No one on here wants to be called a faggot so why do we turn around and call women fraus? It's derogatory and shouldn't be used.
Stop using the word frau, please!
|by Anonymous||reply 248||06/29/2013|
“There’s a Peter Pan generation of women who haven’t had to grow up, who feel like the world owes them something. They’re rich and white and spoiled, and they expect everything while doing nothing. They’re the end of civilization, these women.”—Isla Fisher in the September 2012 issue of ELLE US
This describes a frau. People -- including other women -- all recognize her
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/16/2013|
Frau means "Mrs." in German.
It's not derogatory, at least I don't think it is.
I don't use the word however.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/16/2013|
please! .... Frau is just a German Mrs.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/16/2013|
So what do we call men like that, r2?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/16/2013|
I meant r1.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/16/2013|
[quote]So what do we call men like that, [R2]?
The counterpart of "frau" in German is "herr." feel free to use it.
I refuse to agree that a word that just means "Missus" in German is derogatory. OP is an hysteric.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/16/2013|
[quote]That description applies to what many think of gay men too fool.
Tell us more about life in your country where English is not spoken.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/16/2013|
Is it a word that wounds?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/16/2013|
Perhaps, r15, you could get over your little hissy fit and re-read your words in the gray box at r10, and then explain to us what you actually [italic]meant[/italic] to write.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/16/2013|
I'm a frau and I love the frau threads. We haven't had a good one in a while. I especially like the collaborative office pot luck threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||01/16/2013|
"I CAN SHOVE A WHOLE MIDGET UP MY ASSHOLE"
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/16/2013|
I'M JAN BREWER'S GUNT MASSEURS! "
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/16/2013|
@ R12 As well as "slit" I assume?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/16/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/16/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/16/2013|
I'm a straight gal who loves the word frau to describe housewives/soccer moms.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/16/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/16/2013|
Be gone, frau!!!
Your pussy has no power here!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/16/2013|
"I LOVE PUFF PAINT AND SEQUIN SWEATSHIRTS"
|by Anonymous||reply 34||01/16/2013|
I'm hoping for more frau threads after reading this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/16/2013|
What are you afraud of?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/16/2013|
But what if we are German?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/16/2013|
I am female and find the use of "frau" amusing. It has no power to pigeonhole me because I am not one to apply labels to others or to myself. I enjoy the conversations here, the random and inclusive name calling and find it funny rather than hurtful. Now, if you met me face to face and labeled me a frau because you saw me as dumpy, petty, self-absorbed, and overly concerned about feeding my family I might take a serious look at what I've become. But not me, I'm awesome!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/16/2013|
OP, "Frau" is not the equivalent of other slurs just because your cunt is in the wringer over it. I suppose if someone starting referring to "droles" you'd feel free to scream at the "faggots" over that, too.
You just want gay men to lick your pussy, because you think that's all your power is worth. Sorry. Nope.
And, by the way, I'm German, so I REALLY don't get your ire except for the absurd twattery it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/17/2013|
R33= accurate as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/17/2013|
[quote]Thank you for trying, OP.
Yeah. What a service he's done for the world, demanding that a group of random, anonymous strangers stop using the term 'frau.'
I hope the Nobel Committee is reading.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||01/17/2013|
Sometimes I think we are better than racists and homophobes because we know what it's like to be treated like shit. But then I wake up and realize, no we're not. We're just as ignorant. So fucking sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||01/17/2013|
Frau has never been a term for women, it describes a certain subset of women. Not saying it isnt a slur here but i get what posters mean when they use it.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||01/17/2013|
"Frau" is usually used as a dismissive term for straight woman. No distinctions are made, and it cultivates an "us vs. them" mentality. I prefer not to engage in that, but if others want to, that's their choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/17/2013|
Jesus, R32. That was the funniest thing I've read on this site in years!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/17/2013|
If this is supposed to be a site of, by and for gay men, why do women, especially fraus, choose to hang around here anyway? If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen! This is a free-speech, freewheeling site and if you don't like use of what is here the descriptive word "frau", don't come here, the solution is simple. Start a site of your own where you can bitch, piss and moan, only don't assume that you have some sort of authority to censor anybody. Why is it that whenever gay men try to find a refuge someplace to be free of the heterosexual breeders, they surely seek it out and follow? One can only repeat--if you don't like it here, leave!!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/17/2013|
OP, this is a gay website.. if you don't like it, fine. You're free to leave.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||01/17/2013|
"Frau," as it is used here on DL, means (to me) a certain mindset and sometimes physical appearance of a married breeder woman, often in a workplace setting.
To me, that's it.
I think OP has a bee in his bonnet thinking this word is an appalling slur.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||01/17/2013|
R52 I agree with you. Only a minority of women are fraus. Those who think that Luke Evans is straight because he said so and was photographed with Holly something and want "proofs" are fraus.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/17/2013|
Why is this thread still here? What's with all the anti gay bullishit?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/17/2013|
[quote]If this is supposed to be a site of, by and for gay men
|by Anonymous||reply 57||01/17/2013|
MARY @ R56
|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/17/2013|
Hallo! Sehr nett, dass ihr Deutsch gelernt habt!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 60||01/17/2013|
I LOVE R32.
R49 is absolutely correct, the fraus need to leave, and OP needs to shut the fuck up.
