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Frequently-Heard Redundancies

Completely finish (If you finish it, that means you complete it.)

Basic fundamentals (Fundamentals are basic.)

Final outcome (An outcome is final.)

Terrible tragedy (Tragedy means something terrible.)

Past history (History is what happened in the past)

Free gift (A gift is free.)

Future plans (Plans can only be for the future.)

True facts (If it's a fact, it is true.)

Various different (A meaning of different is various.)

Personal beliefs (A belief is personal.)

Continue on (Continue means to go on.)

Can you think of more?

by NewsBluesreply 10501/16/2013

WTF does reduncuncy mean????

by NewsBluesreply 101/10/2013

"Personal beliefs" - gotta disagree slightly, not always redundant; sometimes beliefs are cultural, group-specific.

by NewsBluesreply 201/10/2013

"My whole entire life!"

Massively huge

by NewsBluesreply 301/10/2013

Very unique - it drives me mad.

by NewsBluesreply 401/10/2013

Regularly, all the time!

by NewsBluesreply 501/10/2013

wherever your final destination might be

by NewsBluesreply 601/10/2013

Exact same

by NewsBluesreply 701/10/2013

Top priority.

by NewsBluesreply 801/10/2013

5:00 AM in the morning.

by NewsBluesreply 901/10/2013

"Completely finish (If you finish it, that means you complete it.)"

Actually one can -and usually does - complete anything in parts. Therefore, one can - and usually does - finish one part of something before completely finishing the whole. (I have just finished this paragraph).

Therefore, completely finishing something is not a redundancy. (I have just completely finished this post).

by NewsBluesreply 1001/10/2013

and same to 'final outcome' as R10 points out.

by NewsBluesreply 1101/10/2013

We see this all the time in real estate ads:

"hot water heater"

Huh?

by NewsBluesreply 1201/10/2013

Completely engulfed.

by NewsBluesreply 1301/10/2013

"Terrible tragedy (Tragedy means something terrible.)"

Not exactly. Terrible means causing terror. Not all tragedies cause terror.

On the other hand, terrible is often used to qualify tragedy in another way, to enhance how tragic the tragedy. When that is the case, it is, in a sense, redundant.

by NewsBluesreply 1401/10/2013

If you want to talk about stages, you should specify that by qualifying:

"The first stage should be completed next week -- the entire project should be completed by the end of the month".

As with "ultimate goal". If your goal is to to lose 100 pounds in 20 months, then you have 20 "interim goals" of 5 pounds each, but only 1 unqualified "goal" of 100 pounds.

Is that perfectly clear? Or only somewhat clear (which means "not yet clear")?

by NewsBluesreply 1501/10/2013

ATM Machine.

by NewsBluesreply 1601/10/2013

Many of these phrases are not meaningless in their supposed redundancy.

"Personal beliefs (A belief is personal.)"

In that phrase personal differentiates the belief from those which are, as the case may be, communal, universal or held by others than oneself.

"Various different"

One can have a variety of things belonging to the same subset or a variety of unrelated things. In the former case "various different" is not illogical. If one is working in a factory which produces five different brands of something, and among each brand are multiple defective items, one might say "various different" items are defective.

by NewsBluesreply 1701/10/2013

Tuna fish

Teal green

Pretty ugly

"Between she and I"

"If I was"

by NewsBluesreply 1801/10/2013

[quote] Top priority.

Wrong.

by NewsBluesreply 1901/10/2013

Past history.

Past experience.

Revert back.

Hot water heater.

by NewsBluesreply 2001/10/2013

PIN Number

by NewsBluesreply 2101/10/2013

r15:

The outcome of the year-long treatment and observation of X on Asian patients was satisfactory at 88% success rate.

The outcome of the year-long treatment and observation of X on North American patients was satisfactory at 78% success rate.

The outcome of the year-long treatment and observation of X on African patients was satisfactory at 80% success rate.

The outcome of the year-long treatment and observation of X on Australian patients was significantly low at 28% success rate.

