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I Don't Like The Freedom Tower

It looks wrong.

by Anonymousreply 5301/09/2013

They should have built the two towers back exactly like they were.

by Anonymousreply 101/07/2013

Not "wrong," just blah.

Has anyone been to the new Tokyo Skytree?

by Anonymousreply 201/07/2013

The Freedom Tower and the upcoming surrounding WTC buildings are miles ahead of other upcoming NYC megatalls in terms of aesthetics. Have any of you taken a gander at 432 Park Avenue West? It looks like a vertical box of Reynolds Wrap.

by Anonymousreply 301/07/2013

I have R2. It's much nicer looking at night than it is during the day.

by Anonymousreply 401/07/2013

[quote] I Don't Like The Freedom Tower

It doesn't matter what you or anyone else likes. What matters is what the families of the 9/11 victims like

by Anonymousreply 501/07/2013

Oh you amuse R5. It was built to make money, not to please anyone.

by Anonymousreply 601/07/2013

It's lovely. Nice blend of clean and distinctive. It'll age beautifully.

by Anonymousreply 701/07/2013

The architect was inflicted in a very rat-like and cunning way.

by Anonymousreply 801/07/2013

Freedom Tower

Dept of Homeland Security

Patriot Act

by Anonymousreply 901/07/2013

It's very boring looking from every perspective.

by Anonymousreply 1001/07/2013

The Empire State Building's 102 floors went up in 14 months. It took the Freedom Tower eleven years thanks to bickering between the Port Authority, New York State and Larry Silverstein.

by Anonymousreply 1101/07/2013

It looks very phallic. Is it just me?

by Anonymousreply 1201/07/2013

yes R1 lets build office towers which, in the event of an emergency, takes over 4 hours to evacuate.

by Anonymousreply 1301/07/2013

It would be right at home in Chicago, not New York city

by Anonymousreply 1401/07/2013

The Park Avenue building looks scary. Way too tall. I would hate to be in that building during a storm like Sandy.

by Anonymousreply 1501/07/2013

maybe you will like it when its finished? ITS NOT DONE YET!

by Anonymousreply 1601/07/2013

That silver cladding makes it look like a Hoboken condo in 2007.

by Anonymousreply 1701/07/2013

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.

by Anonymousreply 1801/08/2013

Was this named after Bush's they hate us for our freedom crap?

by Anonymousreply 1901/08/2013

Could they give the building another name instead of the 'Freedom Tower?'

by Anonymousreply 2001/08/2013

They did. It's going to be called One World Trade Center.

by Anonymousreply 2101/08/2013

so wait, it too 14 months to design, clean the land, prepare the land and build the Empire State Building? You can't compare apples and oranges...

by Anonymousreply 2201/08/2013

Not to mention the fact that the original plans for the WTC started in the early 60s, and the buildings weren't finished until the early 70s.

by Anonymousreply 2301/08/2013

Since when is there a Park Avenue West? Or am I misreading that? Is it just the building that has the West in its title, because its on the western side of Park?

by Anonymousreply 2401/08/2013

r21, the mailing address is 1 World Trade Center, 10048. The building's name is Freedom Tower.

350 Fifth Avenue is the Empire State Building. 30 Rockefeller Plaza is the GE Building.

I think you've got it!

by Anonymousreply 2501/08/2013

Someone needs to tell Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority, then.

by Anonymousreply 2601/08/2013

Yeah, they got rid of the "Freedom Tower" name, thank God.

I've watched it going up the past couple of years - it looked like a hypodermic needle for a while. Now that it's closer to the intended height, it looks better, but I don't think it fills the space or makes the statement that it could. You could always orient yourself with the twin towers. This thing doesn't stand out the same way. It looks good close-up, but not so much from afar as part of the skyline.

by Anonymousreply 2701/08/2013

Like the building. Hate the name.

by Anonymousreply 2801/08/2013

I'm probably never going to have the right to have an opinion on New York architecture, but I think Childs' version of One WTC is a massive improvement over the Daniel Libeskind monstrosity they chose at first.

by Anonymousreply 2901/08/2013

The original WT buildings were absurd, and did not fit in NYC. This one is better.

by Anonymousreply 3001/08/2013

It is *not* called the Freedom Tower. That name was dropped years ago.