And I really love this thread. Some very creative frauisms!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/17/2013|
And I quote:
[quote]1. frau - Stupid fat ugly older woman who posts non-stop on message boards about old lady topics, such as hummus recipes and their current object of lust. This object of obsession is usually a fugly contestant on American Idol (e.g. Taylor Hicks) or some other fug and/or gay singer, who they insist is very sexy and/or straight. Also hausfraus. NOUN - The fraus are worthless and should be banned. ADJECTIVE - She wasn't frau enough to join their Taylor board.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||01/17/2013|
[quote]such as hummus recipes and their current object of lust.
Substitute "cole slaw" for "hummus" and you have a current snapshot of DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||01/17/2013|
Stop being so disrespectful here, aren't we all suppose to be mature ladies and gentlemen?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||01/17/2013|
Meine liebe Frau OP:
Cun't you understand that attempting to push your agenda here both misunderstands and co-opts most of the intentions behind the words you gape at (social commentary of an acute sense aimed at a particular womnyefestation of your gender).
The Frau - and that's the word you fired at - is an overbearing, demanding, controlling, proudly uneducated, consumerist, vulgar, spirit-sapping type of person who happens to have a kangaroo's pouch for a pudenda. What does that have to do with you in such a fundamental way that you and your cohorts here attempt to slit the throats of the gay men on the DL?
Oh. Never mind. I just got it.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||01/17/2013|
I thought a frau was a selfish, entitled, child obsessed, and fear driven female?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||01/17/2013|
Need I mention that the frauen and fraulein are the ones posting some of the most homophobic comments on DL. (Please note that I do not include our lesbian sisters when I use that term.)
For that reason alone, they should be shot into outer space, let alone out of DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||01/17/2013|
r66 yeah, I'm confused as what the definition is.
and then there's the issue of expecting a reasoned discussion of interpersonal relationships on DL. I hear to sound of pearl on pearl action!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||01/17/2013|
Frau doesn't refer to a woman per se. It refers to a woman who behaves and thinks in a certain way. Exactly what the definition is is open to debate. It is true that some people use it as an all-encompassing insult. Like "breeders" or, originally, "straights"
|by Anonymous||reply 69||01/17/2013|
A frau is a female het that dreams of populating the earth with her crotch droppings. She works in a cubicle, distributes glurge via Facebook, and eats at Chick-Fil-A. Fraus have may have romantic feelings for Anderson Cooper or Jake Gyllenhaal. The strangest fraus write "slash" fan fiction. Slash is to straight women as bad lesbian porn is to straight men.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||01/17/2013|
"I'M A NURSING HOME RAPIST!"
|by Anonymous||reply 72||01/17/2013|
Fuck off homophobic cunt r58
|by Anonymous||reply 73||01/17/2013|
" I EAT SHIT! "
|by Anonymous||reply 74||01/17/2013|
I like the word frau, it's funny, and way less hurtful than the word faggot.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||01/17/2013|
It's a far kinder word than fraus deserve...
|by Anonymous||reply 76||01/17/2013|
Sent from my iphone while shopping at Yankee Candle for vanilla angelfood scented pillars.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||01/17/2013|
R77 made me laugh do hard I pissed in my pink size 16 velour tracksuit.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||01/17/2013|
"made me laugh do hard"
|by Anonymous||reply 79||01/17/2013|
r77 would be funny but it make no sense? Clearly the YC is a frauville. Something r72 is not.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||01/17/2013|
Most of the things "fraus" are picked on for seem harmless (scented candles???). It just seems catty.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 82||01/17/2013|
R71, you cunty frau, I never said anything about hate.
What is it with you troglodytic gunt chasms that cannot differentiate between others noticing what a mess you are and others hating you?
I don't hate you. I just see you for what you are - self-hating voids that all the cookie dough in the world cannot fill. And when you puddle your chronic yeast infection pee all over the DL because you think you can plop your distorted values here - or infest our lives with your glitter unicorn shirts shining with microwave popcorn grease stains as you crap out another hour-long tirade about the neighbor who asked you to stop letting your mongrel loose on his property - and not get called on it,
you're just mistaken.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||01/17/2013|
[quote] If this is supposed to be a site of, by and for gay men
R49, where the fuck do you get the idea that DL is for men only? It never has been and it never will be. Despite your narcissistic view of life and gayhood, there are gay females as well.