The final outcome of the year-long treatment and observation of X on human patients showed a marked disparity in one group, rendering the study inconclusive and subject to methodology review.

by NewsBluesreply 2201/10/2013

Extra added bonus.

by NewsBluesreply 2301/10/2013

[all posts by right wing shit-stain # a removed.]

by NewsBluesreply 2401/10/2013

I disagree about "future plans." It might be grammatically redundant, but when someone says it they are usually referring to long term plans and goals, whereas simply saying "plans" usually refers to short term plans, i.e. what someone is doing later that night, or that weekend, or for an upcoming holiday, etc.

by NewsBluesreply 2501/10/2013

[quote]Top priority

Any item in a list of priorities is still a priority. The one that supersedes them all is the top priority.

by NewsBluesreply 2601/10/2013

Pre-recorded

by NewsBluesreply 2701/10/2013

r25, when was the last time you made plans today for something that happened last week?

by NewsBluesreply 2801/10/2013

Bitter Republican.

by NewsBluesreply 2901/10/2013

R18, "pretty ugly" is an oxymoron.

by NewsBluesreply 3001/10/2013

At this point and time...

'At this point' already covers the time.

by NewsBluesreply 3101/10/2013

Not all facts are true.

by NewsBluesreply 3201/10/2013

"Very unique" is annoying, but it is not a redundancy. It's an improper modification of an absolute concept.

by NewsBluesreply 3301/10/2013

most certainly will

by NewsBluesreply 3401/10/2013

Whether or not.

by NewsBluesreply 3501/10/2013

Brutally raped. Brutally murdered. As opposed to the kinder, fun types of rape and murder.

by NewsBluesreply 3601/10/2013

Terrible tragedy (Tragedy means something terrible.)

it is redundant but a tragedy does NOT mean something terrible. this irks me. tragedy, at least in its original use, was something transformative, something (to use greek, where the word tragedy almost comes from) Cathartic. Something terrible could be forgetting your lunch, or your car keys. Tragedy is a mother of three getting run over by a bus.

by NewsBluesreply 3701/10/2013

Various different (A meaning of different is various.)

not only have I never encountered this, I can't make heads or tails of it

by NewsBluesreply 3801/10/2013

[quote]Pretty ugly

that isn't redundant.

by NewsBluesreply 3901/10/2013

Free gift

Actual experience

Usual custom

Advance notice

False pretense

Unexpected surprise

by NewsBluesreply 4001/10/2013

[quote] As opposed to the kinder, fun types of rape

hey, last saturday was pretty fun, I'll admit

by NewsBluesreply 4101/10/2013

RBIs

For the baseball challenged this translates to Runs Batted Ins.

by NewsBluesreply 4201/10/2013

[quote]Brutally raped

Not redundant. Statutory rape is not necessarily brutal.

by NewsBluesreply 4301/10/2013

That's not the point, r28. The point is that adding the word "future" in front of the word "plans" is usually intended to make it take on a slightly more specific meaning in contemporary American English dialect, you fucking genius.

by NewsBluesreply 4401/10/2013

r31, isn't it 'at this point IN time'? well, that what I use.

r36, I disagree. 'Brutally' indicates the degree of violence that came/enabled with the rape, ex. an unconscious party girl raped vs a woman punch black and blue before being raped vs the infamous tragic Indian bus rape.

by NewsBluesreply 4501/10/2013

lol sorry for the loads of typo on 45

by NewsBluesreply 4601/10/2013

ATM Machine

Deja vu all over again.

by NewsBluesreply 4701/10/2013

[quote]At this point and time...

This might be redundant if that were the phrase, but the actual phrase is "At this point in time."

by NewsBluesreply 4801/10/2013

Brutally murdered always bothers me. I could see if it the media restricted its use to those who were bludgeoned to death, but it seems to be universal. All murder has become brutal in the media for dramatic impact.

Teal green is not redundant because teal is not always green; the name comes from the vivid colors on teal ducks. Green-winged teals are greener and blue-winged teals are bluer. I think of the color teal as being blue with a lot of green added in but I see it used for what I would call jade green.

"Between she and I" is not redundant, but it's terrible grammar. Ditto for "if I was."

by NewsBluesreply 4901/10/2013

Refer back to

by NewsBluesreply 5001/10/2013

I hate when someone says "two twins"...

by NewsBluesreply 5101/10/2013

conservative idiot

by NewsBluesreply 5201/11/2013

Admittedly I was off-track [R30], [R39], and [R40]. My flight of ideas went from 'redundant expressions' to 'redundant expressions I dislike' to 'anything I hear often and dislike' all in the span of twenty seconds. Would you please pass the ritalin?

