At New York Presbytarian.
I knew something was wrong--we haven't seen her in forever, including the Bengazi hearings and John Kerry stuff.
At New York Presbytarian.
I knew something was wrong--we haven't seen her in forever, including the Bengazi hearings and John Kerry stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||01/05/2013|
Get well soon, Hill. The world needs you, dammit.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/30/2012|
I know that Bill didn't want her to leave him and go back to DC when he was recovering from his first heart operation (according to a friend who knows him), I hope he's doing the same for Hill.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/30/2012|
Wow, didn't Natasha Richardson die from a blood clot on the brain following a skiing accident? Holy crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/30/2012|
Blood clot where?
What does this mean?
I had a feeling that there was more to the fainting/flu story than was being released.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/30/2012|
This is why moderate to heavy drinking is good: it thins the blood. No clots.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/30/2012|
Will this shut up the freepers?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/30/2012|
[quote] Her age and these medical mishaps cast doubt on her ability to serve as prez.
Didn't stop Ronny "I've got Alzheimer's" Reagan.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/30/2012|
Happy New Year!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/30/2012|
She'll be fine. Really, she's at NY Presbyterian.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/30/2012|
[quote] Will this shut up the freepers?
Nope. They're being their usual, classy selves.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||12/30/2012|
Enquirer story says she may have brain cancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/30/2012|
The National Enquirer says so? Well then it MUST BE TRUE.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/30/2012|
How did Hilary get a concussion in the first place?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/30/2012|
A blood clot following a concussion can happen to a person at ANY age, r5!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/30/2012|
R15 -- they aren't often wrong anymore
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/30/2012|
The National Enquirer said no such thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/30/2012|
If I recall correctly, Natasha Richardson died of a brain clot from a concussion
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/30/2012|
The Enquirer said she might have a brain tumor.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/30/2012|
It's on the cover of this week's issue r21.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/30/2012|
Link to the Enquirer story.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/30/2012|
I'm just wondering: Did Natasha Richardson also have a blood clot?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||12/30/2012|
Get better, Hills!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||12/30/2012|
Damn, get well soon Hillary.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/30/2012|
[quote]If I recall correctly, Natasha Richardson died of a brain clot from a concussion
She died within hours of her injury (she refused treatment). Hillary has been under medical supervision during her illness/injury, so hopefully her doctors caught it in time before it can do any serious harm.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/30/2012|
R4, Hillary does not have a blood clot in her brain.
She is being treating with anti-coagulatns and anti-coagulants are not used in blood clots on the brain.
Anti-coagulants are used when there is a blood clot elsewhere in the body.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/30/2012|
This is what Hoss from "Bonanza" died of!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||12/30/2012|
I remember Natasha Richardson having a ski accident. Was it a concussion she died from?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/30/2012|
Please don't die Mrs. Clinton!
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/30/2012|
Can't all of you listen to CNN?
Brain blood clots are not treated with anticoagulants and she is being treated with antigoagulants.
She apparently has a blood clot elsewhere in the body - which is not anywhere near as serious as a blood clot in the brain.
Blood clots in the legs are very common.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/30/2012|
She spends a lot of her time sitting on planes. It is no coincidence that she said she would start working out as soon as she's done with the job.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||12/30/2012|
Wasn't there an actress -- a Natalie or Nadine or some name like that? -- who had a blood clot after a skiing accident and then died? Does anyone remember that?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||12/30/2012|
R40 - Scroll up. Natasha Richardson.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||12/30/2012|
KABC in Los Angeles has just reported that Hilary's condition "has taken a turn for the worse".
|by Anonymous||reply 42||12/30/2012|
I really hope I'm wrong but I feel its more serious than they are letting us on.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||12/30/2012|
She could have a blood clot from atrial fibrillation. Atrial fibrillation is what caused Bush Sr to puke and pass out in China. A fib is associated with blood clots because the atrium is not pushing steadily enough to get all the blood into the ventricle, so some blood pools in the atrium and it becomes sluggish. Sluggish blood can clot. A clot can then break off and travel to another part of the body.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||12/30/2012|
She's doing great last I heard Sonny. Those anti-coagulants must've worked wonders.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||12/30/2012|
[quote] KABC in Los Angeles has just reported that Hilary's condition "has taken a turn for the worse"
The "turn for the worse" could just be a reference to the clot and being admitted to the hospital. Or did they specifically say she had taken a turn for the worse since being admitted to the hospital?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||12/30/2012|
"This is why moderate to heavy drinking is good: it thins the blood. No clots."