As for "frau" - it is a perfectly good tagline for a type of person that DL finds obnoxious and entitled. I may not be able to define it but I know it when I see it.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||01/17/2013|
When do I get my cankles and stirrup leggings? I've been frau'd up for getting to 3 years now; did I miss the welcome wagon?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||01/17/2013|
And another thing, can you PLEASE direct to the nearest Krispy Kremes store?? I have not eaten for two hours and I feel faint!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 87||01/17/2013|
r57, are you retarded? All you need to do is read the caption under the logo "the Datalounge" next to the threadlist--it says, "get your fix of GAY gossip, news and pointless bitchery"--your apparent lust for a link is right before you, dimwit. I can only assume that you're one of those who pays little attention to detail--you most likely are lazy at wiping and leave dingleberries and are a bottom and can't understand why no one will fuck you.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||01/17/2013|
R85, as I stated somewhere else in this thread I'm a straight female who uses frau to describe a certain type of female. Married with kids, and there is nothing wrong with that, but it's a demeanor and attitude that makes a frau. Usually overweight and, yes, wearing sweats or oversized tees decorated with puff paint and glitter with hobbies like scrapbooking and incessant chatter about their kids who their entire life revolves around. I've been around these women when I've been dragged to Scentsy parties, god help me. I've also heard them discussing the Twilight movies as if they were 14 year old teens. They discuss food A LOT. They drive minivans or oversized SUV's whether they need them or not. Some of them are nice but dull and some of them are nasty, vile human beings. They tend to be suspicious of single moms.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||01/17/2013|
I said "IF" r84--you're the one who ASS-U-MEed it was my idea--maybe you need to go back to third grade and practice reading with SRA cards again. And as for calling me narcissistic, bitch please, don't try and flatter yourself. Gayhood--did you just make that word up on the spot?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||01/17/2013|
Cosigning everything R89 posted.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||01/17/2013|
Sounds like the equivalent of straight guys whose lives revolve around sports, pussy, hot wings, and beer.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||01/17/2013|
R87, be respectful to the ladies here.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||01/17/2013|
R92, in the wild, those are know as fraufuckers.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||01/17/2013|
" And another thing, can you PLEASE direct to the "
|by Anonymous||reply 95||01/17/2013|
Are there any black fraus?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 97||01/17/2013|
Possibly a few R96 but it seems to be a "white" thing. Asians have their "tiger moms" and Hispanics/Blacks have their no nonsense "I'll smack your ass" moms. I know very few non-white women who scrapbook.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||01/17/2013|
[quote]be respectful to the ladies here
Regardless of their gender.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||01/17/2013|
I think they google things like peanut allergy or fibromyalgia and find their way here and don't bother finding out that it's a gay website for pointless bitchery. They post things that immediately identify themselves thus inviting heaps of abuse.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||01/17/2013|
[quote]they google things like peanut allergy or fibromyalgia and find their way here and don't bother finding out that it's a gay website for pointless bitchery. They post things that immediately identify themselves
Classic frau is forever offended
|by Anonymous||reply 102||01/17/2013|
I think hate is a very strong word R103. I don't "hate" anyone. It's a very negative emotion. I may dislike something and do my best to avoid it but not really "hate".
|by Anonymous||reply 104||01/17/2013|
R49/R90, we'll ignore your childish outburst and transparent backpedaling.
This is what you said:
[quote] If this is supposed to be a site of, by and for gay men, why do women, especially fraus, choose to hang around here anyway? . . . Why is it that whenever gay men try to find a refuge someplace to be free of the heterosexual breeders, they surely seek it out and follow?
Don't pretend your "IF" was anything but an exclusive disjunctive type proposition. If X is Y then it can not be Z. You believe, wrongly, that this site is for gay men only. Don't deny that is what you said in your post.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||01/17/2013|
R84/R105, you're right about the DL being for all gay people, and it is true that the men have a tendency to by slapdash, dismissive and vulgar about gay women on the site. I know I have - the retrospective look has been shaming, and I don't do it now. Unless the context and humor make it more fun - Nan and all.
With that said, your "exclusive disjunctive type proposition" does suggest you look like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||01/17/2013|
I thought this site was for gays and lesbians.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||01/17/2013|
" I USE TWINKIES A TAMPONS"
|by Anonymous||reply 108||01/17/2013|
If straight women are so affronted by what goes on in here, why do they keep coming back? Why do they feel it is their right to admonish the people having harmless fun in here? If you don't like the topic of a thread, move on to the NEXT ONE.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||01/17/2013|
Op, what is it you cunt face?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||01/17/2013|
R109 [italic] NAILED [/italic] it!!
|by Anonymous||reply 111||01/17/2013|
People on this thread imagining that using the term "frau" is somehow on the same moral level with racism or the legal inequality of gay people has their head up their ass.
It's a stretch, dears.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 113||01/17/2013|
Just remember, ladies, that a smile is fraun turned upside down.
Over a rushing river, preferably.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||01/17/2013|
Well, R106, at least she has all her hair. Why do I suspect you don't ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 115||01/17/2013|
The first time I read DL and saw the word frau I assumed it was a polite way of suggesting to newcomers that most people who post on this site are New York types with a lot of familiarity with Europe, about half I thought must belong to the time honored Hebrew religion.
Then I read some anti semitic comments and I decided that instead of a cultural suggestion to readers frau must be a very practical way to substitute writing the long too formal word "woman" or too informal "girl".
Now this thread suggests frau is a way to insult women.Which one I wonder would be correct.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||01/17/2013|
"I BAREBACKED WITH JEFFREY DAHMER"
|by Anonymous||reply 117||01/17/2013|
Hey r115. Men go bald. It's masculine. Gay men are attracted to masculinity. Your comment is irrelevant.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 120||01/17/2013|
Considering this argument has been going on for five or six years now, you have to wonder what keeps these gals coming back to this horrible, nightmarish, triggering environment day after day.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||01/17/2013|
R119, your mistake is using DL to gauge all gay men. Go out and meet some real ones.