I realize teal, the color, is named for teal, the varifeathered duck, but I've never heard of anything but that particular bluish green called teal. I think chocolate brown is redundant, and nobody ever asks "milk or dark chocolate?" by way of clarification. They sound awful said aloud.

by NewsBluesreply 5301/11/2013

[quote]tragedy, at least in its original use, was something transformative, something (to use greek, where the word tragedy almost comes from) Cathartic. Something terrible could be forgetting your lunch, or your car keys. Tragedy is a mother of three getting run over by a bus.

Thank you, R37. My eighth grade lit teacher smacked this concept into our heads.

by NewsBluesreply 5501/11/2013

Since when are facts true?

by NewsBluesreply 5601/11/2013

there is some real geek-dom going on in this thread

by NewsBluesreply 5701/11/2013

I love you grammar queens.

by NewsBluesreply 5801/11/2013

hot water heater

gradually over time

by NewsBluesreply 5901/11/2013

Completely destroyed.

If something is destroyed, then it's complete.

by NewsBluesreply 6101/11/2013

I don't know if I agree R61. If something has more than one part that make up the whole of it, like a computer, and one part is destroyed (the keyboard, let's say), but the other two parts are still viable (the screen and hard drive), the item as a whole is only partially destroyed. However, if all parts of the item, the hard drive, the screen and the keyboard, were no longer viable due to the destruction, the item would be completely destroyed.

by NewsBluesreply 6201/11/2013

As opposed to the kinder, fun types of rape and murder.

Well, I did hear of a case of someone who was killed by a clown. Apparently drowning someone with a seltzer bottle gets some laughs.

by NewsBluesreply 6301/11/2013

Consensus of opinion.

Circle around.

Blue in color.

by NewsBluesreply 6401/11/2013

I meant "concensus" of opinion.

by NewsBluesreply 6501/11/2013

Significant sizemeat

by NewsBluesreply 6601/11/2013

"Blue in color."

I like blue.

by NewsBluesreply 6701/11/2013

"Joey, get back into bed."

by NewsBluesreply 6801/11/2013

For R53:

by NewsBluesreply 6901/11/2013

maybe its not redundant, but repeated for added emphasis. you know like a rhetorical device. fucking idiots.

by NewsBluesreply 7001/11/2013

[quote] deja vu all over again

That one kills me, r47. I have heard that this was popularized because Yogi Berra said it. Unfortunately it's become way too prevalent now. I actually heard a news anchor say it once. People have debated and said it's not redundant, but here's my take:

"Deja Vu" literally means, "This has happened before". One would assume that in order to say that, the same thing would be currently happening, otherwise what would trigger a person to say it?

by NewsBluesreply 7101/11/2013

6 different colors.

by NewsBluesreply 7201/11/2013

Welcome in.

by NewsBluesreply 7301/11/2013

[quote]"Deja Vu" literally means, "This has happened before".

Actually, deja vu literally means: "already seen."

by NewsBluesreply 7401/11/2013

And deja vu refers to the feeling that something has happened before, even when it hasn't btw.

You might walk into a house that's new to you but seems familiar for a reason you can't explain. That's deja vu. (If you walk into another house the next day and the same thing happens, that would be deja vu all over again btw).

People began using it to refer to events that happened more than once--a football player drops a ball twice in the game and the second gets a joking response of "Deja vu!" from viewers.