Hillary is a DRINKER, nitwit.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||12/30/2012|
God damn it! How did Hil's get the concussion in the first place?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||12/30/2012|
She supposedly fainted a few weeks ago due to dehydration and hit her head.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||12/30/2012|
r49 she apparently had a stomach virus which dehydrated her, she passed out, and hit her head on the way down. At least that's the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||12/30/2012|
She failed to read the entire thread before posting, R49.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||12/30/2012|
She looks like she has steroid face in this photo
|by Anonymous||reply 53||12/30/2012|
R49 - She had a bad bout of intestinal flu, passed out while defecating, and hit her head.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||12/30/2012|
I heard someone called Natasha tripped her over on purpose.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 56||12/30/2012|
Hills is just a few years older than my mother and mom's flying lead to development of DVT - deep vein thrombosis. She had blood clots break loose and travel from her legs to her lungs, which put her in the hospital twice. She's okay now but it helps greatly that she's no longer a CPA and is like clockwork in taking Coumadin and exercising more.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||12/30/2012|
r47 That's what I was thinking, but they didn't specify if her condition worsened since the original fainting spell or since being re-admitted. This was the second report they did on Hilary today; the first being the breaking news about an hour ago re. her being hospitalized. They didn't use the "turn for the worse" then. Typical shoddiness that passes for "reporting" these days, I guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||12/30/2012|
So how do the assholes on places like Fox turn this into a big ol lie on Hillary's part?? Honestly, I am sure Sean Hannity and company would say her death was faked, even if her body was laying 6 feet under. Those fuckers are so damn evil.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||12/30/2012|
I think her condition is worse than they're letting on. Usually a news report will include a prognosis but so far I haven't seen any. I think this is BAD.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||12/30/2012|
I remember Liam Neeson was so grief stricken he had sex with all his co-stars of the 'A-Team' movie. He seems to be coming out of the fog, but it was indiscriminate male lovers for the longest time.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||12/30/2012|
Shit. She'd better not make the 2012 death pool!
Stay strong, Hillz!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||12/30/2012|
She's got the DVTs!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||12/30/2012|
I have a bad feeling about this.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||12/30/2012|
Natasha Richardson here. Any questions?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||12/30/2012|
R61 made me laugh out loud.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12/30/2012|
Please get well Hillary! Damn, you should be President.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12/30/2012|
"She is expected to remain at New York Presbyterian Hospital for the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor her condition and treat her with anti-coagulants, said Philippe Reines, deputy assistant secretary of state."
|by Anonymous||reply 68||12/30/2012|
CNN story is complete with "Hilary through the Years" which news organizations prepare in advance of someone's death.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||12/30/2012|
I just noticed that, r69. It's freaking me out.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||12/30/2012|
The right wingers are saying it is a hoax. I've let them now how vile they are, in love of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||12/30/2012|
I hope she gets better.
R67, you're fucking inappropriate.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||12/30/2012|
Oh no r69 that CNN link is freaking me out. They only trot out that 'through the years' shit when it's serious. God, I hope Hillary's going to pull through. She's only 65, for christ's sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||12/30/2012|
MSNBC just had video of Chelsea being ushered into the hospital! :(
|by Anonymous||reply 74||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||12/30/2012|
Natasha, are you related to Miranda?
|by Anonymous||reply 76||12/30/2012|
I hope she is ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||12/30/2012|
R79 - That's understandable. Hillary is a person that we have seen in the public eye for a really long time and many of us have identified with her, or at least admired her. We don't have personal connections with the people in Newton.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 81||12/30/2012|
She doesn't have a prognosis? She doesn't have cancer. Why do you even need a formal prognosis when you have a blot clot - probably from traveling and her being laid up recovering from the concussion.
Of course Chelsea is there. Whenever my parents were in the hosptial I was there every day.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||12/30/2012|
they gave her a broad spectrum antibiotic
|by Anonymous||reply 83||12/30/2012|
David Bloom of NBC died of a blood clot due to sitting for hours in a military tank. Flying frequently and long flights can also cause blood clots. Get well soon, Hillary!!
|by Anonymous||reply 84||12/30/2012|
This is absolutely DEVASTATING news.
What an awful year this has been.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||12/30/2012|
R82: Listen toots, they usually tell you what the condition or diagnosis means and what the likely outcome is and in this case, they haven't. At Hillary's age and given that she's not exactly the picture of health and given her body type, doctors should have recognized that she was at risk for a blood clot, especially if she was told to stay home and take it easy (probably though the doctors wanted her in a hospital and she decided against it). This is why people in hospitals get those special socks that blow up and circulate the blood in the legs. Why didn't Hillary have this brought into her house?? I just think that something is going on. Even Sanjay Goopta just said things are very vague.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||12/30/2012|
R79, my thoughts exactly.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||12/30/2012|
I wanted to go to bed and now I am worried about Hillary.