Some of the straight women who come here deserve the names they are called but I would never judge all straight women by the ones I encounter here, or any other internet website. And if I judged all lesbians based on you, I'd think all lesbians were stupid. Good thing I know a few real people.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||01/17/2013|
It's the hilarious babble of stick-up-the-twat womyn such as R119 that gay men are "jealous of" women that underscores the hysterical, brittle mindsets of some of our sisters here. They think, in their insulated, concrete way, that they can talk to gay men as if they're lesser forms of humanity, and that the tactics women use to browbeat, control and shun each other work with gay men.
We're not jealous of women in any way. We love women - they're usually our best friends, the members of our family we support, and the coworkers we are allied with. Don't, in your habitual lazy cold way think that just because we are wise to women's bullshit, and reject the "frau" shit that creeps in here, that we find women as a group abominable.
It's the specific messes we find appalling. And you're getting there, my sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 124||01/17/2013|
Women aren't being called fraus, but the fraus are
|by Anonymous||reply 125||01/17/2013|
If you don't ACT like a frau then you have nothing to worry about, sweeties.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||01/17/2013|
Why are lesbians getting upset with fraus being called fraus?
So they support entitlement, selflessness, and child obsession?
If it's yes then please explain why?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||01/17/2013|
Fraus are not a minority, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||01/17/2013|
"I SUCK PUS OUT OF ASS PIMPLES"
|by Anonymous||reply 130||01/17/2013|
Our kind of people would have said properly, 'Please, stop using the word frau!' Accordingly, this is just nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||01/17/2013|
[quote]One minority sluring another minority - check
Check minus. Women are not a minority. They are the majority. And the term "fraus" does not refer to all women the way that a "slur" refers to all members of a minority. It refers to a particular type of woman. Catherine Deneuve, Virginia Woolf, and Hillary Clinton are/were not fraus.
[quote] Saying derogatory things about some of gay people's only supporters and in some cases only friends -check
Even if this were the case, it hardly makes a convincing argument. In many cases, white women were the only friends that black women had outside the community in the south during the civil rights movement. It did not mean black women had to accept everything a white woman said or did, or that black women were totally out of line making fun of the excesses of Southern white women, even sympathetic ones, behind their backs.
[quote]Saying those derogatory things are only as a joke but obviously exposing our own insecurities
[quote]Both groups worshipping the hot straight guy who thinks we are a bunch of Fags and Pussies - check
Hardly. Straight guys are just like any other group. Some great ones, many are loathsome. This idea that gay men worship straights is pretty infantile and regressive imho and just something the foot-stompers say because they can't think of any other argument against the frau brigade.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||01/17/2013|
It's best not to judge any group by what you see on DL. The gay men I know in real life don't talk about women like this. I don't know any women who fit into these categories either, which makes it hard for me to understand these threads.
Unless they're hateful, it doesn't bother me if straight women have interests/hobbies that differ from mine. Nor do I care what they look like, what they wear, or how much they weigh, since I'm not sexually interested in them anyway. And I certainly don't care how they decorate their homes. If they have obnoxious personalities, that's one thing, but that has nothing to do with the way they look or whether they like scented candles.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||01/17/2013|
[QUOTESo even though I have known many, many gay men over the 40-or-so years I've been out, I still believe that most gay men, if they had their "druthers," would prefer to have been born female.
One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this site.
Not easy in these parts.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||01/17/2013|
[quote]all we have to do is flash our tits or wiggle our asses and men give us whatever we want![/quote]
Most of the time, this works for me; sorry you've had such a hard existence.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||01/17/2013|
I wouldn't give up my schlong, evah!
|by Anonymous||reply 137||01/17/2013|
Would the inane, demented and brutishly semi-conscious R119/R134 please duck her head down and lose herself within the black hole of her barnacled, chum-reeking cunt?
You can just see it, metronoming herself in Grandma's rocker, the cat box overflowing, face scarlet with rancor as she FINALLY has her say about how much she hates men. Via the gay men who she still looks down on because that's the nature of the disease.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||01/17/2013|
R134 = Frau. With penis envy.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||01/17/2013|
" I LAP UP MICHELE BACHMANN'S QWEEF SPLATTER! "
|by Anonymous||reply 140||01/17/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 141||01/17/2013|
R142, the illogical equivalencies in your claptrap spillage of hate mark you as not just a frau, but a nasty person, whatever the baggage of your unloved and unwanted genitalia.
It's just as we all know - fraus are loathed here because of what you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||01/17/2013|
r142 = selfish entitled child obsessed cunt.
At lease you admit it.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||01/17/2013|
Fraus like to pretend that they lead enviable lives.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||01/18/2013|
[quote] Is Frau only a DL internet construct? Is that right. I know what it is supposed to mean, no need to explain that.
no. it is all over. Check Urban dictionary. Apparently in the UK it is used for women who try to participate in things that are age inappropriate or where they are not wanted. (sort of like the ABFab women worrying about young pop stars and clubbing etc.)
