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People that are drunks/drug addicts that become Jesus it really just trading one addiction for another

Or is there something deeper going?

(I'm not talking about folks in AA that believe in a higher power)

by Anonymousreply 901/26/2013

I'd like to put them in a room with the Bible and whatever it is they were addicted to, and see which one they go for

by Anonymousreply 101/26/2013

They tend to be terribly weak people who have no ego strength, and who need something external prop--drugs, Jesus, scientology--to prop them up.

The proof? You always hear people say that they had reached the nadir of their life, and then they found Jesus. You never hear people say they reached the zenith of their life and found Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 201/26/2013

Because its the core message of Christianity. Life can be tough, temptation to all sorts of addictive things are all around. Our minds are often not powerful enough to get us out of our pits, but having faith in God can (and does) for millions of addicts. I would challenge your assumption that the recovering addict who has found salvation will choose his vice over his faith. Because in reality we (the addict) struggle daily over that very thing.

by Anonymousreply 301/26/2013

It's a psychological return to early childhood, where the parental figure watches everything you do, and punishes you when you're bad. Or so you believe.

People whose lives are totally out of control can find this very comforting, even the idea that the Allfather will punish you if you mess up. In desperate circumstances, an unpleasant form of order can seem better than chaos.

by Anonymousreply 401/26/2013

OP, it is just that trusting in and believing in Jesus turning from sin and living a totally Jesus-centric life. Alcoholics and drug addicts are gonna live differently after they come to faith in Christ. So will every other believer in Jesus. Everyone will change if their faith is genuine. Everyone

by Anonymousreply 501/26/2013

It's a play for attention, like most human behavior.

by Anonymousreply 601/26/2013

Yes, they're just trading one addiction for another.

The Texas pick-ax killer Karla Faye Tucker was a hard-core drug addict. She first tried heroin at age TEN. She was supposedly amped up on speed the night she and her boyfriend broke into a man's apartment and chopped up him and his one night stand with a pick-ax. After being convicted of murder and sent to death row she no longer had any access to drugs, so she became a fervent born-again Christian. Religion was her drug, the only drug she was able to get a hold of in prison.

I tend to think that if Karla Faye Tucker had gotten out of prison she would have gone back to pills and speed and heroin. If she had had the freedom to choose between drugs and a substitute for drugs, which religion certainly was, she would have chosen the drugs. She liked the "exciting" life; church and prayer would definitely have bored her after a while.

by Anonymousreply 701/26/2013

"Alcoholics and drug addicts are gonna live differently after they come to faith in Christ. So will every other believer in Jesus"

Not in the real world. Here on Earth, Christians are just as likely to abuse substances, torment their loved ones, or commit adultery and crimes, as the rest of us. Regular church-goers are slightly more likely to save face about it, that's about the only real difference.

by Anonymousreply 801/26/2013

Wow. DL has gotten churchy.

by Anonymousreply 901/26/2013
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