a full stadium theater with IMAX inside the casino. I pick and choose were I go and I'm not stuck in car and people traffic. I just take the 15 to the 43 highway up and and there's the Alianta. :)

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by Anonymousreply 9401/30/2013

Enjoy Vegas. As for me, I've made up my mind to make a new start, going to California with an aching in my heart.

by Anonymousreply 9501/30/2013

Do a ride on top of the Stratosphere - nothing else like it in the world. Scary as hell being so high up there and going around and around.

But well worth it. Such a rush.

by Anonymousreply 9601/30/2013

Aliante Station is nice, but it's MILES away from the Strip. You might as well stay in Lake Las Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 9701/30/2013

You can't compare AT ALL Aliante Casino vs Lake Las Vegas, r97.

Sheeeesh gurl, at least compare it to something close to its equal.

Aliante Casino is wonderful and thank you for the link r92. It's about 15 min by freeway away from Sahara and the strip. That's no time. Free parking at most casinos makes it easy.

by Anonymousreply 9801/31/2013

Favorite Vegas restaurant considering the quality of food for the price is Simon's at Palms Place, (condos next to Palms Casino.) Formerly at the Hard Rock, and with a more relaxing atmosphere, it's known for healthier copycats of Hostess desserts. I like the French dip (with salad instead of fries) for lunch.

by Anonymousreply 9901/31/2013

Wicked Spoon is excellent suggestion.

by Anonymousreply 10001/31/2013

I love that little off strip Italian restaurant Battista's. Nice prix fix menu & great atmosphere, including an accordion player. Can't beat all you can drink free wine--even if it is cheap wine.

by Anonymousreply 10101/31/2013

I'm leaving tomorrow... any last minute suggestions?

by Anonymousreply 10203/18/2013

Ladies' room at the Bellagio.

by Anonymousreply 10303/18/2013

Do NOT, and I repeat DO NOT, wear your most flattering, copper satin open toed shoes with a bow in the rest room. And hang that Vera Bradley bag on the FUCKING hook on the stall door. If you see a flood of feces, RUN, don't walk!

by Anonymousreply 10403/18/2013

R103 and R104

I love that that got mentioned here.

by Anonymousreply 10503/18/2013


I dined at Battista's once and only once. I thought it was disgusting. The food was not good and way over salted. Maybe it was just an off-night or something but everything we ordered tasted like they had emptied containers of salt on it all.

by Anonymousreply 10603/18/2013

OP, If you're on a budget the $6.99 prime rib dinner (order an end cut) at the Palms coffee shop is a steal. Otherwise go next door to Simon's at Palms Place Condos.

Then get a snack/drink overlooking the pool that just opened. Plenty of eye candy, as Palms is known for being very gay friendly.

by Anonymousreply 10703/18/2013

Be sure to say hi to Elvis impersonator Jesse Garron!

by Anonymousreply 10803/19/2013

I love downtown, but then again, I WANT Vegas to be trashier. I want seediness and ridiculous themes everywhere (the new "tasteful" hotels like the Aria could be anywhere).

I don't want to see Cirque. I want to see down-at-heel Elvis impersonators trudge past pensioners on oxygen tanks at the penny slots.

I don't want to see Celine Dion. I want to see faded lounge acts perform "Having My Baby" and "By the Time I Get to Phoenix."

I don't want "ultra-lounges" or restaurants by Gordon Ramsay. I want dive bars filled with degenerate gamblers and Hugo's Cellar in the basement of the Four Queens, a rundown old steakhouse where female diners still receive a red rose.

But to each his own Vegas! Have a great time, OP.

by Anonymousreply 10903/19/2013

How was your trip?

by Anonymousreply 11004/17/2013

Stop by the very gay friendly Carnival Court located between Harrahs and the old Imperial Palace, renamed the supposed more hip The Quad. Continuous live bands alternating with top DJ's between about 1 pm -- 4 am 7 days a week. The music lineup and crowd appeal changes from 80's to classic rock to more hip offerings as it gets later at night.

No cover, hot flair bartenders juggling lighted torches and offering free shots at the bar "Ti Juana" style (no cups allowed) and continuous entertainment. No I'm not a shill, just publicly thanking the bar for a fab place to dance. Halloween is the best with 4 nights of $10,000 costume contests.

by Anonymousreply 11104/18/2013

I was not OP but posted at R66.

We went but wow, Vegas is SO not my style. Stayed at the Wynn, which was very nice but still a little too over the top for me. Great food, though.

The whole place was just Caligula - I think I stopped counting how many young girls were puking on themselves or into the plants. The Wynn had some seriously tranny looking waitstaff - all those bitches looked hard and had skirts so short the snatch was a sneeze away.

by Anonymousreply 11204/18/2013

R112, Wynn has long had a rep for hiring cocktail waitresses in 1 of 2 categories. Either they have a close relative that's a high level badly needed manager at his casino, or they're always available to his high rollers (usually Asian) and himself when desired in exchange for at least $75,000 yr in tips, salary and benefits. Drug testing is the norm in Vegas for most positions, especially in casinos, although Wynn is a well-known coke addict. EMT's are available at all nightclubs for the inevitable trips to the emergency rooms.

by Anonymousreply 11304/18/2013

Stay away new "Light Night Club" at Mandalay Place.

They split the ticket sales into female and male so the club doesn't attract gay men.


by Anonymousreply 11406/20/2013

R114, Can't stand The Light Group chain of nightclubs and now dayclubs. They've got a rep for being the most corrupt and racist in Vegas, with the worst possible attitudes.

by Anonymousreply 11506/20/2013

Racist and homophobic.

Does the Light Group of nightclubs have whites only tickets too?

by Anonymousreply 11606/20/2013

R116, They're very racist, sexist, lookist and homophobic in they're hiring practices and in their admission to their clubs. They regularly pull "bait and switch" come ons and have a strong rep for false advertising.

Palms Casino is much more egalitarian and welcoming to all.

by Anonymousreply 11706/20/2013

I just stay in my room and have Hot Hungry DL Vegas boys come bend over who wants to go to a fucking club...

by Anonymousreply 11806/22/2013
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