I think that is how it became popular on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||01/18/2013|
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|by Anonymous||reply 150||01/18/2013|
Oh Babe, that"ll do.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||01/18/2013|
r84,r105 one must give you credit for one thing, you try to twist words and put words in other people's mouths which marks you as being slimey, sort of like some lawyer; tiresome, didactic fraus like you are quickly flushed around here. If my posts have bothered you then please, let them bother the hell out of you--I take it as a compliment that they have so much power over you and I welcome your annoyance. I don't deny anyone the right to post here, but if a "frau" is a type that is unwelcome then they should expect what's coming to them. Look at it this way, if the only ones who posted here were lesbians I shouldn't wonder that it would be a rather dull affair, however, by the same token, if it were only gay men posting here I would be willing to bet that it would "hold its own".
|by Anonymous||reply 152||01/18/2013|
I made no mention of hatred r153, I just don't like what I say to be misrepresented and misinterpreted no matter who it is. Holding one's own is merely an expression--for example: "Mr. Smith, are you comfortable in social situations?" Reply: "I can 'hold my own'". I guess it might be a little dated for younger crowds--I don't know. I will go so far as to agree with you that I am not like the average gay guy and one older friend of mine once said I was a "queer queer". So, OK, you sort of lost me on "virtual territory" and the "more important and interesting ground", would you care to elaborate? What I think about or how I think about it could get "philosophical" fairly quickly, maybe further explanation might be in order??
|by Anonymous||reply 154||01/18/2013|
There is not a thing wrong with using the word, "Frau". Thanks to Datalounge, I've been referring to fat, "my kid's mom", types for years as hausfraus.
Now, if somebody were stupid enough to use the f**got word to me in person, I'd just knock a bitch out. Man, woman or child.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||01/18/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 156||01/18/2013|
OP, don't worry. Fraus are a minority, the great majority of females are intelligent women.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||01/18/2013|
Correct R119, all you have to do is flash your titties, that is why 99 percent of all strippers are female. You can literally pay the rent by flashing your titties.
The Facts Don't Lie:
|by Anonymous||reply 159||01/18/2013|
R160 Stop pretending that gays don't like women. We don't like fraus, a minority as I sais before. To me also hormonal teens/twenties who invade every social forum shouting how hot is Henry Cavill are annoying, but they're young and there's still hope they won't become fraus but smart women.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||01/18/2013|
said the frau. R162
|by Anonymous||reply 163||01/18/2013|
This isn't a support group R162, its a light hatred place for pointless bitchery.
Even Gladiators needed a special place the sharpen their skills before they went into battle.
So edgy humor is off limits now? We cant be serious and have some fun on the side? You need to get laid.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||01/18/2013|
[quote]Do you know what sickens me the most. When I read these threads I wonder why there is a fight for gay marriage.I wonder why anyone would fight for us at all !
If visiting an anonymous online forum where people exhibit honest human traits instead of being morally perfect and loving everyone and having infinite tolerance for all behaviors, I feel sorry for you. I know it's shocking to you, but gay people are human as well, and have all of the same negative traits that straight people have. I'm sorry that the realization that gay people are human beings is so devastating to you.
My guess is that you are either one of the many straight women who come here to create excuses to justify their homophobia, or you are a gay man struggling with internalized homophobia. Either way, I hope you can work out these issues for yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||01/18/2013|
*** If visiting an anonymous online forum where people exhibit honest human traits instead of being morally perfect and loving everyone and having infinite tolerance for all behaviors [bold]is devastating to you[/bold], I feel sorry for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||01/18/2013|
R166, I like you, I really like you. Thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||01/18/2013|
Not to get off topic, but I agree that hatred toward women is very mainstream and hetero value. They hate gay men for the qualities they perceive to be female. I think they also feel threatened with obsolescence by lesbians, especially butch women. I work with macho straight guys and they spend a lot of time talking about how much they hate gays and women every day.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||01/18/2013|
R170, if that didn't speak to you in some way, why did you answer it?
|by Anonymous||reply 171||01/18/2013|
R170 The blatant misogyny is only towards the minority of fraus and hormonal teenagers, not women in general. In fact, it would be more correct to say that there is annoyance towards narrow-minded females.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||01/18/2013|
R174, again confusing a few DL posters with all gay men. I used to think it was a good thing when ignorant straight women like you would come here, they'd learn something. Silly me. Go meet some real gay people.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||01/18/2013|
[quote]Sorry [R34], I dont even like hanging around women any more let alone be one. Soooo manipulative. Oh, I just got a divorce and I need a gay friend to help be decorate...
So because 2 or 3 women you know have tried to exploit you, ALL 3 billion women in the world are evil manipulators.
You're not very bright are you? No wonder you have predators in your life trying to use you.
Does that mean that the next time a gay man let's me down I can feel free to condemn all gay men?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||01/18/2013|
Is it any different from you R176? Painting all gay men and all DLers based on the posts of a few?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||01/18/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 178||01/18/2013|
I understand what you're saying R173. This site includes everything, including venting. That's part of what makes it so interesting. But it bums me out when it's not just one or two people venting, but [italic]many[/italic] being downright hateful in their posts.
Whatever. You do what you want. Free country and all that, but misogyny is no more justifiable than homophobia.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||01/18/2013|
[quote]But that is xenophobic and bigoted isn't it?
Perhaps so. But I don't wail and gnash my teeth because there are forums online where people are engaging in that sort of humor, r179. In fact, even if I don't believe such stereotypes describe all Americans, I can acknowledge that there's probably a bit of truth to the stereotype (I've probably laughed a bit at jokes about "the ugly American" myself).
I don't shriek that Europeans who engage in that sort of humor deserve to be legally unequal, I don't shriek that they're xenophobes akin only to the Nazis and segregationists. I don't shriek that such humor is slowly killing them.