But the phrase itself refers to the dreamlike sense of familiarity that new events or places can sometimes have.

by NewsBluesreply 7501/11/2013

I think is some cases you are all being too literal. In some cases the "redundant" word is acting as an intensifier. Yes, "completely destroyed" can indicate the difference between destroyed, but possibly rebuilt, and leveled to the ground. But it can also be be used to intensify the notion of destroyed as in, "After Jim dumped her for another man, Jill was completely destroyed."

by NewsBluesreply 7601/11/2013

I hope you didn't, R65. You were right the first time.

by NewsBluesreply 7701/12/2013

"Reconfirm" could almost always be shortened to "confirm," unless you've confirmed once and now you're truly reconfirming.

by NewsBluesreply 7801/12/2013

anal retentive

by NewsBluesreply 7901/13/2013

bump

by NewsBluesreply 8001/13/2013

Shrimp scampi

by NewsBluesreply 8101/13/2013

Stupid idiot.

by NewsBluesreply 8201/13/2013

R22, doesn't it hurt to write that way? It hurts to read it.

by NewsBluesreply 8301/13/2013

free gift - by its very nature a gift is free

partially nude - should be partially CLOTHED

by NewsBluesreply 8401/13/2013

presliced bread

by NewsBluesreply 8501/13/2013

Delicious, authentic Italian food from the Olive Garden.

by NewsBluesreply 8601/13/2013

Added bonus.

Personal friend.

by NewsBluesreply 8701/14/2013

Reiterate again.

by NewsBluesreply 8801/14/2013

[quote]presliced bread

That's not redundant, bread isn't baked sliced, idiot

by NewsBluesreply 8901/14/2013

agricultural crops close proximity complete monopoly exact counterpart general plan grateful thanks meaningless gibberish mutual cooperation original founder

by NewsBluesreply 9001/14/2013

R89 - it's the "PRE" that's in question. Bread that is sold as a loaf of slices is "sliced" bread.

by NewsBluesreply 9101/14/2013

He is a male model (nurse, etc.)

by NewsBluesreply 9201/14/2013

[quote] An outcome is final

Nope.

You an do math problems and come up with outcomes that are false. There's Ben a mistake made. So you go back and do it again.

Outcomes aren't necessarily final. Lots are temporary.

by NewsBluesreply 9301/14/2013

[quote] Free gift (A gift is free.)

Not necessarily. You can get a gift in exchange for something. Or you get a gift for having given a gift. If I gave you a Christmas gift and you now feel obliged to get me a gift, then my gift isn't "free," it's payback. Also, when you get a gift from the bank for opening an account (a mid century occurrence), you couldn't get the gift if you didn't open the account.

A "gift exchange" or "secret Santa" involves gifts, but you have to give one in order to get one. Not free, but still gifts

by NewsBluesreply 9401/14/2013

[quote] If something is destroyed, then it's complete.

Nope.

Lots of houses were partially destroyed in hurricane sandy. If my bedrooms and bathrooms were completely wrecked to the studs but my living room and second story are ok, my house is partially destroyed.

by NewsBluesreply 9501/14/2013

[quote] [R89] - it's the "PRE" that's in question. Bread that is sold as a loaf of slices is "sliced" bread.

But if you go to the bake shop and buy bread and ask them to slice it for you, the bread was not pre-sliced prior to sale. But if it is sliced on a supermarket shelf, it is pre sliced prior to sale.

by NewsBluesreply 9601/14/2013

Your house was partially damaged, R95.

by NewsBluesreply 9701/14/2013

[quote] agricultural crops

Not really. They are different from hydroponic crops. Also, rearing animals is included in agriculture. You don't call steak, eggs, fried chicken and hot dogs a crop. But they are agricultural products.

by NewsBluesreply 9801/14/2013

Not if the other rooms were damaged. My living room and bathroom were destroyed. My basement destroyed. My den and bathrooms were damaged.

My house is partially destroyed

by NewsBluesreply 9901/14/2013

again and again

over and over

by NewsBluesreply 10001/14/2013

[quote] Personal beliefs (A belief is personal)

No. A state religion is a belief. But it's not personal. A cultural belief would be that all citizens must be warriors and weak babies or weak children must be put to death. But the parents and the weak children may not believe this personally.

by NewsBluesreply 10101/14/2013

Part of your house was destroyed R95. The house as a whole is either destroyed or not destroyed.

by NewsBluesreply 10201/14/2013

recorded live.

by NewsBluesreply 10301/14/2013

David Car webmaster of Who's Alive and Who's Dead sends a monthly bulletin, "Living Octogenarians."

by NewsBluesreply 10401/15/2013

Pre-plan or plan in advance or prepare in advance.

by NewsBluesreply 10501/16/2013
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