Hope she is well.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||12/30/2012|
Any pix of her fainting?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||12/30/2012|
This fucking sucks -- seems so sudden. I hope she overcomes this in the coming days and weeks. She needs major R&R after decades of working non-stop once she is replaced by Kerry.
After all, 2016 is around the corner. She needs to meet with donors and her campaign team before she knows it. Her country needs her.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||12/30/2012|
R86 = Debbie Downer. Be gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||12/30/2012|
Apparently she was treated for a blood clot years ago, (per CNN just now) so I'm sure her medical team are aware of the future risk as it relates to any subsequent health issues.
It is odd that they are being vague about it though. I'm not usually a Mary!, but it does strike me as strange.
Hope she's OK. I always thought she would've been a better president.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||12/30/2012|
All I can think of to say is Dear God, NO. But she is one tough lady and she'll soldier through this.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 95||12/30/2012|
She obviously had symptoms like headaches, vlurred vision, balance issues, and when the docs were checking her out they found the clot. Not uncommon after a concussion.
They do have to monitor you closely when they first put you on anticoagulants. She will probably have to have physical therapy, a special diet, and an exercise regimen similar to what they do with cardiac patients.
She probably won't let them keep her too long in the hospital, but I would say maybe a week to ten days. When she goes home she will go with a full compliment of PT, nurse, trainer, and physician.
I know they have a house in D.C. & the house in Chappaqua, but do they have an apartment in Manhattan? That would be the easiest.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||12/30/2012|
The comments on various news sites by right-wingers are absolutely disgusting and show what complete trash they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||12/30/2012|
[quote] Apparently she was treated for a blood clot years ago,
Really? I wonder if she has a Greenfield filter?
|by Anonymous||reply 98||12/30/2012|
I know not everyone on this board (including me)knows everything about every famous person, but I can't believe pepole don't remember that Natasha Richardson died in 2009, was famous, was Vanessa Redgrave's daughter, etc.. Those of you acting dumb about her should fuck off and die, already. Unless you're kidding, or 12 years old.
Back to Hilary: I hope she'll be all right; this is very scary. At least people seem to know who SHE is.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||12/30/2012|
R99 must be new here.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||12/30/2012|
Could Bush 41 outlive Hillary? That just ain't right.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||12/30/2012|
R99 - I'm surprised that there isn't a thread for Natasha on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||12/30/2012|
But how did she die, r99? No one's told us yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||12/30/2012|
Since we have no idea where the blood clot is...how much should we worry.
When The Enquirer, said brain cancer...it made me wonder.
One thing, she travels so much, how can we trust all the people she meets with...in all those countries?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||12/30/2012|
Everybody please pray for Hilary's full and complete recovery. Just toss one up to Big G. It helps.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||12/30/2012|
This thread is in my thread watcher and every time a new post registers, I'm terrifed to click on it. Godspeed, Hillary.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||12/30/2012|
Where is Bill? Any sightings?
|by Anonymous||reply 107||12/30/2012|
Somebody get Miss Dionne on standby!
|by Anonymous||reply 108||12/30/2012|
The problem with Richardson had as much to do with the lack of proper diagnosis as the extent of the injury. And her situation was caused by bleeding, not by blood clot(s).
The treatment she is now receiving should do the trick, unless some serious issues are involved. They obviously aren't, as seen by her schedule and vitality before her fall.
With the Clintons, I never completely trust news, because they are by now masters of manipulating the story the way they want it. However, it does not appear that anything is occurring here other than what is being reported.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||12/30/2012|
Fuck off r110. It's not true.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||12/30/2012|
Calm down everyone there's a likely reason they're not publicizing everything here. They're not going to release every detail of her diagnosis and prognosis as they usually would for a celeb or person of her standing due to the fact that she might be running in '16 and they're being extra careful what they put out there about her health. It could be twisted by opponents as evidence of her unsuitability to run or serve.
They won't release more details until they know exactly what's up and when she'll be released, and even then after careful wording/vetting by her pr team. There's a lot at stake here.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||12/30/2012|
where are our fake DL doctors? Is R109 one?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||12/30/2012|
R110, that was really inappropriate.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||12/30/2012|
A neurologist on Daily Kos looks at what's been reported and revised his diary once he learned of the treatment given.
[quote]I wrote the diary prior to learning that Secretary Clinton is now on anticoagulation. Anticoagulation for subdural hematoma treatment is rather unusual. If the clot is intracranial, then perhaps the anticoagulation is related to something like a dural venous sinus thrombosis or a cerebral venous thrombosis - two entities where anticoagulation is the standard of care. Another possibility is that due to her sedentary nature over the past few weeks following her illness and concussion - she developed a clot elsewhere in her body - i.e. in her leg (known as a deep vein thrombosis - DVT) which also requires treatment with anticoagulant agents.