I LET IT GO.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||01/18/2013|
[quote] but misogyny is no more justifiable than homophobia.
It isn't but when directed at straight women it's a secondary concern at a gay & lesbian website.
Get rid of all the homophobia here first if you want me to care.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||01/18/2013|
[quote] but there is no DL derogratory term for the male equivalent?
Tool, douche, asshole, asshat, dick, asswipe, Republican. These all have been used to describe certain types of straight guys on this forum, and they all seem far worse than frau.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||01/18/2013|
I think that most of those terms can equally be thrown at women and why not? instead of using a gender loaded term like "frau".
|by Anonymous||reply 185||01/18/2013|
R184, don't forget fraufuckers!
|by Anonymous||reply 186||01/18/2013|
And since "frau" usually describes a conservative, evangelical woman who is against gay rights, it is actually aimed at an oppressor.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||01/18/2013|
[quote]I think that most of those terms can equally be thrown at women and why not?
Douche and dick are almost never thrown at woman. And frau is often thrown at men on this very forum, in this very thread, so your point doesn't make sense, frau.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||01/18/2013|
If it quacks like a frau...
|by Anonymous||reply 191||01/18/2013|
[quote]so I'm a "conservative, evangelical woman who is against gay rights"?
Well, no. But your emotional, dramatic, controlling overreaction to stupid bullshit makes you fraulike.
"Douche" most often describes an overly confident, egotistical, narcissistic young straight man. But anyone can be a bit of a douche sometimes.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||01/18/2013|
[quote]I don't think anyone should roll around in their negative traits with such glee the way a lot of you seem to on this thread. Pathetic. I don't go to message boards and hate on gay men and then excuse it by saying I'm just 'being human.' What a weak ass excuse. My guess is this is how you rationalize your blatant misogyny.
R170, either you are illiterate and couldn't understand what R166 said, or you think it's justifiable to judge all gay people based on what someone posted on an anonymous message board. Either you're an idiot or a bigot.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||01/18/2013|
Everyone here complaining about the use of the term "frau" seems to be forgetting that the DL traffics in "pointless bitchery".
|by Anonymous||reply 194||01/18/2013|
Don`t be such a mujer!
|by Anonymous||reply 196||01/18/2013|
We used to say "cow" and "sow."
|by Anonymous||reply 197||01/18/2013|
This is why the DL is so fun.
A few self-dazzled, smug and righteous-minded twats wander into the fray with nothing but their prejudice, lazy-easy-habitual snatch-shots ("You're mean!" "You hate yourselves!" "You are jealous of my oozing cunt!" "You have the nerve to expect me to support your human rights and you don't want to fuck me and love me forever and give me a white wedding and let me control your ass for the rest of your life because I let you use me as a masturbation hole, which is all most men want women for in the first place because women are so fucking neeeeeeeeedy but never admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "I pity you!" "I'm a lesbian and I pretend to tolerate gay men but I have bigger balls than they do even if they're made out of wadded cigarette packs and Super Glue!) and confidence that if they could just lose 170 pounds they could get Brad Pitt (or Angelina), too, going for them, and then linger forever saying the same things because they JUST CAN'T LET THIS STAND because if even a useless gay man can't kiss the twat their whole existence is going to fall apart.
Fraus? Frauen? Twats? Cunts?
Typical women, playing the usual games and shrieking because gay men won't play, because of innate immunity to their poison.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||01/18/2013|
I'm always astounded by how un-enlightened a good number of gay men are. Then I remember that the only people more emotionally damaged than they are M to F trans people, so I try to cut them a bit of slack.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||01/18/2013|
Out of curiosity, and on the odd chance that someone is willing to answer, would the straight women here please answer why you choose to post on a "gay" forum? This would really be helpful info. Thanks in advance.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||01/18/2013|
R202 demonstrates the value of its type of contributor to the DL. Sounds like a combination offender - woman + special status of woeful kind.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||01/18/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 204||01/18/2013|
"I EMPTY OUT COLOSTOMY BAGS AND BATHE WITH WHATS IN THEM"
|by Anonymous||reply 205||01/18/2013|
Cunt, frau, bitch, hypocritical loud mouth bitch. They ALL spell the same fucking thing....WOMAN!
|by Anonymous||reply 206||01/18/2013|
The Bible does not talk about Adam and Steve.
It talks about Adam and Cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||01/18/2013|
201 I'm also curious, so...
Out of curiosity, and on the odd chance that someone is willing to answer, would the straight women here please answer why you choose to post on a "gay" forum? This would really be helpful info. Thanks in advance.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||01/19/2013|
Because they are women. Women are all nuts. Why don't the lot of you just go away. You're ALL CUNTS. Straight women are bad enough but lesbians too? It's just not fair what the gay man has to endure. Not fair at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||01/19/2013|
R134, your logic is flawed and science is twisted:
"And that's what I've learned from reading DL religiously for 10+ years, certainly a statistically significant sample size of gay men's posts"
That is like saying "I worked at Cheese Cake Factory for 10 years and I have come to the conclusion that all breeder are fat pigs. I know lost of strait people who go there so that's how they really are." "I know this based on a the random sampling of thousands of breeders that eat at Cheese Cake Factory"
Most gay men I know have never even hear of this site. They have no interest in bitchy humor. That is an effeminate quality a lot of gay men are just not into.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||01/19/2013|
This thread is pitiful. PITIFUL. You're all severely unhinged.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||01/19/2013|
R209 is right, the term Psyco-Bitch exists for a reason. No one ever says Psyco-Dude.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||01/19/2013|
Yes R210. Gay men rule. We always have and always will.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||01/19/2013|
Lesbians are more man hating then straight women, duh!