It's One World Trade Center.

I work across the street at the World Financial Center and have a direct view onto its construction. It may not be the most beautiful building but damn, I'll be glad when they're done and all the ugly construction is done.

by Anonymousreply 3101/08/2013

It's called "One" WTC while the other towers are 2,3,4 and 7. "Freedom Tower" was dropped in favor of this more subtle and humble recognition of its symbolic importance.

The new name also has the benefit of inflaming the people who fear the UN and the Masons. "One World" Trade Center.

by Anonymousreply 3201/08/2013

it's not the freedom tower anymore...it's 1 WTC

by Anonymousreply 3301/08/2013

Thanks, R33, for your timely information.

by Anonymousreply 3401/08/2013

Notice how the new towers (One WTC, 4WTC and the Goldman HQ) look like towers of light at night. (The WTC towers are lit only by bare bulbs at this point). Unlike previous generations of glass-sheathed towers, where the glass is covering a bulky structure and a window, these new buildings have exteriors that are almost entirely glass.

I agree with OP that OneWTC is a failure of imagination and a wasted opportunity. However, the flat glass walls act as mirrors during the day and disappear at night, partially redeeming the design.

by Anonymousreply 3501/08/2013

[quote]I agree with OP that OneWTC is a failure of imagination and a wasted opportunity

I'm not trying to attack anyone here, I'm just honestly curious: What would you have wanted to see?

The original towers were not beauty queens (hell, I always thought they made the Manhattan skyline look unbalanced, like it was going to topple over). Looking back at other recent mega-buildings like the Petronas Towers, Taipei 101, and the Burj Khalifa, I think 1WTC is the most appealing of all of them.

by Anonymousreply 3601/08/2013

Something I haven't seen before. For example, the designs of the other three towers are mores distinctive. (Well, 2 and 3 are). Or the Nouvel MoMA tower. Even the silhouette of the BoA tower is more interesting.

I do appreciate that from certain angles (and always in terms of height), One WTC mimics the lost towers, but as you note, they were not exactly inspiring. The best thing about them was that there were two of them.

by Anonymousreply 3701/08/2013

I saw i live an it is breathtaking. When it is done you will be amazed.

r20, well they serve freedom fries there.

by Anonymousreply 3801/08/2013

I'm looking at it right now and I am not amazed.

by Anonymousreply 3901/08/2013

I can't believe 9/11 was 12 years ago!

by Anonymousreply 4001/08/2013

I thought you were talking about the other Freedom Tower, Miami's "Ellis Island."

by Anonymousreply 4101/08/2013

as long as we are using Arabic numerals, the terrorists have won

by Anonymousreply 4201/08/2013

I'd rather have one Woolworth building than 10 Freedom towers.

by Anonymousreply 4301/08/2013

It wasn't, r40.

by Anonymousreply 4401/08/2013

I prefer Woolco, R43.

by Anonymousreply 4501/08/2013

I agree. I see it every day and I'm not amazed either.

It's not doing it for me as part of the skyline.

by Anonymousreply 4601/08/2013

I'm not impressed by you either. At least everyone knows me though.

by Anonymousreply 4701/08/2013

Bitch! Your name is One World Trade Center, not Freedom Tower.

by Anonymousreply 4801/09/2013

Is VOTN purposely leaving out Mecca's fabled Fairmont Hotel?

by Anonymousreply 4901/09/2013

Meanwhile, those guys in Dubai are really doing [bold]amazingly beautiful[/bold] things with their architecture. You really need to see this.

by Anonymousreply 5001/09/2013

Almost none of those will ever be built R50.

by Anonymousreply 5101/09/2013

Rebuilding the WTC was the only good option. The terrorist won otherwise, and they did.

How long before they come along and knock this one down? It takes about ten years to become a pilot. So now any time soon, we will have fully licensed pilots in the cockpit that will be on suicide missions.

by Anonymousreply 5201/09/2013

Who the fuck would want to live in Dubai?

by Anonymousreply 5301/09/2013
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