DVT is what kills people on long airplane flights when they don't get up and walk around.
A venous thrombosis is a form of stroke.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||12/30/2012|
R116, blood clots are common.
She does not have a blood clot on the brain.
She is taking anticoagulants - anticogulants are not given for blood clots on the brain.
So many of you are so foolish and ignorant - Joe Biden had a brain anerysm - a blood vessel bear gus braub burst, and he recovered and ran for president.
Sanjy Gupta was on explaining how blood clots caught like this are not life threatening.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||12/30/2012|
Hillary, Thatcher, Bush hospitalized.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||12/30/2012|
Oh shut up, R117. You're the one asking for a photo of Hilary Clinton fainting.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||12/30/2012|
Natasha Richardson died from bleeding in the brain - her brain became swollen from the bleeding.
Hillary is receiving anticoangulants which are given for blood clots in the body, but not in the brain.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||12/30/2012|
Omg, that sounds horrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||12/30/2012|
[quote] Joe Biden had a brain anerysm - a blood vessel bear gus braub burst
I guess you know whereof you speak, R118.
Were you able to activate your LifeAlert?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||12/30/2012|
Joe Biden had a brain aneurysm - a blood vessel burst near his brain and he recovered and ran for president.
R122, as for Hillary, no, a blood clot is not 'horrible'. You're an idiot.
Blood clots are common and hers has been found and treating with a blood thinner.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||12/30/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 125||12/30/2012|
Who is next? The Pope?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||12/30/2012|
Since so many on Datalounge have zero attention spans or the attention span of a knat.....
you probably won't read this article describing Hillary's condition...
and briefly about blood clots in general and how blood clots in the leg or other similar body parts are not serious, while blood clots in the brain or lungs can be very serious.
R125, Hillary does not have a blood clot in the brain or lung. Because if she did, she would not be treated with blood thinners which is how she is being treated.
R125, do you not have a TV or a computer? Are you posting from outer space? CNN has no further reports right now. Neither does FOX.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||12/31/2012|
I love DL, but it's scary to think that some people get their news from it.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||12/31/2012|
[quote]or the attention span of a knat.....
|by Anonymous||reply 130||12/31/2012|
8 People Who Thought Hillary Clinton Was Faking Her Concussion
1. Former U.S. U.N. spokesman Richard Grenell
2. The New York Post
3. Newbusters hit the press for "disingenuously reporting the Hillary excuse for not testifying without the slightest bit of skepticism."
4. Charles Krauthammer called Clinton's concussion "acute Benghazi allergy" Sean Hannity added "let's see the medical report on that."
5. John Bolton called it "diplomatic illness."
6. Outgoing Congressman Allen West said "I’m not a doctor, but it seems as though – that the Secretary of State has come down with a case of Benghazi flu."
7. The Daily Caller's Jim Treacher demanded to see her medical report to believe she was ill.
8. Monica Crowley called it "a virus with impeccable timing."
|by Anonymous||reply 131||12/31/2012|
and R130, you have the brain of a gnat
|by Anonymous||reply 132||12/31/2012|
I am a gay right center and I am praying for hilary
|by Anonymous||reply 133||12/31/2012|
[quote]So many of you are so foolish and ignorant - Joe Biden had a brain anerysm - a blood vessel bear gus braub burst, and he recovered and ran for president.
Thanks to the above paragraph, I was able to laugh this month.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||12/31/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 135||12/31/2012|
Theoretically...can Hillary choose Obama as her Vice President? He has never served as VP....
|by Anonymous||reply 136||12/31/2012|
That settles it. I am letting my ass be deflowered. Because if Hillary is not in the race...well then I/we might as well get used to getting fucked every day now!
|by Anonymous||reply 137||12/31/2012|
[quote]I am a gay right center and I am praying for hilary
The nerve of a racist piece of shit like you claiming to be "religious." Fuck you, asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||12/31/2012|
Does this mean Hillary wasn't faking after all?
Wonder if any of the people who said she was faking will apologize now?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||12/31/2012|
No need to apologize. Let them just all play in heavy traffic. I'd personally love to push Krauthammer down a flight of stairs. He's vermin, as is Bolton.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||12/31/2012|
I haven't read a lot about Hillary's condition but I do know you can fully recover from blood clots. She dearly needs the rest she will be getting now. Here's hoping she will soon be happy, healthy and well.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||12/31/2012|
No, R136, the Constitution only allows a president to serve for ten years in any circumstance.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||12/31/2012|
Really, R142? How times have changed.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||12/31/2012|
Unless there's something more to the story than a blood-clot, as The Enquirer claims.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||12/31/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 145||12/31/2012|
R142, isn't it two terms which would mean eight years, not 10?
|by Anonymous||reply 146||12/31/2012|
If you are VP that became President but seved for less than two years, you can run on your own for two complete terms. LBJ could have run again in '68, even though he had served 5 plus years.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||12/31/2012|
[quote]LBJ could have run again in '68, even though he had served 5 plus years.