As a gay man straight women and lesbians hang out at the gay bars all the time no problem. Their vagina dose not let them cut in line like a straight bar, or tons of free drinks but they get treated fairly, like a guy.
Walk into a womans bar even as a gay man is like taking my life in my own hands. Dirty looks, questioning why I am there, ignored to be served at the bar when I wait my turn. I could go on. Complexity unfriendly even after they figure out I am gay and not trying to pic them up.
The only lesbians that even will consider a friendship are over the age of 40. That is only because they realize we are not leaving the planet like they hoped so they have thrown in the towel and we are here till they die, so might as well get along.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||01/19/2013|
Have at it lesbo
|by Anonymous||reply 215||01/19/2013|
[quote]Lesbians are more man hating then straight women, duh!
Uh, possibly some, but the lesbians I've known have never bothered to talk about men much at all. If the topic is brought up by an outsider, they're more like, "I have no interest in that."
But gay men are obsessed with women and gush about them CONSTANTLY- either in sheer hatred of them in a creepily generalized way, or in envy of something "fabulous" that one of them did or wore (usually disguised as accolades). It's true.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||01/19/2013|
shove it frau, shove it frau, shove it frau
|by Anonymous||reply 217||01/19/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 218||01/19/2013|
OK, OP. After this trainwreck, how about this as a compromise, in the name of understanding and in the spirit of equanimity and lesbian-gay male relations, as well as straight-women and gay-men neutrality:
Instead of "frau," how about we call you "frowsy"?
It's the best I can do, especially after wading through the latest leaden, humorless, mutton-headed lesbian posts.
Take it or suffer through "fraucuntgapetunacurtains."
|by Anonymous||reply 219||01/19/2013|
If you really don't want your space invaded by straight women, keep posting in the "presenting their holes," Broadway, porn star, soap opera, Matt Bomer, Mariska Hargitay threads because no straight woman with more than three working brain cells would find them interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||01/19/2013|
is that a threat or a promise r220?
|by Anonymous||reply 221||01/19/2013|
R216 is just mad because gay men can play with women on the most superficial level and leave it at the door.
Lesbians have to take a silicon replica of a mans junk into the bedroom to pleasure their partner.
No wonder they give men the stink eye and don't want to "discuss" IT. Go to IT girls!
|by Anonymous||reply 222||01/19/2013|
R220 = Sniping Cunt (with delusions about the gape gender and its intelligence, interests and behavior)
|by Anonymous||reply 223||01/19/2013|
R201 & R208, I'll gladly answer! Sometime last year, I had the TV on as background noise and heard the name 'Faye Resnick' came up. It sounded so familiar but I couldn't place it and Googled; one of the links that came up was for DL and the thread on Nicole Brown, Faye and Kris Jenner and what they were like in the 90s.
The responses were witty and without filter; I just loved it. I didn't even notice the DL tagline about gay gossip until my second visit but the moment I saw a thread on Reese Rideout and his busted (and in denial) wife, I was hooked.
I'm not here to fangurl and scream about Jeremy 'Plasticine Face' Renner being straight or talk about how peanut products should be pulled from all stores because my (imaginary) child has a mild allergy. The pointless bitchery pulls me in every time; if it's a problem for me to post, I'll stop and just read.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||01/19/2013|
R225 I agree with you. R224 seems one of the smart women. Welcome.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||01/19/2013|
R41/R211/R216/R218 is the entitled cunt who has been crapping her homophobic, ageist, entitiled drivel all over the site. She thinks that by hiding behind "don't speak if you can't take it" she can spread her hate speech as she will. Because she's so much smarter than anyone else. And rich - she's managed to tell everyone about her archaeologist father with whom she has issues, that she is rich, that she went to a fancy private school - and that she has to insert her loathing of older people in every thread because of her daddy issues.
Blow this homophobic cunt out of here. She's playing "voice of reason" like she learned in sophomore year and has that insane tenacity associate with the worst trolls here. Oh - she also is APPALLED by the DL. Entitled asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||01/19/2013|
Thanks, R224. I think a lot of other non-gay people find this site by mistake. The problems begin when some of them start posting homophobic comments; however, the problems escalate from there.
While some homophobes will post one or two comments and then leave, others seem to revel in it and do it over and over. Most [italic]appear[/italic] to be "straight" women, but some are most likely men assuming a woman's identity. Even worse, some are actually gay folk getting their kicks by assuming a homophobe's identity. Very bizarre.
It's virtually impossible to tell friend from foe on this site because of the anonymity factor. A poster may decide to be a benevolent Glinda one day and a malevolent WW of the West the next. It's like a schizophrenic soup.
