Can Democrats ever get the House back?
Because the 2010 Tea Party happened at the worst time when gerrymandering, so much redistricting, was able to take place giving Republican seats that will be safe for what seems like forever, we lost the House and lost big. I've really lost hope. I mean if not for that we would have gotten the House back this past election.
Obama really fucked us over by bringing on the 2010 election results. If he had been strong and stood up to the GOP instead of kissing their ass and done Medicare for all instead of his crap ACA the baggers never would have come into power. Even the baggers would have loved Medicare for all, which btw was Gov. Howard Dean's idea (I wish Dean were president the past 4 and the next 4 years)
But, it's done. Is there any way out? Does anyone think we can ever win back the House?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/04/2013|
It will take a long time. There are a huge number of House Republicans representing very gerrymandered districts now.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/04/2013|
Not anytime soon, OP, no.
The consequences of 2010 will last for some time.
Nate Silver projects the Republicans will hold the House until 2020.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||01/04/2013|
This question was asked about the Republicans through the 80s and I'm sure the pendulum swings back and forth. Catering to prejudice and greed can be quite profitable though.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/04/2013|
Yep- we will not get it back for a long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/04/2013|
Didn't we almost have it all?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/04/2013|
[quote]Nate Silver projects the Republicans will hold the House until 2020.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/04/2013|
Not til at least 2022. The Repuba did an extraordinary job of gerrymandering. Even states like PA and OH have a large Repub majority in the House.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/04/2013|
ENDA cannot pass until at least 2022.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/04/2013|
Awful right wing governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Florida destroying democracy.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/04/2013|
If some slightly more hopeful areas of the south and midwest ever wise the fuck up, maybe. I think the Democrats can count on writing off the more rabid sections of the bible belt, like Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska, not to mention Alabama or Mississippi or Mormonland (Utah, Idaho); the Democrats ought to concentrate on those areas of "blue" states that may still have republican representation and try to "convert" them. Parts of San Diego county where I live for example are republican and have been for years although "cracks" are being seen in this "ediface", for example, republican Duncan Hunter was defeated for reelection after years in the House--this needs to keep happening until there is at least a bare majority and the Democrats need to keep getting more spine and unity. The Obama administration is only the beginning of what could be a Democratic ascendancy in the 21st century and if the republicans sort of "wither away", it may leave enough of a void that a third party in this country can become a true player in American politics. I suggest that all the various tiny splinter parties of Socialists in this country unite into one larger Left party as they have in Germany.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/04/2013|
That's what I was afraid of. It seems pretty hopeless for now. O and hopefully any Dem president that follows him better learn to get a pair.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/04/2013|
"Growing a pair" might be helpful r11, as I sort of alluded to in r10, but republicans have alot more money at their disposal--does "a pair" always stand up to big, moneyed interests? And now that the rich and big corporations have to pay just a little more of their fair share in taxes, I think they are going to get all riled up again and try to stick somebody like dubya back in who will squander any surplus achieved by the Democrats as they did from 2001-2009 when they stole the White House after Bill Clinton achieved a surplus which many then wanted to use to "fix" Social Security and Medicare. The republicans are truly a detriment and a real drag on the progress and stability of the United States.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/04/2013|
We can make some gains, seat by seat, where demographics are shifting. Not every Republican House seat is out of reach. But yeah, Nate is right. 2010 was brutal in terms of the effect of redistricting/gerrymandering, and even now, the deck is stacked such that Democrats get more votes but Republicans maintain a solid majority.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/04/2013|