Luckily the Vietnam War put a stop to that.
LBJ stole what should have been JFK's 2nd term.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||12/31/2012|
Status update. Natasha Richardson is still dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||12/31/2012|
[quote]Joe Biden had a brain anerysm - a blood vessel bear gus braub burst
I once fucked a bear named Otto Braub-Burst. Any relation?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||12/31/2012|
R143, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution became law in 1951 because of FDR's four terms. It limits a President to a maximum of ten years in office.
A Vice President who becomes President upon the death of the previous President can only run for two terms of his own if the previous President died during the last two years of his term. If a President dies during the first two years of his term, his Vice President-turned-President can only run for one full term of his own.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||12/31/2012|
[quote]the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution became law in 1951 because of FDR's four terms.
That's the Republicans for you. They try to stop success when they see it.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||12/31/2012|
I bet it was really an abortion.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||12/31/2012|
True r140 - it does show, once again, how wrong these Republican commentators are about EVERYTHING, especially Krauthammer.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||12/31/2012|
pparently it's not serious. However, she had clots in her legs during the 2008 campaign.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||12/31/2012|
R157, it ain't over till it's over.
If Hillary runs in 2016, it is hers.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||12/31/2012|
The impression I got was that there was a clot in her head, not inside her brain,& she's taking anticoagulants. I don't think this is in her leg or her lung.
They said "a blood clot" so it is one, and likely directly related to the concussion. My guess is she had symptoms that wouldn't go away like a headache or blurred vision and they checked and found it.
I wonder why they didn't find it when she first fell? Of course maye she refused to go to the hospital. See? When you are told you should go to the hospital to be checked, do it!
|by Anonymous||reply 160||12/31/2012|
It's already been confirmed its not her head, it's her leg. She travels to three countries in 24 hours many times. It's probably from being kept still in a hospital bed.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||12/31/2012|
[quote]Prolly an abortion gone wrong.
This joke has been made about 5 times on this thread. ENOUGH. This is not a laughing matter. Some of us are concerned about her health.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||12/31/2012|
R164, how do you know who I voted for? I was a Hillary supporter during the 2008 primaries. I voted for Obama when he was chosen as the nominee.
What does this have to do with anything?
|by Anonymous||reply 165||12/31/2012|
We appear to have a right-wing troll on the board, or perhaps someone trying to parody one.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||12/31/2012|
For every witty r40 (Nadine, LOL!) there's always a dense r41.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||12/31/2012|
At least peg was interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||12/31/2012|
[quote] We appear to have a right-wing troll on the board, or perhaps someone trying to parody one.
So why doesn't everybody show they are in on the joke by STOP ANSWERING IT. Any 12 year old knows that trolls thrive on attention. So deny it the attention it seeks by ignoring it. .
|by Anonymous||reply 171||12/31/2012|
R164 is such a tiresome turd
|by Anonymous||reply 172||12/31/2012|
I'm still going with atrial fibrillation. They probably tried cardioverting her and it came back. Bet she gets a pacemaker.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||12/31/2012|
[quote] and how blood clots in the leg or other similar body parts are not serious,
This is really, really wrong.
A blood clot in your leg can kill or cripple you. Parts of it can break off and travel to other parts of the body and kill you, which is what happened to David Bloom.
I have a relative who is in constant pain and walks (not very well) with a cane due to a blood clot in his leg. He had to have a spinal cord stimulator implanted for the pain.
Blood clots in the leg are serious. They are not immediately life-threatening but must be treated ASAP so the clot doesn't travel (become an embolus instead of a thrombus) or extend ((causing permanent leg damage).
Depending on how large the clot is, they may place a greenfield filter in her inferior vena cava to prevent pieces of the clot from reaching the lung. She may be placed on anti coagulation therapy for life, which isn't fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||12/31/2012|
It's not a laughing matter. And a downturn in Hillary Clinton's health is something to be genuinely bummed out about.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||12/31/2012|
Didn't Natasha Richardson die after having a lesbian affair with Hillary?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||12/31/2012|
Is she on the hormones?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||12/31/2012|
What R171 said.
The DL has always been an easy mark for trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||12/31/2012|
Deep venous thrombosis (DVT) from all the travel.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||12/31/2012|
DVT, when caught, is very manageable.
The fact that they haven't come out and said that's what it is, is concerning.
There's no good reason not to—doing so would save lives.