Anyway, thanks for responding to the question (R201/R208), and I hope other straight women around here will share their stories. It really is eye-opening.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||01/19/2013|
I'm a straight woman who came to this site years ago - before 9/11 - and found the topics to be interesting and the commentary often insightful and fun. The site was marked for gay gossio and pointless bitchery but never said it was for men only. I always felt that I contributed some good commentary here and frankly, some of the hate against women gets tiresome. I've had many gay friends over the years and none of them spout the venom against women that sometimes erupts on the DL.
There may be only a handful of people here who are hung up on using derogatory terms for women, and they sometimes give the place a very bad name.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||01/19/2013|
I was in a nasty mood when I included the Broadway and soap opera threads in that laundry list. Those two speak to niche interests and, judging from the thread headlines, the Broadway one is quite witty. The Mariska thread ought to be retitled "obsession." It's about amassing evidence that Mariska is gay. (And if she is, good for her and I hope she has the courage to come out.) Maybe I erred and there are millions of straight women who want to read about gay pornstars and see men presenting their holes. I don't. The point is that this thread is a magnet to the straight women who read Datalounge and if you really don't like them, why would you engage them? I go out of my way to avoid talking politics with Republicans. Also, the eldergays rock.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||01/19/2013|
R230 now doesn't want gay men to respond in a thread addressed to them requesting that they modify their behavior to accommodate - what? - pretended sensitivities concerning an innocuous German term for "married woman"?
She's insisting that gay men avoid the offensive guests squatting in gay territory.
And she's endlessly refining her terms for how to get rid of straight women, as she says this, while pronouncing on what aspects of the DL she finds acceptable.
Lord in heaven. They are a different sort of thing, aren't they?
|by Anonymous||reply 231||01/19/2013|
R232, please don't attempt wobbly rhetorical tricks just because everyone you know is too lazy to pay close attention to them. I didn't draw conclusions - I reflected on what you said and specifically addressed it. You didn't respond. But you offered that someone asking why straight women are here meant they wanted a "debate," which is an untoward "conclusion" to draw.
Honestly, this isn't the thread to attempt to go off-track and be serious. The OP likely was a troll who wanted to start a slap-fest, and that's what it obviously was. Plenty of serious threads exist with very little nuisance posts - they work because the tone is set from the start and it's not "fun" to mess with them.
Your "conclusion" that I don't want straight women here is consistent with your (rather typical) tactics. "Well, if THAT'S the way you feel..." is irrelevant if you can't bother to work through what the other person may actually be feeling. It's lazy. I like your posts, and have nothing against anyone so long as they don't expect a free ride from incipient homophobia or unwillingness to understand what a gay-infused, "pointless bitchery," face-slapping site is all about. Social commentary of a very stringent kind is part of the culture. Speaking hyperbolically is, too. Outrage often is feigned. And "frau" is a married woman who insists on pushing low-end and tacky domestic biases and tastes on people who reject the presumptions involved.
Try starting a serious thread. You'll be surprised. And try - try - to understand the context here. It's not about you, and your little tricks are too transparent to bother with. I've learned a lot by the strong responses my own claptrap has triggered.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||01/19/2013|
Good post R234.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||01/19/2013|
Fraus are always pretending to be the innocent ones, and that the world's problems are caused by the gays. Well, you can't spell "fraud" without "frau"!
|by Anonymous||reply 236||02/09/2013|
I'm convinced most if not all of the homophobic posts are coming from gay guys who are pretending to be straight "fraus" and just looking to stir the shit to see how many responses they can obtain.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||02/09/2013|
A few weeks ago someone linked a picture of a pantry which was "organized" but in reality was loaded with Pepperidge farm cookies and all sorts of unhealthy crap.
Some poster spectacularly described it as "Every frau in frauville has that pic!"
Does anyone know which thread had the pic? I have told my friend's about it and they are dying to see it!
|by Anonymous||reply 238||06/28/2013|
[quote]No one on here wants to be called a faggot so why do we turn around and call women fraus?
It's a faggot thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||06/29/2013|
I've noticed that in the West women are treated as princesses who can get away with almost everything, including seducing teenage boys. In Arab/Persian culture (and to a lesser degree Southern and Eastern Europe) it's usually the men who are overpriveleged,, while the women are kept on a tight leash.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||06/29/2013|
I think frau is funny and would like to use it but don't want to offend so I resist.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||06/29/2013|
[quote]“There’s a Peter Pan generation of women who haven’t had to grow up, who feel like the world owes them something. They’re rich and white and spoiled, and they expect everything while doing nothing. They’re the end of civilization, these women.”
Could just as easily be said about many gay men. Mo?
|by Anonymous||reply 242||06/29/2013|
I don't think this controversy is really about women or about whether they should be posting on a gay site. I think it's about the oppression of political correctness. Jackass stooges love it, because they have no sense of independence, but the rest of us feel so enclosed by the social (and, for some, legal) pressure to conform in our speech habits that when we're anonymous and out of public view, we blow off the accumulated steam by breaking some of the rules. "Frau" is a neutral word in German, but it's a putdown word on DL. It's meant to be: as a way of telling the language police of the left, "Get off me!"
|by Anonymous||reply 243||06/29/2013|
R227 That cunt has been trolling so many threads!
|by Anonymous||reply 244||06/29/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 245||06/29/2013|
Should we substitute cum dumpsters for frau?
|by Anonymous||reply 246||06/29/2013|
You should see the OP's head explode when confronted with the word "niggardly"
|by Anonymous||reply 247||06/29/2013|