At minimum, she's having tests to rule various things out. On the other end of the scale, she's had a cancer dx and they're determining how to roll out the announcement (remember how Apple stalled by claiming that Steve Jobs had a "bug"?) to preserve her political future.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||12/31/2012|
Wasn't there a poll just done about how popular she is with Democrats?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||12/31/2012|
Please FF the self-loathing fuck at r181.
Hillary threads sure to bring out the scumbags.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||12/31/2012|
She should have been President.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||12/31/2012|
Well aren't you a special little snowflake, R181.
Please seek professional help.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||12/31/2012|
Those of you who seriuosly answer R181 need more professional help than he does. He knows he is a troll and is successfully getting the attention he doesn't deserve from OCDs who cannot let trolls be ignored. Ignoring trolls is how you get rid of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||12/31/2012|
Christ, will there be one day where no one shoots anyone in this country?!
|by Anonymous||reply 188||12/31/2012|
Sorry, wrong thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||12/31/2012|
wtf r u on about r188?
|by Anonymous||reply 190||12/31/2012|
L̸͋ͤ̌̉̑͊͌ͩ̋̎̎̂͏̮̻̘̺̝̺͙̹͇̩̣̭O̓͛̿̔ͨ̓̆̌͛͒ͩ̋͏̛͕͖͓̦̳̤͍̗͓̰̳̜̙͓͉͕̥́͢L̴̶̢͍̠̙̰̥̞̦̯̜͉̭̤̮̊ͦ̇̋̒͞ͅ ̸̡̳̳͇͓̙̪̹̮̣̲̗̺̠̭ͤ̍ͫͥ̽̆ͤ͆̽ͥ͜͟͡ţ̶̧̥̠̖̖̯̟̟̹͇̗̖̦̣̰̜̺͖͇̻̅ͧ̉̃ͨ͂̆̉ͬͧ̔͒̀͢h̯͖̮̗͙̬̲̒̆̂̒ͫ͊̊̌̊̂̇͛ͬ̈̃ͫͮ̌ͤ͡͡a̶̢̾ͫ̾ͬ̌ͤ̆̅͜͡͏͚̞̘̠͔̞͚ț͉͚͕̟͂ͭ͐ͭ͆̃́͢s̴̢͈̦̘̳̞̭̭͉̗̞̯̔ͦͩ̊ͩ́͑ͨ̈́ͦ͆̀͡ ̨̢̦̞̩͙͊͊́̑ͬ͗͛́́f̹͇̼̳̯̫͇̬̞̙̺̘͌ͩͯ̄ͨ̇͝ư̢̧̝̗̣̳̺̖̦̩̠͍͎̩ͩ̎̅͗ͮͭͧ̿͂̏̄͛̽͆͑͒̍̒͡ͅņ̴̼͇͉̮̖͌ͮ̾̂̆̑ͦ̉͘͟͢ņ̵̤̗̳̺̞͍̱̞̽ͬ̂͂̔̚͢y̶̿̽͐̾҉̵̞͖̮̰͙͚̠̰͟ͅ.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||12/31/2012|
And yet R187, here you are responding to the people responding to the troll, perpetuating the thread even further.
Physician, heal thyself etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||12/31/2012|
But, nonetheless, there YOU are, r192, responding to the poster who responded to the people who responded to the troll.
Medical Re-insurer, insure thyself.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||12/31/2012|
[quote]You only vote for whatever candidate gives you food stamps, SS disability and allows you to murder babies legally.
I don't care about the first two, but I give money every year to keep the third one going!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||12/31/2012|
False equivalency, 192.
Telling someone to keep the line moving by not responding to the nutcase on the soapbox is not the same thing as engaging the nutcase on the soapbox..
|by Anonymous||reply 196||12/31/2012|
I am afraid, because of the troll we'll kick into Primetime again.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||12/31/2012|
[quote] I am afraid, because of the troll we'll kick into Primetime again.
Pay your $18 and voila, fear be gone!
|by Anonymous||reply 198||12/31/2012|
And yet R196, since you're posting this message on a public forum, you're engaged in conversation with the nutcase on the soapbox whether you like it or not.
Let. It. Go.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||12/31/2012|
And yet r199, ...
|by Anonymous||reply 200||12/31/2012|
Wait, she's at New York Presbyterian guys! This is great news! She's receiving world class medical care and will be absolutely fine and leading the diplomatic efforts of the Free World in no time! Thank GOD for New York Presbyterian!
|by Anonymous||reply 201||12/31/2012|
Dear R184 - Consider it done! Thanks for the heads up.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||12/31/2012|
Trolls keep on trollin cuz somebody's got to do it
|by Anonymous||reply 203||12/31/2012|
NY Presby is where Clinton had his heart surgery. It was NY Cornell back then. I liked it better when we had 1 Cornell and 1 Presbyterian instead of 2 Presbyterian hospitals in NY. More competition.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||12/31/2012|
I'll just die if she dies.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||12/31/2012|
Blood clots in the legs are only life threatening if they are not found and not caught in time.
Hillary's blood clot was found and caught in time.
David Bloom's (NBC reporter) was scrunched up in a tank for long periods and his leg blood clot was not found nor caught in time.
Sanjy Gupta on CNN explained that leg blood clots are pretty run of the mill if found and caught in time, unlike blood clots near the brain or in the brain or lung.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||12/31/2012|
It was reported that she has had previous leg blood clots - one report said 2008, another report said also 1998.
Those dates need to be verified.
R207, a blood clot is not in the category of 'serious health issues'.
And Bill Clinton had open heart bypass triple bypass surgery in his early 60's or late 50's and he certainly is not 'soft in the head'.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||12/31/2012|
You can die of a pulmonary embolism without ever knowing it came from a DVT in your leg because you didn't know you had a DVT
|by Anonymous||reply 209||12/31/2012|
Yes, but Hillary's blood clot was found and caught in plenty of time and is being dissolved with blood thinner, so your frenzy and worry about her demise is uncalled for
|by Anonymous||reply 210||12/31/2012|
R211, she did not want to testify at the Benghazi hearings and had her aides testify for her.
You really are a exaggerative alarmist which is not an attractive character trait.
Your use of 'serious health CRISIS' is ridiculous and you are an immature alarmist.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||12/31/2012|
R211, you are a raging fool who stated at R207 that Hillary would now be soft in the head.
You're an idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||12/31/2012|
The freepers will feast on those three weeks like buzzards on a corpse.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||12/31/2012|
She had a dvt - behind her knee cap - in 1998. It was considered serious and she admitted to being frightened.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||12/31/2012|
Even progressives reported that Hillary did not want to testfy at the Benghazi hearings held in December because she wanted to wait for a major written report to be released so that she would know what the findings were surrounding Benghazi and then would know how to respond.
The report was released a week or two ago, so now she has been able to read it and know all the details found.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||12/31/2012|
[quote] so your frenzy and worry about her demise is uncalled for
Frenzied? I'm merely a healthy professional of 25 years saying that yes, blood clots are a serious health problem. They're not varicose veins, they're not muscle sprains. To repeatedly say that "blood clots in the leg are not serious" is plain stupid. They're serious. They're unpredictable. Of course they need to be treated -- so does diabetes, so does strep throat, so does a brain tumor or a broken ankle. But don't designate a health problem as "not serious" when it has the potential to permanently injure or even sometimes kill somebody. All health problems need to be treated. But all health problems aren't equal.
Hillary Clinton is getting the best care in the country. But other people aren't so lucky and should know that a thrombus is a problem. Yes, it's more dangerous when it's in the lung or the heart or the brain but it's still serious. And we don't know how big it is. It could be a long motherfucker.
The hospitalization is to give her anticoagulation intravenously or via the abdomen. They'll check her INR value and eventually prescribe oral warfarin. If everything is copacetic, she'll then be discharged, following up with anticoagulation based on her blood values.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||12/31/2012|
They just released the location of the clot. A venous thrombosis indeed, and between the brain and the ear. Doctors said there was no sign of stroke, thank goodness.
[quote]"In the course of a routine follow-up MRI on Sunday, the scan revealed that a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis had formed. This is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage. To help dissolve this clot, her medical team began treating the Secretary with blood thinners. She will be released once the medication dose has been established. In all other aspects of her recovery, the Secretary is making excellent progress and we are confident she will make a full recovery. She is in good spirits, engaging with her doctors, her family, and her staff." - Dr. Lisa Bardack, Mt. Kisco Medical Group, and Dr. Gigi El-Bayoumi, George Washington University
|by Anonymous||reply 218||12/31/2012|
I hope she doesn't get C diff!
|by Anonymous||reply 219||12/31/2012|
I never ceased to be amazed at the vehemence of misogyny and hatred against this woman but WOW this event really brought out the nastiest Clinton-bashing stink of the Right wing.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||12/31/2012|
What is your source r218?
|by Anonymous||reply 222||12/31/2012|
CNN a good enough source for you, R222?
(CNN) – Hillary Clinton's doctors said Monday that the secretary of state's blood clot is located "between the brain and the skull behind the right ear."
Clinton remained hospitalized Monday at New York Presbyterian Hospital for a clot that was discovered during a follow-up exam related to a concussion she suffered this month, her spokesman said.
Read the full statement from her doctors:
"In the course of a routine follow-up MRI on Sunday, the scan revealed that a right transverse sinus venous thrombosis had formed. This is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. It did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage. To help dissolve this clot, her medical team began treating the Secretary with blood thinners. She will be released once the medication dose has been established. In all other aspects of her recovery, the Secretary is making excellent progress and we are confident she will make a full recovery. She is in good spirits, engaging with her doctors, her family, and her staff."
- Dr. Lisa Bardack, Mt. Kisco Medical Group, and Dr. Gigi El-Bayoumi, George Washington University
|by Anonymous||reply 223||12/31/2012|
The blood clot is between the brain and the skull... right behind the right ear.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||12/31/2012|
CNN is explaining it fully
|by Anonymous||reply 225||12/31/2012|
The Associated Press @AP
BREAKING: Doctors: Hillary Clinton making excellent progress, predict a full recovery from blood clot.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||12/31/2012|
Some poor slob with minimal or no health insurance would never have had a follow up MRI.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||12/31/2012|
Good. She'll be fine. Now on to the presidency in 2016.
And those dimwitted motherfuckers who have been attacking her over this can spend the next four years rimming Bill twice a day.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||12/31/2012|
Hillary Clinton Progressing After Blood Clot In Head, Expected To Fully Recover: Doctor
BY JOSH LEDERMAN & MATTHEW LEE, ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON (AP) — Doctors treating Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton for a blood clot say the clot formed in her head but they stress that they are confident she will make a full recovery.
In an update Monday on Clinton's condition, her doctors say the blood clot did not result in a stroke, or neurological damage. The clot is located in the vein in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear.
Clinton's doctors say that to help dissolve the clot, they are treating her with blood thinners. They say she will be released once the medication dose has been established.
In their update, the doctors say the 65-year-old secretary of state is making excellent progress and is in good spirits.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton spent a second day at a New York hospital on Monday, under observation for a blood clot, stemming from a concussion she sustained while battling a stomach virus.
The illness has kept her out of the public view since Dec. 7, and has started to raise a host of questions as her team keeps typically tightlipped about the details: Where is the clot located? How severe is her condition? How soon will she recover? And, as Democrats are privately if not publicly speculating, how might her illness affect a decision about running for president in 2016?
Aides disclosed the blood clot Sunday, with her spokesman, Phillipe Reines, issuing a statement that said: "Her doctors will continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion." He had no immediate update Monday on her condition, raising the question of whether she will return to work before she steps down as secretary of state.
After decades in politics, Clinton, 65, says she plans to spend the next year resting. She has long insisted she had no intention of mounting a second campaign for the White House four years from now. But the door is not entirely closed, and she would almost certainly emerge as the Democrat to beat if she decided to give in to calls by Democratic fans and run again.
Her age – and thereby health – would likely be a factor under consideration, given that Clinton would be 69 when sworn in, if she were elected in 2016. That might become even more of an issue in the early jockeying for 2016 if what started as a bad stomach bug becomes a prolonged, public bout with more serious infirmity.
Not that Democrats are willing to talk openly about the political implications of a long illness, choosing to keep any discussions about her condition behind closed doors. Publicly, Democrats reject the notion that a blood clot could hinder her political prospects.
"Some of those concerns could be borderline sexist," said Basil Smikle, a Democratic strategist who worked for Clinton when she was a senator. "Dick Cheney had significant heart problems when he was vice president, and people joked about it. He took the time he needed to get better, and it wasn't a problem."
It isn't uncommon for presidential candidates' health – and age – to be an issue. Both in 2000 and 2008, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., had to rebut concerns he was too old to be commander in chief or that his skin cancer could resurface.
Two decades after Clinton became the first lady, signs of her popularity – and her political strength – are ubiquitous.
Obama had barely declared victory in November when Democrats started zealously plugging Clinton as their strongest White House contender four years from now, should she choose to take that leap.
"Wouldn't that be exciting," House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi declared in December. "I hope she goes – why wouldn't she?"
Even Republicans concede that were she to run, Clinton would be a force to be reckoned with.
"Trying to win that will be truly the Super Bowl," former House Spe
|by Anonymous||reply 229||12/31/2012|
Wasn't challenging the veracity r223, I just wanted to post the news in another thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||12/31/2012|
[quote]Some poor slob with minimal or no health insurance would never have had a follow up MRI.
You're right however I think the person who would be the least to blame for this would be Hilary. She tried...about a decade ago to remedy this.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||01/02/2013|
not one update in days.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||01/05/2013|
why should there be an update? She's at home resting and hopefully taking care of herself.
Hope Bill is with her making hot tea and fluffing her pillows.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||01/05/2013|
So I think we can all agree that this ends her presidential aspirations, correct?
|by Anonymous||reply 234||01/05/2013|